need antivirus

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:48385853$0$15199$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > If it has to go online to download the files, It won't work. Should I even

> > try? Do

> > you have these files? My computer has a cd/dvd rom only, Can I install

> > them from your

> > cd? If yes I will send you my address. I am in Yorktown Heights, New York.

> > I am

> > housebound/disabled and can not get out to the library. Thank you. Ginny

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:OQnDgqVvIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> But try Brian's methods, first. The program IE6SETUP.EXE needs to

> >> download

> >> most of the files, first, and you may or may not be able to do that in

> >> your

> >> situation.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>

> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> news:e4zW7mVvIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> > Regardless of the message, just having those files isn't going to fix

> >> > it.

> >> > You need the installation files. You'll either have to go use a public

> >> > computer, or get some friend or acquaintance with a computer to

> >> > download a

> >> > copy and burn it to CD, or find someone who can mail you a copy. (Where

> >> > do

> >> > you live?) Or, you can try this link. Maybe it will work.

> >> > http://grystmill.com/shared/ie6sp1.zip

> >> >

> >> > The ZIP file is over 47 MB. If I have to email it, I will, but try that

> >> > link and/or consider other options first.

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > Gary S. Terhune

> >> > MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> > http://www.grystmill.com

> >> >

> >> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> > news:48378901$0$11601$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >>I went to add/remove programs, clicked on 'Microsoft Internet Explorer

> >> >>6SP1 and

> >> >> Internet Tools'. It said "can not repair Internet Explorer, Please run

> >> >> setup again to

> >> >> reinstall all components" ...under more info. it said"FileMSXML.DLL"

> >> >> is

> >> >> missing File

> >> >> MSXMLA.DLL IS missing, and File MSXMLR.DLL IS missing.

> >> >> Can I get these files through an e-mail (since I can't get online) and

> >> >> if

> >> >> I can

> >> >> .......can you give me specific directions as to how and where to

> >> >> install

> >> >> them?

> >> >> Thank you. Ginny

> >> >>

> >> >> "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

> >> >> news:u8agVGUvIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> >>> You might try calling up your ISP and see if they will walk you

> >> >>> through

> >> >>> it,

> >> >>> but the chances are slim with '98. Avast real time scanner has to be

> >> >>> set

> >> >>> up

> >> >>> manually for Win98 - it is not automatic for IE or FF as it is when

> >> >>> running

> >> >>> W2K & XP. If you haven't already, check further on the Avast website,

> >> >>> they

> >> >>> used to have an animation on how to do it and it's probably still

> >> >>> there.

> >> >>> The

> >> >>> last thing I can think of is to try the IE6 repair function in

> >> >>> add-remove.

> >> >>> You will lose any IE6 customizations, but on the bright side, IE6 is

> >> >>> so

> >> >>> clunky that you can't lose much.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> CdLSRN wrote:

> >> >>> > I did not have my mail coming through the Avast Virus Scanner, I

> >> >>> > had

> >> >>> > continuous protection and Web protection. I trusted the virus

> >> >>> > scanner

> >> >>> > at Cablevision to take care of my mail. Therefore, as I stated

> >> >>> > early

> >> >>> > on, I can not get online via Internet Explorer. I can not open and

> >> >>> > get online with any other ie: Mozilla (which is on my desktop) and

> >> >>> > I

> >> >>> > can not click on links.

> >> >>> > However, for about five minutes today I was able to get online

> >> >>> > before

> >> >>> > it re-appeared , and I downloaded the Avast remover utility. I used

> >> >>> > it in safe mode but I am still in the same condition I was

> >> >>> > before......I can send and receive e-mails but I can not get

> >> >>> > online.

> >> >>> > "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

> >> >>> > news:OYrrUlRvIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> >>> >> Since you are posting here, I think you could reconsider that

> >> >>> >> statement.

> >> >>> >>

> >> >>> >> CdLSRN wrote:

> >> >>> >>> Since I can't get online, I can't get the utility.

> >> >>> >>>

> >> >>> >>> "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

> >> >>> >>> news:uS%23EFtOvIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> >>> >>>> This may (or may not) help:

> >> >>> >>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-uninstall-utility.html

> >> >>> >>>> Now try reinstalling.

> >> >>> >>>>

> >> >>> >>>> I wouldn't give up on Avast, especially w/ Win98.

> >> >>> >>>>

> >> >>> >>>> CdLSRN wrote:

> >> >>> >>>>> I am still struggling with Avast. It is in my Internet Explorer

> >> >>> >>>>> and

> >> >>> >>>>> won't let me go online. I have installed and deleted it in safe

> >> >>> >>>>> mode

> >> >>> >>>>> several times. I get online for a short while then it restarts

> >> >>> >>>>> itself and I can only work offline. "Alan Edwards"

> >> >>> >>>>> <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote in message

> >> >>> >>>>> news:gpgc34lnd5qsobmhv6r8vtccrk8k61d1as@4ax.com...

> >> >>> >>>>>> I use avast! (free version)

> >> >>> >>>>>> http://www.avast.com/

> >> >>> >>>>>>

> >> >>> >>>>>> ...Alan

> >> >>> >>>>>> --

> >> >>> >>>>>> Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer

> >> >>> >>>>>> http://dts-l.com/index.htm

> >> >>> >>>>>>

> >> >>> >>>>>> On Thu, 22 May 2008 23:44:12 -0400, in

> >> >>> >>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "CdLSRN"

> >> >>> >>>>>> <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

> >> >>> >>>>>>

> >> >>> >>>>>>> Is there a antivirus that I can download that still supports

> >> >>> >>>>>>> Windows 98se for my Dell Dimension desktop?

> >> >>>

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 24, 2008

Re: need antivirus

I shoulda caught it the first time I read your post.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

news:uuwQoVdvIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Thanks Gary, I forget about the wrap here/there, I should have dropped it

> down to it's own line.

>

> --

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uxskL7cvIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Brian's command got wrapped. It needs to look EXACTLY like this,

>> including whether upper or loser case (parts of it, anyway.). There is

>> only one space, after RUNDLL32. What you should do is simply Copy/Paste

>> the line into the Run box.

>>

>> RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:48385d67$0$25063$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>>I did start, run, and typed "RUNDLLEWSETUPWBV.DLL" WITHOUT quotes and got

>>>a message

>>> could not find......dll or one of its components. etc. I put in the

>>> same thing with

>>> the ,IE6Maintenance" and got a message " can not fine". I put in the 1st

>>> one with a

>>> space between RUNDLL32 AND SETUP AND it did't even bother to give me any

>>> answer nor

>>> did it go anywhere.

>>>

>>> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

>>> news:O0hnGmVvIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> See if this helps to repair IE:

>>>> Click Start>Run, type the following and click Enter, for IE6x:

>>>> RUNDLL32

>>>> SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance

>>>> Choose the Repair option, and continue.

>>>> If the repair says it cannot complete, reinstall Internet Explorer

>>>> over

>>>> itself.

>>>>

>>>> The three .dll files that are reported as missing should be in

>>>> C:\Windows\System, check to see if they are there.

>>>>

>>>> If you need to reinstall IE, in Explorer expand C:\Program Files.

>>>> Click once on Internet Explorer to show the files/folders in the right

>>>> pane.

>>>> If ie6setup.exe is present, double click it to reinstall.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>>

>>>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

>>>> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>>>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>>>>

>>>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

>>>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>>>

>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:48378901$0$11601$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>>> >I went to add/remove programs, clicked on 'Microsoft Internet Explorer

>>>> >6SP1 and

>>>> > Internet Tools'. It said "can not repair Internet Explorer, Please

>>>> > run setup

>>>> > again to

>>>> > reinstall all components" ...under more info. it said"FileMSXML.DLL"

>>>> > is

>>>> > missing File

>>>> > MSXMLA.DLL IS missing, and File MSXMLR.DLL IS missing.

>>>> > Can I get these files through an e-mail (since I can't get online)

>>>> > and if I

>>>> > can

>>>> > .......can you give me specific directions as to how and where to

>>>> > install

>>>> > them?

>>>> > Thank you. Ginny

>>>> >

>>>> > "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

>>>> > news:u8agVGUvIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> >> You might try calling up your ISP and see if they will walk you

>>>> >> through it,

>>>> >> but the chances are slim with '98. Avast real time scanner has to be

>>>> >> set up

>>>> >> manually for Win98 - it is not automatic for IE or FF as it is when

>>>> >> running

>>>> >> W2K & XP. If you haven't already, check further on the Avast

>>>> >> website, they

>>>> >> used to have an animation on how to do it and it's probably still

>>>> >> there. The

>>>> >> last thing I can think of is to try the IE6 repair function in

>>>> >> add-remove.

>>>> >> You will lose any IE6 customizations, but on the bright side, IE6 is

>>>> >> so

>>>> >> clunky that you can't lose much.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> CdLSRN wrote:

>>>> >> > I did not have my mail coming through the Avast Virus Scanner, I

>>>> >> > had

>>>> >> > continuous protection and Web protection. I trusted the virus

>>>> >> > scanner

>>>> >> > at Cablevision to take care of my mail. Therefore, as I stated

>>>> >> > early

>>>> >> > on, I can not get online via Internet Explorer. I can not open and

>>>> >> > get online with any other ie: Mozilla (which is on my desktop) and

>>>> >> > I

>>>> >> > can not click on links.

>>>> >> > However, for about five minutes today I was able to get online

>>>> >> > before

>>>> >> > it re-appeared , and I downloaded the Avast remover utility. I

>>>> >> > used

>>>> >> > it in safe mode but I am still in the same condition I was

>>>> >> > before......I can send and receive e-mails but I can not get

>>>> >> > online.

>>>> >> > "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

>>>> >> > news:OYrrUlRvIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> >> >> Since you are posting here, I think you could reconsider that

>>>> >> >> statement.

>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >> CdLSRN wrote:

>>>> >> >>> Since I can't get online, I can't get the utility.

>>>> >> >>>

>>>> >> >>> "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

>>>> >> >>> news:uS%23EFtOvIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> >> >>>> This may (or may not) help:

>>>> >> >>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-uninstall-utility.html

>>>> >> >>>> Now try reinstalling.

>>>> >> >>>>

>>>> >> >>>> I wouldn't give up on Avast, especially w/ Win98.

>>>> >> >>>>

>>>> >> >>>> CdLSRN wrote:

>>>> >> >>>>> I am still struggling with Avast. It is in my Internet

>>>> >> >>>>> Explorer

>>>> >> >>>>> and

>>>> >> >>>>> won't let me go online. I have installed and deleted it in

>>>> >> >>>>> safe

>>>> >> >>>>> mode

>>>> >> >>>>> several times. I get online for a short while then it restarts

>>>> >> >>>>> itself and I can only work offline. "Alan Edwards"

>>>> >> >>>>> <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote in message

>>>> >> >>>>> news:gpgc34lnd5qsobmhv6r8vtccrk8k61d1as@4ax.com...

>>>> >> >>>>>> I use avast! (free version)

>>>> >> >>>>>> http://www.avast.com/

>>>> >> >>>>>>

>>>> >> >>>>>> ...Alan

>>>> >> >>>>>> --

>>>> >> >>>>>> Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer

>>>> >> >>>>>> http://dts-l.com/index.htm

>>>> >> >>>>>>

>>>> >> >>>>>> On Thu, 22 May 2008 23:44:12 -0400, in

>>>> >> >>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "CdLSRN"

>>>> >> >>>>>> <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

>>>> >> >>>>>>

>>>> >> >>>>>>> Is there a antivirus that I can download that still supports

>>>> >> >>>>>>> Windows 98se for my Dell Dimension desktop?

