Guest vdz Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Hi all Now I have an option to choose either 2 X 2k3 or 2 X 2k8, one for DC and one for Exchange 07. I have never got hands on 2k8 and I am willing to learn too. With 2k3 I am comfortable with this. Currently we have 1x 2k3 AD DC. So please tell me what would you pick? and why? One more question: at the moment we have Lock out GPO in place and set in Domain and apply to every users including Administrator (me), we can't exclude the administrator in Wins 2k3 server, but I have been told that it can be done in Wins 2k8. Can we still exclude the adminstrator from Lockout GPO in mix environment 2k3 and 2k8? Many thanks in advance
Guest Thomas H Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 RE: 2003 or 2008 server Don't forget that 2k8 does allow downgrade rights. You could purchase 2k8 and use 2k3 instead until you're ready (trained, tested, etc) for 2k8. See these two links: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/downgrade-rights.aspx and http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-faq.aspx (look under the "Other" section, questions 3 & 4) "vdz" wrote: > Hi all > > Now I have an option to choose either 2 X 2k3 or 2 X 2k8, one for DC and one > for Exchange 07. I have never got hands on 2k8 and I am willing to learn too. > With 2k3 I am comfortable with this. > Currently we have 1x 2k3 AD DC. > > So please tell me what would you pick? and why? > > One more question: at the moment we have Lock out GPO in place and set in > Domain and apply to every users including Administrator (me), we can't > exclude the administrator in Wins 2k3 server, but I have been told that it > can be done in Wins 2k8. Can we still exclude the adminstrator from Lockout > GPO in mix environment 2k3 and 2k8? > > Many thanks in advance
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Re: 2003 or 2008 server Hello vdz, I would install 2008, because it is new and has the longest available support in the moment. It is also stable and you have lot of new features included, that you do not have with 2003, except you buy additional license for R2 feature pack, FSRM is one example. http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/0e0d96cd-935b-48d0-b5ba-c70a979fadbc1033.mspx For learning you can install additional 2008 DC and check out with a test machine and special OU's only for testing 2008 options on it. Because of coexistence of 2003 DC's and 2008 DC's some options are not available, becasue of the Forest functional level and Domain functional level. http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/34678199-98f1-465f-9156-c600f723b31f1033.mspx?mfr=true To use Fine grained password policy, what you are talking about, you need a FFL/DFL as 2008 server, so no 2003 DC's are allowed. http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/056a73ef-5c9e-44d7-acc1-4f0bade6cd751033.mspx?mfr=true And as Thomas mentioned, you can buy 2008 server and downgrade/obtain the same version of 2003 for use until you are ready for 2008 administration. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > Hi all > > Now I have an option to choose either 2 X 2k3 or 2 X 2k8, one for DC > and one for Exchange 07. I have never got hands on 2k8 and I am > willing to learn too. With 2k3 I am comfortable with this. Currently > we have 1x 2k3 AD DC. > > So please tell me what would you pick? and why? > > One more question: at the moment we have Lock out GPO in place and set > in Domain and apply to every users including Administrator (me), we > can't exclude the administrator in Wins 2k3 server, but I have been > told that it can be done in Wins 2k8. Can we still exclude the > adminstrator from Lockout GPO in mix environment 2k3 and 2k8? > > Many thanks in advance >
Guest vdz Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 Re: 2003 or 2008 server Thank you all for your help. However I am worried about the CALs, currently we have 50 CALs, should I have to purchase another set of 50 CALs for Wins server 2008. Thanks a lot again "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > Hello vdz, > > I would install 2008, because it is new and has the longest available support > in the moment. It is also stable and you have lot of new features included, > that you do not have with 2003, except you buy additional license for R2 > feature pack, FSRM is one example. > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/0e0d96cd-935b-48d0-b5ba-c70a979fadbc1033.mspx > > > For learning you can install additional 2008 DC and check out with a test > machine and special OU's only for testing 2008 options on it. Because of > coexistence of 2003 DC's and 2008 DC's some options are not available, becasue > of the Forest functional level and Domain functional level. > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/34678199-98f1-465f-9156-c600f723b31f1033.mspx?mfr=true > > > To use Fine grained password policy, what you are talking about, you need > a FFL/DFL as 2008 server, so no 2003 DC's are allowed. > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/056a73ef-5c9e-44d7-acc1-4f0bade6cd751033.mspx?mfr=true > > And as Thomas mentioned, you can buy 2008 server and downgrade/obtain the > same version of 2003 for use until you are ready for 2008 administration. > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > Hi all > > > > Now I have an option to choose either 2 X 2k3 or 2 X 2k8, one for DC > > and one for Exchange 07. I have never got hands on 2k8 and I am > > willing to learn too. With 2k3 I am comfortable with this. Currently > > we have 1x 2k3 AD DC. > > > > So please tell me what would you pick? and why? > > > > One more question: at the moment we have Lock out GPO in place and set > > in Domain and apply to every users including Administrator (me), we > > can't exclude the administrator in Wins 2k3 server, but I have been > > told that it can be done in Wins 2k8. Can we still exclude the > > adminstrator from Lockout GPO in mix environment 2k3 and 2k8? > > > > Many thanks in advance > > > > >
Guest Florian Frommherz [MVP] Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 Re: 2003 or 2008 server Howdie! vdz schrieb: > Thank you all for your help. > However I am worried about the CALs, currently we have 50 CALs, should I > have to purchase another set of 50 CALs for Wins server 2008. Yes. Server 2008 requires new CALs. But your reseller should come up with a upgrade plan that fits your needs. cheers, Florian -- Microsoft MVP - Windows Server - Group Policy. eMail: prename [at] frickelsoft [dot] net. blog: http://www.frickelsoft.net/blog. Use a newsreader! http://www.frickelsoft.net/news.html
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