need antivirus

June 1, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

I think it needs reinstalling (Avast!)

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:4842fe24$0$15204$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Without Web Shield. I had a hard time opening it last night to run a

> scan. "An

> attempt was made to load, ...." when I close that out. the splash screen

> is frozen

> there and I have to do a ctl alt dlt to 'end task' , then the scanner is

> ther with a

> simple interface. I can not close it with the x. Again I have to run a

> ctl-alt-dlt.

> to end task. So I guess it is not running as smoothly as I thought.

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%23DXhKqAxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> "Avast is running smoothly..." Is that WITH the WebShield turned on or

>> without?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:48424910$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > Brian asked: What is the exact make/model of the router?

>> >

>> > Answer: BELKIN Model # F5D5230-4

>> >

>> > Brian A said :if anything you may need to forward the port that Avast

>> > uses in order

>> > to allow it through.

>> >

>> > Reply: Avast is having no problems. Running smoothly. Thanks.

>> >

>> > Ginny

>> >

>> > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

>> > news:uahHmV6wIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:4840bb81$0$25061$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> >I did not set anything in Belkin. Perhaps I should have gone to my

>> >> >site

>> >> >and

>> >> >entered

>> >> > the Proxy settings for Avast.

>> >>

>> >> It's not a site, it's the routers web based configuration. I don't

>> >> believe

>> >> there is any proxy setting needed at all in the routers configuration,

>> >> .

>> >>>

>> >> --

>> >>

>> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >>

>> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

>> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

June 1, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

CdLSRN wrote:

| I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I am. As far

| as Dr. Watson:

| --------------------

| <unknown> has altered Windows system files.

| Module Name: <unknown>

| --------------------

| That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years. Nothing new.

|

| I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".

|

| Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My question is,

| why didn't someone tell me that when I couldn't get online? Wouldn't

| that have solved my problem? Ginny

I don't recall suggesting a system restore or even a registry restore to

you for this specific problem. It could come in handy in the future. You

should get something that does a full system backup. Nothing very useful

for that comes with Win98. I use...

http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup

capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or Image to

HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand partitions without

data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use beyond 30 days, $34.95.

...., but there are alternatives that others use & like.

As far as that <unknown> in your DrWatson report (yep, this was where to

respond for that), I wouldn't want to have it, but frankly I did live

with one for a while I think. It may go away on its own some day when

you uninstall some package or program. As long as it is not mentioned in

a crash report, probably you can live with it. Keep DrWatson in the Tray

for that report on your next crash.

One way to research it is to boot to Safe Mode (the Startup Group won't

start in Safe Mode) or to use "START, Run, MSConfig" to turn off the

Startup Group & boot to Normal Mode. If it drops out of that DrWatson

Diagnosis window, then it is something in the Startup Group doing it.

Then, you turn half of them back on, reboot, & see whether it's

returned-- & so on. But it may not really be worth all this trouble,

since you've had it forever without incident. OK-- glad all else seems

to be just fine. Maybe post your Starup Group, as I suggested somewhere

in this thread, for a quick examination.

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:OUluF34wIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> As Jim has said, absolutely the 2 "KB" entries are fine. I tend to

|> think the Adobe Type Manager entry can remain as well. But this

|> one...

|>

|> --------------------

|> <unknown> has altered Windows system files.

|> Module Name: <unknown>

|> --------------------

|>

|> ...needs to be investigated! It could be innocent, but anyway I

|> wouldn't want one there myself. (I dimly recall once I did have it,

|> but it isn't there now. Could be it came/went with some in/uninstall

|> I did-- maybe NetZero's NET-search thing?) Anyway, I'm looking at

|> Google for some ideas, but that is a difficult one to figure. In the

|> meantime, maybe post your Startup Group...

|>

|> (a) "START button, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Startup

|> Programs".

|> (b) Use the Edit menu to select all, copy, & then post it.

|>

|> But, STILL, it may be a good idea to finish up with Terhune before

|> investigating this-- for my safety & yours! I think he's almost done

|> arguing with MEB!

|>

|> CdLSRN wrote:

|> | --------------------

|> | Windows KB891711 component has altered Windows system files.

|> |

|> | Module Name: KB891711.EXE

|> | Description: Windows KB891711 component

|> | Version: 4.10.2223

|> | Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System

|> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation

|> |

|> | --------------------

|> | Adobe Type Manager has altered Windows system files.

|> |

|> | Module Name: ATMSYS.DRV

|> | Description: Adobe Type Manager

|> | Version: R v4.00-32S058G06NN

|> | Product: Adobe Type Manager

|> | Manufacturer: Adobe Systems Incorporated

|> |

|> | --------------------

|> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.

|> |

|> | Module Name: <unknown>

|> |

|> | --------------------

|> | Windows KB918547 EXE component has altered Windows system files.

|> |

|> | Module Name: KB918547.EXE

|> | Description: Windows KB918547 EXE component

|> | Version: 4.10.2224

|> | Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System

|> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation

|> |

|> |> To get a bit more diagnostic info about such crashes...

|> |>

|> |> "START button, Run, DRWATSON";

|> |> now, D-Clk it's button in the Tray.

|> |>

|> |> What diagnosis is on the first tab? Copy/paste it's contents,

|> |> using the menu. Close DrWatson, but leave it in the Tray. It sits

|> |> waiting for a crash, then traps it, putting info into the

|> |> Diagnosis tab.

|> |>

|> |> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, DrWatson.exe".

|> |> (Should be in "C:\Windows".)

|> |> (b) R-Clk it, point to "Send to" & click "Desktop (Create

|> |> shortcut)". © R-Clk the shortcut on the Desktop, & select "Cut".

|> |> (d) Open Explorer to "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp"

|> |> (e) R-Clk in the R-Pane, & select "Paste".

|> |>

|> |> Now, it will always boot to the Tray, waiting for a crash or a

|> |> D-Clk. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=275481

|> |> How to troubleshoot

|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> | news:ecF6cAswIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> |> CdLSRN wrote:

|> |> | I am here and you can get me to test it. Tell me what you want

|> |> | me to do. Gin

|> |>

|> |> Well, (turn on DrWatson now, but) best finish up with Terhune in

|> |> all threads first, I think-- I'd rather he battle with MEB than

|> |> me! He isn't quite as mellow as he had once become anymore! After

|> |> that, as I posted elsewhere...

|> |>

|> |> I wouldn't necessarily give up on the avast! proxy yet.

|> |>

|> |> (a) Was it working until you set something in Belkin?

|> |> (b) Can you remember anything more about the fatal exception,

|> |> like did it mention any programs & what was the last thing

|> |> you clicked before it happened?

|> |> © Did you ever have one like that before setting avast!'s proxy?

|> |>

|> | program faults with DrWatson

|> |>

|> |> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> |> | news:ODYJ3lqwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> |> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> |> |> | OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy.

|> |> |> | Didn't know that.

|> |> |>

|> |> |> That appears to be so. Athough it appears to involve sites

|> |> |> only -- the stuff that begins "http:" & probably "https:" &

|> |> |> possibly others -- there could be multiples involved when

|> |> |> clicking a single URL. I can see 4 http:'s flash by in pop-ups

|> |> |> when I click that avast! URL I posted earlier-- & the Scanned

|> |> |> Count increased from 17 to 22!

|> |> |>

|> |> |> TIFs STILL were scanned (seen in pop-ups) as they entered, even

|> |> |> with Web Shield paused. Scanned Count did not increased for

|> |> |> them.