>>>> >>

>>>> >

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

May 24, 2008

Re: need antivirus

I munged it so that bots won't pick it up. You have to change "_at_" to @

gryst @ grystmill.com

(Remove the spaces.)

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:48386f82$0$25021$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> This e-mail doesn't work. Ginny

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%238KLl4cvIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Ginny, if the download links don't work, email me at

>> gryst_at_grystmill.com.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:48385853$0$15199$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > If it has to go online to download the files, It won't work. Should I

>> > even

>> > try? Do

>> > you have these files? My computer has a cd/dvd rom only, Can I install

>> > them from your

>> > cd? If yes I will send you my address. I am in Yorktown Heights, New

>> > York.

>> > I am

>> > housebound/disabled and can not get out to the library. Thank you.

>> > Ginny

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:OQnDgqVvIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> But try Brian's methods, first. The program IE6SETUP.EXE needs to

>> >> download

>> >> most of the files, first, and you may or may not be able to do that in

>> >> your

>> >> situation.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> >>

>> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> news:e4zW7mVvIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> >> > Regardless of the message, just having those files isn't going to

>> >> > fix

>> >> > it.

>> >> > You need the installation files. You'll either have to go use a

>> >> > public

>> >> > computer, or get some friend or acquaintance with a computer to

>> >> > download a

>> >> > copy and burn it to CD, or find someone who can mail you a copy.

>> >> > (Where

>> >> > do

>> >> > you live?) Or, you can try this link. Maybe it will work.

>> >> > http://grystmill.com/shared/ie6sp1.zip

>> >> >

>> >> > The ZIP file is over 47 MB. If I have to email it, I will, but try

>> >> > that

>> >> > link and/or consider other options first.

>> >> >

>> >> > --

>> >> > Gary S. Terhune

>> >> > MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> > http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >

>> >> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> > news:48378901$0$11601$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> >>I went to add/remove programs, clicked on 'Microsoft Internet

>> >> >>Explorer

>> >> >>6SP1 and

>> >> >> Internet Tools'. It said "can not repair Internet Explorer, Please

>> >> >> run

>> >> >> setup again to

>> >> >> reinstall all components" ...under more info. it

>> >> >> said"FileMSXML.DLL"

>> >> >> is

>> >> >> missing File

>> >> >> MSXMLA.DLL IS missing, and File MSXMLR.DLL IS missing.

>> >> >> Can I get these files through an e-mail (since I can't get online)

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> if

>> >> >> I can

>> >> >> .......can you give me specific directions as to how and where to

>> >> >> install

>> >> >> them?

>> >> >> Thank you. Ginny

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:u8agVGUvIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> >>> You might try calling up your ISP and see if they will walk you

>> >> >>> through

>> >> >>> it,

>> >> >>> but the chances are slim with '98. Avast real time scanner has to

>> >> >>> be

>> >> >>> set

>> >> >>> up

>> >> >>> manually for Win98 - it is not automatic for IE or FF as it is

>> >> >>> when

>> >> >>> running

>> >> >>> W2K & XP. If you haven't already, check further on the Avast

>> >> >>> website,

>> >> >>> they

>> >> >>> used to have an animation on how to do it and it's probably still

>> >> >>> there.

>> >> >>> The

>> >> >>> last thing I can think of is to try the IE6 repair function in

>> >> >>> add-remove.

>> >> >>> You will lose any IE6 customizations, but on the bright side, IE6

>> >> >>> is

>> >> >>> so

>> >> >>> clunky that you can't lose much.

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> CdLSRN wrote:

>> >> >>> > I did not have my mail coming through the Avast Virus Scanner, I

>> >> >>> > had

>> >> >>> > continuous protection and Web protection. I trusted the virus

>> >> >>> > scanner

>> >> >>> > at Cablevision to take care of my mail. Therefore, as I stated

>> >> >>> > early

>> >> >>> > on, I can not get online via Internet Explorer. I can not open

>> >> >>> > and

>> >> >>> > get online with any other ie: Mozilla (which is on my desktop)

>> >> >>> > and

>> >> >>> > I

>> >> >>> > can not click on links.

>> >> >>> > However, for about five minutes today I was able to get online

>> >> >>> > before

>> >> >>> > it re-appeared , and I downloaded the Avast remover utility. I

>> >> >>> > used

>> >> >>> > it in safe mode but I am still in the same condition I was

>> >> >>> > before......I can send and receive e-mails but I can not get

>> >> >>> > online.

>> >> >>> > "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

>> >> >>> > news:OYrrUlRvIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> >>> >> Since you are posting here, I think you could reconsider that

>> >> >>> >> statement.

>> >> >>> >>

>> >> >>> >> CdLSRN wrote:

>> >> >>> >>> Since I can't get online, I can't get the utility.

>> >> >>> >>>

>> >> >>> >>> "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

>> >> >>> >>> news:uS%23EFtOvIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> >>> >>>> This may (or may not) help:

>> >> >>> >>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-uninstall-utility.html

>> >> >>> >>>> Now try reinstalling.

>> >> >>> >>>>

>> >> >>> >>>> I wouldn't give up on Avast, especially w/ Win98.

>> >> >>> >>>>

>> >> >>> >>>> CdLSRN wrote:

>> >> >>> >>>>> I am still struggling with Avast. It is in my Internet

>> >> >>> >>>>> Explorer

>> >> >>> >>>>> and

>> >> >>> >>>>> won't let me go online. I have installed and deleted it in

>> >> >>> >>>>> safe

>> >> >>> >>>>> mode

>> >> >>> >>>>> several times. I get online for a short while then it

>> >> >>> >>>>> restarts

>> >> >>> >>>>> itself and I can only work offline. "Alan Edwards"

>> >> >>> >>>>> <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote in message

>> >> >>> >>>>> news:gpgc34lnd5qsobmhv6r8vtccrk8k61d1as@4ax.com...

>> >> >>> >>>>>> I use avast! (free version)

>> >> >>> >>>>>> http://www.avast.com/

>> >> >>> >>>>>>

>> >> >>> >>>>>> ...Alan

>> >> >>> >>>>>> --

>> >> >>> >>>>>> Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer

>> >> >>> >>>>>> http://dts-l.com/index.htm

>> >> >>> >>>>>>

>> >> >>> >>>>>> On Thu, 22 May 2008 23:44:12 -0400, in

>> >> >>> >>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "CdLSRN"

>> >> >>> >>>>>> <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

>> >> >>> >>>>>>

>> >> >>> >>>>>>> Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

>> >> >>> >>>>>>> supports

>> >> >>> >>>>>>> Windows 98se for my Dell Dimension desktop?

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 24, 2008

Re: need antivirus

It didn't work anyway. Ginny

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

news:uuwQoVdvIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Thanks Gary, I forget about the wrap here/there, I should have dropped it down

> to it's own line.

>

> --

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uxskL7cvIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > Brian's command got wrapped. It needs to look EXACTLY like this, including

> > whether upper or loser case (parts of it, anyway.). There is only one space,

> > after RUNDLL32. What you should do is simply Copy/Paste the line into the Run

> > box.

> >

> > RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance

> >

> > --

> > Gary S. Terhune

> > MS-MVP Shell/User

> >

> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:48385d67$0$25063$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >>I did start, run, and typed "RUNDLLEWSETUPWBV.DLL" WITHOUT quotes and got a

> >>message

> >> could not find......dll or one of its components. etc. I put in the same

> >> thing with

> >> the ,IE6Maintenance" and got a message " can not fine". I put in the 1st one

> >> with a

> >> space between RUNDLL32 AND SETUP AND it did't even bother to give me any

> >> answer nor

> >> did it go anywhere.

> >>

> >> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

> >> news:O0hnGmVvIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>> See if this helps to repair IE:

> >>> Click Start>Run, type the following and click Enter, for IE6x: RUNDLL32

> >>> SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance

> >>> Choose the Repair option, and continue.

> >>> If the repair says it cannot complete, reinstall Internet Explorer over

> >>> itself.

> >>>

> >>> The three .dll files that are reported as missing should be in

> >>> C:\Windows\System, check to see if they are there.

> >>>

> >>> If you need to reinstall IE, in Explorer expand C:\Program Files.

> >>> Click once on Internet Explorer to show the files/folders in the right pane.

> >>> If ie6setup.exe is present, double click it to reinstall.

> >>>

> >>> --

> >>>

> >>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

> >>> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> >>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >>>

> >>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> >>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >>>

> >>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >>> news:48378901$0$11601$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >>> >I went to add/remove programs, clicked on 'Microsoft Internet Explorer 6SP1

> >>> >and

> >>> > Internet Tools'. It said "can not repair Internet Explorer, Please run

> >>> > setup

> >>> > again to

> >>> > reinstall all components" ...under more info. it said"FileMSXML.DLL" is

> >>> > missing File

> >>> > MSXMLA.DLL IS missing, and File MSXMLR.DLL IS missing.

> >>> > Can I get these files through an e-mail (since I can't get online) and if

> >>> > I

> >>> > can

> >>> > .......can you give me specific directions as to how and where to install

> >>> > them?

> >>> > Thank you. Ginny

> >>> >

> >>> > "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

> >>> > news:u8agVGUvIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>> >> You might try calling up your ISP and see if they will walk you through

> >>> >> it,

> >>> >> but the chances are slim with '98. Avast real time scanner has to be set

> >>> >> up

> >>> >> manually for Win98 - it is not automatic for IE or FF as it is when

> >>> >> running

> >>> >> W2K & XP. If you haven't already, check further on the Avast website,

> >>> >> they

> >>> >> used to have an animation on how to do it and it's probably still there.

> >>> >> The

> >>> >> last thing I can think of is to try the IE6 repair function in

> >>> >> add-remove.

> >>> >> You will lose any IE6 customizations, but on the bright side, IE6 is so

> >>> >> clunky that you can't lose much.

> >>> >>

> >>> >> CdLSRN wrote:

> >>> >> > I did not have my mail coming through the Avast Virus Scanner, I had

> >>> >> > continuous protection and Web protection. I trusted the virus scanner

> >>> >> > at Cablevision to take care of my mail. Therefore, as I stated early

> >>> >> > on, I can not get online via Internet Explorer. I can not open and

> >>> >> > get online with any other ie: Mozilla (which is on my desktop) and I

> >>> >> > can not click on links.

> >>> >> > However, for about five minutes today I was able to get online before

> >>> >> > it re-appeared , and I downloaded the Avast remover utility. I used

> >>> >> > it in safe mode but I am still in the same condition I was

> >>> >> > before......I can send and receive e-mails but I can not get online.

> >>> >> > "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

> >>> >> > news:OYrrUlRvIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>> >> >> Since you are posting here, I think you could reconsider that

> >>> >> >> statement.

> >>> >> >>

> >>> >> >> CdLSRN wrote:

> >>> >> >>> Since I can't get online, I can't get the utility.

> >>> >> >>>

> >>> >> >>> "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

> >>> >> >>> news:uS%23EFtOvIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>> >> >>>> This may (or may not) help:

> >>> >> >>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-uninstall-utility.html

> >>> >> >>>> Now try reinstalling.

> >>> >> >>>>

> >>> >> >>>> I wouldn't give up on Avast, especially w/ Win98.

