Guest rpgs rock dvds Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally stops. Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.
Guest RJK Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm regards, Richard "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally stops. > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.
Guest rpgs rock dvds Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote: > http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm > > regards, Richard > > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When > > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now > > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact > > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU > > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have > > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally stops. > > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down > > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. > > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. Inside BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something.
Guest Mart Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 > However, when the power does stop, I still hear > a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something. A mechanical 'squeak' - noisy (wearing) fan bearing, as it slows and stops perhaps? Might only need a drop of light machine oil. You'll have to open the case to determine exactly from where the noise is coming then decide a course of action. Mart "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:7457c9c7-9296-414d-9939-dde23412336a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote: > http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm > > regards, Richard > > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in > messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When > > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now > > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact > > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU > > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have > > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally stops. > > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down > > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. > > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide quoted > > text - > > - Show quoted text - Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. Inside BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 Or a speaker squeek? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:O4B3B6NvIHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> However, when the power does stop, I still hear >> a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something. > > A mechanical 'squeak' - noisy (wearing) fan bearing, as it slows and > stops perhaps? Might only need a drop of light machine oil. > > You'll have to open the case to determine exactly from where the noise is > coming then decide a course of action. > > Mart > > > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:7457c9c7-9296-414d-9939-dde23412336a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm >> >> regards, Richard >> >> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in >> messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When >> > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now >> > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact >> > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU >> > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have >> > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally stops. >> >> > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down >> > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. >> >> > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide quoted >> > text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. Inside > BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power > stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek > like a gerbil's in pain or something. >
Guest rpgs rock dvds Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 On 23 May, 15:08, "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote: > > However, when the power does stop, I still hear > > a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something. > > A mechanical 'squeak' - noisy (wearing) fan bearing, as it slows and stops > perhaps? Might only need a drop of light machine oil. > > You'll have to open the case to determine exactly from where the noise is > coming then decide a course of action. > > Mart > > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in messagenews:7457c9c7-9296-414d-9939-dde23412336a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm > > > regards, Richard > > > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in > > messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When > > > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now > > > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact > > > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU > > > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have > > > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally stops. > > > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down > > > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. > > > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide quoted > > > text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. Inside > BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power > stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek > like a gerbil's in pain or something.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. It's quite a loud and sudden noise. I will at some stage change it as it's too loud when in normal operation anyway. >>Or a speaker squeek? There is no speaker attached to this mobo or case ATM.
