XP 64 OEM

[Guest z]

Hi.

Due to a physical issuel of cpu into motherboard I'm unable to upgrade my

cpu and thus must install a new motherboard+cpu.

 

Having only just become aware that OEM xp64 professional seems to have

limitations regarding hardware upgrades - I'm wondering what my options are

to avoid having to pay for another copy of a OS I already own and is for sole

personal use only.

 

The bottom line is, assuming that my OEM OS is "bound" to my motherboard,

and the cpu is stuck (arm in wrong position and cant eject the chip) how do I

upgrade my system without needing to purchase a new OS?

 

Can I get an OEM to Retail upgrade as OEM was all that was availabe to me at

time of purchase? Would my motherboard having a fault with the chip ejection

arm constitute mitigating circumstances etc?..

 

If anyone can shed some light and hope on this situation I'd be grateful.

[Guest John]

Re: XP 64 OEM

 

z wrote:

> Hi.

> Due to a physical issuel of cpu into motherboard I'm unable to upgrade my

> cpu and thus must install a new motherboard+cpu.

 

Can you explain why you couldn't upgrade your CPU after you remove the

motherboard please?

 

John.

[Guest Ramone]

Re: XP 64 OEM

 

Read the post, he already explained it.

 

"John" <zen@zen.co.uk> wrote in message

news:69nfblF2tmkhuU1@mid.individual.net...

>z wrote:

>> Hi.

>> Due to a physical issuel of cpu into motherboard I'm unable to upgrade my

>> cpu and thus must install a new motherboard+cpu.

>

> Can you explain why you couldn't upgrade your CPU after you remove the

> motherboard please?

>

> John.

[Guest Tim Slattery]

Re: XP 64 OEM

 

z <z@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>The bottom line is, assuming that my OEM OS is "bound" to my motherboard,

>and the cpu is stuck (arm in wrong position and cant eject the chip) how do I

>upgrade my system without needing to purchase a new OS?

 

If you swap the motherboard you're probably stuck, especially if the

OS came preloaded on your machine. According to the EULA, the OEM

version is valid only for the first machine it's installed on, even if

that machine ceases to exist. If it was preloaded all support comes

from the OEM, and most of them would decide that a new motherboard

constitutes a new machine. If you bought the new motherboard from

them, you may (or may not) get a break.

>Can I get an OEM to Retail upgrade as OEM was all that was availabe to me at

>time of purchase? Would my motherboard having a fault with the chip ejection

>arm constitute mitigating circumstances etc?..

 

There's no "OEM to retail" upgrade. There just isn't much leeway with

an OEM license, that's why it's cheaper than a retail license.

 

--

Tim Slattery

MS MVP(Shell/User)

Slattery_T@bls.gov

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[Guest Bob I]

Re: XP 64 OEM

 

Please be aware you don't OWN the OS, merely the right to use it under a

particular set of circumstances, and that is only using it on the first

PC it is installed on. So knowing that, answer for yourself the

following. Where did the PC and XP 64 OEM come from, did you build the

PC yourself or did you buy it as a package from a vendor like HP or

Dell? If you built it, YOU are the OEM and perform your own warranty

work and the license management ( reuse it on the repaired hardware). On

the other hand if you are NOT the OEM, then the license is managed by

the OEM and you would void the licensing rights by replacing the

motherboard yourself.

 

z wrote:

> Hi.

> Due to a physical issuel of cpu into motherboard I'm unable to upgrade my

> cpu and thus must install a new motherboard+cpu.

>

> Having only just become aware that OEM xp64 professional seems to have

> limitations regarding hardware upgrades - I'm wondering what my options are

> to avoid having to pay for another copy of a OS I already own and is for sole

> personal use only.

>

> The bottom line is, assuming that my OEM OS is "bound" to my motherboard,

> and the cpu is stuck (arm in wrong position and cant eject the chip) how do I

> upgrade my system without needing to purchase a new OS?

>

> Can I get an OEM to Retail upgrade as OEM was all that was availabe to me at

> time of purchase? Would my motherboard having a fault with the chip ejection

> arm constitute mitigating circumstances etc?..

>

> If anyone can shed some light and hope on this situation I'd be grateful.

>

>

[Guest Bruce Chambers]

Re: XP 64 OEM

 

z wrote:

> Hi.

> Due to a physical issuel of cpu into motherboard I'm unable to upgrade my

> cpu and thus must install a new motherboard+cpu.

>

> Having only just become aware that OEM xp64 professional seems to have

> limitations regarding hardware upgrades

 

 

What limitations? (Other than requiring 64-bit components, that is.)

 

> - I'm wondering what my options are

> to avoid having to pay for another copy of a OS I already own and is for sole

> personal use only.

>

 

 

There's no requirement for buying a new license each time you repair

(or upgrade the components within) your computer.

 

> The bottom line is, assuming that my OEM OS is "bound" to my motherboard,

> and the cpu is stuck (arm in wrong position and cant eject the chip) how do I

> upgrade my system without needing to purchase a new OS?

>

 

 

Why would you assume that your WinXP64 license is bound to the

motherboard? Unless you're a licensed Systems Builder assembling a

computer for sale to a 3rd party, it isn't. And even then, the

"binding" doesn't occur until you sell the computer; after all, you

haven't finished assembling it, have you?

 

There is no need for you to purchase a new license, if you're an ender

user repairing his/her own computer.

 

> Can I get an OEM to Retail upgrade as OEM was all that was availabe to me at

> time of purchase?

 

There is no such thing as a retail WinXPx64 license; it is available

only as an OEM license.

 

> Would my motherboard having a fault with the chip ejection

> arm constitute mitigating circumstances etc?..

>

> If anyone can shed some light and hope on this situation I'd be grateful.

>

>

 

 

No, there should be no need to purchase another WinXP license,

unless what you originally purchased was actually a "System Builders

One-Pack," which has a different EULA.

 

Some people mistakenly believe that the motherboard is the key

component that defines the "original computer," but the OEM EULA itself

does not make any such distinction. Others have said (tongue in cheek)

that one could successfully argue that it's the PC's case that is the

deciding component, as that is where one is instructed to affix the OEM

CoA label w/Product Key. Again, the EULA does *not* specifically define

any single component as the computer. Licensed Microsoft Systems

Builders, who are allowed to distribute OEM licenses with computers they

build and sell, are _contractually_ obligated to "define" the computer

as the motherboard, but this limitation/definition can't be applied to

the end user until the EULA is re-written.

 

Microsoft has, to date, been very careful _not_ to *publicly*

define when an incrementally upgraded computer ceases to be the original

computer. The closest I've ever seen a Microsoft employee come to this

definition (in a public forum) is to tell the person making the inquiry

to consult the PC's manufacturer. As the OEM license's support is

solely the responsibility of said manufacturer, they should determine

what sort of hardware changes to allow before the warranty and support

agreements are voided. To paraphrase: An incrementally upgraded

computer ceases to be the original computer, as pertains to the OEM

EULA, only when the *OEM* says it's a different computer. If you've

built the system yourself, and used a generic OEM CD, then _you_ are the

"OEM," and _you_ get to decide when you'll no longer support your own

product.

 

 

--

 

Bruce Chambers

 

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