> >>> >> >>>>

> >>> >> >>>> CdLSRN wrote:

> >>> >> >>>>> I am still struggling with Avast. It is in my Internet Explorer

> >>> >> >>>>> and

> >>> >> >>>>> won't let me go online. I have installed and deleted it in safe

> >>> >> >>>>> mode

> >>> >> >>>>> several times. I get online for a short while then it restarts

> >>> >> >>>>> itself and I can only work offline. "Alan Edwards"

> >>> >> >>>>> <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote in message

> >>> >> >>>>> news:gpgc34lnd5qsobmhv6r8vtccrk8k61d1as@4ax.com...

> >>> >> >>>>>> I use avast! (free version)

> >>> >> >>>>>> http://www.avast.com/

> >>> >> >>>>>>

> >>> >> >>>>>> ...Alan

> >>> >> >>>>>> --

> >>> >> >>>>>> Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer

> >>> >> >>>>>> http://dts-l.com/index.htm

> >>> >> >>>>>>

> >>> >> >>>>>> On Thu, 22 May 2008 23:44:12 -0400, in

> >>> >> >>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "CdLSRN"

> >>> >> >>>>>> <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

> >>> >> >>>>>>

> >>> >> >>>>>>> Is there a antivirus that I can download that still supports

> >>> >> >>>>>>> Windows 98se for my Dell Dimension desktop?

> >>> >>

> >>> >

> >>>

> >>

> >

>

May 27, 2008

SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to wrap it up in the

thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to there was a

thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But the REAL issue

is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it needs to have port 12080 open.

This is from Avast! Support:

> You should allow web shield avast! provider to access internet in your

firewall settings.

>

> You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall, then start avast

update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When firewall

asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the rule again. If

your firewall has option that allowed program changes often, set it too.

>

> For the correct operation the Web Shield process (ashWebSv.exe or

aswWebSv.exe)

> needs a permission to access the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

to act as a server and accept incoming

> connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port 12080.

There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running more formal

scans for malware, HJT, etc.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Is there a antivirus that I can download that still supports Windows 98se

> for my Dell

> Dimension desktop?

>

May 28, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the proxy setting

and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE; Internet Options>connections>Lan

Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the loopback

adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as the ADD

option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and assign it as Trusted.

The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

* I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE, but seems to be

a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a "Transparent Proxy"

server.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to wrap it up in

the

> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to there was a

> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But the REAL

issue

> is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it needs to have port 12080

open.

> This is from Avast! Support:

> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access internet in your

> firewall settings.

> >

> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall, then start

avast

> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When firewall

> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the rule again. If

> your firewall has option that allowed program changes often, set it too.

> >

> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process (ashWebSv.exe or

> aswWebSv.exe)

> > needs a permission to access the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

> to act as a server and accept incoming

> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port 12080.

>

> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running more formal

> scans for malware, HJT, etc.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still supports Windows

98se

> > for my Dell

> > Dimension desktop?

> >

>

May 28, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt with in

another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real question is whether to

use WebShield at all.

I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up" thread

going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started a new

thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new firewall, "Which

firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you could add something there?

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the proxy setting

> and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE; Internet

> Options>connections>Lan

> Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the loopback

> adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as the ADD

> option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and assign it as Trusted.

> The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

> * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE, but seems to

> be

> a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a "Transparent Proxy"

> server.

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to wrap it up in

> the

>> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to there was a

>> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But the REAL

> issue

>> is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it needs to have port 12080

> open.

>> This is from Avast! Support:

>> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access internet in your

>> firewall settings.

>> >

>> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall, then start

> avast

>> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When firewall

>> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the rule again. If

>> your firewall has option that allowed program changes often, set it too.

>> >

>> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process (ashWebSv.exe or

>> aswWebSv.exe)

>> > needs a permission to access the Internet (TCP port 80) and a

>> > permission

>> to act as a server and accept incoming

>> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port 12080.

>>

>> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running more formal

>> scans for malware, HJT, etc.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still supports Windows

> 98se

>> > for my Dell

>> > Dimension desktop?

>> >

>>

>

May 28, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm firewall.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt with in

> another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real question is whether

to

> use WebShield at all.

>

> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up" thread

> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started a new

> thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new firewall,

"Which

> firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you could add something there?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the proxy

setting

> > and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE; Internet

> > Options>connections>Lan

> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the loopback

> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as the ADD

> > option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and assign it as Trusted.

> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE, but seems

to

> > be

> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a "Transparent

Proxy"

> > server.

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to wrap it up

in

> > the

> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to there was a

> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But the REAL

> > issue

> >> is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it needs to have port 12080

> > open.

> >> This is from Avast! Support:

> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access internet in

your

> >> firewall settings.

> >> >

> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall, then start

> > avast

> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When firewall

> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the rule again.

If

> >> your firewall has option that allowed program changes often, set it

too.

> >> >

> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process (ashWebSv.exe or

> >> aswWebSv.exe)

> >> > needs a permission to access the Internet (TCP port 80) and a

> >> > permission

> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port 12080.

> >>

> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running more

formal

> >> scans for malware, HJT, etc.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>

> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still supports Windows

> > 98se

> >> > for my Dell

> >> > Dimension desktop?

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 28, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed, AFAIK. (Maybe

had it installed a long time ago.)

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm firewall.

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt with in

>> another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real question is whether

> to

>> use WebShield at all.

>>

>> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up" thread

>> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started a new

>> thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new firewall,

> "Which

>> firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you could add something there?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the proxy

> setting

>> > and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE; Internet

>> > Options>connections>Lan

>> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the loopback

>> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as the ADD

>> > option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and assign it as

>> > Trusted.

>> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

>> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE, but seems

> to

>> > be

>> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a "Transparent

> Proxy"

>> > server.

>> >

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to wrap it up

> in

>> > the

>> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to there was a

>> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But the REAL

>> > issue

>> >> is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it needs to have port 12080

>> > open.

>> >> This is from Avast! Support:

>> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access internet in

> your

>> >> firewall settings.

>> >> >

>> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall, then start

>> > avast

>> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When

>> >> firewall

>> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the rule again.

> If

>> >> your firewall has option that allowed program changes often, set it

> too.

>> >> >

>> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process (ashWebSv.exe or

>> >> aswWebSv.exe)

>> >> > needs a permission to access the Internet (TCP port 80) and a

>> >> > permission

>> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

>> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port 12080.

>> >>

>> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running more

> formal

>> >> scans for malware, HJT, etc.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> >>

>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still supports Windows

>> > 98se

>> >> > for my Dell

>> >> > Dimension desktop?

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 28, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add protection and

may be redundant. The logging on the standard shield exceeds the webshield.

The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application level FW

for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights or not.

Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these settings and ZA

set such that webshield has access rights only.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed, AFAIK.

(Maybe

> had it installed a long time ago.)

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

firewall.

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt with in

> >> another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real question is

whether

> > to

> >> use WebShield at all.

> >>

> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up" thread

> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started a new

> >> thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new firewall,

> > "Which

> >> firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you could add something there?

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>

> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the proxy

> > setting

> >> > and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE; Internet

> >> > Options>connections>Lan

> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the loopback

> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as the

ADD

> >> > option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and assign it as

> >> > Trusted.

> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE, but

seems

> > to

> >> > be

> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a "Transparent

> > Proxy"

> >> > server.

> >> >

> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to wrap it

up

> > in

> >> > the

> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to there was

a

> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But the

REAL

> >> > issue

> >> >> is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it needs to have port

12080

> >> > open.

> >> >> This is from Avast! Support:

> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access internet in

> > your

> >> >> firewall settings.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall, then

start

> >> > avast

> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When

> >> >> firewall

> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the rule

again.

> > If

> >> >> your firewall has option that allowed program changes often, set it

> > too.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process (ashWebSv.exe or

> >> >> aswWebSv.exe)

> >> >> > needs a permission to access the Internet (TCP port 80) and a

> >> >> > permission

> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port 12080.

> >> >>

> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running more

> > formal

> >> >> scans for malware, HJT, etc.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >> >>

> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still supports

Windows

> >> > 98se

> >> >> > for my Dell

> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 28, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable WebShield, Brian

A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it in Windows 98

(different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of these threads it's

in, but perhaps you could find those messages. Brian didn't contribute TOO

much to the threads, so it should be easy to find them.

All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install of 98,

didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't have any

other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things suggested in the

articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no problems. Never HAVE had to

disable the WebShield, that I can recall, and I've not only been using it

for at least a few years, but have installed it on numerous machines with

WebShield enabled (including several '9x machines) and had no problems.

Which just goes to show you that it ain't all that simple.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add protection and

> may be redundant. The logging on the standard shield exceeds the

> webshield.

> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application level

> FW

> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights or not.

> Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these settings and ZA

> set such that webshield has access rights only.

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed, AFAIK.

> (Maybe

>> had it installed a long time ago.)

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

>>

>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

> firewall.

>> >

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt with in

>> >> another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real question is

> whether

>> > to

>> >> use WebShield at all.

>> >>

>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up"

>> >> thread

>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started a new

>> >> thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new firewall,

>> > "Which

>> >> firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you could add something there?

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> >>

>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the proxy

>> > setting

>> >> > and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE; Internet

>> >> > Options>connections>Lan

>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

>> >> > loopback

>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as the

> ADD

>> >> > option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and assign it as

>> >> > Trusted.

>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE, but

> seems

>> > to

>> >> > be

>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a "Transparent

>> > Proxy"

>> >> > server.

>> >> >

>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to wrap it

> up

>> > in

>> >> > the

>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to there

>> >> >> was

> a

>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But the

> REAL

>> >> > issue

>> >> >> is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it needs to have port

> 12080

>> >> > open.

>> >> >> This is from Avast! Support:

>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access internet in

>> > your

>> >> >> firewall settings.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall, then

> start

>> >> > avast

>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When

>> >> >> firewall

>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the rule

> again.

>> > If

>> >> >> your firewall has option that allowed program changes often, set it

>> > too.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process (ashWebSv.exe or

>> >> >> aswWebSv.exe)

>> >> >> > needs a permission to access the Internet (TCP port 80) and a

>> >> >> > permission

>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port 12080.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running more

>> > formal

>> >> >> scans for malware, HJT, etc.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still supports

> Windows

>> >> > 98se

>> >> >> > for my Dell

>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable WebShield,

| Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it in

| Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of

| these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.

| Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be easy

| to find them.

|

| All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install of

| 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't

| have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things

| suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no

| problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can recall,

| and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have

| installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including

| several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show

| you that it ain't all that simple.

You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance

at...

http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

(Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,

which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

for download. )

So...

(a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

(b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you

visit? Also...

(d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

(e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

(f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

Performed Action

Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up

windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version of

avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,

since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98

machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

thinking the NET won't work!

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

| news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

|> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard shield

|> exceeds the webshield.

|> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application

|> level FW

|> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights or

|> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these

|> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.

|> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,

|>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

|>>

|>> --

|>> Gary S. Terhune

|>> MS-MVP Shell/User

|>> http://www.grystmill.com

|>>

|>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

|>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

|>> > firewall.

|>> >

|>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt

|>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real

|>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

|>> >>

|>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up"

|>> >> thread

|>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started

|>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new

|>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you

|>> >> could add something there?

|>> >>

|>> >> --

|>> >> Gary S. Terhune

|>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

|>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

|>> >>

|>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

|>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the

|>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE;

|>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

|>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

|>> >> > loopback

|>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as

|>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and

|>> >> > assign it as Trusted.

|>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

|>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,

|>> >> > but seems to be

|>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

|>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

|>> >> >

|>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to

|>> >> >> wrap it

|> up

|>> > in

|>> >> > the

|>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to

|>> >> >> there was

|> a

|>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But

|>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it

|>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:

|>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access

|>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

|>> >> >> >

|>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,

|>> >> >> > then

|> start

|>> >> > avast

|>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When

|>> >> >> firewall

|>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the

|>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed program

|>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

|>> >> >> >

|>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

|>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to access

|>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

|>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

|>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port

|>> >> >> > 12080.

|>> >> >>

|>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running

|>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

|>> >> >>

|>> >> >> --

|>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

|>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

|>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

|>> >> >>

|>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

|>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

|>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

|>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't know that.

Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do nothing so long

as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes Ginny

problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the Belkin

router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there and

do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable WebShield,

> | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it in

> | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of

> | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.

> | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be easy

> | to find them.

> |

> | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install of

> | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't

> | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things

> | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no

> | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can recall,

> | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have

> | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including

> | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show

> | you that it ain't all that simple.

>

> You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

>

> I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance

> at...

> http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

> (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,

> which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

> clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

> after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

> for download. )

>

> So...

>

> (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

> (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

>

> What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you

> visit? Also...

>

> © Click the Customise button.

> (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

> (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

> (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

> Performed Action

>

> Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up

> windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

>

> One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

>

> On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version of

> avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,

> since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98

> machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

> event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

> thinking the NET won't work!

>

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

> |

> | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

> |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard shield

> |> exceeds the webshield.

> |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application

> |> level FW

> |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights or

> |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these

> |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.

> |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,

> |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

> |>>

> |>> --

> |>> Gary S. Terhune

> |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> |>> http://www.grystmill.com

> |>>

> |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

> |>> > firewall.

> |>> >

> |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt

> |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real

> |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

> |>> >>

> |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up"

> |>> >> thread

> |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started

> |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new

> |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you

> |>> >> could add something there?

> |>> >>

> |>> >> --

> |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

> |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> |>> >>

> |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the

> |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE;

> |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

> |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

> |>> >> > loopback

> |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as

> |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and

> |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.

> |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

> |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,

> |>> >> > but seems to be

> |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

> |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

> |>> >> >

> |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to

> |>> >> >> wrap it

> |> up

> |>> > in

> |>> >> > the

> |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to

> |>> >> >> there was

> |> a

> |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But

> |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it

> |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:

> |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access

> |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

> |>> >> >> >

> |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,

> |>> >> >> > then

> |> start

> |>> >> > avast

> |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When

> |>> >> >> firewall

> |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the

> |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed program

> |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

> |>> >> >> >

> |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

> |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to access

> |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

> |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

> |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port

> |>> >> >> > 12080.

> |>> >> >>

> |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running

> |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

> |>> >> >>

> |>> >> >> --

> |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> |>> >> >>

> |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

> |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

> |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web button has disappear

in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other project).

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't know that.

> Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do nothing so long

> as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes Ginny

> problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the Belkin

> router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there and

> do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

>

> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable WebShield,

> > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it in

> > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of

> > | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.

> > | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be easy

> > | to find them.

> > |

> > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install of

> > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't

> > | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things

> > | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no

> > | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can recall,

> > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have

> > | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including

> > | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show

> > | you that it ain't all that simple.

> >

> > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

> >

> > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance

> > at...

> > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

> > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,

> > which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

> > clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

> > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

> > for download. )

> >

> > So...

> >

> > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

> > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

> >

> > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you

> > visit? Also...

> >

> > © Click the Customise button.

> > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

> > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

> > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

> > Performed Action

> >

> > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up

> > windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

> >

> > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

> >

> > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version of

> > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,

> > since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98

> > machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

> > event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

> > thinking the NET won't work!

> >

> > | --

> > | Gary S. Terhune

> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> > | http://www.grystmill.com

> > |

> > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

> > |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard shield

> > |> exceeds the webshield.

> > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application

> > |> level FW

> > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights or

> > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these

> > |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.

> > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,

> > |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

> > |>>

> > |>> --

> > |>> Gary S. Terhune

> > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > |>> http://www.grystmill.com

> > |>>

> > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

> > |>> > firewall.

> > |>> >

> > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt

> > |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real

> > |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

> > |>> >>

> > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up"

> > |>> >> thread

> > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started

> > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new

> > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you

> > |>> >> could add something there?

> > |>> >>

> > |>> >> --

> > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

> > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > |>> >>

> > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the

> > |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE;

> > |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

> > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

> > |>> >> > loopback

> > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as

> > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and

> > |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.

> > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

> > |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,

> > |>> >> > but seems to be

> > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

> > |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

> > |>> >> >

> > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to

> > |>> >> >> wrap it

> > |> up

> > |>> > in

> > |>> >> > the

> > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to

> > |>> >> >> there was

> > |> a

> > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But

> > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it

> > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:

> > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access

> > |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

> > |>> >> >> >

> > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,

> > |>> >> >> > then

> > |> start

> > |>> >> > avast

> > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When

> > |>> >> >> firewall

> > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the

> > |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed program

> > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

> > |>> >> >> >

> > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

> > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to access

> > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

> > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

> > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port

> > |>> >> >> > 12080.

> > |>> >> >>

> > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running

> > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

> > |>> >> >>

> > |>> >> >> --

> > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > |>> >> >>

> > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

> > |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

> > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

> >

> > --

> > Thanks or Good Luck,

> > There may be humor in this post, and,

> > Naturally, you will not sue,

> > Should things get worse after this,

> > PCR

> > pcrrcp@netzero.net

> >

>

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Maybe we did. You have to find it in Add/Remove Programs and Change

installed components.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483f5764$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web button has

> disappear

> in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other project).

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't know

>> that.

>> Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do nothing so

>> long

>> as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes Ginny

>> problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the Belkin

>> router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there

>> and

>> do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

>>

>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable WebShield,

>> > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it in

>> > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of

>> > | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.

>> > | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be easy

>> > | to find them.

>> > |

>> > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install of

>> > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't

>> > | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things

>> > | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no

>> > | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can recall,

>> > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have

>> > | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including

>> > | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show

>> > | you that it ain't all that simple.

>> >

>> > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

>> >

>> > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance

>> > at...

>> > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

>> > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,

>> > which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

>> > clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

>> > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

>> > for download. )

>> >

>> > So...

>> >

>> > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

>> > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

>> >

>> > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you

>> > visit? Also...

>> >

>> > © Click the Customise button.

>> > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

>> > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

>> > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

>> > Performed Action

>> >

>> > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up

>> > windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

>> >

>> > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

>> >

>> > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version of

>> > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,

>> > since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98

>> > machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

>> > event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

>> > thinking the NET won't work!

>> >

>> > | --

>> > | Gary S. Terhune

>> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > | http://www.grystmill.com

>> > |

>> > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

>> > |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard shield

>> > |> exceeds the webshield.

>> > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application

>> > |> level FW

>> > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights or

>> > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these

>> > |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.

>> > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,

>> > |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

>> > |>>

>> > |>> --

>> > |>> Gary S. Terhune

>> > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > |>> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > |>>

>> > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

>> > |>> > firewall.

>> > |>> >

>> > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt

>> > |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real

>> > |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

>> > |>> >>

>> > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up"

>> > |>> >> thread

>> > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started

>> > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new

>> > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you

>> > |>> >> could add something there?

>> > |>> >>

>> > |>> >> --

>> > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > |>> >>

>> > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the

>> > |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE;

>> > |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

>> > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

>> > |>> >> > loopback

>> > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as

>> > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and

>> > |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.

>> > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

>> > |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,

>> > |>> >> > but seems to be

>> > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

>> > |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

>> > |>> >> >

>> > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to

>> > |>> >> >> wrap it

>> > |> up

>> > |>> > in

>> > |>> >> > the

>> > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to

>> > |>> >> >> there was

>> > |> a

>> > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But

>> > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it

>> > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:

>> > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access

>> > |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

>> > |>> >> >> >

>> > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,

>> > |>> >> >> > then

>> > |> start

>> > |>> >> > avast

>> > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check).

>> > When

>> > |>> >> >> firewall

>> > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the

>> > |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed program

>> > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

>> > |>> >> >> >

>> > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

>> > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to access

>> > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

>> > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

>> > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port

>> > |>> >> >> > 12080.

>> > |>> >> >>

>> > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running

>> > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

>> > |>> >> >>

>> > |>> >> >> --

>> > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > |>> >> >>

>> > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

>> > |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

>> > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

>> >

>> > --

>> > Thanks or Good Luck,

>> > There may be humor in this post, and,

>> > Naturally, you will not sue,

>> > Should things get worse after this,

>> > PCR

>> > pcrrcp@netzero.net

>> >

>>

>

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

Can not get online. Will change proxy setting back where they were.

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483f5764$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web button has disappear

> in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other project).

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't know that.

> > Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do nothing so long

> > as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes Ginny

> > problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the Belkin

> > router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there and

> > do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

> >

> > --

> > Gary S. Terhune

> > MS-MVP Shell/User

> > > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

> >

> > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> > news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> > > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable WebShield,

> > > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it in

> > > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of

> > > | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.

> > > | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be easy

> > > | to find them.

> > > |

> > > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install of

> > > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't

> > > | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things

> > > | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no

> > > | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can recall,

> > > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have

> > > | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including

> > > | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show

> > > | you that it ain't all that simple.

> > >

> > > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

> > >

> > > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance

> > > at...

> > > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

> > > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,

> > > which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

> > > clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

> > > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

> > > for download. )

> > >

> > > So...

> > >

> > > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

> > > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

> > >

> > > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you

> > > visit? Also...

> > >

> > > © Click the Customise button.

> > > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

> > > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

> > > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

> > > Performed Action

> > >

> > > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up

> > > windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

> > >

> > > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

> > >

> > > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version of

> > > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,

> > > since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98

> > > machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

> > > event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

> > > thinking the NET won't work!

> > >

> > > | --

> > > | Gary S. Terhune

> > > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> > > | http://www.grystmill.com

> > > |

> > > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

> > > |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard shield

> > > |> exceeds the webshield.

> > > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application

> > > |> level FW

> > > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights or

> > > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these

> > > |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.

> > > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,

> > > |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

> > > |>>

> > > |>> --

> > > |>> Gary S. Terhune

> > > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > > |>> http://www.grystmill.com

> > > |>>

> > > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

> > > |>> > firewall.

> > > |>> >

> > > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt

> > > |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real

> > > |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

> > > |>> >>

> > > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up"

> > > |>> >> thread

> > > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started

> > > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new

> > > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you

> > > |>> >> could add something there?

> > > |>> >>

> > > |>> >> --

> > > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

> > > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > > |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > > |>> >>

> > > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > > |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the

> > > |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE;

> > > |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

> > > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

> > > |>> >> > loopback

> > > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as

> > > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and

> > > |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.

> > > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

> > > |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,

> > > |>> >> > but seems to be

> > > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

> > > |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

> > > |>> >> >

> > > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to

> > > |>> >> >> wrap it

> > > |> up

> > > |>> > in

> > > |>> >> > the

> > > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to

> > > |>> >> >> there was

> > > |> a

> > > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But

> > > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it

> > > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:

> > > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access

> > > |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

> > > |>> >> >> >

> > > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,

> > > |>> >> >> > then

> > > |> start

> > > |>> >> > avast

> > > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When

> > > |>> >> >> firewall

> > > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the

> > > |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed program

> > > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

> > > |>> >> >> >

> > > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

> > > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to access

> > > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

> > > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

> > > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port

> > > |>> >> >> > 12080.