Guest Mart Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 Yes Gary and Robert, I did wonder about the speaker - but on shutdown? Usually at POST. However, > I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. Needs very urgent attention! In spite of rising oil costs ($135 a barrel?) one drop would be a lot cheaper than a new cpu <g> Mart "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:15d889a2-5e00-4fd5-ae3e-f50742524486@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... On 23 May, 15:08, "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote: > > However, when the power does stop, I still hear > > a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something. > > A mechanical 'squeak' - noisy (wearing) fan bearing, as it slows and stops > perhaps? Might only need a drop of light machine oil. > > You'll have to open the case to determine exactly from where the noise is > coming then decide a course of action. > > Mart > > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in > messagenews:7457c9c7-9296-414d-9939-dde23412336a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm > > > regards, Richard > > > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in > > messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When > > > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now > > > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact > > > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU > > > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have > > > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally stops. > > > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down > > > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. > > > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide quoted > > > text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. Inside > BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power > stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek > like a gerbil's in pain or something.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. It's quite a loud and sudden noise. I will at some stage change it as it's too loud when in normal operation anyway. >>Or a speaker squeek? There is no speaker attached to this mobo or case ATM.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 If you have a fan going bad, change it NOW! Especially a CPU fan! Do you think that thing will work perfectly, despite the noise, and keep your CPU within acceptable temp ranges? From what you describe, it sounds like it's at about 1/2 efficiency now. If you wait until it quits, you're going to be replacing the CPU, also. In any case, any fan that's going on the blink is a source of power variations that might affect other components. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:15d889a2-5e00-4fd5-ae3e-f50742524486@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... On 23 May, 15:08, "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote: > > However, when the power does stop, I still hear > > a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something. > > A mechanical 'squeak' - noisy (wearing) fan bearing, as it slows and stops > perhaps? Might only need a drop of light machine oil. > > You'll have to open the case to determine exactly from where the noise is > coming then decide a course of action. > > Mart > > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in > messagenews:7457c9c7-9296-414d-9939-dde23412336a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm > > > regards, Richard > > > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in > > messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When > > > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now > > > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact > > > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU > > > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have > > > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally stops. > > > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down > > > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. > > > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide quoted > > > text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. Inside > BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power > stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek > like a gerbil's in pain or something.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. It's quite a loud and sudden noise. I will at some stage change it as it's too loud when in normal operation anyway. >>Or a speaker squeek? There is no speaker attached to this mobo or case ATM.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 You're saying to oil the fan? No, the thing to do is to replace it. Don't want no stinkin' oil spraying around inside a computer case. Besides, it would immediately start collecting dust like mad. Not good for a cooling system. In any case, if it's making a ton of noise now, it's shot, and oil would only help for a few minutes. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:OdJmJAPvIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Yes Gary and Robert, I did wonder about the speaker - but on shutdown? > Usually at POST. > > However, > >> I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. > > Needs very urgent attention! In spite of rising oil costs ($135 a > barrel?) one drop would be a lot cheaper than a new cpu <g> > > Mart > > > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:15d889a2-5e00-4fd5-ae3e-f50742524486@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > On 23 May, 15:08, "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote: >> > However, when the power does stop, I still hear >> > a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something. >> >> A mechanical 'squeak' - noisy (wearing) fan bearing, as it slows and >> stops >> perhaps? Might only need a drop of light machine oil. >> >> You'll have to open the case to determine exactly from where the noise is >> coming then decide a course of action. >> >> Mart >> >> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in >> messagenews:7457c9c7-9296-414d-9939-dde23412336a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >> On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm >> >> > regards, Richard >> >> > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in >> > messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> >> > >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When >> > > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now >> > > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact >> > > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU >> > > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have >> > > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally >> > > stops. >> >> > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down >> > > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. >> >> > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide quoted >> > > text - >> >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. Inside >> BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power >> stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek >> like a gerbil's in pain or something.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. It's > quite a loud and sudden noise. I will at some stage change it as it's > too loud when in normal operation anyway. > >>>Or a speaker squeek? > > There is no speaker attached to this mobo or case ATM. >
