SP3 and Windows Defender

[Guest Simon]

I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG 8.0

and Windows Defender.

 

Not sure whether this is coincidence but Defender is now doing a daily quick

scan shortly after PC startup. This is not scheduled by me - the schedule

setting is for a once a week quick scan on a Friday evening. PC is also

running slower than before SP£ update. Does SP3 override Defender in some

way?

[Guest Nonny]

Re: SP3 and Windows Defender

 

On Sun, 18 May 2008 00:58:00 -0700, Simon

<Simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG 8.0

>and Windows Defender.

>

>Not sure whether this is coincidence but Defender is now doing a daily quick

>scan shortly after PC startup. This is not scheduled by me - the schedule

>setting is for a once a week quick scan on a Friday evening. PC is also

>running slower than before SP£ update. Does SP3 override Defender in some

>way?

 

Can't answer any of your questions but I have one of my own about your

setup: why are you running AVG 8.0 and Windows Defender?

 

I don't think you need both. I disabled Defender when I loaded AVG

8.0. Doing the same might speed things up for you. Just a guess.

[Guest Andrea]

Re: SP3 and Windows Defender

 

Nonny, I use AVG, CounterSpy (out of same stable as Defender) and Spyware

Doctor. In the past I have found that all three find problems that the

others have not picked up on.

Andrea

 

 

"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:fq103497c9vaqldlqqmm8e1j0bu0bj2fts@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 18 May 2008 00:58:00 -0700, Simon

> <Simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

>>I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG 8.0

>>and Windows Defender.

>>

>>Not sure whether this is coincidence but Defender is now doing a daily

>>quick

>>scan shortly after PC startup. This is not scheduled by me - the schedule

>>setting is for a once a week quick scan on a Friday evening. PC is also

>>running slower than before SP£ update. Does SP3 override Defender in some

>>way?

>

> Can't answer any of your questions but I have one of my own about your

> setup: why are you running AVG 8.0 and Windows Defender?

>

> I don't think you need both. I disabled Defender when I loaded AVG

> 8.0. Doing the same might speed things up for you. Just a guess.

[Guest Simon]

Re: SP3 and Windows Defender

 

Thanks but can we get back to my thread - why is Defender generating a quick

scan every day when the setting is for one a week only?

 

"Andrea" wrote:

> Nonny, I use AVG, CounterSpy (out of same stable as Defender) and Spyware

> Doctor. In the past I have found that all three find problems that the

> others have not picked up on.

> Andrea

>

>

> "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:fq103497c9vaqldlqqmm8e1j0bu0bj2fts@4ax.com...

> > On Sun, 18 May 2008 00:58:00 -0700, Simon

> > <Simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> >

> >>I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG 8.0

> >>and Windows Defender.

> >>

> >>Not sure whether this is coincidence but Defender is now doing a daily

> >>quick

> >>scan shortly after PC startup. This is not scheduled by me - the schedule

> >>setting is for a once a week quick scan on a Friday evening. PC is also

> >>running slower than before SP£ update. Does SP3 override Defender in some

> >>way?

> >

> > Can't answer any of your questions but I have one of my own about your

> > setup: why are you running AVG 8.0 and Windows Defender?

> >

> > I don't think you need both. I disabled Defender when I loaded AVG

> > 8.0. Doing the same might speed things up for you. Just a guess.

>

>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: SP3 and Windows Defender

 

Running several antispyware programs on a computer is OK. The user should

run only one antivirus program.

 

"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:fq103497c9vaqldlqqmm8e1j0bu0bj2fts@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 18 May 2008 00:58:00 -0700, Simon

> <Simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

>>I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG 8.0

>>and Windows Defender.

>>

>>Not sure whether this is coincidence but Defender is now doing a daily

>>quick

>>scan shortly after PC startup. This is not scheduled by me - the schedule

>>setting is for a once a week quick scan on a Friday evening. PC is also

>>running slower than before SP£ update. Does SP3 override Defender in some

>>way?

>

> Can't answer any of your questions but I have one of my own about your

> setup: why are you running AVG 8.0 and Windows Defender?