|> |> |>

|> |> |> | Well, IMO, that ain't worth it.

|> |> |>

|> |> |> Well, it DOES seem to improve virus detection at that Eicar

|> |> |> site, as I said. Checking again (& this is a bit different

|> |> |> from first remembered)...

|> |> |>

|> |> |> With Web Shield PAUSED... none of the 8 clicked at Eicar sound

|> |> |> an alarm. The download box is offered instead, & the download

|> |> |> is allowed. The downloaded file has to be R-Clkd & scanned or

|> |> |> clicked to run or open for avast! to detect a virus.

|> |> |>

|> |> |> With Web Shield RESUMED... the all 4 HTTP viruses get detected

|> |> |> as soon as they are clicked at the site. The download box is

|> |> |> not offererd. All 4 HTTPS viruses behaved as with WS paused.

|> |> |>

|> |> |> Now, I see (Web Shield on or off), the HTTPS eicar.com.txt file

|> |> |> will open when clicked. Even downloaded, it also will open when

|> |> |> clicked. For a virus to be detected-- it must be R-Clkd &

|> |> |> explicitly scanned! SO... avast! isn't perfect! (The HTTP text

|> |> |> file will get detected when clicked at the site-- usually! If

|> |> |> it stops detecting that one, clear TIFs of all things Eicar.

|> |> |> Sheesh.)

|> |> |>

|> |> |> For all of that, it didn't seem to matter whether On-Access

|> |> |> Scan was set to Normal or to High.

|> |> |>

|> |> |> | It can just sit there and

|> |> |> | do nothing so long as it stays out of the way. What I don't

|> |> |> | get is that it causes Ginny problems, even with no firewall

|> |> |> | installed on Windows (just the Belkin router.) Unless maybe

|> |> |> | I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there and do

|> |> |> | nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

|> |> |>

|> |> |> I see she's done a bit of testing but had a crash. I'll try to

|> |> |> figure it, if I can.

|> |> |>

|> |> |> | --

|> |> |> | Gary S. Terhune

|> |> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User

|> |> |> | http://www.grystmill.com

|> |> |> |

|> |> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> |> |> | news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> |> |> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> |> |> |> | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable

|> |> |> |> | WebShield, Brian A. has provided the support pages that

|> |> |> |> | explain how to do it in Windows 98 (different from later

|> |> |> |> | versions.) Not sure WHICH one of these threads it's in,

|> |> |> |> | but perhaps you could find those messages. Brian didn't

|> |> |> |> | contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be easy

|> |> |> |> | to find them.

|> |> |> |> |

|> |> |> |> | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new

|> |> |> |> | install of 98, didn't have to change the firewall

|> |> |> |> | settings in my router (don't have any other firewall),

|> |> |> |> | didn't have to do any of the things suggested in the

|> |> |> |> | articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no problems.

|> |> |> |> | Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can

|> |> |> |> | recall, and I've not only been using it for at least a

|> |> |> |> | few years, but have installed it on numerous machines

|> |> |> |> | with WebShield enabled (including several '9x machines)

|> |> |> |> | and had no problems. Which just goes to show you that it

|> |> |> |> | ain't all that simple.

|> |> |> |>

|> |> |> |> You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

|> |> |> |> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

|> |> |> |>

|> |> |> |> I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s

|> |> |> |> performance at...

|> |> |> |> http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

|> |> |> |> (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee

|> |> |> |> was, which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses

|> |> |> |> there when clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had

|> |> |> |> to be opened after download before an alarm would sound--

|> |> |> |> not simply clicked for download. )

|> |> |> |>

|> |> |> |> So...

|> |> |> |>

|> |> |> |> (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

|> |> |> |> (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

|> |> |> |>

|> |> |> |> What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each

|> |> |> |> site you visit? Also...

|> |> |> |>

|> |> |> |> © Click the Customise button.

|> |> |> |> (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

|> |> |> |> (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

|> |> |> |> (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

|> |> |> |> Performed Action

|> |> |> |>

|> |> |> |> Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in

|> |> |> |> pop-up windows at the bottom of your screen for each site

|> |> |> |> you visit?

|> |> |> |>

|> |> |> |> One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

|> |> |> |>

|> |> |> |> On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier

|> |> |> |> sub-version of avast!, the setting was not automatically

|> |> |> |> undone. That makes sense, since it was manually implemented

|> |> |> |> in the first place on this Win98 machine-- but one must

|> |> |> |> remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the event one

|> |> |> |> wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm

|> |> |> |> thinking the NET won't work!

|> |> |> |>

|> |> |> |> | --

|> |> |> |> | Gary S. Terhune

|> |> |> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User

|> |> |> |> | http://www.grystmill.com

|> |>

|> |> ...snip

|> |> --

|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> |> Should things get worse after this,

|> |> PCR

|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

June 1, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98. Unless

| you make full system backups using a third-party app, the closest you

| can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup. That would not

| have gotten you back online. Your old firewall was what kept you

| offline.

I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the others!

Maybe MEB said it!

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I am. As

|> far as Dr. Watson:

|> --------------------

|> <unknown> has altered Windows system files.

|> Module Name: <unknown>

|> --------------------

|> That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years. Nothing

|> new.

|>

|> I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".

|>

|> Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My question

|> is, why didn't

|> someone tell me that when I couldn't get online? Wouldn't that have

|> solved my

|> problem? Ginny

|>

|> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> news:OUluF34wIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|>> As Jim has said, absolutely the 2 "KB" entries are fine. I tend to

|>> think the Adobe Type Manager entry can remain as well. But this

|>> one...

|>>

|>> --------------------

|>> <unknown> has altered Windows system files.

|>> Module Name: <unknown>

|>> --------------------

|>>

|>> ...needs to be investigated! It could be innocent, but anyway I

|>> wouldn't want one there myself. (I dimly recall once I did have it,

|>> but it isn't there now. Could be it came/went with some

|>> in/uninstall I did-- maybe NetZero's NET-search thing?) Anyway, I'm

|>> looking at Google for some ideas, but that is a difficult one to

|>> figure. In the meantime, maybe post your Startup Group...

|>>

|>> (a) "START button, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Startup

|>> Programs".

|>> (b) Use the Edit menu to select all, copy, & then post it.

|>>

|>> But, STILL, it may be a good idea to finish up with Terhune before

|>> investigating this-- for my safety & yours! I think he's almost done

|>> arguing with MEB!

|>>

|>> CdLSRN wrote:

|>> | --------------------

|>> | Windows KB891711 component has altered Windows system files.

|>> |

|>> | Module Name: KB891711.EXE

|>> | Description: Windows KB891711 component

|>> | Version: 4.10.2223

|>> | Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System

|>> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation

|>> |

|>> | --------------------

|>> | Adobe Type Manager has altered Windows system files.

|>> |

|>> | Module Name: ATMSYS.DRV

|>> | Description: Adobe Type Manager

|>> | Version: R v4.00-32S058G06NN

|>> | Product: Adobe Type Manager

|>> | Manufacturer: Adobe Systems Incorporated

|>> |

|>> | --------------------

|>> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.

|>> |

|>> | Module Name: <unknown>

|>> |

|>> | --------------------

|>> | Windows KB918547 EXE component has altered Windows system files.

|>> |

|>> | Module Name: KB918547.EXE

|>> | Description: Windows KB918547 EXE component

|>> | Version: 4.10.2224

|>> | Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System

|>> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation

|>> |

|>> |> To get a bit more diagnostic info about such crashes...

