Guest TomYoung Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Hi all: Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what it is. Thanks Tom Young
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop "TomYoung" <tgyoung@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:e7a862e1-f86f-4a6a-9069-d288e99401bf@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... > Hi all: > > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo > > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what > it is. > > Thanks > > Tom Young Have a look here: WinXP Setup stops responding with 34 minutes remaining: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828267
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop What Pegasus said. Are you using the CDs that came with the machine? -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ TomYoung wrote: > Hi all: > > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo > > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what > it is. > > Thanks > > Tom Young
Guest TomYoung Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop On May 17, 1:17 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: > What Pegasus said. > > Are you using the CDs that came with the machine? > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 > AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net > DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/ No, this is a retail WindowsXP Home Edition, Version 2002, CD, which includes, I believe SP2. Tom Young > > TomYoung wrote: > > Hi all: > > > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM > > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB > > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo > > > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some > > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what > > it is. > > > Thanks > > > Tom Young
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop TomYoung wrote: <paste> >> Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM >> Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB >> RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo >> >> Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some >> hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what >> it is. </paste> > PA Bear wrote: >> What Pegasus said. >> >> Are you using the CDs that came with the machine? >> -- > No, this is a retail WindowsXP Home Edition, Version 2002, CD, which > includes, I believe SP2. I wouldn't attempt that with a laptop, especially a Thinkpad! Good luck with that. -- ~PA Bear
Guest Unknown Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop You say 'fresh install', does that mean XP has never run on the laptop? There is a lot of old hardware not compatible with XP. "TomYoung" <tgyoung@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:e49524fb-8a23-4b2b-8280-5a1ab06bb05d@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On May 17, 1:17 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: >> What Pegasus said. >> >> Are you using the CDs that came with the machine? >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net >> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/ > > No, this is a retail WindowsXP Home Edition, Version 2002, CD, which > includes, I believe SP2. > > Tom Young > >> >> TomYoung wrote: >> > Hi all: >> >> > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM >> > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB >> > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo >> >> > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some >> > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what >> > it is. >> >> > Thanks >> >> > Tom Young > >
Guest TomYoung Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop On May 17, 1:58 pm, "Unknown" <unkn...@unknown.kom> wrote: > You say 'fresh install', does that mean XP has never run on the laptop? > There is a lot of old hardware not compatible with XP."TomYoung" <tgyo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message That's what's puzzling. When I got the machine it was running WinXP Pro, and running just fine. So, I wiped the hard drive and started fresh. The WinXP Home CD is an upgrade CD, so I "showed" it my Win98 CD and off it ran, installing right along. I just can't get past the 35 minutes to go mark. I'd assume a machine capable of running XP Pro could run the Home version. Tom Young > > news:e49524fb-8a23-4b2b-8280-5a1ab06bb05d@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > On May 17, 1:17 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What Pegasus said. > > >> Are you using the CDs that came with the machine? > >> -- > >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 > >> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net > >> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/ > > > No, this is a retail WindowsXP Home Edition, Version 2002, CD, which > > includes, I believe SP2. > > > Tom Young > > >> TomYoung wrote: > >> > Hi all: > > >> > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM > >> > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB > >> > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo > > >> > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some > >> > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what > >> > it is. > > >> > Thanks > > >> > Tom Young
Guest TomYoung Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop On May 17, 1:12 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote: > "TomYoung" <tgyo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:e7a862e1-f86f-4a6a-9069-d288e99401bf@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... > > > Hi all: > > > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM > > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB > > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo > > > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some > > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what > > it is. > > > Thanks > > > Tom Young > > Have a look here: > WinXP Setup stops responding with 34 minutes remaining:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828267 I've looked at the Help and Support page but, once I restart the computer doesn't the install program start fresh .txt and .log files? How do you get the install program to load windows enough to open the command prompt without the program running off and re-writing what you're trying to look at? Tom Young
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop "TomYoung" <tgyoung@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:286e8a6d-4c7d-478d-9ec4-4067d6b5d4ce@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > On May 17, 1:12 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote: >> "TomYoung" <tgyo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:e7a862e1-f86f-4a6a-9069-d288e99401bf@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... >> >> > Hi all: >> >> > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM >> > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB >> > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo >> >> > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some >> > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what >> > it is. >> >> > Thanks >> >> > Tom Young >> >> Have a look here: >> WinXP Setup stops responding with 34 minutes >> remaining:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828267 > > I've looked at the Help and Support page but, once I restart the > computer doesn't the install program start fresh .txt and .log files? > How do you get the install program to load windows enough to open the > command prompt without the program running off and re-writing what > you're trying to look at? > > Tom Young The page I quoted requires you to restart the installation process several times. Apparently the process skips certain devices each time it gets restarted. The page also says to press Shift+F10 after the first restart, which apparently opens a Command Prompt so that you can examine pnplog.txt. If you are unable to do this then you could boot the machine with a Win98 boot disk from http://www.bootdisk.com and run ntfsdos.exe from http://www.sysinternals.com so that you can examine pnplog.txt even if it resides on an NTFS partition.
