need antivirus

June 3, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Gary, Would you please send me the link to get my newsgroups directly from, instead

of my ISP for the Microsoft. and I will ask in the other groups that I use how to get

them without my ISP?

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:ei0ogNZxIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Note that there are only five Registry backups, so be careful making new

> ones. Might end up with five copies of your currently bad Registry and none

> to restore.

>

> With all the frantic back and forth, it's difficult to say for sure what

> went wrong with the Avast! installation, but it was probably a combination

> of one or both firewalls and the WebShield. Problem was, there was other

> confusions that sidetracked us from focusing on the primary issues. I'm also

> not convinced that the problem(s) included messes left over by previous

> installers, specifically installers from ISPs. (Which should NEVER be

> installed!!! Well, almost never.)

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:4844e3d7$0$15181$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >I found the printed papers. They are titled "Restore to a previous

> >date.txt" , a bit

> > of a misleading title if that isn't what it does. It says : "Windows 98

> > comes with a

> > utility called Registry Checker that backs up the registry each time you

> > turn your

> > computer on , and scans your Registry at every restart. If Registry

> > Checker finds a

> > problem with your Registry, it will automatically replace it with your

> > most recent

> > backup copy.

> >

> > To run the Registry Checker at any time:

> > Click the Start button. Point to Programs, Accessories and point to system

> > Tools

> > Click System Information

> > Click Tools from the menu bar and then click Registry Checker." run the

> > Registry

> > Checker at any time: etc. etc.

> >

> > Ginny

> >

> > To

> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:4844de15$0$15167$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> No "System Restore" wasn't mentioned. What was mentioned was that the

> >> registry

> > backs

> >> itself up every few days and that if I booted into Safe Mode and pressed

> >> option #5

> > (I

> >> was then given the words I should type in) and then I would be given my

> >> choice of a

> >> few dates I could back up to. (I printed it out somewhere and it is in

> >> the string

> >> somewhere). I believe it is not in words but a link I was given. Because

> >> at the top

> >> of the printed page it said "untitled", I don't remember who sent it. I

> >> didn't

> >> follow those instructions.

> >> And, it was my mistake in thinking these instructions would have

> >> restored my

> >> computer to the way it was back on that date. I just thought if that date

> >> was

> > before

> >> I put the Avast in, that the problem would have disappeared.

> >> I don't know why anyone would fight over it. So, kiss and make up!

> >> Ginny

> >>

> >> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> >> news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> > MEB wrote:

> >> > | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't really

> >> > | an argument.

> >> >

> >> > It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for

> >> > either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review

> >> > does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

> >> >

> >> > | --

> >> > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> >> > | --

> >> > | _________

> >> > |

> >> > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> >> > | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> > || MEB wrote:

> >> > || | NO I didn't....

> >> > ||

> >> > || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important

> >> > || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,

> >> > || anyhow! :-).

> >> > ||

> >> > || | --

> >> > || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> >> > || | --

> >> > || | _________

> >> > || |

> >> > || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> >> > || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> > || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >> > || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.

> >> > || || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app,

> >> > the

> >> > || || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.

> >> > || || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall

> >> > || || | was what kept you offline.

> >> > || ||

> >> > || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the

> >> > || || others! Maybe MEB said it!

> >> > || ||

> >> > || || | --

> >> > || || | Gary S. Terhune

> >> > || || | MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> > || || | http://www.grystmill.com

> >> > || || |

> >> > || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> > || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> > ||

> >> > || ...snip

> >> > || --

> >> > || Thanks or Good Luck,

> >> > || There may be humor in this post, and,

> >> > || Naturally, you will not sue,

> >> > || Should things get worse after this,

> >> > || PCR

> >> > || pcrrcp@netzero.net

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,

> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,

> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,

> >> > Should things get worse after this,

> >> > PCR

> >> > pcrrcp@netzero.net

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

June 3, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Most of the groups you use you can only get via your ISP or web-based Usenet

interfaces. (Or, I may be wrong and there are free Usenet servers out there.

Dunno.) But for MS newsgroups, just set up a new news account using

msnews.microsoft.com for the server name. Otherwise, it's anonymous logon,

so no username/password, just your alias and a fake email address.

When you leave the NG, it will prompt you to keep subscribed. Follow the

instructions. This is an anonymous server, so there is no username/password

logon, and you already know about using a fake email address.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:4845c537$0$15163$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Gary, Would you please send me the link to get my newsgroups directly

> from, instead

> of my ISP for the Microsoft. and I will ask in the other groups that I use

> how to get

> them without my ISP?

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:ei0ogNZxIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Note that there are only five Registry backups, so be careful making new

>> ones. Might end up with five copies of your currently bad Registry and

>> none

>> to restore.

>>

>> With all the frantic back and forth, it's difficult to say for sure what

>> went wrong with the Avast! installation, but it was probably a

>> combination

>> of one or both firewalls and the WebShield. Problem was, there was other

>> confusions that sidetracked us from focusing on the primary issues. I'm

>> also

>> not convinced that the problem(s) included messes left over by previous

>> installers, specifically installers from ISPs. (Which should NEVER be

>> installed!!! Well, almost never.)

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:4844e3d7$0$15181$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >I found the printed papers. They are titled "Restore to a previous

>> >date.txt" , a bit

>> > of a misleading title if that isn't what it does. It says : "Windows 98

>> > comes with a

>> > utility called Registry Checker that backs up the registry each time

>> > you

>> > turn your

>> > computer on , and scans your Registry at every restart. If Registry

>> > Checker finds a

>> > problem with your Registry, it will automatically replace it with your

>> > most recent

>> > backup copy.

>> >

>> > To run the Registry Checker at any time:

>> > Click the Start button. Point to Programs, Accessories and point to

>> > system

>> > Tools

>> > Click System Information

>> > Click Tools from the menu bar and then click Registry Checker." run the

>> > Registry

>> > Checker at any time: etc. etc.

>> >

>> > Ginny

>> >

>> > To

>> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > news:4844de15$0$15167$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> No "System Restore" wasn't mentioned. What was mentioned was that the

>> >> registry

>> > backs

>> >> itself up every few days and that if I booted into Safe Mode and

>> >> pressed

>> >> option #5

>> > (I

>> >> was then given the words I should type in) and then I would be given

>> >> my

>> >> choice of a

>> >> few dates I could back up to. (I printed it out somewhere and it is in

>> >> the string

>> >> somewhere). I believe it is not in words but a link I was given.

>> >> Because

>> >> at the top

>> >> of the printed page it said "untitled", I don't remember who sent it.

>> >> I

>> >> didn't

>> >> follow those instructions.

>> >> And, it was my mistake in thinking these instructions would have

>> >> restored my

>> >> computer to the way it was back on that date. I just thought if that

>> >> date

>> >> was

>> > before

>> >> I put the Avast in, that the problem would have disappeared.