> > > |>> >> >>

> > > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running

> > > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

> > > |>> >> >>

> > > |>> >> >> --

> > > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> > > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > > |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > > |>> >> >>

> > > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

> > > |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

> > > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

> > >

> > > --

> > > Thanks or Good Luck,

> > > There may be humor in this post, and,

> > > Naturally, you will not sue,

> > > Should things get worse after this,

> > > PCR

> > > pcrrcp@netzero.net

> > >

> >

>

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

O.K.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uC$qlRfwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Maybe we did. You have to find it in Add/Remove Programs and Change

> installed components.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483f5764$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web button has

> > disappear

> > in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other project).

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't know

> >> that.

> >> Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do nothing so

> >> long

> >> as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes Ginny

> >> problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the Belkin

> >> router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there

> >> and

> >> do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>

> >> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> >> news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >> > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable WebShield,

> >> > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it in

> >> > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of

> >> > | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.

> >> > | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be easy

> >> > | to find them.

> >> > |

> >> > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install of

> >> > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't

> >> > | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things

> >> > | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no

> >> > | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can recall,

> >> > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have

> >> > | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including

> >> > | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show

> >> > | you that it ain't all that simple.

> >> >

> >> > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

> >> > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

> >> >

> >> > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance

> >> > at...

> >> > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

> >> > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,

> >> > which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

> >> > clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

> >> > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

> >> > for download. )

> >> >

> >> > So...

> >> >

> >> > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

> >> > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

> >> >

> >> > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you

> >> > visit? Also...

> >> >

> >> > © Click the Customise button.

> >> > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

> >> > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

> >> > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

> >> > Performed Action

> >> >

> >> > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up

> >> > windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

> >> >

> >> > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

> >> >

> >> > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version of

> >> > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,

> >> > since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98

> >> > machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

> >> > event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

> >> > thinking the NET won't work!

> >> >

> >> > | --

> >> > | Gary S. Terhune

> >> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> > | http://www.grystmill.com

> >> > |

> >> > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

> >> > |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard shield

> >> > |> exceeds the webshield.

> >> > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application

> >> > |> level FW

> >> > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights or

> >> > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these

> >> > |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.

> >> > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,

> >> > |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

> >> > |>>

> >> > |>> --

> >> > |>> Gary S. Terhune

> >> > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> > |>> http://www.grystmill.com

> >> > |>>

> >> > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

> >> > |>> > firewall.

> >> > |>> >

> >> > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt

> >> > |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real

> >> > |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

> >> > |>> >>

> >> > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up"

> >> > |>> >> thread

> >> > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started

> >> > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new

> >> > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you

> >> > |>> >> could add something there?

> >> > |>> >>

> >> > |>> >> --

> >> > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> > |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >> > |>> >>

> >> > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> > |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the

> >> > |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE;

> >> > |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

> >> > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

> >> > |>> >> > loopback

> >> > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as

> >> > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and

> >> > |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.

> >> > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

> >> > |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,

> >> > |>> >> > but seems to be

> >> > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

> >> > |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

> >> > |>> >> >

> >> > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to

> >> > |>> >> >> wrap it

> >> > |> up

> >> > |>> > in

> >> > |>> >> > the

> >> > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to

> >> > |>> >> >> there was

> >> > |> a

> >> > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But

> >> > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it

> >> > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:

> >> > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access

> >> > |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

> >> > |>> >> >> >

> >> > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,

> >> > |>> >> >> > then

> >> > |> start

> >> > |>> >> > avast

> >> > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check).

> >> > When

> >> > |>> >> >> firewall

> >> > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the

> >> > |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed program

> >> > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

> >> > |>> >> >> >

> >> > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

> >> > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to access

> >> > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

> >> > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

> >> > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port

> >> > |>> >> >> > 12080.

> >> > |>> >> >>

> >> > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running

> >> > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

> >> > |>> >> >>

> >> > |>> >> >> --

> >> > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> > |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >> > |>> >> >>

> >> > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

> >> > |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

> >> > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,

> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,

> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,

> >> > Should things get worse after this,

> >> > PCR

> >> > pcrrcp@netzero.net

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

I installed the Web Shield, activated it. Went to IE and set the Proxy setting. Now

should I go to the eicar virus test or is there something I should know about that

first? Ginny

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483f5b13$0$15168$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> O.K.

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uC$qlRfwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Maybe we did. You have to find it in Add/Remove Programs and Change

> > installed components.

> >

> > --

> > Gary S. Terhune

> > MS-MVP Shell/User

> >

> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:483f5764$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > > Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web button has

> > > disappear

> > > in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other project).

> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't know

> > >> that.

> > >> Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do nothing so

> > >> long

> > >> as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes Ginny

> > >> problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the Belkin

> > >> router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there

> > >> and

> > >> do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

> > >>

> > >> --

> > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >>

> > >> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> > >> news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > >> > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> > >> > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable WebShield,

> > >> > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it in

> > >> > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of

> > >> > | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.

> > >> > | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be easy

> > >> > | to find them.

> > >> > |

> > >> > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install of

> > >> > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't

> > >> > | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things

> > >> > | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no

> > >> > | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can recall,

> > >> > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have

> > >> > | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including

> > >> > | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show

> > >> > | you that it ain't all that simple.

> > >> >

> > >> > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

> > >> > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

> > >> >

> > >> > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance

> > >> > at...

> > >> > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

> > >> > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,

> > >> > which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

> > >> > clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

> > >> > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

> > >> > for download. )

> > >> >

> > >> > So...

> > >> >

> > >> > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

> > >> > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

> > >> >

> > >> > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you

> > >> > visit? Also...

> > >> >

> > >> > © Click the Customise button.

> > >> > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

> > >> > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

> > >> > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

> > >> > Performed Action

> > >> >

> > >> > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up

> > >> > windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

> > >> >

> > >> > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

> > >> >

> > >> > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version of

> > >> > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,

> > >> > since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98

> > >> > machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

> > >> > event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

> > >> > thinking the NET won't work!

> > >> >

> > >> > | --

> > >> > | Gary S. Terhune

> > >> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> > | http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> > |

> > >> > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > >> > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

> > >> > |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard shield

> > >> > |> exceeds the webshield.

> > >> > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application

> > >> > |> level FW

> > >> > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights or

> > >> > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these

> > >> > |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.

> > >> > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > >> > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > >> > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,

> > >> > |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

> > >> > |>>

> > >> > |>> --

> > >> > |>> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> > |>> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> > |>>

> > >> > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > >> > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

> > >> > |>> > firewall.

> > >> > |>> >

> > >> > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > >> > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > >> > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt

> > >> > |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real

> > >> > |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

> > >> > |>> >>

> > >> > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up"

> > >> > |>> >> thread

> > >> > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started

> > >> > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new

> > >> > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you

> > >> > |>> >> could add something there?

> > >> > |>> >>

> > >> > |>> >> --

> > >> > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> > |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> > |>> >>

> > >> > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > >> > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > >> > |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the

> > >> > |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE;

> > >> > |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

> > >> > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

> > >> > |>> >> > loopback

> > >> > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address as

> > >> > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and

> > >> > |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.

> > >> > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

> > >> > |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,

> > >> > |>> >> > but seems to be

> > >> > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

> > >> > |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

> > >> > |>> >> >

> > >> > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > >> > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > >> > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to

> > >> > |>> >> >> wrap it

> > >> > |> up

> > >> > |>> > in

> > >> > |>> >> > the

> > >> > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to

> > >> > |>> >> >> there was

> > >> > |> a

> > >> > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But

> > >> > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it

> > >> > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:

> > >> > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access

> > >> > |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

> > >> > |>> >> >> >

> > >> > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,

> > >> > |>> >> >> > then

> > >> > |> start

> > >> > |>> >> > avast

> > >> > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check).

> > >> > When

> > >> > |>> >> >> firewall

> > >> > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the

> > >> > |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed program

> > >> > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

> > >> > |>> >> >> >

> > >> > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

> > >> > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to access

> > >> > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

> > >> > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

> > >> > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port

> > >> > |>> >> >> > 12080.

> > >> > |>> >> >>

> > >> > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running

> > >> > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

> > >> > |>> >> >>

> > >> > |>> >> >> --

> > >> > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> > |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> > |>> >> >>

> > >> > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

> > >> > |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

> > >> > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

> > >> >

> > >> > --

> > >> > Thanks or Good Luck,

> > >> > There may be humor in this post, and,

> > >> > Naturally, you will not sue,

> > >> > Should things get worse after this,

> > >> > PCR

> > >> > pcrrcp@netzero.net

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> >

>

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

That Belkin firewall needs to be in on the game. Plus, we're not sure what

other kinds of remains of other apps are left over on your machine that

might be getting in the way. Or rather, we know that there's the probability

of many such things. Pretty much as many as we can think of, <s>.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483f59cb$0$15183$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Can not get online. Will change proxy setting back where they were.

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483f5764$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web button has

>> disappear

>> in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other project).

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't know

>> > that.

>> > Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do nothing so

>> > long

>> > as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes Ginny

>> > problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the Belkin

>> > router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit

>> > there and

>> > do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

>> >

>> > --

>> > Gary S. Terhune

>> > MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > http://www.grystmill.com

>> >

>> > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> > news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> > > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable

>> > > WebShield,

>> > > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it

>> > > in

>> > > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of

>> > > | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.

>> > > | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be

>> > > easy

>> > > | to find them.

>> > > |

>> > > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install

>> > > of

>> > > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't

>> > > | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things

>> > > | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no

>> > > | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can

>> > > recall,

>> > > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have

>> > > | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including

>> > > | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show

>> > > | you that it ain't all that simple.

>> > >

>> > > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

>> > > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

>> > >

>> > > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance

>> > > at...

>> > > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

>> > > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,

>> > > which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

>> > > clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

>> > > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

>> > > for download. )

>> > >

>> > > So...

>> > >

>> > > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

>> > > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

>> > >

>> > > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you

>> > > visit? Also...

>> > >

>> > > © Click the Customise button.

>> > > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

>> > > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

>> > > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

>> > > Performed Action

>> > >

>> > > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up

>> > > windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

>> > >

>> > > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

>> > >

>> > > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version

>> > > of

>> > > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,

>> > > since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98

>> > > machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

>> > > event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

>> > > thinking the NET won't work!

>> > >

>> > > | --

>> > > | Gary S. Terhune

>> > > | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > > | http://www.grystmill.com

>> > > |

>> > > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> > > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

>> > > |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard

>> > > shield

>> > > |> exceeds the webshield.

>> > > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application

>> > > |> level FW

>> > > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights

>> > > or

>> > > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these

>> > > |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.

>> > > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,

>> > > |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

>> > > |>>

>> > > |>> --

>> > > |>> Gary S. Terhune

>> > > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > > |>> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > > |>>

>> > > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> > > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

>> > > |>> > firewall.

>> > > |>> >

>> > > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> > > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt

>> > > |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real

>> > > |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

>> > > |>> >>

>> > > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a

>> > > "wrap-up"

>> > > |>> >> thread

>> > > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just

>> > > started

>> > > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a

>> > > new

>> > > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you

>> > > |>> >> could add something there?