|>> |>

|>> |> "START button, Run, DRWATSON";

|>> |> now, D-Clk it's button in the Tray.

|>> |>

|>> |> What diagnosis is on the first tab? Copy/paste it's contents,

|>> |> using the menu. Close DrWatson, but leave it in the Tray. It sits

|>> |> waiting for a crash, then traps it, putting info into the

|>> |> Diagnosis tab.

|>> |>

|>> |> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, DrWatson.exe".

|>> |> (Should be in "C:\Windows".)

|>> |> (b) R-Clk it, point to "Send to" & click "Desktop (Create

|>> |> shortcut)". © R-Clk the shortcut on the Desktop, & select

|>> |> "Cut". (d) Open Explorer to "C:\WINDOWS\Start

|>> |> Menu\Programs\StartUp" (e) R-Clk in the R-Pane, & select "Paste".

|>> |>

|>> |> Now, it will always boot to the Tray, waiting for a crash or a

|>> |> D-Clk. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=275481

|>> |> How to troubleshoot

|>> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|>> | news:ecF6cAswIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|>> |> CdLSRN wrote:

|>> |> | I am here and you can get me to test it. Tell me what you want

|>> |> | me to do. Gin

|>> |>

|>> |> Well, (turn on DrWatson now, but) best finish up with Terhune in

|>> |> all threads first, I think-- I'd rather he battle with MEB than

|>> |> me! He isn't quite as mellow as he had once become anymore!

|>> |> After that, as I posted elsewhere...

|>> |>

|>> |> I wouldn't necessarily give up on the avast! proxy yet.

|>> |>

|>> |> (a) Was it working until you set something in Belkin?

|>> |> (b) Can you remember anything more about the fatal exception,

|>> |> like did it mention any programs & what was the last thing

|>> |> you clicked before it happened?

|>> |> © Did you ever have one like that before setting avast!'s

|>> |> proxy?

|>> |>

|>> | program faults with DrWatson

|>> |>

|>> |> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|>> |> | news:ODYJ3lqwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|>> |> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|>> |> |> | OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy.

|>> |> |> | Didn't know that.

|>> |> |>

|>> |> |> That appears to be so. Athough it appears to involve sites

|>> |> |> only -- the stuff that begins "http:" & probably "https:" &

|>> |> |> possibly others -- there could be multiples involved when

|>> |> |> clicking a single URL. I can see 4 http:'s flash by in

|>> |> |> pop-ups when I click that avast! URL I posted earlier-- & the

|>> |> |> Scanned Count increased from 17 to 22!

|>> |> |>

|>> |> |> TIFs STILL were scanned (seen in pop-ups) as they entered,

|>> |> |> even with Web Shield paused. Scanned Count did not increased

|>> |> |> for them.

|>> |> |>

|>> |> |> | Well, IMO, that ain't worth it.

|>> |> |>

|>> |> |> Well, it DOES seem to improve virus detection at that Eicar

|>> |> |> site, as I said. Checking again (& this is a bit different

|>> |> |> from first remembered)...

|>> |> |>

|>> |> |> With Web Shield PAUSED... none of the 8 clicked at Eicar

|>> |> |> sound an alarm. The download box is offered instead, & the

|>> |> |> download is allowed. The downloaded file has to be R-Clkd &

|>> |> |> scanned or clicked to run or open for avast! to detect a

|>> |> |> virus.

|>> |> |>

|>> |> |> With Web Shield RESUMED... the all 4 HTTP viruses get

|>> |> |> detected as soon as they are clicked at the site. The

|>> |> |> download box is not offererd. All 4 HTTPS viruses behaved as

|>> |> |> with WS paused.

|>> |> |>

|>> |> |> Now, I see (Web Shield on or off), the HTTPS eicar.com.txt

|>> |> |> file will open when clicked. Even downloaded, it also will

|>> |> |> open when clicked. For a virus to be detected-- it must be

|>> |> |> R-Clkd & explicitly scanned! SO... avast! isn't perfect! (The

|>> |> |> HTTP text file will get detected when clicked at the site--

|>> |> |> usually! If it stops detecting that one, clear TIFs of all

|>> |> |> things Eicar. Sheesh.)

|>> |> |>

|>> |> |> For all of that, it didn't seem to matter whether On-Access

|>> |> |> Scan was set to Normal or to High.

|>> |> |>

|>> |> |> | It can just sit there and

|>> |> |> | do nothing so long as it stays out of the way. What I don't

|>> |> |> | get is that it causes Ginny problems, even with no firewall

|>> |> |> | installed on Windows (just the Belkin router.) Unless maybe

|>> |> |> | I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there and do

|>> |> |> | nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

|>> |> |>

|>> |> |> I see she's done a bit of testing but had a crash. I'll try to

|>> |> |> figure it, if I can.

|>> |> |>

|>> |> |> | --

|>> |> |> | Gary S. Terhune

|>> |> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User

|>> |> |> | http://www.grystmill.com

|>> |> |> |

|>> |> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|>> |> |> | news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|>> |> |> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|>> |> |> |> | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to

|>> |> |> |> | enable WebShield, Brian A. has provided the support

|>> |> |> |> | pages that explain how to do it in Windows 98 (different

|>> |> |> |> | from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of these

|>> |> |> |> | threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those

|>> |> |> |> | messages. Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the

|>> |> |> |> | threads, so it should be easy to find them.

|>> |> |> |> |

|>> |> |> |> | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new

|>> |> |> |> | install of 98, didn't have to change the firewall

|>> |> |> |> | settings in my router (don't have any other firewall),

|>> |> |> |> | didn't have to do any of the things suggested in the

|>> |> |> |> | articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no problems.

|>> |> |> |> | Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can

|>> |> |> |> | recall, and I've not only been using it for at least a

|>> |> |> |> | few years, but have installed it on numerous machines

|>> |> |> |> | with WebShield enabled (including several '9x machines)

|>> |> |> |> | and had no problems. Which just goes to show you that it

|>> |> |> |> | ain't all that simple.

|>> |> |> |>

|>> |> |> |> You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

|>> |> |> |> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

|>> |> |> |>

|>> |> |> |> I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s

|>> |> |> |> performance at...

|>> |> |> |> http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

|>> |> |> |> (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as

|>> |> |> |> McAfee was, which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus

|>> |> |> |> viruses there when clicked. With avast!, some of the

|>> |> |> |> double-zips had to be opened after download before an

|>> |> |> |> alarm would sound-- not simply clicked for download. )

|>> |> |> |>

|>> |> |> |> So...

|>> |> |> |>

|>> |> |> |> (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

|>> |> |> |> (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

|>> |> |> |>

|>> |> |> |> What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each

|>> |> |> |> site you visit? Also...

|>> |> |> |>

|>> |> |> |> © Click the Customise button.

|>> |> |> |> (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

|>> |> |> |> (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

|>> |> |> |> (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

|>> |> |> |> Performed Action

|>> |> |> |>

|>> |> |> |> Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in

|>> |> |> |> pop-up windows at the bottom of your screen for each site

|>> |> |> |> you visit?

|>> |> |> |>

|>> |> |> |> One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

|>> |> |> |>

|>> |> |> |> On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier

|>> |> |> |> sub-version of avast!, the setting was not automatically

|>> |> |> |> undone. That makes sense, since it was manually

|>> |> |> |> implemented in the first place on this Win98 machine-- but

|>> |> |> |> one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

|>> |> |> |> event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not

|>> |> |> |> undone, I'm thinking the NET won't work!