>> >> I don't know why anyone would fight over it. So, kiss and make up!

>> >> Ginny

>> >>

>> >> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> >> news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> > MEB wrote:

>> >> > | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't

>> >> > really

>> >> > | an argument.

>> >> >

>> >> > It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for

>> >> > either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review

>> >> > does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

>> >> >

>> >> > | --

>> >> > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> >> > | --

>> >> > | _________

>> >> > |

>> >> > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> >> > | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> > || MEB wrote:

>> >> > || | NO I didn't....

>> >> > ||

>> >> > || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important

>> >> > || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,

>> >> > || anyhow! :-).

>> >> > ||

>> >> > || | --

>> >> > || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> >> > || | --

>> >> > || | _________

>> >> > || |

>> >> > || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> >> > || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> > || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> >> > || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows

>> >> > 98.

>> >> > || || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app,

>> >> > the

>> >> > || || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry

>> >> > Backup.

>> >> > || || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old

>> >> > firewall

>> >> > || || | was what kept you offline.

>> >> > || ||

>> >> > || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the

>> >> > || || others! Maybe MEB said it!

>> >> > || ||

>> >> > || || | --

>> >> > || || | Gary S. Terhune

>> >> > || || | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> > || || | http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> > || || |

>> >> > || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> > || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> > ||

>> >> > || ...snip

>> >> > || --

>> >> > || Thanks or Good Luck,

>> >> > || There may be humor in this post, and,

>> >> > || Naturally, you will not sue,

>> >> > || Should things get worse after this,

>> >> > || PCR

>> >> > || pcrrcp@netzero.net

>> >> >

>> >> > --

>> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,

>> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,

>> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,

>> >> > Should things get worse after this,

>> >> > PCR

>> >> > pcrrcp@netzero.net

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

June 4, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

CdLSRN wrote:

| No "System Restore" wasn't mentioned. What was mentioned was that the

| registry backs itself up every few days and that if I booted into

| Safe Mode and pressed option #5 (I was then given the words I should

| type in) and then I would be given my choice of a few dates I could

| back up to. (I printed it out somewhere and it is in the string

| somewhere). I believe it is not in words but a link I was given.

| Because at the top of the printed page it said "untitled", I don't

| remember who sent it. I didn't follow those instructions. And, it

| was my mistake in thinking these instructions would have restored my

| computer to the way it was back on that date. I just thought if that

| date was before I put the Avast in, that the problem would have

| disappeared. I don't know why anyone would fight over it. So, kiss

| and make up! Ginny

That is a Registry restore-- ScanReg /Restore. I see you found your

instructions. A Registry restore can sometimes do amazing things, but it

doesn't include restoring or removing many files. If it was a Registry,

Win.ini or System.ini SETTING that was the problem, then a Registry

restore does fix it when you go back to a Registry that doesn't have the

setting.

In the case of avast!, I see most of it will execute at start by virtue

of being called from the Registry, but one part of it at least is

started from...

C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp

(Maybe it's just a certain option I've selected in avast! to put a

shortcut to AshAvast.exe there, BUT...) that would not get undone by a

Registry restore. You'd have to go & delete it yourself! Also, all of

the files of avast! would be left behind on your hard drive.

That is why a Registry restore is usually inappropriate to deal with

things, except in a dire emergency! But the statute of limitations is

past on that bad advice. So... kissing & making up is out of the

question! Maybe MEB & Terhune ought to do it over their colloquy gone

bad, though!

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> MEB wrote:

|> | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't

|> | really an argument.

|>

|> It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for

|> either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review

|> does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

|>

|> | --

|> | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|> | --

|> | _________

|> |

|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> || MEB wrote:

|> || | NO I didn't....

|> ||

|> || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important

|> || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,

|> || anyhow! :-).

|> ||

|> || | --

|> || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|> || | --

|> || | _________

|> || |

|> || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows

|> || || | 98. Unless you make full system backups using a third-party

|> || || | app, the closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a

|> || || | Registry Backup. That would not have gotten you back online.

|> || || | Your old firewall was what kept you offline.

|> || ||

|> || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the

|> || || others! Maybe MEB said it!

|> || ||

|> || || | --

|> || || | Gary S. Terhune

|> || || | MS-MVP Shell/User

|> || || | http://www.grystmill.com

|> || || |

|> || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

|> || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> ||

|> || ...snip

|> || --

|> || Thanks or Good Luck,

|> || There may be humor in this post, and,

|> || Naturally, you will not sue,

|> || Should things get worse after this,

|> || PCR

|> || pcrrcp@netzero.net

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

June 4, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Open Outlook Express.

On the Menu bar click Tools > Accounts > News tab > Add button > News....

Type in a name, this name is what will show in the From column to others in the

ngs.

Click Next.

Type in an email address, fake (munged) is best, but be creative and try not to

use one that may be a real email address or they may get delivered to the person

with that address. When typing in a fake addy OE may complain, ignore the

complaint and continue.

Click Next.

Type in: msnews.microsoft.com

Click Next > Finish.

If the Newsgroup icon isn't on Toolbar, Right click the Toolbar.

Click "Customize" in the popup menu.

Press hold down the Left mouse button on the Newsgroups icon in the Left pane.

Drag the "Newsgroups" icon from the Left pane to Right pane and release the Left

mouse button. If you move up/down in the Right pane before releasing the

button, you can drop the icon in the position it will appear on the Toolbar.

Click Close.

Click the Newsgroup icon on the Toolbar.

In the text input box Display ngs that contain type: 98 or anything else in an

ng name. As you type, any ng name that contains what your typing will appear in

the lower pane. Select any ng you wish to subscribe to in the lower pane and

click the Subscribe button. When finished with your selections, click Ok.

In the Folders pane on the left, Right click an ng that is listed.

In the popup menu click "Synchronization settings". Click one of the selections

for synchronizing that you wish to use. I use All Messages while others use

Only New Messages, the choice is yours.

Now any time you open OE and click on one of the ng's listed in the folders

pane, the messages for that ng will be downloaded for your viewing. New posts

and posts with new response in them will be shown in bold while old posts

with/without responses that you have read will not be in bold. Whenever you

read a post/response they will toggle from being bold to not being bold. Any

post with response will show as bold if any response in the post has not been

read.

There are a few other things you'll want to do in configuring signatures,

rules, etc. but first set up the ngs and then you can get to the rest. Since

everyone sets there's up in their preferred way, you will/may get several

different suggestions on how to configure them.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:4845c537$0$15163$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Gary, Would you please send me the link to get my newsgroups directly from,

> instead

> of my ISP for the Microsoft. and I will ask in the other groups that I use how

> to get

> them without my ISP?