Guest TomYoung Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop On May 17, 11:02 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote: > "TomYoung" <tgyo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:286e8a6d-4c7d-478d-9ec4-4067d6b5d4ce@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On May 17, 1:12 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >> "TomYoung" <tgyo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >>news:e7a862e1-f86f-4a6a-9069-d288e99401bf@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... > > >> > Hi all: > > >> > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM > >> > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB > >> > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo > > >> > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some > >> > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what > >> > it is. > > >> > Thanks > > >> > Tom Young > > >> Have a look here: > >> WinXP Setup stops responding with 34 minutes > >> remaining:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828267 > > > I've looked at the Help and Support page but, once I restart the > > computer doesn't the install program start fresh .txt and .log files? > > How do you get the install program to load windows enough to open the > > command prompt without the program running off and re-writing what > > you're trying to look at? > > > Tom Young > > The page I quoted requires you to restart the installation process several > times. Apparently the process skips certain devices each time it gets > restarted. The page also says to press Shift+F10 after the first restart, > which apparently opens a Command Prompt so that you can examine > pnplog.txt. If you are unable to do this then you could boot the machine > with a Win98 boot disk fromwww.bootdisk.comand run ntfsdos.exe > fromwww.sysinternals.comso that you can examine pnplog.txt even > if it resides on an NTFS partition. I've rebooted dozens of times and haven't made any progress. By ejecting the Windows CD I can "stall" the install program and look at the hard drive. There *is* no pnplog.txt on the drive, thought there's a setuplog.txt file which doesn't show any obvious errors. I've also view the setupapi.log file that shows all sorts errors, variations of "#E077 Could not locate a non-empty section [iis_common_install] when calculating disk space in 'C:\WINDOWS\INF \iis.inf'. Error 0xe0000102: The required line was not found in the INF." All too much for me. Thanks. Tom Young
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop "TomYoung" <tgyoung@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8e3cfb13-3947-4b57-937f-7e71b71f18ed@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On May 17, 11:02 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote: >> "TomYoung" <tgyo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:286e8a6d-4c7d-478d-9ec4-4067d6b5d4ce@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On May 17, 1:12 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote: >> >> "TomYoung" <tgyo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:e7a862e1-f86f-4a6a-9069-d288e99401bf@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > Hi all: >> >> >> > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a >> >> > IBM >> >> > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), >> >> > 256MB >> >> > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com >> >> > combo >> >> >> > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some >> >> > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what >> >> > it is. >> >> >> > Thanks >> >> >> > Tom Young >> >> >> Have a look here: >> >> WinXP Setup stops responding with 34 minutes >> >> remaining:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828267 >> >> > I've looked at the Help and Support page but, once I restart the >> > computer doesn't the install program start fresh .txt and .log files? >> > How do you get the install program to load windows enough to open the >> > command prompt without the program running off and re-writing what >> > you're trying to look at? >> >> > Tom Young >> >> The page I quoted requires you to restart the installation process >> several >> times. Apparently the process skips certain devices each time it gets >> restarted. The page also says to press Shift+F10 after the first restart, >> which apparently opens a Command Prompt so that you can examine >> pnplog.txt. If you are unable to do this then you could boot the machine >> with a Win98 boot disk fromwww.bootdisk.comand run ntfsdos.exe >> fromwww.sysinternals.comso that you can examine pnplog.txt even >> if it resides on an NTFS