|>> |> |> |>

|>> |> |> |> | --

|>> |> |> |> | Gary S. Terhune

|>> |> |> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User

|>> |> |> |> | http://www.grystmill.com

|>> |>

|>> |> ...snip

|>> |> --

|>> |> Thanks or Good Luck,

|>> |> There may be humor in this post, and,

|>> |> Naturally, you will not sue,

|>> |> Should things get worse after this,

|>> |> PCR

|>> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|>>

|>> --

|>> Thanks or Good Luck,

|>> There may be humor in this post, and,

|>> Naturally, you will not sue,

|>> Should things get worse after this,

|>> PCR

|>> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

June 1, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

My Startup group:

Microsoft Office Startup Group "C:\Program Files\Microsoft

Office\Office\OSA9.EXE" -b -l

run Win.ini hpfsched

SSBkgdUpdate Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program Files\Common Files\Scansoft

Shared\SSBkgdUpdate\SSBkgdupdate.exe" -Embedding -boot

OpwareSE4 Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program

Files\ScanSoft\OmniPageSE4.0\OpwareSE4.exe"

ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe

POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe

Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe

LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe

powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun

SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe

StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE

SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE -startgui

mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe

avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe

HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe

HP Status Server Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe

winmodem Registry (Machine Service) WINMODEM.101\wmexe.exe

KB918547 Registry (Machine Service) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE

KB891711 Registry (Machine Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE

PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program

Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe

LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe

powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:Oxn$3kCxIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> CdLSRN wrote:

> | I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I am. As far

> | as Dr. Watson:

> | --------------------

> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.

> | Module Name: <unknown>

> | --------------------

> | That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years. Nothing new.

> |

> | I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".

> |

> | Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My question is,

> | why didn't someone tell me that when I couldn't get online? Wouldn't

> | that have solved my problem? Ginny

>

> I don't recall suggesting a system restore or even a registry restore to

> you for this specific problem. It could come in handy in the future. You

> should get something that does a full system backup. Nothing very useful

> for that comes with Win98. I use...

>

> http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup

> capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or Image to

> HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand partitions without

> data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use beyond 30 days, $34.95.

>

> ..., but there are alternatives that others use & like.

>

> As far as that <unknown> in your DrWatson report (yep, this was where to

> respond for that), I wouldn't want to have it, but frankly I did live

> with one for a while I think. It may go away on its own some day when

> you uninstall some package or program. As long as it is not mentioned in

> a crash report, probably you can live with it. Keep DrWatson in the Tray

> for that report on your next crash.

>

> One way to research it is to boot to Safe Mode (the Startup Group won't

> start in Safe Mode) or to use "START, Run, MSConfig" to turn off the

> Startup Group & boot to Normal Mode. If it drops out of that DrWatson

> Diagnosis window, then it is something in the Startup Group doing it.

> Then, you turn half of them back on, reboot, & see whether it's

> returned-- & so on. But it may not really be worth all this trouble,

> since you've had it forever without incident. OK-- glad all else seems

> to be just fine. Maybe post your Starup Group, as I suggested somewhere

> in this thread, for a quick examination.

>

June 2, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

I see where you posted your Startup Group. It will take some study for

me to decipher. In the meantime-- absolutely clicking avast! should not

do the things you say. You must go to Add/Remove Programs & uninstall

it...

(a) "START button, Find, F/F, SetupEng"

That is the avast! raw download. How many do you have?

Delete all but the latest, going by Modification date.

(b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs"

Avast! Antivirus Setup will open.

(d) Click the Update Components icon.

Is the version showing... 4.8.1201?

(e) Click the Uninstall button, & do the uninstall.

(f) If the version was less than mine, delete your remaining

SetupEng.exe to avoid confusing & save disk space--

& go download the new one...

http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

(g) Click your latest SetupEng.exe to do the install.

Now, can you click around in avast! & not crash? If so, we may proceed

with the settings. Let's try the proxy again...

http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

Since you have a LAN, do the one that involves the LAN only.

.......Quote instructions when LAN is involved...................

Proxy server settings for Internet Explorer when using broadband and/or

local area network (LAN) Internet connection

1. Start Internet Explorer.

2. Select Tools ® Internet Options... from the main menu.

3. Switch to page Connections.

4. Click on the LAN Settings... button.

5. Check the option Use a proxy server for your LAN

6. Write localhost into the Address field (alternatively, you can

enter IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the same as localhost).

7. Enter 12080 into the Port field.

8. Confirm with OK button.

........EOQ instructions when LAN is involved......................

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:4842fe24$0$15204$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| Without Web Shield. I had a hard time opening it last night to run a

scan. "An

| attempt was made to load, ...." when I close that out. the splash

screen is frozen

| there and I have to do a ctl alt dlt to 'end task' , then the scanner

is ther with a

| simple interface. I can not close it with the x. Again I have to run a

ctl-alt-dlt.

| to end task. So I guess it is not running as smoothly as I thought.

|

| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| news:%23DXhKqAxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > "Avast is running smoothly..." Is that WITH the WebShield turned on

or

| > without?

| >

| > --

| > Gary S. Terhune

| > MS-MVP Shell/User

| > http://www.grystmill.com

| >

| > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > news:48424910$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > > Brian asked: What is the exact make/model of the router?

| > >

| > > Answer: BELKIN Model # F5D5230-4

| > >

| > > Brian A said :if anything you may need to forward the port that

Avast

| > > uses in order

| > > to allow it through.

| > >

| > > Reply: Avast is having no problems. Running smoothly. Thanks.

| > >

| > > Ginny

| > >

| > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

| > > news:uahHmV6wIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > >> news:4840bb81$0$25061$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > >> >I did not set anything in Belkin. Perhaps I should have gone to

my site

| > >> >and

| > >> >entered

| > >> > the Proxy settings for Avast.

| > >>

| > >> It's not a site, it's the routers web based configuration. I

don't

| > >> believe

| > >> there is any proxy setting needed at all in the routers

configuration, .

| > >>>

| > >> --

| > >>

| > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

| > >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

| > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

| > >>

| > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

| > >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

| > >>

| > >

| >

|

June 2, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

<BG> The lady has plenty of practice uninstalling and installing Avast!,

PCR! With lots of expert help. Besides, if she has an older version, it can

easily be updated using the taskbar icon's menu. I still use setupeng from

1/27/07. In fact, I *think* it automatically updates during install but I

can't be sure. Anyway, there are two update choices in the menu, for the

engine and for the defs.

As for using the proxy, seems to me that doing so already caused problems

for Ginny, but I can't recall for sure. Still, IMO, if an app needs a proxy

it should deal with it during Setup. Otherwise, it definitely won't get

UNdealt with during an uninstall, and that eventuality might cause all kinds

of grief. WebShield's a secondary layer of idiot-proofing, er, defense,

anyway. Besides, the lady seems to be a safe surfer.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:ePz6oaFxIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I see where you posted your Startup Group. It will take some study for

> me to decipher. In the meantime-- absolutely clicking avast! should not

> do the things you say. You must go to Add/Remove Programs & uninstall

> it...

>

> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, SetupEng"

>

> That is the avast! raw download. How many do you have?

> Delete all but the latest, going by Modification date.

>

> (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs"

> © Double-Click avast! Anti-virus in the list.

> Avast! Antivirus Setup will open.

> (d) Click the Update Components icon.

> Is the version showing... 4.8.1201?

> (e) Click the Uninstall button, & do the uninstall.