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:ei0ogNZxIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Note that there are only five Registry backups, so be careful making new

>> ones. Might end up with five copies of your currently bad Registry and none

>> to restore.

>>

>> With all the frantic back and forth, it's difficult to say for sure what

>> went wrong with the Avast! installation, but it was probably a combination

>> of one or both firewalls and the WebShield. Problem was, there was other

>> confusions that sidetracked us from focusing on the primary issues. I'm also

>> not convinced that the problem(s) included messes left over by previous

>> installers, specifically installers from ISPs. (Which should NEVER be

>> installed!!! Well, almost never.)

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:4844e3d7$0$15181$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >I found the printed papers. They are titled "Restore to a previous

>> >date.txt" , a bit

>> > of a misleading title if that isn't what it does. It says : "Windows 98

>> > comes with a

>> > utility called Registry Checker that backs up the registry each time you

>> > turn your

>> > computer on , and scans your Registry at every restart. If Registry

>> > Checker finds a

>> > problem with your Registry, it will automatically replace it with your

>> > most recent

>> > backup copy.

>> >

>> > To run the Registry Checker at any time:

>> > Click the Start button. Point to Programs, Accessories and point to system

>> > Tools

>> > Click System Information

>> > Click Tools from the menu bar and then click Registry Checker." run the

>> > Registry

>> > Checker at any time: etc. etc.

>> >

>> > Ginny

>> >

>> > To

>> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > news:4844de15$0$15167$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> No "System Restore" wasn't mentioned. What was mentioned was that the

>> >> registry

>> > backs

>> >> itself up every few days and that if I booted into Safe Mode and pressed

>> >> option #5

>> > (I

>> >> was then given the words I should type in) and then I would be given my

>> >> choice of a

>> >> few dates I could back up to. (I printed it out somewhere and it is in

>> >> the string

>> >> somewhere). I believe it is not in words but a link I was given. Because

>> >> at the top

>> >> of the printed page it said "untitled", I don't remember who sent it. I

>> >> didn't

>> >> follow those instructions.

>> >> And, it was my mistake in thinking these instructions would have

>> >> restored my

>> >> computer to the way it was back on that date. I just thought if that date

>> >> was

>> > before

>> >> I put the Avast in, that the problem would have disappeared.

>> >> I don't know why anyone would fight over it. So, kiss and make up!

>> >> Ginny

>> >>

>> >> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> >> news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> > MEB wrote:

>> >> > | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't really

>> >> > | an argument.

>> >> >

>> >> > It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for

>> >> > either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review

>> >> > does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

>> >> >

>> >> > | --

>> >> > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> >> > | --

>> >> > | _________

>> >> > |

>> >> > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> >> > | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> > || MEB wrote:

>> >> > || | NO I didn't....

>> >> > ||

>> >> > || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important

>> >> > || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,

>> >> > || anyhow! :-).

>> >> > ||

>> >> > || | --

>> >> > || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> >> > || | --

>> >> > || | _________

>> >> > || |

>> >> > || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> >> > || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> > || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> >> > || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.

>> >> > || || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app,

>> >> > the

>> >> > || || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.

>> >> > || || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall

>> >> > || || | was what kept you offline.

>> >> > || ||

>> >> > || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the

>> >> > || || others! Maybe MEB said it!

>> >> > || ||

>> >> > || || | --

>> >> > || || | Gary S. Terhune

>> >> > || || | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> > || || | http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> > || || |

>> >> > || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> > || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> > ||

>> >> > || ...snip

>> >> > || --

>> >> > || Thanks or Good Luck,

>> >> > || There may be humor in this post, and,

>> >> > || Naturally, you will not sue,

>> >> > || Should things get worse after this,

>> >> > || PCR

>> >> > || pcrrcp@netzero.net

>> >> >

>> >> > --

>> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,

>> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,

>> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,

>> >> > Should things get worse after this,

>> >> > PCR

>> >> > pcrrcp@netzero.net

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

June 4, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| T'was a "colloquy", silly.

It was a colloquy gone bad enough almost never to end!

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> MEB wrote:

|> | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't

|> | really an argument.

|>

|> It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for

|> either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review

|> does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

|>

|> | --

|> | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|> | --

|> | _________

|> |

|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> || MEB wrote:

|> || | NO I didn't....

|> ||

|> || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important

|> || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,

|> || anyhow! :-).

|> ||

|> || | --

|> || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|> || | --

|> || | _________

|> || |

|> || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows

|> || || | 98. Unless you make full system backups using a third-party

|> || || | app, the closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a

|> || || | Registry Backup. That would not have gotten you back online.

|> || || | Your old firewall was what kept you offline.

|> || ||

|> || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the

|> || || others! Maybe MEB said it!

|> || ||

|> || || | --

|> || || | Gary S. Terhune

|> || || | MS-MVP Shell/User

|> || || | http://www.grystmill.com

|> || || |

|> || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

|> || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> ||

|> || ...snip

|> || --

|> || Thanks or Good Luck,

|> || There may be humor in this post, and,

|> || Naturally, you will not sue,

|> || Should things get worse after this,

|> || PCR

|> || pcrrcp@netzero.net

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

June 4, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Whining about long threads... This from YOU???

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:OgZ9XadxIHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> | T'was a "colloquy", silly.

>

> It was a colloquy gone bad enough almost never to end!

>

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

> |

> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> | news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> |> MEB wrote:

> |> | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't

> |> | really an argument.

> |>

> |> It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for

> |> either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review

> |> does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

> |>

> |> | --

> |> | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> |> | --

> |> | _________

> |> |

> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> |> | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> |> || MEB wrote:

> |> || | NO I didn't....

> |> ||

> |> || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important

> |> || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,

> |> || anyhow! :-).

> |> ||

> |> || | --

> |> || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> |> || | --

> |> || | _________

> |> || |

> |> || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> |> || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> |> || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> |> || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows

> |> || || | 98. Unless you make full system backups using a third-party

> |> || || | app, the closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a

> |> || || | Registry Backup. That would not have gotten you back online.

> |> || || | Your old firewall was what kept you offline.

> |> || ||

> |> || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the

> |> || || others! Maybe MEB said it!

> |> || ||

> |> || || | --

> |> || || | Gary S. Terhune

> |> || || | MS-MVP Shell/User

> |> || || | http://www.grystmill.com

> |> || || |

> |> || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> |> || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> |> ||

> |> || ...snip

> |> || --

> |> || Thanks or Good Luck,

> |> || There may be humor in this post, and,

> |> || Naturally, you will not sue,

> |> || Should things get worse after this,

> |> || PCR

> |> || pcrrcp@netzero.net

> |>

> |> --

> |> Thanks or Good Luck,

> |> There may be humor in this post, and,

> |> Naturally, you will not sue,

> |> Should things get worse after this,

> |> PCR

> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

June 4, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| Whining about long threads... This from YOU???