partition. > > I've rebooted dozens of times and haven't made any progress. By > ejecting the Windows CD I can "stall" the install program and look at > the hard drive. There *is* no pnplog.txt on the drive, thought > there's a setuplog.txt file which doesn't show any obvious errors. > I've also view the setupapi.log file that shows all sorts errors, > variations of "#E077 Could not locate a non-empty section > [iis_common_install] when calculating disk space in 'C:\WINDOWS\INF > \iis.inf'. Error 0xe0000102: The required line was not found in the > INF." > > All too much for me. > > Thanks. > > Tom Young Here are a few options I see for you: - Use the factory recovery feature that is built into Thinkpads. - Ask your local PC service person to load WinXP for you. - Ask an authorised IBM/Lenovo service centre to restore your disk to factory condition.
Guest Unknown Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop What do you mean 'showed it your Win 98 CD'? Why didn't you get a Windows xp instead of an update? "TomYoung" <tgyoung@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1c3abc88-78a4-4dc5-913f-835d652591e8@a9g2000prl.googlegroups.com... > On May 17, 1:58 pm, "Unknown" <unkn...@unknown.kom> wrote: >> You say 'fresh install', does that mean XP has never run on the laptop? >> There is a lot of old hardware not compatible with XP."TomYoung" >> <tgyo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > That's what's puzzling. When I got the machine it was running WinXP > Pro, and running just fine. So, I wiped the hard drive and started > fresh. The WinXP Home CD is an upgrade CD, so I "showed" it my Win98 > CD and off it ran, installing right along. I just can't get past the > 35 minutes to go mark. I'd assume a machine capable of running XP Pro > could run the Home version. > > Tom Young >> >> news:e49524fb-8a23-4b2b-8280-5a1ab06bb05d@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> > On May 17, 1:17 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> What Pegasus said. >> >> >> Are you using the CDs that came with the machine? >> >> -- >> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >> >> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net >> >> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/ >> >> > No, this is a retail WindowsXP Home Edition, Version 2002, CD, which >> > includes, I believe SP2. >> >> > Tom Young >> >> >> TomYoung wrote: >> >> > Hi all: >> >> >> > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a >> >> > IBM >> >> > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), >> >> > 256MB >> >> > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com >> >> > combo >> >> >> > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some >> >> > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what >> >> > it is. >> >> >> > Thanks >> >> >> > Tom Young >
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop TomYoung wrote: >>>>> Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM >>>>> Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB >>>>> RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo >> >>>>> Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some >>>>> hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what >>>>> it is. >> >>>> Have a look here: >>>> WinXP Setup stops responding with 34 minutes >>>> remaining:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828267 >> >>> I've looked at the Help and Support page but, once I restart the >>> computer doesn't the install program start fresh .txt and .log files? >>> How do you get the install program to load windows enough to open the >>> command prompt without the program running off and re-writing what >>> you're trying to look at? >> >> The page I quoted requires you to restart the installation process >> several >> times. Apparently the process skips certain devices each time it gets >> restarted. The page also says to press Shift+F10 after the first restart, >> which apparently opens a Command Prompt so that you can examine >> pnplog.txt. If you are unable to do this then you could boot the machine >> with a Win98 boot disk fromwww.bootdisk.comand run ntfsdos.exe >> fromwww.sysinternals.comso that you can examine pnplog.txt even >> if it resides on an NTFS partition. > > I've rebooted dozens of times and haven't made any progress. By > ejecting the Windows CD I can "stall" the install program and look at > the hard drive. There *is* no pnplog.txt on the drive, thought > there's a setuplog.txt file which doesn't show any obvious errors. > I've also view the setupapi.log file that shows all sorts errors, > variations of "#E077 Could not locate a non-empty section > [iis_common_install] when calculating disk space in 'C:\WINDOWS\INF > \iis.inf'. Error 0xe0000102: The required line was not found in the > INF." > > All too much for me. Either use the WinXP CD(s) that came with the machine, the hidden Recovery partition, or contact Lenovo Support, Tom. Good luck. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