>

> (f) If the version was less than mine, delete your remaining

> SetupEng.exe to avoid confusing & save disk space--

> & go download the new one...

> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

>

> (g) Click your latest SetupEng.exe to do the install.

>

> Now, can you click around in avast! & not crash? If so, we may proceed

> with the settings. Let's try the proxy again...

> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

> Since you have a LAN, do the one that involves the LAN only.

>

> ......Quote instructions when LAN is involved...................

> Proxy server settings for Internet Explorer when using broadband and/or

> local area network (LAN) Internet connection

>

> 1. Start Internet Explorer.

> 2. Select Tools ® Internet Options... from the main menu.

> 3. Switch to page Connections.

> 4. Click on the LAN Settings... button.

> 5. Check the option Use a proxy server for your LAN

> 6. Write localhost into the Address field (alternatively, you can

> enter IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the same as localhost).

> 7. Enter 12080 into the Port field.

> 8. Confirm with OK button.

> .......EOQ instructions when LAN is involved......................

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:4842fe24$0$15204$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | Without Web Shield. I had a hard time opening it last night to run a

> scan. "An

> | attempt was made to load, ...." when I close that out. the splash

> screen is frozen

> | there and I have to do a ctl alt dlt to 'end task' , then the scanner

> is ther with a

> | simple interface. I can not close it with the x. Again I have to run a

> ctl-alt-dlt.

> | to end task. So I guess it is not running as smoothly as I thought.

> |

> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | news:%23DXhKqAxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > "Avast is running smoothly..." Is that WITH the WebShield turned on

> or

> | > without?

> | >

> | > --

> | > Gary S. Terhune

> | > MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > http://www.grystmill.com

> | >

> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > news:48424910$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > > Brian asked: What is the exact make/model of the router?

> | > >

> | > > Answer: BELKIN Model # F5D5230-4

> | > >

> | > > Brian A said :if anything you may need to forward the port that

> Avast

> | > > uses in order

> | > > to allow it through.

> | > >

> | > > Reply: Avast is having no problems. Running smoothly. Thanks.

> | > >

> | > > Ginny

> | > >

> | > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

> | > > news:uahHmV6wIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > >> news:4840bb81$0$25061$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > >> >I did not set anything in Belkin. Perhaps I should have gone to

> my site

> | > >> >and

> | > >> >entered

> | > >> > the Proxy settings for Avast.

> | > >>

> | > >> It's not a site, it's the routers web based configuration. I

> don't

> | > >> believe

> | > >> there is any proxy setting needed at all in the routers

> configuration, .

> | > >>>

> | > >> --

> | > >>

> | > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

> | > >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> | > >>

> | > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> | > >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> | > >>

> | > >

> | >

> |

>

June 2, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

CdLSRN wrote:

| My Startup group:

Well, this site...

http://www.pcreview.co.uk/startup/

....seems to be fairly excellent! Copy/pste each of your startup programs

into there to know what they do & whether they might be safely removed.

Get back with any further questions. I did the first two...

| Microsoft Office Startup Group "C:\Program Files\Microsoft

| Office\Office\OSA9.EXE" -b -l

That comes in with Microsoft Office Suite to improve performance. You

don't have the OSA9.EXE that is a virus, because yours is in the right

folder it should be in. The site is recommending it be removed, anyhow,

for being a resource hog. It does have this note, though...

Note - if you make use of the Microsoft Office Shortcut Bar outside an

office program this application will need to be enabled for it to show.

If you want to remove it, look in Office Suites various menus to see

whether it has an option to turn that feature off. Otherwise, you would

uncheck that item at "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab"-- but Terhune

is against doing it there!

| run Win.ini hpfsched

That one is showing up in your DrWatson report. The site says it's just

reminding you to clean your printer cartridges. To remove it...

(a) "START button, Run, Win.ini"

(b) Remove "hpfsched" from the "run=",

so that it is now just... run=

Doing so "might" get rid of that <unknown>-- IIRC from something glee

said long ago!

| SSBkgdUpdate Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program Files\Common

| Files\Scansoft Shared\SSBkgdUpdate\SSBkgdupdate.exe" -Embedding -boot

Look uup-- SSBkgdupdate.exe. That is, copy/paste it into the requestor

at that site. Report back, if you can't figure what to do.

| OpwareSE4 Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program

| Files\ScanSoft\OmniPageSE4.0\OpwareSE4.exe"

Look up-- OpwareSE4.exe.

| ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run)

| C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe

That is one of the avast! startups & will be replaced when you do that

un/re-install. It will be necessary to keep this one.

| POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe

Look up-- point32.exe.

| Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe

Look up-- chngline.exe.

| LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe

| powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

That one you must keep. It is a normal MS program that loads & exits

quickly during boot.

| ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun

| SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe

That one too must be kept. It does your Registry backup at boot.

| StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE

Look up-- STIMON.EXE.

| SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE

| -startgui

| mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run)

| C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe

Look up-- runonce.exe. It actually is an MS program-- don't delete the

program! Yours SHOULD be deactivated from the Startup Group, though,

going by that site. Uncheck it in MSConfig, if you can find no other

way.

| avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil

| Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe

That also is avast!.

| HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine

| Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe

Look up-- hpbpro.exe.

| HP Status Server

| Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe

| winmodem Registry (Machine Service) WINMODEM.101\wmexe.exe

Look up-- wmexe.exe.

| KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)

| C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE KB891711

That is an MS critical update. Keep.

| Registry (Machine

| Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE

Same here-- keep this critical update. Only Bill in Co. has permission

not to!

| PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program

| Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe

Look this one up-- ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe.

| LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe

| powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

Keep-- it looks like a duplicate, but it is not.

| SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM

| FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE

Look up-- SMC.EXE.

|

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:Oxn$3kCxIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

|> CdLSRN wrote:

|> | I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I am. As

|> | far as Dr. Watson:

|> | --------------------

|> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.

|> | Module Name: <unknown>

|> | --------------------

|> | That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years. Nothing

|> | new.

|> |

|> | I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".

|> |

|> | Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My question

|> | is, why didn't someone tell me that when I couldn't get online?

|> | Wouldn't that have solved my problem? Ginny

|>

|> I don't recall suggesting a system restore or even a registry

|> restore to you for this specific problem. It could come in handy in

|> the future. You should get something that does a full system backup.

|> Nothing very useful for that comes with Win98. I use...

|>

|> http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup

|> capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or Image

|> to HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand partitions

|> without data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use beyond 30 days,

|> $34.95.

|>

|> ..., but there are alternatives that others use & like.

|>

|> As far as that <unknown> in your DrWatson report (yep, this was

|> where to respond for that), I wouldn't want to have it, but frankly

|> I did live with one for a while I think. It may go away on its own

|> some day when you uninstall some package or program. As long as it

|> is not mentioned in a crash report, probably you can live with it.

|> Keep DrWatson in the Tray for that report on your next crash.

|>

|> One way to research it is to boot to Safe Mode (the Startup Group

|> won't start in Safe Mode) or to use "START, Run, MSConfig" to turn

|> off the Startup Group & boot to Normal Mode. If it drops out of that

|> DrWatson Diagnosis window, then it is something in the Startup Group

|> doing it. Then, you turn half of them back on, reboot, & see whether

|> it's returned-- & so on. But it may not really be worth all this

|> trouble, since you've had it forever without incident. OK-- glad all

|> else seems to be just fine. Maybe post your Starup Group, as I

|> suggested somewhere in this thread, for a quick examination.