Guest Mart Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 Although I certainly wouldn't disagree with your suggestion of changing the fan which is THE ONLY long term solution, it's the shorter term (like now!) I was concerned about. A careful application - and you don't have to be an instrument mechanic - of one drop of oil on each bearing (not the fan blades!) would be far safer than letting the thing scream itself to death - and take the cpu with it. Or better still, turn the machine off until a replacement fan can be obtained (or fitted by a technician). Mart "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:uP1drIPvIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > You're saying to oil the fan? No, the thing to do is to replace it. Don't > want no stinkin' oil spraying around inside a computer case. Besides, it > would immediately start collecting dust like mad. Not good for a cooling > system. > > In any case, if it's making a ton of noise now, it's shot, and oil would > only help for a few minutes. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > news:OdJmJAPvIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Yes Gary and Robert, I did wonder about the speaker - but on shutdown? >> Usually at POST. >> >> However, >> >>> I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. >> >> Needs very urgent attention! In spite of rising oil costs ($135 a >> barrel?) one drop would be a lot cheaper than a new cpu <g> >> >> Mart >> >> >> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:15d889a2-5e00-4fd5-ae3e-f50742524486@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> On 23 May, 15:08, "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote: >>> > However, when the power does stop, I still hear >>> > a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something. >>> >>> A mechanical 'squeak' - noisy (wearing) fan bearing, as it slows and >>> stops >>> perhaps? Might only need a drop of light machine oil. >>> >>> You'll have to open the case to determine exactly from where the noise >>> is >>> coming then decide a course of action. >>> >>> Mart >>> >>> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in >>> messagenews:7457c9c7-9296-414d-9939-dde23412336a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >>> On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm >>> >>> > regards, Richard >>> >>> > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in >>> > messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> > >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When >>> > > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now >>> > > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact >>> > > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU >>> > > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I >>> > > have >>> > > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally >>> > > stops. >>> >>> > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down >>> > > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. >>> >>> > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide quoted >>> > > text - >>> >>> > - Show quoted text - >>> >>> Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. Inside >>> BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power >>> stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek >>> like a gerbil's in pain or something.- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. It's >> quite a loud and sudden noise. I will at some stage change it as it's >> too loud when in normal operation anyway. >> >>>>Or a speaker squeek? >> >> There is no speaker attached to this mobo or case ATM. >> >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 Have you ever actually done such a thing? I just went and looked at my dozens of dead fans and my stock of replacement fans, and only in the highest end fans (Thermaltake) did I even find anywhere to put any oil (yes, I lifted the labels.) But here was my initial logic: Just can't see even getting an oil dispenser anywhere near the insides of a computer case. The chances of disaster are just too great. So the next thing would be to remove the fan first... Your last sentence was the correct one. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:uTTZPlQvIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Although I certainly wouldn't disagree with your suggestion of changing > the fan which is THE ONLY long term solution, it's the shorter term (like > now!) I was concerned about. A careful application - and you don't have to > be an instrument mechanic - of one drop of oil on each bearing (not the > fan blades!) would be far safer than letting the thing scream itself to > death - and take the cpu with it. Or better still, turn the machine off > until a replacement fan can be obtained (or fitted by a technician). > > Mart > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:uP1drIPvIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> You're saying to oil the fan? No, the thing to do is to replace it. Don't >> want no stinkin' oil spraying around inside a computer case. Besides, it >> would immediately start collecting dust like mad. Not good for a cooling >> system. >> >> In any case, if it's making a ton of noise now, it's shot, and oil would >> only help for a few minutes. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >> news:OdJmJAPvIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Yes Gary and Robert, I did wonder about the speaker - but on shutdown? >>> Usually at POST. >>> >>> However, >>> >>>> I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. >>> >>> Needs very urgent attention! In spite of rising oil costs ($135 a >>> barrel?) one drop would be a lot cheaper than a new cpu <g> >>> >>> Mart >>> >>> >>> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:15d889a2-5e00-4fd5-ae3e-f50742524486@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>> On 23 May, 15:08, "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote: >>>> > However, when the power does stop, I still hear >>>> > a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something. >>>> >>>> A mechanical 'squeak' - noisy (wearing) fan bearing, as it slows and >>>> stops >>>> perhaps? Might only need a drop of light machine oil. >>>> >>>> You'll have to open the case to determine exactly from where the noise >>>> is >>>> coming then decide a course of action. >>>> >>>> Mart >>>> >>>> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in >>>> messagenews:7457c9c7-9296-414d-9939-dde23412336a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >>>> On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm >>>> >>>> > regards, Richard >>>> >>>> > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in >>>> > messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> > >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. >>>> > >When >>>> > > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now >>>> > > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact >>>> > > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU >>>> > > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I >>>> > > have >>>> > > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally >>>> > > stops. >>>> >>>> > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down >>>> > > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. >>>> >>>> > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide quoted >>>> > > text - >>>> >>>> > - Show quoted text - >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. Inside >>>> BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power >>>> stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek >>>> like a gerbil's in pain or something.- Hide quoted text - >>>> >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. It's >>> quite a loud and sudden noise. I will at some stage change it as it's >>> too loud when in normal operation anyway. >>> >>>>>Or a speaker squeek? >>> >>> There is no speaker attached to this mobo or case ATM. >>> >> > >
Guest MEB Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 Actually Gary, I do the fan oiling as part of yearly or sooner maintenance on the systems which I service or serviced. At that time I also replace the heatsink compounds and other that also may decay. Its also done on *any* box which I work on. Looking under the label, one generally finds what looks like a washer around the fan stub/spindle. Its actually a split fiber ring which can be *carefully* spread [making sure it doesn't fly off to oblivion its so small], then light 10 weight oil [sewing machine or other] is applied to the oilite bushes and the fan blades cleaned then re-assembled. While the heat sink [talking CPU or other removable] is removed, I clean that with alcohol or other light solvent, re-assembly everything using something like Arctic Silver to replace the heat sink compound, and its good for another year [or less in a hostile environment like smoking or industrial].. While the case is open, I use a sweeper hosed extension [not overly close to the area] and a mascara brush to clean the dust from the board, air supply openings, power supply, and other. I also wiggle the installed adapter cards and memory modules carefully to re-set them [corrosion loss prevention] and check everything after done, like the cabling, power connections, etc... Its called preventive maintenance [grin].. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:OdihyvQvIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... | Have you ever actually done such a thing? I just went and looked at my | dozens of dead fans and my stock of replacement fans, and only in the | highest end fans (Thermaltake) did I even find anywhere to put any oil (yes, | I lifted the labels.) | | But here was my initial logic: | Just can't see even getting an oil dispenser anywhere near the insides of a | computer case. The chances of disaster are just too great. So the next thing | would be to remove the fan first... Your last sentence was the correct one. | | -- | Gary S. Terhune | MS-MVP Shell/User | http://www.grystmill.com | | "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message | news:uTTZPlQvIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | > Although I certainly wouldn't disagree with your suggestion of changing | > the fan which is THE ONLY long term solution, it's the shorter term (like | > now!) I was concerned about. A careful application - and you don't have to | > be an instrument mechanic - of one drop of oil on each bearing (not the | > fan blades!) would be far safer than letting the thing scream itself to | > death - and take the cpu with it. Or better still, turn the machine off | > until a replacement fan can be obtained (or fitted by a technician). | > | > Mart | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message | > news:uP1drIPvIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | >> You're saying to oil the fan? No, the thing to do is to replace it. Don't | >> want no stinkin' oil spraying around inside a computer case. Besides, it | >> would immediately start collecting dust like mad. Not good for a cooling | >> system. | >> | >> In any case, if it's making a ton of noise now, it's shot, and oil would | >> only help for a few minutes. | >> | >> -- | >> Gary S. Terhune | >> MS-MVP Shell/User | >> http://www.grystmill.com | >> | >> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message | >> news:OdJmJAPvIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | >>> Yes Gary and Robert, I did wonder about the speaker - but on shutdown? | >>> Usually at POST. | >>> | >>> However, | >>> | >>>> I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. | >>> | >>> Needs very urgent attention! In spite of rising oil costs ($135 a | >>> barrel?) one drop would be a lot cheaper than a new cpu <g> | >>> | >>> Mart | >>> | >>> | >>> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message | >>> news:15d889a2-5e00-4fd5-ae3e-f50742524486@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... | >>> On 