>> > > |>> >>

>> > > |>> >> --

>> > > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> > > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > > |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > > |>> >>

>> > > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> > > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > > |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the

>> > > |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE;

>> > > |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

>> > > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

>> > > |>> >> > loopback

>> > > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address

>> > > as

>> > > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and

>> > > |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.

>> > > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

>> > > |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,

>> > > |>> >> > but seems to be

>> > > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

>> > > |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

>> > > |>> >> >

>> > > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> > > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to

>> > > |>> >> >> wrap it

>> > > |> up

>> > > |>> > in

>> > > |>> >> > the

>> > > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to

>> > > |>> >> >> there was

>> > > |> a

>> > > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it.

>> > > But

>> > > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function,

>> > > it

>> > > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:

>> > > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access

>> > > |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

>> > > |>> >> >> >

>> > > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,

>> > > |>> >> >> > then

>> > > |> start

>> > > |>> >> > avast

>> > > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check).

>> > > When

>> > > |>> >> >> firewall

>> > > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the

>> > > |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed

>> > > program

>> > > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

>> > > |>> >> >> >

>> > > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

>> > > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to

>> > > access

>> > > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

>> > > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

>> > > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP

>> > > port

>> > > |>> >> >> > 12080.

>> > > |>> >> >>

>> > > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be

>> > > running

>> > > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

>> > > |>> >> >>

>> > > |>> >> >> --

>> > > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> > > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > > |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > > |>> >> >>

>> > > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

>> > > |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

>> > > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

>> > >

>> > > --

>> > > Thanks or Good Luck,

>> > > There may be humor in this post, and,

>> > > Naturally, you will not sue,

>> > > Should things get worse after this,

>> > > PCR

>> > > pcrrcp@netzero.net

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

I have it installed and have the proxy settings set. Only had a problem with one

site, in that it had a lot of x's instead of pictures but

when I right clicked and said show picture (which is a pita) the picture came up!

Better than before we made all these changes. EBay is the place I would have expected

all the x's but it's fine. But I think what you are saying is don't try the test.

I remember there is a place on my Belkin setup site to put in proxy settings. Let me

know if I should do that. For now unless I have problems.....I will leave the web

shield on. Ginny

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%238YN3mfwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> That Belkin firewall needs to be in on the game. Plus, we're not sure what

> other kinds of remains of other apps are left over on your machine that

> might be getting in the way. Or rather, we know that there's the probability

> of many such things. Pretty much as many as we can think of, <s>.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483f59cb$0$15183$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > Can not get online. Will change proxy setting back where they were.

> >

> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:483f5764$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web button has

> >> disappear

> >> in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other project).

> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> > OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't know

> >> > that.

> >> > Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do nothing so

> >> > long

> >> > as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes Ginny

> >> > problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the Belkin

> >> > router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit

> >> > there and

> >> > do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > Gary S. Terhune

> >> > MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> > http://www.grystmill.com

> >> >

> >> > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> >> > news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> > > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >> > > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable

> >> > > WebShield,

> >> > > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it

> >> > > in

> >> > > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of

> >> > > | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.

> >> > > | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be

> >> > > easy

> >> > > | to find them.

> >> > > |

> >> > > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install

> >> > > of

> >> > > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't

> >> > > | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things

> >> > > | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no

> >> > > | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can

> >> > > recall,

> >> > > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have

> >> > > | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including

> >> > > | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show

> >> > > | you that it ain't all that simple.

> >> > >

> >> > > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

> >> > > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

> >> > >

> >> > > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance

> >> > > at...

> >> > > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

> >> > > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,

> >> > > which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

> >> > > clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

> >> > > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

> >> > > for download. )

> >> > >

> >> > > So...

> >> > >

> >> > > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

> >> > > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

> >> > >

> >> > > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you

> >> > > visit? Also...

> >> > >

> >> > > © Click the Customise button.

> >> > > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

> >> > > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

> >> > > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

> >> > > Performed Action

> >> > >

> >> > > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up

> >> > > windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

> >> > >

> >> > > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

> >> > >

> >> > > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version

> >> > > of

> >> > > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,

> >> > > since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98

> >> > > machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

> >> > > event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

> >> > > thinking the NET won't work!

> >> > >

> >> > > | --

> >> > > | Gary S. Terhune

> >> > > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> > > | http://www.grystmill.com

> >> > > |

> >> > > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> > > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> > > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

> >> > > |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard

> >> > > shield

> >> > > |> exceeds the webshield.

> >> > > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application

> >> > > |> level FW

> >> > > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights

> >> > > or

> >> > > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these

> >> > > |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.

> >> > > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> > > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> > > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,

> >> > > |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

> >> > > |>>

> >> > > |>> --

> >> > > |>> Gary S. Terhune

> >> > > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> > > |>> http://www.grystmill.com

> >> > > |>>

> >> > > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> > > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> > > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

> >> > > |>> > firewall.

> >> > > |>> >

> >> > > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> > > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> > > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt

> >> > > |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real

> >> > > |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

> >> > > |>> >>

> >> > > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a

> >> > > "wrap-up"

> >> > > |>> >> thread

> >> > > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just

> >> > > started

> >> > > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a

> >> > > new

> >> > > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you

> >> > > |>> >> could add something there?

> >> > > |>> >>

> >> > > |>> >> --

> >> > > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> > > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> > > |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >> > > |>> >>

> >> > > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> > > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> > > |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the

> >> > > |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE;

> >> > > |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

> >> > > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

> >> > > |>> >> > loopback

> >> > > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address

> >> > > as

> >> > > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and

> >> > > |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.

> >> > > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

> >> > > |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,

> >> > > |>> >> > but seems to be

> >> > > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

> >> > > |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

> >> > > |>> >> >

> >> > > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> > > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> > > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to

> >> > > |>> >> >> wrap it

> >> > > |> up

> >> > > |>> > in

> >> > > |>> >> > the

> >> > > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to

> >> > > |>> >> >> there was

> >> > > |> a

> >> > > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it.

> >> > > But

> >> > > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function,

> >> > > it

> >> > > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:

> >> > > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access

> >> > > |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

> >> > > |>> >> >> >

> >> > > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,

> >> > > |>> >> >> > then

> >> > > |> start

> >> > > |>> >> > avast

> >> > > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check).

> >> > > When

> >> > > |>> >> >> firewall

> >> > > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the

> >> > > |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed

> >> > > program

> >> > > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

> >> > > |>> >> >> >

> >> > > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

> >> > > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to

> >> > > access

> >> > > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

> >> > > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

> >> > > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP

> >> > > port

> >> > > |>> >> >> > 12080.

> >> > > |>> >> >>

> >> > > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be

> >> > > running

> >> > > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

> >> > > |>> >> >>

> >> > > |>> >> >> --

> >> > > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> > > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> > > |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >> > > |>> >> >>

> >> > > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> > > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> > > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

> >> > > |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

> >> > > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

> >> > >

> >> > > --

> >> > > Thanks or Good Luck,

> >> > > There may be humor in this post, and,

> >> > > Naturally, you will not sue,

> >> > > Should things get worse after this,

> >> > > PCR

> >> > > pcrrcp@netzero.net

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

I got a fatal exception and crashed while online. I will take that part out and the

Proxy. Ginny

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483f66c3$0$15163$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> I have it installed and have the proxy settings set. Only had a problem with one

> site, in that it had a lot of x's instead of pictures but

> when I right clicked and said show picture (which is a pita) the picture came up!

> Better than before we made all these changes. EBay is the place I would have

expected

> all the x's but it's fine. But I think what you are saying is don't try the test.

>

> I remember there is a place on my Belkin setup site to put in proxy settings. Let

me

> know if I should do that. For now unless I have problems.....I will leave the web

> shield on. Ginny

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%238YN3mfwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > That Belkin firewall needs to be in on the game. Plus, we're not sure what

> > other kinds of remains of other apps are left over on your machine that

> > might be getting in the way. Or rather, we know that there's the probability

> > of many such things. Pretty much as many as we can think of, <s>.

> >

> > --

> > Gary S. Terhune

> > MS-MVP Shell/User

> >

> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:483f59cb$0$15183$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > > Can not get online. Will change proxy setting back where they were.

> > >

> > > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > news:483f5764$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web button has

> > >> disappear

> > >> in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other project).

> > >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > >> news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> > OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't know

> > >> > that.

> > >> > Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do nothing so

> > >> > long

> > >> > as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes Ginny

> > >> > problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the Belkin

> > >> > router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit

> > >> > there and

> > >> > do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

> > >> >

> > >> > --

> > >> > Gary S. Terhune

> > >> > MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> > http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> >

> > >> > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> > >> > news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > >> > > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> > >> > > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable

> > >> > > WebShield,

> > >> > > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it

> > >> > > in

> > >> > > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of

> > >> > > | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.

> > >> > > | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be

> > >> > > easy

> > >> > > | to find them.

> > >> > > |

> > >> > > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install

> > >> > > of

> > >> > > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't

> > >> > > | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things

> > >> > > | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no

> > >> > > | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can

> > >> > > recall,

> > >> > > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have

> > >> > > | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including

> > >> > > | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show

> > >> > > | you that it ain't all that simple.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

> > >> > > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance

> > >> > > at...

> > >> > > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

> > >> > > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,

> > >> > > which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

> > >> > > clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

> > >> > > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

> > >> > > for download. )

> > >> > >

> > >> > > So...

> > >> > >

> > >> > > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

> > >> > > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you

> > >> > > visit? Also...

> > >> > >

> > >> > > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

> > >> > > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

> > >> > > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

> > >> > > Performed Action

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up

> > >> > > windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

> > >> > >

> > >> > > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

> > >> > >

> > >> > > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version

> > >> > > of

> > >> > > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,

> > >> > > since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98

> > >> > > machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

> > >> > > event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

> > >> > > thinking the NET won't work!

> > >> > >

> > >> > > | --

> > >> > > | Gary S. Terhune

> > >> > > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> > > | http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> > > |

> > >> > > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > >> > > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> > > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

> > >> > > |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard

> > >> > > shield

> > >> > > |> exceeds the webshield.

> > >> > > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application

> > >> > > |> level FW

> > >> > > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights

> > >> > > or

> > >> > > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these

> > >> > > |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.

> > >> > > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > >> > > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > >> > > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,

> > >> > > |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

> > >> > > |>>

> > >> > > |>> --

> > >> > > |>> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> > > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> > > |>> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> > > |>>

> > >> > > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > >> > > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> > > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

> > >> > > |>> > firewall.

> > >> > > |>> >

> > >> > > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > >> > > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > >> > > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt

> > >> > > |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real

> > >> > > |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

> > >> > > |>> >>

> > >> > > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a

> > >> > > "wrap-up"

> > >> > > |>> >> thread

> > >> > > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just

> > >> > > started

> > >> > > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a

> > >> > > new

> > >> > > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you

> > >> > > |>> >> could add something there?

> > >> > > |>> >>

> > >> > > |>> >> --

> > >> > > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> > > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> > > |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> > > |>> >>

> > >> > > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > >> > > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > >> > > |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the

> > >> > > |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE;

> > >> > > |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

> > >> > > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

> > >> > > |>> >> > loopback

> > >> > > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address

> > >> > > as

> > >> > > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and

> > >> > > |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.

> > >> > > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

> > >> > > |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,

> > >> > > |>> >> > but seems to be

> > >> > > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

> > >> > > |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

> > >> > > |>> >> >

> > >> > > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > >> > > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > >> > > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to

> > >> > > |>> >> >> wrap it

> > >> > > |> up

> > >> > > |>> > in

> > >> > > |>> >> > the

> > >> > > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to

> > >> > > |>> >> >> there was

> > >> > > |> a

> > >> > > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it.