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

June 2, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| <BG> The lady has plenty of practice uninstalling and installing

| Avast!, PCR! With lots of expert help. Besides, if she has an older

| version, it can easily be updated using the taskbar icon's menu. I

| still use setupeng from 1/27/07. In fact, I *think* it automatically

| updates during install but I can't be sure. Anyway, there are two

| update choices in the menu, for the engine and for the defs.

True, but she reports crashes when clicking avast! icons. Might be best

to un/re-install in this circumstance, if she won't crash trying.

| As for using the proxy, seems to me that doing so already caused

| problems for Ginny, but I can't recall for sure. Still, IMO, if an

| app needs a proxy it should deal with it during Setup. Otherwise, it

| definitely won't get UNdealt with during an uninstall, and that

| eventuality might cause all kinds of grief. WebShield's a secondary

| layer of idiot-proofing, er, defense, anyway. Besides, the lady seems

| to be a safe surfer.

I would want to try just once more (because it improves the Eicar

testing), especially as the current install isn't a good one & might be

malfunctioning at the proxy setting for that reason.

I have to go now, will get back tomorrow.

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:ePz6oaFxIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|>I see where you posted your Startup Group. It will take some study for

|> me to decipher. In the meantime-- absolutely clicking avast! should

|> not do the things you say. You must go to Add/Remove Programs &

|> uninstall it...

|>

|> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, SetupEng"

|>

|> That is the avast! raw download. How many do you have?

|> Delete all but the latest, going by Modification date.

|>

|> (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs"

|> © Double-Click avast! Anti-virus in the list.

|> Avast! Antivirus Setup will open.

|> (d) Click the Update Components icon.

|> Is the version showing... 4.8.1201?

|> (e) Click the Uninstall button, & do the uninstall.

|>

|> (f) If the version was less than mine, delete your remaining

|> SetupEng.exe to avoid confusing & save disk space--

|> & go download the new one...

|> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

|>

|> (g) Click your latest SetupEng.exe to do the install.

|>

|> Now, can you click around in avast! & not crash? If so, we may

|> proceed with the settings. Let's try the proxy again...

|> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

|> Since you have a LAN, do the one that involves the LAN only.

|>

|> ......Quote instructions when LAN is involved...................

|> Proxy server settings for Internet Explorer when using broadband

|> and/or local area network (LAN) Internet connection

|>

|> 1. Start Internet Explorer.

|> 2. Select Tools ® Internet Options... from the main menu.

|> 3. Switch to page Connections.

|> 4. Click on the LAN Settings... button.

|> 5. Check the option Use a proxy server for your LAN

|> 6. Write localhost into the Address field (alternatively, you can

|> enter IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the same as localhost).

|> 7. Enter 12080 into the Port field.

|> 8. Confirm with OK button.

|> .......EOQ instructions when LAN is involved......................

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

|> news:4842fe24$0$15204$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> | Without Web Shield. I had a hard time opening it last night to

|> | run a scan. "An attempt was made to load, ...." when I close that

|> | out. the splash screen is frozen there and I have to do a ctl alt

|> | dlt to 'end task' , then the scanner is ther with a simple

|> | interface. I can not close it with the x. Again I have to run a

|> | ctl-alt-dlt. to end task. So I guess it is not running as smoothly

|> | as I thought.

|> |

|> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> | news:%23DXhKqAxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|> | > "Avast is running smoothly..." Is that WITH the WebShield turned

|> | > on or without?

|> | >

|> | > --

|> | > Gary S. Terhune

|> | > MS-MVP Shell/User

|> | > http://www.grystmill.com

|> | >

|> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

|> | > news:48424910$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> | > > Brian asked: What is the exact make/model of the router?

|> | > >

|> | > > Answer: BELKIN Model # F5D5230-4

|> | > >

|> | > > Brian A said :if anything you may need to forward the port

|> | > > that Avast uses in order

|> | > > to allow it through.

|> | > >

|> | > > Reply: Avast is having no problems. Running smoothly. Thanks.

|> | > >

|> | > > Ginny

|> | > >

|> | > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

|> | > > news:uahHmV6wIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

|> | > >> news:4840bb81$0$25061$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> | > >> >I did not set anything in Belkin. Perhaps I should have gone

|> | > >> >to my site and

|> | > >> >entered

|> | > >> > the Proxy settings for Avast.

|> | > >>

|> | > >> It's not a site, it's the routers web based configuration.

|> | > >> I don't believe

|> | > >> there is any proxy setting needed at all in the routers

|> | > >> configuration, .

|> | > >>>

|> | > >> --

|> | > >>

|> | > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

|> | > >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

|> | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

|> | > >>

|> | > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

|> | > >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

June 2, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

NO I didn't....

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"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

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| Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98. Unless

| | you make full system backups using a third-party app, the closest you

| | can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup. That would not

| | have gotten you back online. Your old firewall was what kept you

| | offline.

|

| I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the others!

| Maybe MEB said it!

|

| | --

| | Gary S. Terhune

| | MS-MVP Shell/User

| | http://www.grystmill.com

| |

| | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| |> I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I am. As

| |> far as Dr. Watson:

| |> --------------------

| |> <unknown> has altered Windows system files.

| |> Module Name: <unknown>

| |> --------------------

| |> That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years. Nothing

| |> new.

| |>

| |> I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".

| |>

| |> Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My question

| |> is, why didn't

| |> someone tell me that when I couldn't get online? Wouldn't that have

| |> solved my

| |> problem? Ginny

| |>

| |> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| |> news:OUluF34wIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| |>> As Jim has said, absolutely the 2 "KB" entries are fine. I tend to

| |>> think the Adobe Type Manager entry can remain as well. But this

| |>> one...

| |>>

| |>> --------------------

| |>> <unknown> has altered Windows system files.

| |>> Module Name: <unknown>

| |>> --------------------

| |>>

| |>> ...needs to be investigated! It could be innocent, but anyway I

| |>> wouldn't want one there myself. (I dimly recall once I did have it,

| |>> but it isn't there now. Could be it came/went with some

| |>> in/uninstall I did-- maybe NetZero's NET-search thing?) Anyway, I'm

| |>> looking at Google for some ideas, but that is a difficult one to

| |>> figure. In the meantime, maybe post your Startup Group...

| |>>

| |>> (a) "START button, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Startup

| |>> Programs".

| |>> (b) Use the Edit menu to select all, copy, & then post it.

| |>>

| |>> But, STILL, it may be a good idea to finish up with Terhune before

| |>> investigating this-- for my safety & yours! I think he's almost done

| |>> arguing with MEB!

| |>>

| |>> CdLSRN wrote:

| |>> | --------------------

| |>> | Windows KB891711 component has altered Windows system files.

| |>> |

| |>> | Module Name: KB891711.EXE

| |>> | Description: Windows KB891711 component

| |>> | Version: 4.10.2223

| |>> | Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System

| |>> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation

| |>> |

| |>> | --------------------

| |>> | Adobe Type Manager has altered Windows system files.

| |>> |

| |>> | Module Name: ATMSYS.DRV

| |>> | Description: Adobe Type Manager

| |>> | Version: R v4.00-32S058G06NN

| |>> | Product: Adobe Type Manager

| |>> | Manufacturer: Adobe Systems Incorporated

| |>> |

| |>> | --------------------

| |>> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.

| |>> |

| |>> | Module Name: <unknown>

| |>> |

| |>> | --------------------

| |>> | Windows KB918547 EXE component has altered Windows system files.