:-)...!

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:OgZ9XadxIHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> | T'was a "colloquy", silly.

|>

|> It was a colloquy gone bad enough almost never to end!

|>

|> | --

|> | Gary S. Terhune

|> | MS-MVP Shell/User

|> | http://www.grystmill.com

|> |

|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> | news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> |> MEB wrote:

|> |> | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't

|> |> | really an argument.

|> |>

|> |> It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough

|> |> for either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful

|> |> review does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

|> |>

|> |> | --

|> |> | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|> |> | --

|> |> | _________

|> |> |

|> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> |> | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> |> || MEB wrote:

|> |> || | NO I didn't....

|> |> ||

|> |> || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other

|> |> || important stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add

|> |> || much more harm, anyhow! :-).

|> |> ||

|> |> || | --

|> |> || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|> |> || | --

|> |> || | _________

|> |> || |

|> |> || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> |> || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> |> || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> |> || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows

|> |> || || | 98. Unless you make full system backups using a

|> |> || || | third-party app, the closest you can get with Win98 is to

|> |> || || | restore a Registry Backup. That would not have gotten you

|> |> || || | back online. Your old firewall was what kept you offline.

|> |> || ||

|> |> || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of

|> |> || || the others! Maybe MEB said it!

|> |> || ||

|> |> || || | --

|> |> || || | Gary S. Terhune

|> |> || || | MS-MVP Shell/User

|> |> || || | http://www.grystmill.com

|> |> || || |

|> |> || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

|> |> || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

|> |> ||

|> |> || ...snip

|> |> || --

|> |> || Thanks or Good Luck,

|> |> || There may be humor in this post, and,

|> |> || Naturally, you will not sue,

|> |> || Should things get worse after this,

|> |> || PCR

|> |> || pcrrcp@netzero.net

|> |>

|> |> --

|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> |> Should things get worse after this,

|> |> PCR

|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

June 4, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Thank you Brian, that was very clear and easy.

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

news:O7eiDadxIHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Open Outlook Express.

> On the Menu bar click Tools > Accounts > News tab > Add button > News....

> Type in a name, this name is what will show in the From column to others in the

> ngs.

> Click Next.

> Type in an email address, fake (munged) is best, but be creative and try not to

> use one that may be a real email address or they may get delivered to the person

> with that address. When typing in a fake addy OE may complain, ignore the

> complaint and continue.

> Click Next.

> Type in: msnews.microsoft.com

> Click Next > Finish.

>

> If the Newsgroup icon isn't on Toolbar, Right click the Toolbar.

> Click "Customize" in the popup menu.

> Press hold down the Left mouse button on the Newsgroups icon in the Left pane.

> Drag the "Newsgroups" icon from the Left pane to Right pane and release the Left

> mouse button. If you move up/down in the Right pane before releasing the

> button, you can drop the icon in the position it will appear on the Toolbar.

> Click Close.

>

> Click the Newsgroup icon on the Toolbar.

> In the text input box Display ngs that contain type: 98 or anything else in an

> ng name. As you type, any ng name that contains what your typing will appear in

> the lower pane. Select any ng you wish to subscribe to in the lower pane and

> click the Subscribe button. When finished with your selections, click Ok.

>

> In the Folders pane on the left, Right click an ng that is listed.

> In the popup menu click "Synchronization settings". Click one of the selections

> for synchronizing that you wish to use. I use All Messages while others use

> Only New Messages, the choice is yours.

>

> Now any time you open OE and click on one of the ng's listed in the folders

> pane, the messages for that ng will be downloaded for your viewing. New posts

> and posts with new response in them will be shown in bold while old posts

> with/without responses that you have read will not be in bold. Whenever you

> read a post/response they will toggle from being bold to not being bold. Any

> post with response will show as bold if any response in the post has not been

> read.

>

> There are a few other things you'll want to do in configuring signatures,

> rules, etc. but first set up the ngs and then you can get to the rest. Since

> everyone sets there's up in their preferred way, you will/may get several

> different suggestions on how to configure them.

>

> --

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:4845c537$0$15163$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > Gary, Would you please send me the link to get my newsgroups directly from,

> > instead

> > of my ISP for the Microsoft. and I will ask in the other groups that I use how

> > to get

> > them without my ISP?

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:ei0ogNZxIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> Note that there are only five Registry backups, so be careful making new

> >> ones. Might end up with five copies of your currently bad Registry and none

> >> to restore.

> >>

> >> With all the frantic back and forth, it's difficult to say for sure what

> >> went wrong with the Avast! installation, but it was probably a combination

> >> of one or both firewalls and the WebShield. Problem was, there was other

> >> confusions that sidetracked us from focusing on the primary issues. I'm also

> >> not convinced that the problem(s) included messes left over by previous

> >> installers, specifically installers from ISPs. (Which should NEVER be

> >> installed!!! Well, almost never.)

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >>

> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> news:4844e3d7$0$15181$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >I found the printed papers. They are titled "Restore to a previous

> >> >date.txt" , a bit

> >> > of a misleading title if that isn't what it does. It says : "Windows 98

> >> > comes with a

> >> > utility called Registry Checker that backs up the registry each time you

> >> > turn your

> >> > computer on , and scans your Registry at every restart. If Registry

> >> > Checker finds a

> >> > problem with your Registry, it will automatically replace it with your

> >> > most recent

> >> > backup copy.

> >> >

> >> > To run the Registry Checker at any time:

> >> > Click the Start button. Point to Programs, Accessories and point to system

> >> > Tools

> >> > Click System Information

> >> > Click Tools from the menu bar and then click Registry Checker." run the

> >> > Registry

> >> > Checker at any time: etc. etc.

> >> >

> >> > Ginny

> >> >

> >> > To

> >> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> > news:4844de15$0$15167$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >> No "System Restore" wasn't mentioned. What was mentioned was that the

> >> >> registry

> >> > backs

> >> >> itself up every few days and that if I booted into Safe Mode and pressed

> >> >> option #5

> >> > (I

> >> >> was then given the words I should type in) and then I would be given my

> >> >> choice of a

> >> >> few dates I could back up to. (I printed it out somewhere and it is in

> >> >> the string

> >> >> somewhere). I believe it is not in words but a link I was given. Because

> >> >> at the top

> >> >> of the printed page it said "untitled", I don't remember who sent it. I

> >> >> didn't

> >> >> follow those instructions.

> >> >> And, it was my mistake in thinking these instructions would have

> >> >> restored my

> >> >> computer to the way it was back on that date. I just thought if that date

> >> >> was

> >> > before

> >> >> I put the Avast in, that the problem would have disappeared.