>

> I don't think you need both. I disabled Defender when I loaded AVG

> 8.0. Doing the same might speed things up for you. Just a guess.

[Guest RJK]

Re: SP3 and Windows Defender

 

....just to throw in my "tuppence worth," I bought a "3 license pack AVG 8.0

Internet Security, a few days ago, and, (having left Spybot S&D 1.5.2

running in my main PC), ...then after an AVG 8.0 a/v hd sweep - AVG reported

"30 items {they were actually registry keys} - warning" but, no "healing."

After a quick hunt with Google I spotted people talking about one of Spybot

S&D's anti-malware technique's is to drop about 30 keys into the Windows

registry to "trick" those particular 30 odd types of malware ! ...so with

great regret, (seeing as S&D is free ...and I donated £15 to them a couple

of months ago!), I removed Spybot S&D

 

I quite like AVG 8.0 but, I'm not keen on the advice they've given out to

people recently, and in particular to one customer who emailed them about

this "anomaly" when running AVG 8.0 with Spybot S&D), along the lines of,

"...we suggest you drop your "multi-layered" approach to internet security

in preference of running just one internet security suite...).

 

regards, Richard

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> Running several antispyware programs on a computer is OK. The user should

> run only one antivirus program.

>

> "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:fq103497c9vaqldlqqmm8e1j0bu0bj2fts@4ax.com...

>> On Sun, 18 May 2008 00:58:00 -0700, Simon

>> <Simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>>

>>>I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG

>>>8.0

>>>and Windows Defender.

>>>

>>>Not sure whether this is coincidence but Defender is now doing a daily

>>>quick

>>>scan shortly after PC startup. This is not scheduled by me - the

>>>schedule

>>>setting is for a once a week quick scan on a Friday evening. PC is also

>>>running slower than before SP£ update. Does SP3 override Defender in

>>>some

>>>way?

>>

>> Can't answer any of your questions but I have one of my own about your

>> setup: why are you running AVG 8.0 and Windows Defender?

>>

>> I don't think you need both. I disabled Defender when I loaded AVG

>> 8.0. Doing the same might speed things up for you. Just a guess.

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: SP3 and Windows Defender

 

> I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG 8.0

> and Windows Defender.

 

Were AVG and Defender both disabled before you installed SP3? Did you

install SP3 via Windows Update or manually?

 

==============================================

 

Microsoft has established separate newsgroups for Windows Defender support

and comments. This is not one of them.

 

See

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/newsgroups/default.mspx

 

TIP: Access these newsgroups using your default newsreader, not your

browser. See instructions on above page.

 

===============================================

 

Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for

Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and

e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.

 

• US:

http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

 

• CA:

http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11273&gprid=522131

 

• UK:

http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11273&gprid=522131

 

• AU:

http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11273&gprid=522131

 

• Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select

Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

 

Simon wrote:

> I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG 8.0

> and Windows Defender.

>

> Not sure whether this is coincidence but Defender is now doing a daily

> quick

> scan shortly after PC startup. This is not scheduled by me - the schedule

> setting is for a once a week quick scan on a Friday evening. PC is also

> running slower than before SP£ update. Does SP3 override Defender in some

> way?

[Guest Nonny]

Re: SP3 and Windows Defender

 

On Sun, 18 May 2008 11:51:23 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"

<c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>Running several antispyware programs on a computer is OK. The user should

>run only one antivirus program.

 

Cool. Thanks

 

>"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>news:fq103497c9vaqldlqqmm8e1j0bu0bj2fts@4ax.com...

>> On Sun, 18 May 2008 00:58:00 -0700, Simon

>> <Simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>>

>>>I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG 8.0

>>>and Windows Defender.

>>>

>>>Not sure whether this is coincidence but Defender is now doing a daily

>>>quick

>>>scan shortly after PC startup. This is not scheduled by me - the schedule

>>>setting is for a once a week quick scan on a Friday evening. PC is also

>>>running slower than before SP£ update. Does SP3 override Defender in some

>>>way?