| |>> |

| |>> | Module Name: KB918547.EXE

| |>> | Description: Windows KB918547 EXE component

| |>> | Version: 4.10.2224

| |>> | Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System

| |>> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation

| |>> |

| |>> |> To get a bit more diagnostic info about such crashes...

| |>> |>

| |>> |> "START button, Run, DRWATSON";

| |>> |> now, D-Clk it's button in the Tray.

| |>> |>

| |>> |> What diagnosis is on the first tab? Copy/paste it's contents,

| |>> |> using the menu. Close DrWatson, but leave it in the Tray. It sits

| |>> |> waiting for a crash, then traps it, putting info into the

| |>> |> Diagnosis tab.

| |>> |>

| |>> |> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, DrWatson.exe".

| |>> |> (Should be in "C:\Windows".)

| |>> |> (b) R-Clk it, point to "Send to" & click "Desktop (Create

| |>> |> shortcut)". © R-Clk the shortcut on the Desktop, & select

| |>> |> "Cut". (d) Open Explorer to "C:\WINDOWS\Start

| |>> |> Menu\Programs\StartUp" (e) R-Clk in the R-Pane, & select "Paste".

| |>> |>

| |>> |> Now, it will always boot to the Tray, waiting for a crash or a

| |>> |> D-Clk. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=275481

| |>> |> How to troubleshoot

| |>> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| |>> | news:ecF6cAswIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| |>> |> CdLSRN wrote:

| |>> |> | I am here and you can get me to test it. Tell me what you want

| |>> |> | me to do. Gin

| |>> |>

| |>> |> Well, (turn on DrWatson now, but) best finish up with Terhune in

| |>> |> all threads first, I think-- I'd rather he battle with MEB than

| |>> |> me! He isn't quite as mellow as he had once become anymore!

| |>> |> After that, as I posted elsewhere...

| |>> |>

| |>> |> I wouldn't necessarily give up on the avast! proxy yet.

| |>> |>

| |>> |> (a) Was it working until you set something in Belkin?

| |>> |> (b) Can you remember anything more about the fatal exception,

| |>> |> like did it mention any programs & what was the last thing

| |>> |> you clicked before it happened?

| |>> |> © Did you ever have one like that before setting avast!'s

| |>> |> proxy?

| |>> |>

| |>> | program faults with DrWatson

| |>> |>

| |>> |> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| |>> |> | news:ODYJ3lqwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| |>> |> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| |>> |> |> | OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy.

| |>> |> |> | Didn't know that.

| |>> |> |>

| |>> |> |> That appears to be so. Athough it appears to involve sites

| |>> |> |> only -- the stuff that begins "http:" & probably "https:" &

| |>> |> |> possibly others -- there could be multiples involved when

| |>> |> |> clicking a single URL. I can see 4 http:'s flash by in

| |>> |> |> pop-ups when I click that avast! URL I posted earlier-- & the

| |>> |> |> Scanned Count increased from 17 to 22!

| |>> |> |>

| |>> |> |> TIFs STILL were scanned (seen in pop-ups) as they entered,

| |>> |> |> even with Web Shield paused. Scanned Count did not increased

| |>> |> |> for them.

| |>> |> |>

| |>> |> |> | Well, IMO, that ain't worth it.

| |>> |> |>

| |>> |> |> Well, it DOES seem to improve virus detection at that Eicar

| |>> |> |> site, as I said. Checking again (& this is a bit different

| |>> |> |> from first remembered)...

| |>> |> |>

| |>> |> |> With Web Shield PAUSED... none of the 8 clicked at Eicar

| |>> |> |> sound an alarm. The download box is offered instead, & the

| |>> |> |> download is allowed. The downloaded file has to be R-Clkd &

| |>> |> |> scanned or clicked to run or open for avast! to detect a

| |>> |> |> virus.

| |>> |> |>

| |>> |> |> With Web Shield RESUMED... the all 4 HTTP viruses get

| |>> |> |> detected as soon as they are clicked at the site. The

| |>> |> |> download box is not offererd. All 4 HTTPS viruses behaved as

| |>> |> |> with WS paused.

| |>> |> |>

| |>> |> |> Now, I see (Web Shield on or off), the HTTPS eicar.com.txt

| |>> |> |> file will open when clicked. Even downloaded, it also will

| |>> |> |> open when clicked. For a virus to be detected-- it must be

| |>> |> |> R-Clkd & explicitly scanned! SO... avast! isn't perfect! (The

| |>> |> |> HTTP text file will get detected when clicked at the site--

| |>> |> |> usually! If it stops detecting that one, clear TIFs of all

| |>> |> |> things Eicar. Sheesh.)

| |>> |> |>

| |>> |> |> For all of that, it didn't seem to matter whether On-Access

| |>> |> |> Scan was set to Normal or to High.

| |>> |> |>

| |>> |> |> | It can just sit there and

| |>> |> |> | do nothing so long as it stays out of the way. What I don't

| |>> |> |> | get is that it causes Ginny problems, even with no firewall

| |>> |> |> | installed on Windows (just the Belkin router.) Unless maybe

| |>> |> |> | I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there and do

| |>> |> |> | nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.

| |>> |> |>

| |>> |> |> I see she's done a bit of testing but had a crash. I'll try to

| |>> |> |> figure it, if I can.

| |>> |> |>

| |>> |> |> | --

| |>> |> |> | Gary S. Terhune

| |>> |> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User

| |>> |> |> | http://www.grystmill.com

| |>> |> |> |

| |>> |> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| |>> |> |> | news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| |>> |> |> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| |>> |> |> |> | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to

| |>> |> |> |> | enable WebShield, Brian A. has provided the support

| |>> |> |> |> | pages that explain how to do it in Windows 98 (different

| |>> |> |> |> | from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of these

| |>> |> |> |> | threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those

| |>> |> |> |> | messages. Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the

| |>> |> |> |> | threads, so it should be easy to find them.

| |>> |> |> |> |

| |>> |> |> |> | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new

| |>> |> |> |> | install of 98, didn't have to change the firewall

| |>> |> |> |> | settings in my router (don't have any other firewall),

| |>> |> |> |> | didn't have to do any of the things suggested in the

| |>> |> |> |> | articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no problems.

| |>> |> |> |> | Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can

| |>> |> |> |> | recall, and I've not only been using it for at least a

| |>> |> |> |> | few years, but have installed it on numerous machines

| |>> |> |> |> | with WebShield enabled (including several '9x machines)

| |>> |> |> |> | and had no problems. Which just goes to show you that it

| |>> |> |> |> | ain't all that simple.

| |>> |> |> |>

| |>> |> |> |> You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...

| |>> |> |> |> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

| |>> |> |> |>

| |>> |> |> |> I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s

| |>> |> |> |> performance at...

| |>> |> |> |> http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

| |>> |> |> |> (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as

| |>> |> |> |> McAfee was, which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus

| |>> |> |> |> viruses there when clicked. With avast!, some of the

| |>> |> |> |> double-zips had to be opened after download before an

| |>> |> |> |> alarm would sound-- not simply clicked for download. )

| |>> |> |> |>

| |>> |> |> |> So...

| |>> |> |> |>

| |>> |> |> |> (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.

| |>> |> |> |> (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.

| |>> |> |> |>

| |>> |> |> |> What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each

| |>> |> |> |> site you visit? Also...

| |>> |> |> |>

| |>> |> |> |> © Click the Customise button.

| |>> |> |> |> (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.

| |>> |> |> |> (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.