> > >> > > But

> > >> > > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function,

> > >> > > it

> > >> > > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

> > >> > > |>> >> >> >

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > then

> > >> > > |> start

> > >> > > |>> >> > avast

> > >> > > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check).

> > >> > > When

> > >> > > |>> >> >> firewall

> > >> > > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the

> > >> > > |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed

> > >> > > program

> > >> > > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

> > >> > > |>> >> >> >

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to

> > >> > > access

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

> > >> > > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP

> > >> > > port

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > 12080.

> > >> > > |>> >> >>

> > >> > > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be

> > >> > > running

> > >> > > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

> > >> > > |>> >> >>

> > >> > > |>> >> >> --

> > >> > > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> > > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> > > |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> > > |>> >> >>

> > >> > > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> > > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

> > >> > > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

> > >> > >

> > >> > > --

> > >> > > Thanks or Good Luck,

> > >> > > There may be humor in this post, and,

> > >> > > Naturally, you will not sue,

> > >> > > Should things get worse after this,

> > >> > > PCR

> > >> > > pcrrcp@netzero.net

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> >

>

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

I would.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483f76ef$0$25031$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>I got a fatal exception and crashed while online. I will take that part out

>and the

> Proxy. Ginny

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483f66c3$0$15163$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> I have it installed and have the proxy settings set. Only had a problem

>> with one

>> site, in that it had a lot of x's instead of pictures but

>> when I right clicked and said show picture (which is a pita) the picture

>> came up!

>> Better than before we made all these changes. EBay is the place I would

>> have

> expected

>> all the x's but it's fine. But I think what you are saying is don't try

>> the test.

>>

>> I remember there is a place on my Belkin setup site to put in proxy

>> settings. Let

> me

>> know if I should do that. For now unless I have problems.....I will leave

>> the web

>> shield on. Ginny

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:%238YN3mfwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > That Belkin firewall needs to be in on the game. Plus, we're not sure

>> > what

>> > other kinds of remains of other apps are left over on your machine that

>> > might be getting in the way. Or rather, we know that there's the

>> > probability

>> > of many such things. Pretty much as many as we can think of, <s>.

>> >

>> > --

>> > Gary S. Terhune

>> > MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > http://www.grystmill.com

>> >

>> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > news:483f59cb$0$15183$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > > Can not get online. Will change proxy setting back where they were.

>> > >

>> > > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > > news:483f5764$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > >> Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web

>> > >> button has

>> > >> disappear

>> > >> in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other project).

>> > >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > >> news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > >> > OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't

>> > >> > know

>> > >> > that.

>> > >> > Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do

>> > >> > nothing so

>> > >> > long

>> > >> > as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes

>> > >> > Ginny

>> > >> > problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the

>> > >> > Belkin

>> > >> > router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit

>> > >> > there and

>> > >> > do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

>> > >> >

>> > >> > --

>> > >> > Gary S. Terhune

>> > >> > MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > >> > http://www.grystmill.com

>> > >> >

>> > >> > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> > >> > news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > >> > > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> > >> > > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable

>> > >> > > WebShield,

>> > >> > > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do

>> > >> > > it

>> > >> > > in

>> > >> > > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one

>> > >> > > of

>> > >> > > | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those

>> > >> > > messages.

>> > >> > > | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should

>> > >> > > be

>> > >> > > easy

>> > >> > > | to find them.

>> > >> > > |

>> > >> > > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new

>> > >> > > install

>> > >> > > of

>> > >> > > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router

>> > >> > > (don't

>> > >> > > | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things

>> > >> > > | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no

>> > >> > > | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can

>> > >> > > recall,

>> > >> > > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but

>> > >> > > have

>> > >> > > | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled

>> > >> > > (including

>> > >> > > | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to

>> > >> > > show

>> > >> > > | you that it ain't all that simple.

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

>> > >> > > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s

>> > >> > > performance

>> > >> > > at...

>> > >> > > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

>> > >> > > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee

>> > >> > > was,

>> > >> > > which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

>> > >> > > clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

>> > >> > > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

>> > >> > > for download. )

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > So...

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

>> > >> > > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site

>> > >> > > you

>> > >> > > visit? Also...

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

>> > >> > > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

>> > >> > > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

>> > >> > > Performed Action

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in

>> > >> > > pop-up

>> > >> > > windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier

>> > >> > > sub-version

>> > >> > > of

>> > >> > > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes

>> > >> > > sense,

>> > >> > > since it was manually implemented in the first place on this

>> > >> > > Win98

>> > >> > > machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess),

>> > >> > > in the

>> > >> > > event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

>> > >> > > thinking the NET won't work!

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > | --

>> > >> > > | Gary S. Terhune

>> > >> > > | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > >> > > | http://www.grystmill.com

>> > >> > > |

>> > >> > > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> > >> > > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > >> > > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

>> > >> > > |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard

>> > >> > > shield

>> > >> > > |> exceeds the webshield.

>> > >> > > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or

>> > >> > > application

>> > >> > > |> level FW

>> > >> > > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server

>> > >> > > rights

>> > >> > > or

>> > >> > > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with

>> > >> > > these

>> > >> > > |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights

>> > >> > > only.

>> > >> > > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > >> > > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > >> > > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA

>> > >> > > installed,

>> > >> > > |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

>> > >> > > |>>

>> > >> > > |>> --

>> > >> > > |>> Gary S. Terhune

>> > >> > > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > >> > > |>> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > >> > > |>>

>> > >> > > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> > >> > > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > >> > > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant

>> > >> > > ZoneAlarm

>> > >> > > |>> > firewall.

>> > >> > > |>> >

>> > >> > > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > >> > > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> > >> > > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been

>> > >> > > dealt

>> > >> > > |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The

>> > >> > > real

>> > >> > > |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

>> > >> > > |>> >>

>> > >> > > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a

>> > >> > > "wrap-up"

>> > >> > > |>> >> thread

>> > >> > > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just

>> > >> > > started

>> > >> > > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and

>> > >> > > using a

>> > >> > > new

>> > >> > > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps

>> > >> > > you

>> > >> > > |>> >> could add something there?

>> > >> > > |>> >>

>> > >> > > |>> >> --

>> > >> > > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> > >> > > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > >> > > |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > >> > > |>> >>

>> > >> > > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> > >> > > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > >> > > |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check

>> > >> > > the

>> > >> > > |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For

>> > >> > > MSIE;

>> > >> > > |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

>> > >> > > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to

>> > >> > > put the

>> > >> > > |>> >> > loopback

>> > >> > > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP

>> > >> > > address

>> > >> > > as

>> > >> > > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1

>> > >> > > and

>> > >> > > |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.

>> > >> > > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

>> > >> > > |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as

>> > >> > > MSIE,

>> > >> > > |>> >> > but seems to be

>> > >> > > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

>> > >> > > |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

>> > >> > > |>> >> >

>> > >> > > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > >> > > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll

>> > >> > > try to

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> wrap it

>> > >> > > |> up

>> > >> > > |>> > in

>> > >> > > |>> >> > the

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils

>> > >> > > down to

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> there was

>> > >> > > |> a

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of

>> > >> > > it.

>> > >> > > But

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to

>> > >> > > function,

>> > >> > > it

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast!

>> > >> > > Support:

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to

>> > >> > > access

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> >

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your

>> > >> > > firewall,

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > then

>> > >> > > |> start

>> > >> > > |>> >> > avast

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update

>> > >> > > check).

>> > >> > > When

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> firewall

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create

>> > >> > > the

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed

>> > >> > > program

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> >

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to

>> > >> > > access

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on

>> > >> > > TCP

>> > >> > > port

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > 12080.

>> > >> > > |>> >> >>

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be

>> > >> > > running

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

>> > >> > > |>> >> >>

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> --

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > >> > > |>> >> >>

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

>> > >> > > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > --

>> > >> > > Thanks or Good Luck,

>> > >> > > There may be humor in this post, and,

>> > >> > > Naturally, you will not sue,

>> > >> > > Should things get worse after this,

>> > >> > > PCR

>> > >> > > pcrrcp@netzero.net

>> > >> > >

>> > >> >

>> > >>

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't

| know that.

That appears to be so. Athough it appears to involve sites only -- the

stuff that begins "http:" & probably "https:" & possibly others -- there

could be multiples involved when clicking a single URL. I can see 4

http:'s flash by in pop-ups when I click that avast! URL I posted

earlier-- & the Scanned Count increased from 17 to 22!

TIFs STILL were scanned (seen in pop-ups) as they entered, even with Web

Shield paused. Scanned Count did not increased for them.

| Well, IMO, that ain't worth it.

Well, it DOES seem to improve virus detection at that Eicar site, as I

said. Checking again (& this is a bit different from first

remembered)...

With Web Shield PAUSED... none of the 8 clicked at Eicar sound an alarm.

The download box is offered instead, & the download is allowed. The

downloaded file has to be R-Clkd & scanned or clicked to run or open for

avast! to detect a virus.

With Web Shield RESUMED... the all 4 HTTP viruses get detected as soon

as they are clicked at the site. The download box is not offererd. All 4

HTTPS viruses behaved as with WS paused.

Now, I see (Web Shield on or off), the HTTPS eicar.com.txt file will

open when clicked. Even downloaded, it also will open when clicked. For

a virus to be detected-- it must be R-Clkd & explicitly scanned! SO...

avast! isn't perfect! (The HTTP text file will get detected when clicked

at the site-- usually! If it stops detecting that one, clear TIFs of all

things Eicar. Sheesh.)

For all of that, it didn't seem to matter whether On-Access Scan was set

to Normal or to High.

| It can just sit there and

| do nothing so long as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is

| that it causes Ginny problems, even with no firewall installed on

| Windows (just the Belkin router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now

| that it WILL just sit there and do nothing. I can't get her to test

| it, <g>.

I see she's done a bit of testing but had a crash. I'll try to figure

it, if I can.

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

|

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable

|> | WebShield, Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain

|> | how to do it in Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not

|> | sure WHICH one of these threads it's in, but perhaps you could

|> | find those messages. Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the

|> | threads, so it should be easy to find them.

|> |

|> | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install

|> | of 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router

|> | (don't have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the

|> | things suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing

|> | no problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can

|> | recall, and I've not only been using it for at least a few years,

|> | but have installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled

|> | (including several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just

|> | goes to show you that it ain't all that simple.

|>

|> You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

|> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

|>

|> I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance

|> at...

|> http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

|> (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,

|> which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when

|> clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened

|> after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked

|> for download. )

|>

|> So...

|>

|> (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

|> (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

|>

|> What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you

|> visit? Also...

|>

|> (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

|> (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

|> (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

|> Performed Action

|>

|> Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up

|> windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?

|>

|> One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

|>

|> On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version

|> of avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes

|> sense, since it was manually implemented in the first place on this

|> Win98 machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess),

|> in the event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone,

|> I'm thinking the NET won't work!

|>

|> | --

|> | Gary S. Terhune

|> | MS-MVP Shell/User

|> | http://www.grystmill.com

|> |

|> | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

|> | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add

|> |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard

|> |> shield exceeds the webshield.

|> |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application

|> |> level FW

|> |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights

|> |> or not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these

|> |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.

|> |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|> |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,

|> |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)

|> |>>

|> |>> --

|> |>> Gary S. Terhune

|> |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

|> |>> http://www.grystmill.com

|> |>>

|> |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

|> |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm

|> |>> > firewall.

|> |>> >

|> |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt

|> |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real

|> |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a

|> |>> >> "wrap-up" thread

|> |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just

|> |>> >> started a new thread with a request for help in choosing and

|> |>> >> using a new firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE".

|> |>> >> Perhaps you could add something there?