23 May, 15:08, "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote: | >>>> > However, when the power does stop, I still hear | >>>> > a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something. | >>>> | >>>> A mechanical 'squeak' - noisy (wearing) fan bearing, as it slows and | >>>> stops | >>>> perhaps? Might only need a drop of light machine oil. | >>>> | >>>> You'll have to open the case to determine exactly from where the noise | >>>> is | >>>> coming then decide a course of action. | >>>> | >>>> Mart | >>>> | >>>> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in | >>>> messagenews:7457c9c7-9296-414d-9939-dde23412336a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com .... | >>>> On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote: | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> >http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm | >>>> | >>>> > regards, Richard | >>>> | >>>> > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in | >>>> > messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.co m... | >>>> | >>>> > >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. | >>>> > >When | >>>> > > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now | >>>> > > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact | >>>> > > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU | >>>> > > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I | >>>> > > have | >>>> > > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally | >>>> > > stops. | >>>> | >>>> > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down | >>>> > > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. | >>>> | >>>> > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide quoted | >>>> > > text - | >>>> | >>>> > - Show quoted text - | >>>> | >>>> Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. Inside | >>>> BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power | >>>> stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek | >>>> like a gerbil's in pain or something.- Hide quoted text - | >>>> | >>>> - Show quoted text - | >>> | >>> I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. It's | >>> quite a loud and sudden noise. I will at some stage change it as it's | >>> too loud when in normal operation anyway. | >>> | >>>>>Or a speaker squeek? | >>> | >>> There is no speaker attached to this mobo or case ATM. | >>> | >> | > | > |
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 As I said, I found that some can be oiled and some can't. Regardless, the fan in discussion is shot and needs replacing. Preferably with a high-quality replacement, not a cheap sleeve-bearing POS. I also practice maintenance, but I'm not recommending it to anyone at the consumer level. Especially when dealing with heatsinks and grease and CPUs and their pins. They either already know what they're doing, and know the risks they're taking, or they don't. And while I, too, use the exhaust from a vacuum cleaner to blow out the case, we're both fools to do so and you know it, or should. I don't know about elsewhere, but the consumer-level economics here are such that it's more cost effective to run a machine until it dies, then get a new one. Unless you're doing the labor yourself, "maintenance" costs quickly eat up any other savings. Only if the owner were ready to buy a new machine, anyway, and wants to have a "learning experience", would I even approach the subject. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:enbQF$QvIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Actually Gary, I do the fan oiling as part of yearly or sooner maintenance > on the systems which I service or serviced. At that time I also replace > the > heatsink compounds and other that also may decay. Its also done on *any* > box > which I work on. > > Looking under the label, one generally finds what looks like a washer > around the fan stub/spindle. Its actually a split fiber ring which can be > *carefully* spread [making sure it doesn't fly off to oblivion its so > small], then light 10 weight oil [sewing machine or other] is applied to > the > oilite bushes and the fan blades cleaned then re-assembled. While the heat > sink [talking CPU or other removable] is removed, I clean that with > alcohol > or other light solvent, re-assembly everything using something like Arctic > Silver to replace the heat sink compound, and its good for another year > [or > less in a hostile environment like smoking or industrial].. > > While the case is open, I use a sweeper hosed extension [not overly close > to the area] and a mascara brush to clean the dust from the board, air > supply openings, power supply, and other. I also wiggle the installed > adapter cards and memory modules carefully to re-set them [corrosion loss > prevention] and check everything after done, like the cabling, power > connections, etc... > > Its called preventive maintenance [grin].. > > -- > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > -- > _________ > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:OdihyvQvIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > | Have you ever actually done such a thing? I just went and looked at my > | dozens of dead fans and my stock of replacement fans, and only in the > | highest end fans (Thermaltake) did I even find anywhere to put any oil > (yes, > | I lifted the labels.) > | > | But here was my initial logic: > | Just can't see even getting an oil dispenser anywhere near the insides > of > a > | computer case. The chances of disaster are just too great. So the next > thing > | would be to remove the fan first... Your last sentence was the correct > one. > | > | -- > | Gary S. Terhune > | MS-MVP Shell/User > | http://www.grystmill.com > | > | "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > | news:uTTZPlQvIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | > Although I certainly wouldn't disagree with your suggestion of > changing > | > the fan which is THE ONLY long term solution, it's the shorter term > (like > | > now!) I was concerned about. A careful application - and you don't > have > to > | > be an instrument mechanic - of one drop of oil on each bearing (not > the > | > fan blades!) would be far safer than letting the thing scream itself > to > | > death - and take the cpu with it. Or better still, turn the machine > off > | > until a