| |>> |> |> |> (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on

| |>> |> |> |> Performed Action

| |>> |> |> |>

| |>> |> |> |> Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in

| |>> |> |> |> pop-up windows at the bottom of your screen for each site

| |>> |> |> |> you visit?

| |>> |> |> |>

| |>> |> |> |> One thing about that HTTP Proxy...

| |>> |> |> |>

| |>> |> |> |> On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier

| |>> |> |> |> sub-version of avast!, the setting was not automatically

| |>> |> |> |> undone. That makes sense, since it was manually

| |>> |> |> |> implemented in the first place on this Win98 machine-- but

| |>> |> |> |> one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the

| |>> |> |> |> event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not

| |>> |> |> |> undone, I'm thinking the NET won't work!

| |>> |> |> |>

| |>> |> |> |> | --

| |>> |> |> |> | Gary S. Terhune

| |>> |> |> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User

| |>> |> |> |> | http://www.grystmill.com

| |>> |>

| |>> |> ...snip

| |>> |> --

| |>> |> Thanks or Good Luck,

| |>> |> There may be humor in this post, and,

| |>> |> Naturally, you will not sue,

| |>> |> Should things get worse after this,

| |>> |> PCR

| |>> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net

| |>>

| |>> --

| |>> Thanks or Good Luck,

| |>> There may be humor in this post, and,

| |>> Naturally, you will not sue,

| |>> Should things get worse after this,

| |>> PCR

| |>> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|

| --

| Thanks or Good Luck,

| There may be humor in this post, and,

| Naturally, you will not sue,

| Should things get worse after this,

| PCR

| pcrrcp@netzero.net

|

June 2, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Do the startup review, she has some things which could be removed..

How much free memory is left/what's the load? Don't see a post with that

info..

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"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

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| Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| | <BG> The lady has plenty of practice uninstalling and installing

| | Avast!, PCR! With lots of expert help. Besides, if she has an older

| | version, it can easily be updated using the taskbar icon's menu. I

| | still use setupeng from 1/27/07. In fact, I *think* it automatically

| | updates during install but I can't be sure. Anyway, there are two

| | update choices in the menu, for the engine and for the defs.

|

| True, but she reports crashes when clicking avast! icons. Might be best

| to un/re-install in this circumstance, if she won't crash trying.

|

| | As for using the proxy, seems to me that doing so already caused

| | problems for Ginny, but I can't recall for sure. Still, IMO, if an

| | app needs a proxy it should deal with it during Setup. Otherwise, it

| | definitely won't get UNdealt with during an uninstall, and that

| | eventuality might cause all kinds of grief. WebShield's a secondary

| | layer of idiot-proofing, er, defense, anyway. Besides, the lady seems

| | to be a safe surfer.

|

| I would want to try just once more (because it improves the Eicar

| testing), especially as the current install isn't a good one & might be

| malfunctioning at the proxy setting for that reason.

|

| I have to go now, will get back tomorrow.

|

| | --

| | Gary S. Terhune

| | MS-MVP Shell/User

| | http://www.grystmill.com

| |

| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| | news:ePz6oaFxIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| |>I see where you posted your Startup Group. It will take some study for

| |> me to decipher. In the meantime-- absolutely clicking avast! should

| |> not do the things you say. You must go to Add/Remove Programs &

| |> uninstall it...

| |>

| |> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, SetupEng"

| |>

| |> That is the avast! raw download. How many do you have?

| |> Delete all but the latest, going by Modification date.

| |>

| |> (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs"

| |> © Double-Click avast! Anti-virus in the list.

| |> Avast! Antivirus Setup will open.

| |> (d) Click the Update Components icon.

| |> Is the version showing... 4.8.1201?

| |> (e) Click the Uninstall button, & do the uninstall.

| |>

| |> (f) If the version was less than mine, delete your remaining

| |> SetupEng.exe to avoid confusing & save disk space--

| |> & go download the new one...

| |> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

| |>

| |> (g) Click your latest SetupEng.exe to do the install.

| |>

| |> Now, can you click around in avast! & not crash? If so, we may

| |> proceed with the settings. Let's try the proxy again...

| |> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

| |> Since you have a LAN, do the one that involves the LAN only.

| |>

| |> ......Quote instructions when LAN is involved...................

| |> Proxy server settings for Internet Explorer when using broadband

| |> and/or local area network (LAN) Internet connection

| |>

| |> 1. Start Internet Explorer.

| |> 2. Select Tools ® Internet Options... from the main menu.

| |> 3. Switch to page Connections.

| |> 4. Click on the LAN Settings... button.

| |> 5. Check the option Use a proxy server for your LAN

| |> 6. Write localhost into the Address field (alternatively, you can

| |> enter IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the same as localhost).

| |> 7. Enter 12080 into the Port field.

| |> 8. Confirm with OK button.

| |> .......EOQ instructions when LAN is involved......................

| |>

| |> --

| |> Thanks or Good Luck,

| |> There may be humor in this post, and,

| |> Naturally, you will not sue,

| |> Should things get worse after this,

| |> PCR

| |> pcrrcp@netzero.net

| |> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| |> news:4842fe24$0$15204$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| |> | Without Web Shield. I had a hard time opening it last night to

| |> | run a scan. "An attempt was made to load, ...." when I close that

| |> | out. the splash screen is frozen there and I have to do a ctl alt

| |> | dlt to 'end task' , then the scanner is ther with a simple

| |> | interface. I can not close it with the x. Again I have to run a

| |> | ctl-alt-dlt. to end task. So I guess it is not running as smoothly

| |> | as I thought.

| |> |

| |> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| |> | news:%23DXhKqAxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| |> | > "Avast is running smoothly..." Is that WITH the WebShield turned

| |> | > on or without?

| |> | >

| |> | > --

| |> | > Gary S. Terhune

| |> | > MS-MVP Shell/User

| |> | > http://www.grystmill.com

| |> | >

| |> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| |> | > news:48424910$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| |> | > > Brian asked: What is the exact make/model of the router?

| |> | > >

| |> | > > Answer: BELKIN Model # F5D5230-4

| |> | > >

| |> | > > Brian A said :if anything you may need to forward the port

| |> | > > that Avast uses in order

| |> | > > to allow it through.

| |> | > >

| |> | > > Reply: Avast is having no problems. Running smoothly. Thanks.

| |> | > >

| |> | > > Ginny

| |> | > >

| |> | > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

| |> | > > news:uahHmV6wIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| |> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| |> | > >> news:4840bb81$0$25061$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| |> | > >> >I did not set anything in Belkin. Perhaps I should have gone

| |> | > >> >to my site and

| |> | > >> >entered

| |> | > >> > the Proxy settings for Avast.

| |> | > >>

| |> | > >> It's not a site, it's the routers web based configuration.

| |> | > >> I don't believe

| |> | > >> there is any proxy setting needed at all in the routers

| |> | > >> configuration, .

| |> | > >>>

| |> | > >> --

| |> | > >>

| |> | > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

| |> | > >> Conflicts start where information lacks.

| |> | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

| |> | > >>

| |> | > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

| |> | > >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

|

| --

| Thanks or Good Luck,

| There may be humor in this post, and,

| Naturally, you will not sue,

| Should things get worse after this,

| PCR

| pcrrcp@netzero.net

|

June 2, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

I have 3.46 GB freed up now.

Gary and I uninstalled and installed the Avast Virus Scanner this evening. Now it's

running fine. opens fine. I don't need Web scanning. I am working on the startup

items. I disabled some that I knew could be. List of what's running now, below.