> >> >> I don't know why anyone would fight over it. So, kiss and make up!

> >> >> Ginny

> >> >>

> >> >> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> >> >> news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >> > MEB wrote:

> >> >> > | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't really

> >> >> > | an argument.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for

> >> >> > either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review

> >> >> > does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

> >> >> >

> >> >> > | --

> >> >> > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> >> >> > | --

> >> >> > | _________

> >> >> > |

> >> >> > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> >> >> > | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >> > || MEB wrote:

> >> >> > || | NO I didn't....

> >> >> > ||

> >> >> > || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important

> >> >> > || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,

> >> >> > || anyhow! :-).

> >> >> > ||

> >> >> > || | --

> >> >> > || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> >> >> > || | --

> >> >> > || | _________

> >> >> > || |

> >> >> > || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> >> >> > || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >> > || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >> >> > || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.

> >> >> > || || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app,

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > || || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.

> >> >> > || || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall

> >> >> > || || | was what kept you offline.

> >> >> > || ||

> >> >> > || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the

> >> >> > || || others! Maybe MEB said it!

> >> >> > || ||

> >> >> > || || | --

> >> >> > || || | Gary S. Terhune

> >> >> > || || | MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> >> > || || | http://www.grystmill.com

> >> >> > || || |

> >> >> > || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> >> > || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >> > ||

> >> >> > || ...snip

> >> >> > || --

> >> >> > || Thanks or Good Luck,

> >> >> > || There may be humor in this post, and,

> >> >> > || Naturally, you will not sue,

> >> >> > || Should things get worse after this,

> >> >> > || PCR

> >> >> > || pcrrcp@netzero.net

> >> >> >

> >> >> > --

> >> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,

> >> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,

> >> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,

> >> >> > Should things get worse after this,

> >> >> > PCR

> >> >> > pcrrcp@netzero.net

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

June 4, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

I have been told by three sources now that data from Windows 98se can not be

transferred into Windows Vista. Is this true??

They say that 98 can be imported into XP and that XP can be imported into Vista. As I

am buying a new computer and it is important that I do not lose my data, what do I

do??

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:4846f32d$0$15195$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Thank you Brian, that was very clear and easy.

>

> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

> news:O7eiDadxIHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > Open Outlook Express.

> > On the Menu bar click Tools > Accounts > News tab > Add button > News....

> > Type in a name, this name is what will show in the From column to others in the

> > ngs.

> > Click Next.

> > Type in an email address, fake (munged) is best, but be creative and try not to

> > use one that may be a real email address or they may get delivered to the person

> > with that address. When typing in a fake addy OE may complain, ignore the

> > complaint and continue.

> > Click Next.

> > Type in: msnews.microsoft.com

> > Click Next > Finish.

> >

> > If the Newsgroup icon isn't on Toolbar, Right click the Toolbar.

> > Click "Customize" in the popup menu.

> > Press hold down the Left mouse button on the Newsgroups icon in the Left pane.

> > Drag the "Newsgroups" icon from the Left pane to Right pane and release the Left

> > mouse button. If you move up/down in the Right pane before releasing the

> > button, you can drop the icon in the position it will appear on the Toolbar.

> > Click Close.

> >

> > Click the Newsgroup icon on the Toolbar.

> > In the text input box Display ngs that contain type: 98 or anything else in an

> > ng name. As you type, any ng name that contains what your typing will appear in

> > the lower pane. Select any ng you wish to subscribe to in the lower pane and

> > click the Subscribe button. When finished with your selections, click Ok.

> >

> > In the Folders pane on the left, Right click an ng that is listed.

> > In the popup menu click "Synchronization settings". Click one of the selections

> > for synchronizing that you wish to use. I use All Messages while others use

> > Only New Messages, the choice is yours.

> >

> > Now any time you open OE and click on one of the ng's listed in the folders

> > pane, the messages for that ng will be downloaded for your viewing. New posts

> > and posts with new response in them will be shown in bold while old posts

> > with/without responses that you have read will not be in bold. Whenever you

> > read a post/response they will toggle from being bold to not being bold. Any

> > post with response will show as bold if any response in the post has not been

> > read.

> >

> > There are a few other things you'll want to do in configuring signatures,

> > rules, etc. but first set up the ngs and then you can get to the rest. Since

> > everyone sets there's up in their preferred way, you will/may get several

> > different suggestions on how to configure them.

> >

> > --

> >

> > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

> > Conflicts start where information lacks.

> > http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >

> > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >

> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:4845c537$0$15163$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > > Gary, Would you please send me the link to get my newsgroups directly from,

> > > instead

> > > of my ISP for the Microsoft. and I will ask in the other groups that I use how

> > > to get

> > > them without my ISP?

> > >

> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > news:ei0ogNZxIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > >> Note that there are only five Registry backups, so be careful making new

> > >> ones. Might end up with five copies of your currently bad Registry and none

> > >> to restore.

> > >>

> > >> With all the frantic back and forth, it's difficult to say for sure what

> > >> went wrong with the Avast! installation, but it was probably a combination

> > >> of one or both firewalls and the WebShield. Problem was, there was other

> > >> confusions that sidetracked us from focusing on the primary issues. I'm also

> > >> not convinced that the problem(s) included messes left over by previous

> > >> installers, specifically installers from ISPs. (Which should NEVER be

> > >> installed!!! Well, almost never.)

> > >>

> > >> --

> > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >>

> > >> --

> > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >>

> > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> news:4844e3d7$0$15181$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> >I found the printed papers. They are titled "Restore to a previous

> > >> >date.txt" , a bit

> > >> > of a misleading title if that isn't what it does. It says : "Windows 98

> > >> > comes with a

> > >> > utility called Registry Checker that backs up the registry each time you

> > >> > turn your

> > >> > computer on , and scans your Registry at every restart. If Registry

> > >> > Checker finds a

> > >> > problem with your Registry, it will automatically replace it with your

> > >> > most recent

> > >> > backup copy.

> > >> >

> > >> > To run the Registry Checker at any time:

> > >> > Click the Start button. Point to Programs, Accessories and point to system

> > >> > Tools

> > >> > Click System Information

> > >> > Click Tools from the menu bar and then click Registry Checker." run the

> > >> > Registry

> > >> > Checker at any time: etc. etc.

> > >> >

> > >> > Ginny

> > >> >

> > >> > To

> > >> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> > news:4844de15$0$15167$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> >> No "System Restore" wasn't mentioned. What was mentioned was that the

> > >> >> registry

> > >> > backs

> > >> >> itself up every few days and that if I booted into Safe Mode and pressed

> > >> >> option #5

> > >> > (I

> > >> >> was then given the words I should type in) and then I would be given my

> > >> >> choice of a

> > >> >> few dates I could back up to. (I printed it out somewhere and it is in

> > >> >> the string

> > >> >> somewhere). I believe it is not in words but a link I was given. Because

> > >> >> at the top

> > >> >> of the printed page it said "untitled", I don't remember who sent it. I

> > >> >> didn't

> > >> >> follow those instructions.