replacement fan can be obtained (or fitted by a technician). > | > > | > Mart > | > > | > > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > | > news:uP1drIPvIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > | >> You're saying to oil the fan? No, the thing to do is to replace it. > Don't > | >> want no stinkin' oil spraying around inside a computer case. Besides, > it > | >> would immediately start collecting dust like mad. Not good for a > cooling > | >> system. > | >> > | >> In any case, if it's making a ton of noise now, it's shot, and oil > would > | >> only help for a few minutes. > | >> > | >> -- > | >> Gary S. Terhune > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User > | >> http://www.grystmill.com > | >> > | >> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > | >> news:OdJmJAPvIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | >>> Yes Gary and Robert, I did wonder about the speaker - but on > shutdown? > | >>> Usually at POST. > | >>> > | >>> However, > | >>> > | >>>> I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. > | >>> > | >>> Needs very urgent attention! In spite of rising oil costs ($135 a > | >>> barrel?) one drop would be a lot cheaper than a new cpu <g> > | >>> > | >>> Mart > | >>> > | >>> > | >>> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > | >>> > news:15d889a2-5e00-4fd5-ae3e-f50742524486@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > | >>> On 23 May, 15:08, "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote: > | >>>> > However, when the power does stop, I still hear > | >>>> > a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something. > | >>>> > | >>>> A mechanical 'squeak' - noisy (wearing) fan bearing, as it slows > and > | >>>> stops > | >>>> perhaps? Might only need a drop of light machine oil. > | >>>> > | >>>> You'll have to open the case to determine exactly from where the > noise > | >>>> is > | >>>> coming then decide a course of action. > | >>>> > | >>>> Mart > | >>>> > | >>>> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in > | >>>> > messagenews:7457c9c7-9296-414d-9939-dde23412336a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com > ... > | >>>> On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote: > | >>>> > | >>>> > | >>>> > | >>>> > | >>>> > | >>>> >http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm > | >>>> > | >>>> > regards, Richard > | >>>> > | >>>> > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in > | >>>> > > messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.co > m... > | >>>> > | >>>> > >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. > | >>>> > >When > | >>>> > > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's > now > | >>>> > > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the > exact > | >>>> > > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the > PSU > | >>>> > > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if > I > | >>>> > > have > | >>>> > > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally > | >>>> > > stops. > | >>>> > | >>>> > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut > down > | >>>> > > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. > | >>>> > | >>>> > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide > quoted > | >>>> > > text - > | >>>> > | >>>> > - Show quoted text - > | >>>> > | >>>> Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. > Inside > | >>>> BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power > | >>>> stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek > | >>>> like a gerbil's in pain or something.- Hide quoted text - > | >>>> > | >>>> - Show quoted text - > | >>> > | >>> I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. It's > | >>> quite a loud and sudden noise. I will at some stage change it as > it's > | >>> too loud when in normal operation anyway. > | >>> > | >>>>>Or a speaker squeek? > | >>> > | >>> There is no speaker attached to this mobo or case ATM. > | >>> > | >> > | > > | > > | > >
Guest rpgs rock dvds Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 On 23 May, 13:11, rpgs rock dvds <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally stops. > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert. Thanks very much for everyone's replies. I have successfully changed the fan for a good one, but very interestingly the squeek noise when I power off still persists. It's definitely not the fan. Perhaps there *is* a speaker on this mobo? (I'm sorry, my ignorance in this matter doesn't help -- what do mobo speakers look like -- there is some kind of black plastic barrel shapped object about 1cm in diameter and about 1.5cm tall.) I also notice on this Supermicro P6SBU motherboard, there's something called a SCSI terminator enable jumper next to a green lit LED. Is this power off noise some kind of warning perhaps that power has been lost to a vital component? I'm very pleased with the fan change though. My CPU temp is 32c, down a few degrees, but it's almost soundless. It's a 120cm case fan pushed up against a Pentium 3 slot 1 heatsink, running at 850rpm. Looks a bit odd, but seems to do the job. Best regards, Robert.
Guest Brian A. Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:5ac2bcba-2260-49ce-bb14-318993c4fcc9@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... On 23 May, 13:11, rpgs rock dvds <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally stops. > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert. Thanks very much for everyone's replies. I have successfully changed the fan for a good one, but very interestingly the squeek noise when I power off still persists. It's definitely not the fan. Perhaps there *is* a speaker on this mobo? (I'm sorry, my ignorance in this matter doesn't help -- what do mobo speakers look like -- there is some kind of black plastic barrel shapped object about 1cm in diameter and about 1.5cm tall.) That's quite an old mobo and yes there is a speaker built in. Depending on the exact model of the mobo will depend on how you can disable sound from the speaker. Look for a JF1 jumper/pins on the mobo and set the jumper at 11-12 to disable the sound from it. If you still hear some type of "gerbil squeak", you need to listen much more closely inside the box to where the actual sound is generating from. I also notice on this Supermicro P6SBU motherboard, there's something called a SCSI terminator enable jumper next to a green lit LED. Is this power off noise some kind of warning perhaps that power has been lost to a vital component? Is not relevant to your issue. I'm very pleased with the fan change though. My CPU temp is 32c, down a few degrees, but it's almost soundless. It's a 120cm case fan pushed up against a Pentium 3 slot 1 heatsink, running at 850rpm. Looks a bit odd, but seems to do the job. It may be the 120mm fan appears to be a cooling plus, yet it may cause more issues due to the proper circulation of air movement in the case. If it continues to keep the cpu and the mobo at a cooler temp, then it's a good thing. If it only keeps the cpu cooler and not the mobo, more issues can/will arise. -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