Guest TomYoung Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop On May 18, 12:15 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: > TomYoung wrote: > >>>>> Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM > >>>>> Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB > >>>>> RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo > > >>>>> Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some > >>>>> hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what > >>>>> it is. > > >>>> Have a look here: > >>>> WinXP Setup stops responding with 34 minutes > >>>> remaining:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828267 > > >>> I've looked at the Help and Support page but, once I restart the > >>> computer doesn't the install program start fresh .txt and .log files? > >>> How do you get the install program to load windows enough to open the > >>> command prompt without the program running off and re-writing what > >>> you're trying to look at? > > >> The page I quoted requires you to restart the installation process > >> several > >> times. Apparently the process skips certain devices each time it gets > >> restarted. The page also says to press Shift+F10 after the first restart, > >> which apparently opens a Command Prompt so that you can examine > >> pnplog.txt. If you are unable to do this then you could boot the machine > >> with a Win98 boot disk fromwww.bootdisk.comandrun ntfsdos.exe > >> fromwww.sysinternals.comsothat you can examine pnplog.txt even > >> if it resides on an NTFS partition. > > > I've rebooted dozens of times and haven't made any progress. By > > ejecting the Windows CD I can "stall" the install program and look at > > the hard drive. There *is* no pnplog.txt on the drive, thought > > there's a setuplog.txt file which doesn't show any obvious errors. > > I've also view the setupapi.log file that shows all sorts errors, > > variations of "#E077 Could not locate a non-empty section > > [iis_common_install] when calculating disk space in 'C:\WINDOWS\INF > > \iis.inf'. Error 0xe0000102: The required line was not found in the > > INF." > > > All too much for me. > > Either use the WinXP CD(s) that came with the machine, the hidden Recovery > partition, or contact Lenovo Support, Tom. Good luck. > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 > AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net > DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/ I don't have the WinXP CD's that came with the machine and I wiped the hard drive before starting the exercise of loading Win XP Home. I've since determined that the hard drive probably is funky and that might be the real problem here. I didn't even think of that since Win XP Pro by all accounts seemed to be running fine. I may buy a new hard drive and try the whole thing again, or maybe not. Tom Young
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop TomYoung wrote: > On May 18, 12:15 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: >> TomYoung wrote: >>>>>>> Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a >>>>>>> IBM >>>>>>> Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), >>>>>>> 256MB >>>>>>> RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com >>>>>>> combo >> >>>>>>> Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some >>>>>>> hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what >>>>>>> it is. >> >>>>>> Have a look here: >>>>>> WinXP Setup stops responding with 34 minutes >>>>>> remaining:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828267 >> >>>>> I've looked at the Help and Support page but, once I restart the >>>>> computer doesn't the install program start fresh .txt and .log files? >>>>> How do you get the install program to load windows enough to open the >>>>> command prompt without the program running off and re-writing what >>>>> you're trying to look at? >> >>>> The page I quoted requires you to restart the installation process >>>> several >>>> times. Apparently the process skips certain devices each time it gets >>>> restarted. The page also says to press Shift+F10 after the first >>>> restart, >>>> which apparently opens a Command Prompt so that you can examine >>>> pnplog.txt. If you are unable to do this then you could boot the >>>> machine >>>> with a Win98 boot disk fromwww.bootdisk.comandrun ntfsdos.exe >>>> fromwww.sysinternals.comsothat you can examine pnplog.txt even >>>> if it resides on an NTFS partition. >> >>> I've rebooted dozens of times and haven't made any progress. By >>> ejecting the Windows CD I can "stall" the install program and look at >>> the hard drive. There *is* no pnplog.txt on the drive, thought >>> there's a setuplog.txt file which doesn't show any obvious errors. >>> I've also view the setupapi.log file that shows all sorts errors, >>> variations of "#E077 Could not locate a non-empty section >>> [iis_common_install] when calculating disk space in 'C:\WINDOWS\INF >>> \iis.inf'. Error 0xe0000102: The required line was not found in the >>> INF." >> >>> All too much for me. >> >> Either use the WinXP CD(s) that came with the machine, the hidden >> Recovery >> partition, or contact Lenovo Support, Tom. Good luck. >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net >> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/ > > I don't have the WinXP CD's that came with the machine and I wiped the > hard drive before starting the exercise of loading Win XP Home. I've > since determined that the hard drive probably is funky and that might > be the real problem here. I didn't even think of that since Win XP > Pro by all accounts seemed to be running fine. I may buy a new hard > drive and try the whole thing again, or maybe not. You'll still need the Thinkpad-specific drivers, Tom.
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop That is possible. I just replaced the hard drive in my wife's Compaq Presario R4025US for almost the same exact reason you are talking about. It turned out that the drive was failing and once I replaced it I was able to clean install XP Home from the HP/Compaq cd that came with the computer with no issues and in a fraction of the time it was taking on the old hard drive. I could eventually get the OS installed with the old hdd but within a day the system would begin failing again. Anyway, as you recall from the KB article linked by Pegasus, the 34 minute issue is hardware related and the hard drive is a prime candidate. Good luck with it. And get your drivers and utilities downloaded for your Thinkpad. "TomYoung" <tgyoung@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:a85536ae-2c3f-4f5c-800f-7c8706ccb230@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com... > On May 18, 12:15 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: >> TomYoung wrote: >> >>>>> Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a >> >>>>> IBM >> >>>>> Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), >> >>>>> 256MB >> >>>>> RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com >> >>>>> combo >> >> >>>>> Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be >> >>>>> some >> >>>>> hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand >> >>>>> what >> >>>>> it is. >> >> >>>> Have a look here: >> >>>> WinXP Setup stops responding with 34 minutes >> >>>> remaining:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828267 >> >> >>> I've looked at the Help and Support page but, once I restart the >> >>> computer doesn't the install program start fresh .txt and .log files? >> >>> How do you get the install program to load windows enough to open the >> >>> command prompt without the program running off and re-writing what >> >>> you're trying to look at? >> >> >> The page I quoted requires you to restart the installation process >> >> several >> >> times. Apparently the process skips certain devices each time it gets >> >> restarted. The page also says to press Shift+F10 after the first >> >> restart, >> >> which apparently opens a Command Prompt so that you can examine >> >> pnplog.txt. If you are unable to do this then you could boot the >> >> machine >> >> with a Win98 boot disk fromwww.bootdisk.comandrun ntfsdos.exe >> >> fromwww.sysinternals.comsothat you can examine pnplog.txt even >> >> if it resides on an NTFS partition. >> >> > I've rebooted dozens of times and haven't made any progress. By >> > ejecting the Windows CD I can "stall" the install program and look at >> > the hard drive. There *is* no pnplog.txt on the drive, thought >> > there's a setuplog.txt file which doesn't show any obvious errors. >> > I've also view the setupapi.log file that shows all sorts errors, >> > variations of "#E077 Could not locate a non-empty section >> > [iis_common_install] when calculating disk space in 'C:\WINDOWS\INF >> > \iis.inf'. Error 0xe0000102: The required line was not found in the >> > INF." >> >> > All too much for me. >> >> Either use the WinXP CD(s) that came with the machine, the hidden >> Recovery >> partition, or contact Lenovo Support, Tom. Good luck. >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net >> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/ > > I don't have the WinXP CD's that came with the machine and I wiped the > hard drive before starting the exercise of loading Win XP Home. I've > since determined that the hard drive probably is funky and that might > be the real problem here. I didn't even think of that since Win XP > Pro by all accounts seemed to be running fine. I may buy a new hard > drive and try the whole thing again, or maybe not. > > Tom Young