> > >> >> And, it was my mistake in thinking these instructions would have

> > >> >> restored my

> > >> >> computer to the way it was back on that date. I just thought if that date

> > >> >> was

> > >> > before

> > >> >> I put the Avast in, that the problem would have disappeared.

> > >> >> I don't know why anyone would fight over it. So, kiss and make up!

> > >> >> Ginny

> > >> >>

> > >> >> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> > >> >> news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> >> > MEB wrote:

> > >> >> > | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't really

> > >> >> > | an argument.

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> > It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for

> > >> >> > either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review

> > >> >> > does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> > | --

> > >> >> > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > >> >> > | --

> > >> >> > | _________

> > >> >> > |

> > >> >> > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> > >> >> > | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> >> > || MEB wrote:

> > >> >> > || | NO I didn't....

> > >> >> > ||

> > >> >> > || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important

> > >> >> > || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,

> > >> >> > || anyhow! :-).

> > >> >> > ||

> > >> >> > || | --

> > >> >> > || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > >> >> > || | --

> > >> >> > || | _________

> > >> >> > || |

> > >> >> > || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> > >> >> > || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> >> > || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> > >> >> > || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.

> > >> >> > || || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app,

> > >> >> > the

> > >> >> > || || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.

> > >> >> > || || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall

> > >> >> > || || | was what kept you offline.

> > >> >> > || ||

> > >> >> > || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the

> > >> >> > || || others! Maybe MEB said it!

> > >> >> > || ||

> > >> >> > || || | --

> > >> >> > || || | Gary S. Terhune

> > >> >> > || || | MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> >> > || || | http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> >> > || || |

> > >> >> > || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> >> > || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> >> > ||

> > >> >> > || ...snip

> > >> >> > || --

> > >> >> > || Thanks or Good Luck,

> > >> >> > || There may be humor in this post, and,

> > >> >> > || Naturally, you will not sue,

> > >> >> > || Should things get worse after this,

> > >> >> > || PCR

> > >> >> > || pcrrcp@netzero.net

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> > --

> > >> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,

> > >> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,

> > >> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,

> > >> >> > Should things get worse after this,

> > >> >> > PCR

> > >> >> > pcrrcp@netzero.net

> > >> >> >

> > >> >>

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> >

>

June 4, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

I have been told by three sources now that data from Windows 98se can not be

transferred into Windows Vista. Is this true??

They say that 98 can be imported into XP and that XP can be imported into Vista. As I

am buying a new computer and it is important that I do not lose my data, what do I

do?? Ginny

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:4846f32d$0$15195$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Thank you Brian, that was very clear and easy.

>

> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

> news:O7eiDadxIHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > Open Outlook Express.

> > On the Menu bar click Tools > Accounts > News tab > Add button > News....

> > Type in a name, this name is what will show in the From column to others in the

> > ngs.

> > Click Next.

> > Type in an email address, fake (munged) is best, but be creative and try not to

> > use one that may be a real email address or they may get delivered to the person

> > with that address. When typing in a fake addy OE may complain, ignore the

> > complaint and continue.

> > Click Next.

> > Type in: msnews.microsoft.com

> > Click Next > Finish.

> >

> > If the Newsgroup icon isn't on Toolbar, Right click the Toolbar.

> > Click "Customize" in the popup menu.

> > Press hold down the Left mouse button on the Newsgroups icon in the Left pane.

> > Drag the "Newsgroups" icon from the Left pane to Right pane and release the Left

> > mouse button. If you move up/down in the Right pane before releasing the

> > button, you can drop the icon in the position it will appear on the Toolbar.

> > Click Close.

> >

> > Click the Newsgroup icon on the Toolbar.

> > In the text input box Display ngs that contain type: 98 or anything else in an

> > ng name. As you type, any ng name that contains what your typing will appear in

> > the lower pane. Select any ng you wish to subscribe to in the lower pane and

> > click the Subscribe button. When finished with your selections, click Ok.

> >

> > In the Folders pane on the left, Right click an ng that is listed.

> > In the popup menu click "Synchronization settings". Click one of the selections

> > for synchronizing that you wish to use. I use All Messages while others use

> > Only New Messages, the choice is yours.

> >

> > Now any time you open OE and click on one of the ng's listed in the folders

> > pane, the messages for that ng will be downloaded for your viewing. New posts

> > and posts with new response in them will be shown in bold while old posts

> > with/without responses that you have read will not be in bold. Whenever you

> > read a post/response they will toggle from being bold to not being bold. Any

> > post with response will show as bold if any response in the post has not been

> > read.

> >

> > There are a few other things you'll want to do in configuring signatures,

> > rules, etc. but first set up the ngs and then you can get to the rest. Since

> > everyone sets there's up in their preferred way, you will/may get several

> > different suggestions on how to configure them.

> >

> > --

> >

> > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

> > Conflicts start where information lacks.

> > http://basconotw.mvps.org/

> >

> > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >

> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:4845c537$0$15163$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > > Gary, Would you please send me the link to get my newsgroups directly from,

> > > instead

> > > of my ISP for the Microsoft. and I will ask in the other groups that I use how

> > > to get

> > > them without my ISP?

> > >

> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > news:ei0ogNZxIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > >> Note that there are only five Registry backups, so be careful making new

> > >> ones. Might end up with five copies of your currently bad Registry and none

> > >> to restore.

> > >>

> > >> With all the frantic back and forth, it's difficult to say for sure what

> > >> went wrong with the Avast! installation, but it was probably a combination

> > >> of one or both firewalls and the WebShield. Problem was, there was other

> > >> confusions that sidetracked us from focusing on the primary issues. I'm also

> > >> not convinced that the problem(s) included messes left over by previous

> > >> installers, specifically installers from ISPs. (Which should NEVER be

> > >> installed!!! Well, almost never.)

> > >>

> > >> --

> > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >>

> > >> --

> > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >>

> > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> news:4844e3d7$0$15181$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> >I found the printed papers. They are titled "Restore to a previous

> > >> >date.txt" , a bit

> > >> > of a misleading title if that isn't what it does. It says : "Windows 98

> > >> > comes with a

> > >> > utility called Registry Checker that backs up the registry each time you

> > >> > turn your

> > >> > computer on , and scans your Registry at every restart. If Registry

> > >> > Checker finds a

> > >> > problem with your Registry, it will automatically replace it with your

> > >> > most recent

> > >> > backup copy.