Guest MEB Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 The squeak may be coming from the power supply if not the computer's speaker.. as recommended, listen carefully with the cover off. That plastic thing might be the speaker, though unless it has two [or more] wires running to it, it may not be. It could also be a *case alarm*, which goes off when high temperatures are noted. IF curious, and it has two or more wires running to it, trace those wires back to the connection and check the motherboard or case schematics/diagram/manual. The SCSI terminator would be used to shut off and/or recognize the termination of the SCSI channel(s). -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:5ac2bcba-2260-49ce-bb14-318993c4fcc9@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... On 23 May, 13:11, rpgs rock dvds <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard. When > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's now > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the exact > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the PSU > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I have > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally stops. > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut down > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method. > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert. Thanks very much for everyone's replies. I have successfully changed the fan for a good one, but very interestingly the squeek noise when I power off still persists. It's definitely not the fan. Perhaps there *is* a speaker on this mobo? (I'm sorry, my ignorance in this matter doesn't help -- what do mobo speakers look like -- there is some kind of black plastic barrel shapped object about 1cm in diameter and about 1.5cm tall.) I also notice on this Supermicro P6SBU motherboard, there's something called a SCSI terminator enable jumper next to a green lit LED. Is this power off noise some kind of warning perhaps that power has been lost to a vital component? I'm very pleased with the fan change though. My CPU temp is 32c, down a few degrees, but it's almost soundless. It's a 120cm case fan pushed up against a Pentium 3 slot 1 heatsink, running at 850rpm. Looks a bit odd, but seems to do the job. Best regards, Robert.
Guest rpgs rock dvds Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 On 24 May, 19:50, "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote: > The squeak may be coming from the power supply if not the computer's > speaker.. as recommended, listen carefully with the cover off. > > That plastic thing might be the speaker, though unless it has two [or more] > wires running to it, it may not be. It could also be a *case alarm*, which > goes off when high temperatures are noted. IF curious, and it has two or > more wires running to it, trace those wires back to the connection and check > the motherboard or case schematics/diagram/manual. > > The SCSI terminator would be used to shut off and/or recognize the > termination of the SCSI channel(s). > > -- > MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com Problem solved!! :o) You gave me an excellent idea -- I studied the online .pdf mobo diagram again, and spotted this note: Note: To enable the overheat buzzer, place a jumper on BZ_ON. The jumper in question was covered. I uncovered it, shut down Windows, and now I get silence! :o) No more gerbils! ;-) I am *really* guessing that as power is switched off, the mobo kind of 'panics' because the CPU's fan motor stops, and the mobo then decides to "ring the alarm" because it senses potential CPU overheat danger, but then the alarm itself cuts out because it cannot sound without any power. Thanks very much for everyone's help. What an excellent forum this is. Best regards, Robert.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 Which way are you going to leave it? I should think the squeak harmless and the possible overheat warning useful. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:560be491-3ddb-4acc-9adb-49f3059939a2@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On 24 May, 19:50, "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote: > The squeak may be coming from the power supply if not the computer's > speaker.. as recommended, listen carefully with the cover off. > > That plastic thing might be the speaker, though unless it has two [or > more] > wires running to it, it may not be. It could also be a *case alarm*, which > goes off when high temperatures are noted. IF curious, and it has two or > more wires running to it, trace those wires back to the connection and > check > the motherboard or case schematics/diagram/manual. > > The SCSI terminator would be used to shut off and/or recognize the > termination of the SCSI channel(s). > > -- > MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com Problem solved!! :o) You gave me an excellent idea -- I studied the online .pdf mobo diagram again, and spotted this note: Note: To enable the overheat buzzer, place a jumper on BZ_ON. The jumper in question was covered. I uncovered it, shut down Windows, and now I get silence! :o) No more gerbils! ;-) I am *really* guessing that as power is switched off, the mobo kind of 'panics' because the CPU's fan motor stops, and the mobo then decides to "ring the alarm" because it senses potential CPU overheat danger, but then the alarm itself cuts out because it cannot sound without any power. Thanks very much for everyone's help. What an excellent forum this is. Best regards, Robert.