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop btw, I looked on http://www.restoredisks.com/finddisk.asp?mode=series for you to see if RestoreDisks.com happened to have your software and the closest is a Thinkpad 2289. You might ask them anyway. "TomYoung" <tgyoung@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:a85536ae-2c3f-4f5c-800f-7c8706ccb230@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com... > On May 18, 12:15 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: >> TomYoung wrote: >> >>>>> Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a >> >>>>> IBM >> >>>>> Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), >> >>>>> 256MB >> >>>>> RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com >> >>>>> combo >> >> >>>>> Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be >> >>>>> some >> >>>>> hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand >> >>>>> what >> >>>>> it is. >> >> >>>> Have a look here: >> >>>> WinXP Setup stops responding with 34 minutes >> >>>> remaining:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828267 >> >> >>> I've looked at the Help and Support page but, once I restart the >> >>> computer doesn't the install program start fresh .txt and .log files? >> >>> How do you get the install program to load windows enough to open the >> >>> command prompt without the program running off and re-writing what >> >>> you're trying to look at? >> >> >> The page I quoted requires you to restart the installation process >> >> several >> >> times. Apparently the process skips certain devices each time it gets >> >> restarted. The page also says to press Shift+F10 after the first >> >> restart, >> >> which apparently opens a Command Prompt so that you can examine >> >> pnplog.txt. If you are unable to do this then you could boot the >> >> machine >> >> with a Win98 boot disk fromwww.bootdisk.comandrun ntfsdos.exe >> >> fromwww.sysinternals.comsothat you can examine pnplog.txt even >> >> if it resides on an NTFS partition. >> >> > I've rebooted dozens of times and haven't made any progress. By >> > ejecting the Windows CD I can "stall" the install program and look at >> > the hard drive. There *is* no pnplog.txt on the drive, thought >> > there's a setuplog.txt file which doesn't show any obvious errors. >> > I've also view the setupapi.log file that shows all sorts errors, >> > variations of "#E077 Could not locate a non-empty section >> > [iis_common_install] when calculating disk space in 'C:\WINDOWS\INF >> > \iis.inf'. Error 0xe0000102: The required line was not found in the >> > INF." >> >> > All too much for me. >> >> Either use the WinXP CD(s) that came with the machine, the hidden >> Recovery >> partition, or contact Lenovo Support, Tom. Good luck. >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net >> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/ > > I don't have the WinXP CD's that came with the machine and I wiped the > hard drive before starting the exercise of loading Win XP Home. I've > since determined that the hard drive probably is funky and that might > be the real problem here. I didn't even think of that since Win XP > Pro by all accounts seemed to be running fine. I may buy a new hard > drive and try the whole thing again, or maybe not. > > Tom Young
Guest Daave Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop TomYoung wrote: > Hi all: > > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo > > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what > it is. Have a look at: http://techtracer.com/2007/03/12/xp-installation-the-34-minute-hiccup/