> > >> >

> > >> > To run the Registry Checker at any time:

> > >> > Click the Start button. Point to Programs, Accessories and point to system

> > >> > Tools

> > >> > Click System Information

> > >> > Click Tools from the menu bar and then click Registry Checker." run the

> > >> > Registry

> > >> > Checker at any time: etc. etc.

> > >> >

> > >> > Ginny

> > >> >

> > >> > To

> > >> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> > news:4844de15$0$15167$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> >> No "System Restore" wasn't mentioned. What was mentioned was that the

> > >> >> registry

> > >> > backs

> > >> >> itself up every few days and that if I booted into Safe Mode and pressed

> > >> >> option #5

> > >> > (I

> > >> >> was then given the words I should type in) and then I would be given my

> > >> >> choice of a

> > >> >> few dates I could back up to. (I printed it out somewhere and it is in

> > >> >> the string

> > >> >> somewhere). I believe it is not in words but a link I was given. Because

> > >> >> at the top

> > >> >> of the printed page it said "untitled", I don't remember who sent it. I

> > >> >> didn't

> > >> >> follow those instructions.

> > >> >> And, it was my mistake in thinking these instructions would have

> > >> >> restored my

> > >> >> computer to the way it was back on that date. I just thought if that date

> > >> >> was

> > >> > before

> > >> >> I put the Avast in, that the problem would have disappeared.

> > >> >> I don't know why anyone would fight over it. So, kiss and make up!

> > >> >> Ginny

> > >> >>

> > >> >> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> > >> >> news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> >> > MEB wrote:

> > >> >> > | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't really

> > >> >> > | an argument.

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> > It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for

> > >> >> > either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review

> > >> >> > does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> > | --

> > >> >> > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > >> >> > | --

> > >> >> > | _________

> > >> >> > |

> > >> >> > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> > >> >> > | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> >> > || MEB wrote:

> > >> >> > || | NO I didn't....

> > >> >> > ||

> > >> >> > || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important

> > >> >> > || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,

> > >> >> > || anyhow! :-).

> > >> >> > ||

> > >> >> > || | --

> > >> >> > || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > >> >> > || | --

> > >> >> > || | _________

> > >> >> > || |

> > >> >> > || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> > >> >> > || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> >> > || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> > >> >> > || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.

> > >> >> > || || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app,

> > >> >> > the

> > >> >> > || || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.

> > >> >> > || || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall

> > >> >> > || || | was what kept you offline.

> > >> >> > || ||

> > >> >> > || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the

> > >> >> > || || others! Maybe MEB said it!

> > >> >> > || ||

> > >> >> > || || | --

> > >> >> > || || | Gary S. Terhune

> > >> >> > || || | MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> >> > || || | http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> >> > || || |

> > >> >> > || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> >> > || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> >> > ||

> > >> >> > || ...snip

> > >> >> > || --

> > >> >> > || Thanks or Good Luck,

> > >> >> > || There may be humor in this post, and,

> > >> >> > || Naturally, you will not sue,

> > >> >> > || Should things get worse after this,

> > >> >> > || PCR

> > >> >> > || pcrrcp@netzero.net

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> > --

> > >> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,

> > >> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,

> > >> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,

> > >> >> > Should things get worse after this,

> > >> >> > PCR

> > >> >> > pcrrcp@netzero.net

> > >> >> >

> > >> >>

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> >

>

June 4, 2008

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Though I've already explained it to you, I'll do it here again for the

record: Those people are idiots. What they MEAN to say is that their quick

and simple programs that *supposedly* make these transfers easy aren't

written for transferring between 98 and Vista. That's true, but those

transfer programs don't work for most people most of the time, anyway. They

always miss something, and it's always that irreplaceable thing you REALLY

wanted to save, like the only remaining copy of your wedding photo, or

whatever. IOW, even if the idiots DID say it was possible, I wouldn't trust

them to do it. Look what happened with the last guy who tried to do that for

you.

It is CERTAINLY possible to get your personal files, OE messages, and most

other things transferred easily. Especially since you already have a

network. There might be a few things that need setting up anew (like email

accounts -- but maybe that's easy, too.)

Yes, you'll need someone who actually knows what they're doing to do it for

you, who actually knows more than you do, for instance, to guide you through

it or to do it for you, but you gotta stop listening to the idiot

salespeople and rumor-mongers in the Dell forums or what have you. They're

the LAST people to know anything. Go ask in the Vista forums (or XP forums)

and have a LOT of patience.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:4846f681$0$15201$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>I have been told by three sources now that data from Windows 98se can not

>be

> transferred into Windows Vista. Is this true??

> They say that 98 can be imported into XP and that XP can be imported into

> Vista. As I

> am buying a new computer and it is important that I do not lose my data,

> what do I

> do??

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:4846f32d$0$15195$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> Thank you Brian, that was very clear and easy.

>>

>> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

>> news:O7eiDadxIHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > Open Outlook Express.

>> > On the Menu bar click Tools > Accounts > News tab > Add button >

>> > News....

>> > Type in a name, this name is what will show in the From column to

>> > others in the

>> > ngs.

>> > Click Next.

>> > Type in an email address, fake (munged) is best, but be creative and

>> > try not to

>> > use one that may be a real email address or they may get delivered to

>> > the person

>> > with that address. When typing in a fake addy OE may complain, ignore

>> > the

>> > complaint and continue.

>> > Click Next.

>> > Type in: msnews.microsoft.com

>> > Click Next > Finish.

>> >

>> > If the Newsgroup icon isn't on Toolbar, Right click the Toolbar.

>> > Click "Customize" in the popup menu.

>> > Press hold down the Left mouse button on the Newsgroups icon in the

>> > Left pane.

>> > Drag the "Newsgroups" icon from the Left pane to Right pane and release

>> > the Left

>> > mouse button. If you move up/down in the Right pane before releasing

>> > the

>> > button, you can drop the icon in the position it will appear on the

>> > Toolbar.

>> > Click Close.

>> >

>> > Click the Newsgroup icon on the Toolbar.

>> > In the text input box Display ngs that contain type: 98 or anything

>> > else in an

>> > ng name. As you type, any ng name that contains what your typing will

>> > appear in

>> > the lower pane. Select any ng you wish to subscribe to in the lower

>> > pane and

>> > click the Subscribe button. When finished with your selections, click

>> > Ok.

>> >

>> > In the Folders pane on the left, Right click an ng that is listed.

>> > In the popup menu click "Synchronization settings". Click one of the

>> > selections

>> > for synchronizing that you wish to use. I use All Messages while

>> > others use

>> > Only New Messages, the choice is yours.

>> >

>> > Now any time you open OE and click on one of the ng's listed in the

>> > folders

>> > pane, the messages for that ng will be downloaded for your viewing.

>> > New posts

>> > and posts with new response in them will be shown in bold while old

>> > posts

>> > with/without responses that you have read will not be in bold.