Guest rpgs rock dvds Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 On 24 May, 21:26, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: > Which way are you going to leave it? I should think the squeak harmless and > the possible overheat warning useful. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com Yes, that's a very good thought. After I have finished setting up the mobo and I am very happy with its configuration, I may put the over heat buzzer jumper back on. I've monitored both system and cpu temperatures all day today, and they have both been consistently good -- both low 30s. (Incidentally, I've only had this mobo 1.5 days, so I'm still figuring out how it all works etc.) Thanks, best regards, Robert.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 Doin' pretty good for 1.5 days. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:fc16f80b-b38d-45ac-ae0b-21ac5429c415@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On 24 May, 21:26, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: >> Which way are you going to leave it? I should think the squeak harmless >> and >> the possible overheat warning useful. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com > > Yes, that's a very good thought. After I have finished setting up the > mobo and I am very happy with its configuration, I may put the over > heat buzzer jumper back on. I've monitored both system and cpu > temperatures all day today, and they have both been consistently good > -- both low 30s. (Incidentally, I've only had this mobo 1.5 days, so > I'm still figuring out how it all works etc.) > > Thanks, best regards, Robert.
Guest MEB Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 Excellent, glad to hear it. After getting comfortable with the new computer, you might what to see if it has some settings you can adjust to up the temp a bit [couple of degrees usually does it] for the alarm, or perhaps set to ignore power down. There may be a BIOS setting, or something related to the chipset monitoring in its installed configurations in Device Manager, or separate software that might have been installed. IF NOT, post the actual board and case manufacturer and model, and we can see if something is available. Thanks for posting back.. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:560be491-3ddb-4acc-9adb-49f3059939a2@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On 24 May, 19:50, "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote: > The squeak may be coming from the power supply if not the computer's > speaker.. as recommended, listen carefully with the cover off. > > That plastic thing might be the speaker, though unless it has two [or more] > wires running to it, it may not be. It could also be a *case alarm*, which > goes off when high temperatures are noted. IF curious, and it has two or > more wires running to it, trace those wires back to the connection and check > the motherboard or case schematics/diagram/manual. > > The SCSI terminator would be used to shut off and/or recognize the > termination of the SCSI channel(s). > > -- > MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com Problem solved!! :o) You gave me an excellent idea -- I studied the online .pdf mobo diagram again, and spotted this note: Note: To enable the overheat buzzer, place a jumper on BZ_ON. The jumper in question was covered. I uncovered it, shut down Windows, and now I get silence! :o) No more gerbils! ;-) I am *really* guessing that as power is switched off, the mobo kind of 'panics' because the CPU's fan motor stops, and the mobo then decides to "ring the alarm" because it senses potential CPU overheat danger, but then the alarm itself cuts out because it cannot sound without any power. Thanks very much for everyone's help. What an excellent forum this is. Best regards, Robert.
Guest rpgs rock dvds Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 On 24 May, 22:50, "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Excellent, glad to hear it. > After getting comfortable with the new computer, you might what to see if > it has some settings you can adjust to up the temp a bit [couple of degrees > usually does it] for the alarm, or perhaps set to ignore power down. There > may be a BIOS setting, or something related to the chipset monitoring in its > installed configurations in Device Manager, or separate software that might > have been installed. > > IF NOT, post the actual board and case manufacturer and model, and we can > see if something is available. > > Thanks for posting back.. > > -- > MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com Very good advice, and I will definitely be doing this asap. However, right ATM I am having a strange problem with the mobo which I will post as a seperate thread called EMM386... Thanks a lot, regards, Robert.
Guest Brian A. Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98 "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:17d78069-cdbf-4698-b4d9-a93de22dc4b0@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... On 24 May, 22:50, "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Excellent, glad to hear it. > After getting comfortable with the new computer, you might what to see if > it has some settings you can adjust to up the temp a bit [couple of degrees > usually does it] for the alarm, or perhaps set to ignore power down. There > may be a BIOS setting, or something related to the chipset monitoring in its > installed configurations in Device Manager, or separate software that might > have been installed. > > IF NOT, post the actual board and case manufacturer and model, and we can > see if something is available. > > Thanks for posting back.. > > -- > MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com Very good advice, and I will definitely be doing this asap. However, right ATM I am having a strange problem with the mobo which I will post as a seperate thread called EMM386... Thanks a lot, regards, Robert. Have read through these: http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?mode=a&query=emm386&catalog=LCID%3D1033&1033comm=1&spid=1139 -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
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