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> --

|> |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

|> |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

|> |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

|> |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|> |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the

|> |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE;

|> |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan

|> |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the

|> |>> >> > loopback

|> |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use IP address

|> |>> >> > as the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1

|> |>> >> > and assign it as Trusted.

|> |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.

|> |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,

|> |>> >> > but seems to be

|> |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a

|> |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.

|> |>> >> >

|> |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to

|> |>> >> >> wrap it

|> |> up

|> |>> > in

|> |>> >> > the

|> |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to

|> |>> >> >> there was

|> |> a

|> |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it.

|> |>> >> >> But the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to

|> |>> >> >> function, it needs to have port 12080 open. This is from

|> |>> >> >> Avast! Support:

|> |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access

|> |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.

|> |>> >> >> >

|> |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,

|> |>> >> >> > then

|> |> start

|> |>> >> > avast

|> |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check).

|> |>> >> >> When firewall

|> |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the

|> |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed

|> |>> >> >> program changes often, set it too.

|> |>> >> >> >

|> |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

|> |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to

|> |>> >> >> > access the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

|> |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

|> |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP

|> |>> >> >> > port 12080.

|> |>> >> >>

|> |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be

|> |>> >> >> running more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

|> |>> >> >>

|> |>> >> >> --

|> |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

|> |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

|> |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

|> |>> >> >>

|> |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

|> |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still

|> |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell

|> |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

May 30, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

CdLSRN wrote:

| I got a fatal exception and crashed while online. I will take that

| part out and the Proxy. Ginny

I wouldn't necessarily give up on the avast! proxy yet.

(a) Was it working until you set something in Belkin?

(b) Can you remember anything more about the fatal exception,

like did it mention any programs?

To get a bit more diagnostic info about such crashes...

"START button, Run, DRWATSON";

now, D-Clk it's button in the Tray.

What diagnosis is on the first tab? Copy/paste it's contents,

using the menu. Close DrWatson, but leave it in the Tray. It sits

waiting for a crash, then traps it, putting info into the Diagnosis tab.

(a) "START button, Find, F/F, DrWatson.exe".

(Should be in "C:\Windows".)

(b) R-Clk it, point to "Send to" & click "Desktop (Create shortcut)".

(d) Open Explorer to "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp"

(e) R-Clk in the R-Pane, & select "Paste".

Now, it will always boot to the Tray, waiting for a crash or a D-Clk.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=275481

How to troubleshoot program faults with DrWatson

| "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| news:483f66c3$0$15163$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> I have it installed and have the proxy settings set. Only had a

|> problem with one site, in that it had a lot of x's instead of

|> pictures but

|> when I right clicked and said show picture (which is a pita) the

|> picture came up! Better than before we made all these changes. EBay

|> is the place I would have expected all the x's but it's fine. But I

|> think what you are saying is don't try the test.

|>

|> I remember there is a place on my Belkin setup site to put in proxy

|> settings. Let me know if I should do that. For now unless I have

|> problems.....I will leave the web shield on. Ginny

|>

|> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> news:%238YN3mfwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> > That Belkin firewall needs to be in on the game. Plus, we're not

|> > sure what other kinds of remains of other apps are left over on

|> > your machine that might be getting in the way. Or rather, we know

|> > that there's the probability of many such things. Pretty much as

|> > many as we can think of, <s>.

|> >

|> > --

|> > Gary S. Terhune

|> > MS-MVP Shell/User

|> > http://www.grystmill.com

|> >

|> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

|> > news:483f59cb$0$15183$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> > > Can not get online. Will change proxy setting back where they

|> > > were.

|> > >

|> > > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

|> > > news:483f5764$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> > >> Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web

|> > >> button has disappear

|> > >> in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other

|> > >> project). "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> > >> news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> > >> > OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy.

|> > >> > Didn't know that.

|> > >> > Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do

|> > >> > nothing so long

|> > >> > as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it

|> > >> > causes Ginny problems, even with no firewall installed on

|> > >> > Windows (just the Belkin router.) Unless maybe I've undone

|> > >> > enough now that it WILL just sit there and

|> > >> > do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

|> > >> >

|> > >> > --

|> > >> > Gary S. Terhune

|> > >> > MS-MVP Shell/User

|> > >> > http://www.grystmill.com

|> > >> >

|> > >> > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> > >> > news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> > >> > > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> > >> > > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable

|> > >> > > WebShield,

|> > >> > > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how

|> > >> > > | to do it

|> > >> > > in

|> > >> > > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure

|> > >> > > | WHICH one of these threads it's in, but perhaps you could

|> > >> > > | find those messages. Brian didn't contribute TOO much to

|> > >> > > | the threads, so it should be

|> > >> > > easy

|> > >> > > | to find them.

|> > >> > > |

|> > >> > > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new

|> > >> > > | install

|> > >> > > of

|> > >> > > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my

|> > >> > > | router (don't have any other firewall), didn't have to do

|> > >> > > | any of the things suggested in the articles cited by

|> > >> > > | Brian, and it is causing no problems. Never HAVE had to

|> > >> > > | disable the WebShield, that I can

|> > >> > > recall,

|> > >> > > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years,

|> > >> > > | but have installed it on numerous machines with WebShield

|> > >> > > | enabled (including several '9x machines) and had no

|> > >> > > | problems. Which just goes to show you that it ain't all

|> > >> > > | that simple.

|> > >> > >

|> > >> > > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

|> > >> > > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

|> > >> > >

|> > >> > > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s

|> > >> > > performance at...

|> > >> > > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

|> > >> > > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as

|> > >> > > McAfee was, which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus

|> > >> > > viruses there when clicked. With avast!, some of the

|> > >> > > double-zips had to be opened

|> > >> > > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply

|> > >> > > clicked

|> > >> > > for download. )

|> > >> > >

|> > >> > > So...

|> > >> > >

|> > >> > > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

|> > >> > > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

|> > >> > >

|> > >> > > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each

|> > >> > > site you visit? Also...

|> > >> > >

|> > >> > > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

|> > >> > > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

|> > >> > > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

|> > >> > > Performed Action

|> > >> > >

|> > >> > > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in

|> > >> > > pop-up windows at the bottom of your screen for each site

|> > >> > > you visit?

|> > >> > >

|> > >> > > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

|> > >> > >

|> > >> > > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier

|> > >> > > sub-version of

|> > >> > > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That

|> > >> > > makes sense, since it was manually implemented in the first

|> > >> > > place on this Win98 machine-- but one must remember to undo

|> > >> > > it manually (I guess), in the event one wants to uninstall

|> > >> > > avast! for good. If not undone, I'm thinking the NET won't

|> > >> > > work!

|> > >> > >

|> > >> > > | --

|> > >> > > | Gary S. Terhune

|> > >> > > | MS-MVP Shell/User

|> > >> > > | http://www.grystmill.com

|> > >> > > |

|> > >> > > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

|> > >> > > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> > >> > > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is

|> > >> > > |> add protection and may be redundant. The logging on the

|> > >> > > |> standard

|> > >> > > shield

|> > >> > > |> exceeds the webshield.

|> > >> > > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or

|> > >> > > |> application level FW

|> > >> > > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs

|> > >> > > |> server rights

|> > >> > > or

|> > >> > > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with

|> > >> > > |> these settings and ZA set such that webshield has access

|> > >> > > |> rights only. "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> > >> > > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|> > >> > > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA

|> > >> > > |>> installed, AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time

|> > >> > > |>> ago.)

|> > >> > > |>>

|> > >> > > |>> --

|> > >> > > |>> Gary S. Terhune

|> > >> > > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User

|> > >> > > |>> http://www.grystmill.com

|> > >> > > |>>

|> > >> > > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

|> > >> > > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> > >> > > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant

|> > >> > > |>> > ZoneAlarm firewall.

|> > >> > > |>> >

|> > >> > > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> > >> > > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> > >> > > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has

|> > >> > > |>> >> been dealt with in another thread in so far as IE is

|> > >> > > |>> >> concerned. The real question is whether to use

|> > >> > > |>> >> WebShield at all.

|> > >> > > |>> >>

|> > >> > > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have

|> > >> > > |>> >> a

|> > >> > > "wrap-up"

|> > >> > > |>> >> thread

|> > >> > > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also

|> > >> > > |>> >> just

|> > >> > > started

|> > >> > > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and

|> > >> > > |>> >> using a

|> > >> > > new

|> > >> > > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE".

|> > >> > > |>> >> Perhaps you could add something there?

|> > >> > > |>> >>

|> > >> > > |>> >> --

|> > >> > > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune

|> > >> > > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

|> > >> > > |>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

|> > >> > > |>> >>

|> > >> > > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

|> > >> > > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|> > >> > > |>> >> > For the ZA; Overview>Preferences>General_options:

|> > >> > > |>> >> > check the proxy setting and use localhost and port

|> > >> > > |>> >> > 12080. For MSIE; Internet Options>connections>Lan

|> > >> > > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need

|> > >> > > |>> >> > to put the loopback

|> > >> > > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA; FW>Zones: use

|> > >> > > |>> >> > IP address

|> > >> > > as

|> > >> > > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP

|> > >> > > |>> >> > 127.0.0.1 and assign it as Trusted.

|> > >> > > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and

|> > >> > > |>> >> > logging. * I not certain that the ZA setting is as

|> > >> > > |>> >> > necessary as MSIE, but seems to be

|> > >> > > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working

|> > >> > > |>> >> > like a "Transparent Proxy" server.

|> > >> > > |>> >> >

|> > >> > > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> > >> > > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> we'll try to wrap it

|> > >> > > |> up

|> > >> > > |>> > in

|> > >> > > |>> >> > the

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> boils down to there was

|> > >> > > |> a

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> rid of it.

|> > >> > > But

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> function,

|> > >> > > it

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> Avast! Support:

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > access internet in your firewall settings.

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> >

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > firewall, then

|> > >> > > |> start

|> > >> > > |>> >> > avast

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> check). When firewall

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> create the rule again. If your firewall has

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> option that allowed

|> > >> > > program

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> >

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > permission to

|> > >> > > access

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine)

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > on TCP

|> > >> > > port

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > 12080.

|> > >> > > |>> >> >>

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> be

|> > >> > > running

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.

|> > >> > > |>> >> >>

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> --

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

|> > >> > > |>> >> >>

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > still supports Windows 98se for my Dell

|> > >> > > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?

|> > >> > >

|> > >> > > --

|> > >> > > Thanks or Good Luck,

|> > >> > > There may be humor in this post, and,

|> > >> > > Naturally, you will not sue,

|> > >> > > Should things get worse after this,

|> > >> > > PCR

|> > >> > > pcrrcp@netzero.net

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

May 31, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-

IMO, considering the condition of the lady's machine at this time and the

imperative that she remain connected to the internet, and lastly that there

are still other more important tasks that need to be performed on the

machine ASAP, I'd leave well enough alone. Maybe come back to it later. The

Standard Shield is the important one. That, along with the passive

protections already in place and the system is sufficiently protected for

the moment.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User