>> > Whenever you

>> > read a post/response they will toggle from being bold to not being

>> > bold. Any

>> > post with response will show as bold if any response in the post has

>> > not been

>> > read.

>> >

>> > There are a few other things you'll want to do in configuring

>> > signatures,

>> > rules, etc. but first set up the ngs and then you can get to the rest.

>> > Since

>> > everyone sets there's up in their preferred way, you will/may get

>> > several

>> > different suggestions on how to configure them.

>> >

>> > --

>> >

>> > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

>> > Conflicts start where information lacks.

>> > http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>> >

>> > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

>> > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >

>> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > news:4845c537$0$15163$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > > Gary, Would you please send me the link to get my newsgroups directly

>> > > from,

>> > > instead

>> > > of my ISP for the Microsoft. and I will ask in the other groups that

>> > > I use how

>> > > to get

>> > > them without my ISP?

>> > >

>> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > > news:ei0ogNZxIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> > >> Note that there are only five Registry backups, so be careful making

>> > >> new

>> > >> ones. Might end up with five copies of your currently bad Registry

>> > >> and none

>> > >> to restore.

>> > >>

>> > >> With all the frantic back and forth, it's difficult to say for sure

>> > >> what

>> > >> went wrong with the Avast! installation, but it was probably a

>> > >> combination

>> > >> of one or both firewalls and the WebShield. Problem was, there was

>> > >> other

>> > >> confusions that sidetracked us from focusing on the primary issues.

>> > >> I'm also

>> > >> not convinced that the problem(s) included messes left over by

>> > >> previous

>> > >> installers, specifically installers from ISPs. (Which should NEVER

>> > >> be

>> > >> installed!!! Well, almost never.)

>> > >>

>> > >> --

>> > >> Gary S. Terhune

>> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > >>

>> > >> --

>> > >> Gary S. Terhune

>> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > >>

>> > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > >> news:4844e3d7$0$15181$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > >> >I found the printed papers. They are titled "Restore to a previous

>> > >> >date.txt" , a bit

>> > >> > of a misleading title if that isn't what it does. It says :

>> > >> > "Windows 98

>> > >> > comes with a

>> > >> > utility called Registry Checker that backs up the registry each

>> > >> > time you

>> > >> > turn your

>> > >> > computer on , and scans your Registry at every restart. If

>> > >> > Registry

>> > >> > Checker finds a

>> > >> > problem with your Registry, it will automatically replace it with

>> > >> > your

>> > >> > most recent

>> > >> > backup copy.

>> > >> >

>> > >> > To run the Registry Checker at any time:

>> > >> > Click the Start button. Point to Programs, Accessories and point

>> > >> > to system

>> > >> > Tools

>> > >> > Click System Information

>> > >> > Click Tools from the menu bar and then click Registry Checker."

>> > >> > run the

>> > >> > Registry

>> > >> > Checker at any time: etc. etc.

>> > >> >

>> > >> > Ginny

>> > >> >

>> > >> > To

>> > >> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > >> > news:4844de15$0$15167$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > >> >> No "System Restore" wasn't mentioned. What was mentioned was that

>> > >> >> the

>> > >> >> registry

>> > >> > backs

>> > >> >> itself up every few days and that if I booted into Safe Mode and

>> > >> >> pressed

>> > >> >> option #5

>> > >> > (I

>> > >> >> was then given the words I should type in) and then I would be

>> > >> >> given my

>> > >> >> choice of a

>> > >> >> few dates I could back up to. (I printed it out somewhere and it

>> > >> >> is in

>> > >> >> the string

>> > >> >> somewhere). I believe it is not in words but a link I was given.

>> > >> >> Because

>> > >> >> at the top

>> > >> >> of the printed page it said "untitled", I don't remember who

>> > >> >> sent it. I

>> > >> >> didn't

>> > >> >> follow those instructions.

>> > >> >> And, it was my mistake in thinking these instructions would

>> > >> >> have

>> > >> >> restored my

>> > >> >> computer to the way it was back on that date. I just thought if

>> > >> >> that date

>> > >> >> was

>> > >> > before

>> > >> >> I put the Avast in, that the problem would have disappeared.

>> > >> >> I don't know why anyone would fight over it. So, kiss and make

>> > >> >> up!

>> > >> >> Ginny

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> > >> >> news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > >> >> > MEB wrote:

>> > >> >> > | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it

>> > >> >> > wasn't really

>> > >> >> > | an argument.

>> > >> >> >

>> > >> >> > It had significant similarities to an argument & was long

>> > >> >> > enough for

>> > >> >> > either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful

>> > >> >> > review

>> > >> >> > does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

>> > >> >> >

>> > >> >> > | --

>> > >> >> > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> > >> >> > | --

>> > >> >> > | _________

>> > >> >> > |

>> > >> >> > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> > >> >> > | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > >> >> > || MEB wrote:

>> > >> >> > || | NO I didn't....

>> > >> >> > ||

>> > >> >> > || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other

>> > >> >> > important

>> > >> >> > || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more

>> > >> >> > harm,

>> > >> >> > || anyhow! :-).

>> > >> >> > ||

>> > >> >> > || | --

>> > >> >> > || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> > >> >> > || | --

>> > >> >> > || | _________

>> > >> >> > || |

>> > >> >> > || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> > >> >> > || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > >> >> > || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> > >> >> > || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in

>> > >> >> > Windows 98.

>> > >> >> > || || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party

>> > >> >> > app,

>> > >> >> > the

>> > >> >> > || || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry

>> > >> >> > Backup.

>> > >> >> > || || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old

>> > >> >> > firewall

>> > >> >> > || || | was what kept you offline.

>> > >> >> > || ||

>> > >> >> > || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any

>> > >> >> > of the

>> > >> >> > || || others! Maybe MEB said it!

>> > >> >> > || ||

>> > >> >> > || || | --

>> > >> >> > || || | Gary S. Terhune

>> > >> >> > || || | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > >> >> > || || | http://www.grystmill.com

>> > >> >> > || || |

>> > >> >> > || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > >> >> > || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > >> >> > ||

>> > >> >> > || ...snip

>> > >> >> > || --

>> > >> >> > || Thanks or Good Luck,

>> > >> >> > || There may be humor in this post, and,

>> > >> >> > || Naturally, you will not sue,

>> > >> >> > || Should things get worse after this,

>> > >> >> > || PCR

>> > >> >> > || pcrrcp@netzero.net

>> > >> >> >

>> > >> >> > --

>> > >> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,

>> > >> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,

>> > >> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,

>> > >> >> > Should things get worse after this,

>> > >> >> > PCR

>> > >> >> > pcrrcp@netzero.net

>> > >> >> >

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >

>> > >>

>> > >

>> >

>>

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