>>

>> Can't answer any of your questions but I have one of my own about your

>> setup: why are you running AVG 8.0 and Windows Defender?

>>

>> I don't think you need both. I disabled Defender when I loaded AVG

>> 8.0. Doing the same might speed things up for you. Just a guess.

[Guest Simon]

Re: SP3 and Windows Defender

 

I take the point - thanks.

 

SP3 installed manually. Have now re-installed Defender and reverted from

AVG Antispyware 8.0 back to 7.5. Defender has stopped its unschedule quick

scans and PC speed back to normal.

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> > I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG 8.0

> > and Windows Defender.

>

> Were AVG and Defender both disabled before you installed SP3? Did you

> install SP3 via Windows Update or manually?

>

> ==============================================

>

> Microsoft has established separate newsgroups for Windows Defender support

> and comments. This is not one of them.

>

> See

> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/newsgroups/default.mspx

>

> TIP: Access these newsgroups using your default newsreader, not your

> browser. See instructions on above page.

>

> ===============================================

>

> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for

> Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and

> e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.

>

> • US:

> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

>

> • CA:

> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11273&gprid=522131

>

> • UK:

> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11273&gprid=522131

>

> • AU:

> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11273&gprid=522131

>

> • Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select

> Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3

> --

> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>

>

> Simon wrote:

> > I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG 8.0

> > and Windows Defender.

> >

> > Not sure whether this is coincidence but Defender is now doing a daily

> > quick

> > scan shortly after PC startup. This is not scheduled by me - the schedule

> > setting is for a once a week quick scan on a Friday evening. PC is also

> > running slower than before SP£ update. Does SP3 override Defender in some

> > way?

>

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: SP3 and Windows Defender

 

I have AVG (anti-virus) 8.0 and Defender installed in WinXP SP2 and have not

seen the behavior you describe; therefore it's possible that having either

of these applications running in the background when you installed WinXP SP3

caused this behavior.

 

WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation

http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

 

Steps to take before you install WinXP SP3

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717

 

Should you encounter further problems, see if uninstalling and then

reinstalling SP3 in the environment described above resolves the problems.

 

PS: AVG Anti-Virus v7.5 will no longer be supported after 31 May 2008 (i.e.,

no more definition or program updates).

 

AVG 8.0 installation tips/tweaks (some controversial but a worthwhile read

anyway)

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20475633- <=that trailing hyphen is part of

the URL!

--

~PA Bear

 

 

Simon wrote:

> I take the point - thanks.

>

> SP3 installed manually. Have now re-installed Defender and reverted from

> AVG Antispyware 8.0 back to 7.5. Defender has stopped its unschedule

> quick

> scans and PC speed back to normal.

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>> I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG

>>> 8.0

>>> and Windows Defender.

>>

>> Were AVG and Defender both disabled before you installed SP3? Did you

>> install SP3 via Windows Update or manually?

>>

>> ==============================================

>>

>> Microsoft has established separate newsgroups for Windows Defender

>> support

>> and comments. This is not one of them.

>>

>> See

>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/newsgroups/default.mspx

>>

>> TIP: Access these newsgroups using your default newsreader, not your

>> browser. See instructions on above page.

>>

>> ===============================================

>>

>> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for

>> Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and

>> e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.

>>

>> • US:

>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

>>

>> • CA:

>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11273&gprid=522131

>>

>> • UK:

>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11273&gprid=522131

>>

>> • AU:

>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11273&gprid=522131

>>

>> • Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 |

>> select

>> Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3

>> --

>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>

>>

>> Simon wrote:

>>> I updated from XP SP2 to SP3 about a week ago. I also run IE7 and AVG

>>> 8.0

>>> and Windows Defender.

>>>

>>> Not sure whether this is coincidence but Defender is now doing a daily

>>> quick

>>> scan shortly after PC startup. This is not scheduled by me - the

>>> schedule

>>> setting is for a once a week quick scan on a Friday evening. PC is also

>>> running slower than before SP£ update. Does SP3 override Defender in

>>> some

>>> way?