Guest TomYoung Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop On May 19, 6:59 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: > TomYoung wrote: > > Hi all: > > > Trying to do a fresh install on an older Thinkpad Laptop. It's a IBM > > Thinkpad 2647-AMU with the following specs: PIII 700MHz (256KB), 256MB > > RAM, 12.0GB HDD, 14.1 TFT 1024x768 LCD, 6x-2.3x DVD drive, 3Com combo > > > Setup hangs with either 35 or 34 minutes to go. It's got to be some > > hardware issue and I was just wondering if anybody knew offhand what > > it is. > > Have a look at: > > http://techtracer.com/2007/03/12/xp-installation-the-34-minute-hiccup/ Well now, this is more than a little bit strange. Last night I wiped the laptop's hard drive again, (Darik's "Boot & Nuke") and I noticed, after the progam was done, that there was a message that there might be problems with the drive. (I'm pretty sure that message showed up after the first time I ran Boot & Nuke, but I just didn't notice.) So, I downloaded an Hitachi diagnostic program and it, too, said there was a problem with the hard drive. Case closed. So, 1st thing this morning I bought another hard drive for the laptop on eBay ("Buy Now"), and then wandered back over to Usenet to see if anybody had anything more to say about the issue. Saw your post, clicked over the techtracer.com and read the article and said "What the heck, I'll try this one more time." I inserted the Win XP disk again and, after it was satisfied I was eligible for the upgrade, the program began formatting the hard drive. Knowing this would take a while and expecting that things might not work out real well I jumped on my bicycle and took a two hour ride. After getting home, mopping off and drinking a couple of glasses of water I stepped back into our "computer room" and read on the laptop's screen "Setup will complete in approximately 33 minutes"!!!!! For reason unbenknown to me Win XP seems to have worked through its issues with this laptop and seems to have sucessfully installed, found drivers, etc. I'm writing this on the laptop now! Very weird; maybe the computer knew I'd purchased a new hard drive and decided to clean up its act. Anybody need a "Working good" Hitachi 20GB hard drive? It should show up in the mail in a few days. Tom Young
Guest Daave Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop "TomYoung" <tgyoung@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:6655a737-4386-45cb-b51e-fad9e3986d81@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > Well now, this is more than a little bit strange. > Last night I wiped the laptop's hard drive again, (Darik's "Boot & > Nuke") and I noticed, after the progam was done, that there was a > message that there might be problems with the drive. (I'm pretty sure > that message showed up after the first time I ran Boot & Nuke, but I > just didn't notice.) So, I downloaded an Hitachi diagnostic program > and it, too, said there was a problem with the hard drive. Case > closed. What *kind* of problem with the hard drive? > Anybody need a "Working good" Hitachi 20GB hard drive? It should > show up in the mail in a few days. Not so fast; you might need it eventually (depending on the problem of your current hard drive).
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop I agree. I started having problems with formatting and installing and it would seem to get fixed, but only for a day or two. In the end a new hard drive was the solution. So, I agree with Daave. Hold on the the new drive a while. "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message news:O4kp$$fuIHA.396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "TomYoung" <tgyoung@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:6655a737-4386-45cb-b51e-fad9e3986d81@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > >> Well now, this is more than a little bit strange. > >> Last night I wiped the laptop's hard drive again, (Darik's "Boot & >> Nuke") and I noticed, after the progam was done, that there was a >> message that there might be problems with the drive. (I'm pretty sure >> that message showed up after the first time I ran Boot & Nuke, but I >> just didn't notice.) So, I downloaded an Hitachi diagnostic program >> and it, too, said there was a problem with the hard drive. Case >> closed. > > What *kind* of problem with the hard drive? > >> Anybody need a "Working good" Hitachi 20GB hard drive? It should >> show up in the mail in a few days. > > Not so fast; you might need it eventually (depending on the problem of > your current hard drive). >
Guest garynewelluk Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Re: Can't Install Windows XP on a IBM Thinkpad Laptop I have a thinkpad and I was stuck with the same situation. It turned out to be the xircom ethernet/modem card. Turn your laptop over and you will see the top panel which is for memory, the battery to the right of that and underneath the memory you will see another panel. Turn the screw. You will see a little xircom device. Pull it out. Attempt your XP Install again. Worked for me. -- garynewelluk Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
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