SP3 corrupted computer?

[Guest Rick S.]

The title says it all, with all the things gone wrong with my system and

exhausting any avenues I can think of for a cause I believe SP3 has literally

corrupted my computer to the point that it is unstable and unusable.

 

Here is a partial list of weird problems:

1. MS Paint no longer will open any files other than BMP files

2. I can not install most software with out a fatal install crash or after

the install the software will not function without a crash.

3. IE7 crashes at will, note: 90% of the time its a Microsoft website. Go

figure. eh!

4. I cannot un-install or re-install windows components, it goes thru the

steps but changes nothing.

 

My latest attempt to resolve at least one issue was met with a brick wall,

although many honestly tried to help.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support&mid=53a90454-93de-4c68-89e3-7b1296f68f81&sloc=en-us

 

My queries to find answers have not turned up anything useful in the last 6

days!.

 

Now I am thinking of un-installing SP3 (puts on special computer wave

generating brain deflector), who has had experience completing this? Success

and or failure stories gladly accepted.

 

I would like to determine a path of recovery now rather than a fix.

--

Regards

 

XP Pro

Office 2007

[Guest Twayne]

Re: SP3 corrupted computer?

 

> The title says it all, with all the things gone wrong with my system

> and exhausting any avenues I can think of for a cause I believe SP3

> has literally corrupted my computer to the point that it is unstable

> and unusable.

>

> Here is a partial list of weird problems:

> 1. MS Paint no longer will open any files other than BMP files

> 2. I can not install most software with out a fatal install crash or

> after the install the software will not function without a crash.

> 3. IE7 crashes at will, note: 90% of the time its a Microsoft

> website. Go figure. eh!

> 4. I cannot un-install or re-install windows components, it goes thru

> the steps but changes nothing.

>

> My latest attempt to resolve at least one issue was met with a brick

> wall, although many honestly tried to help.

> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support&mid=53a90454-93de-4c68-89e3-7b1296f68f81&sloc=en-us

>

> My queries to find answers have not turned up anything useful in the

> last 6 days!.

>

> Now I am thinking of un-installing SP3 (puts on special computer wave

> generating brain deflector), who has had experience completing this?

> Success and or failure stories gladly accepted.

>

> I would like to determine a path of recovery now rather than a fix.

 

In reality SP3 is only SP2 with all its hotfixes so technically you

could do fine with SP2 and the updates as long as you have SP2 on a disk

handy.

 

If you haven't checked the details on installing SP3 on the MS site you

really should because they have some important information in them.

 

Also, in some cases, e.g. AMD cpu's, there does seem to be problems for

sure and there are a couple other issues many people are finding but

which are manageable for some, n ot so for others.

Personally I downloaded SP3 but I'm waiting for its first hot fix

before I bother to use it. Like any other prog, I wait to see if there

will be any 'fixes' before I bother looking too closely at them.

 

HTH

 

Twayne

[Guest Kenny]

Re: SP3 corrupted computer?

 

I installed SP3 on a laptop and desktop PC's.

No problem on the desktop but the wireless LAN on laptop wouldn't work after

SP3. No amount of re-installing drivers etc. would rectify it.

Luckily I had made an image using True Image and was able to restore it to

before SP3.

 

--

Kenny Cargill

 

 

 

 

"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message

news:OfrQOrOvIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> The title says it all, with all the things gone wrong with my system

>> and exhausting any avenues I can think of for a cause I believe SP3

>> has literally corrupted my computer to the point that it is unstable

>> and unusable.

>>

>> Here is a partial list of weird problems:

>> 1. MS Paint no longer will open any files other than BMP files

>> 2. I can not install most software with out a fatal install crash or

>> after the install the software will not function without a crash.

>> 3. IE7 crashes at will, note: 90% of the time its a Microsoft

>> website. Go figure. eh!

>> 4. I cannot un-install or re-install windows components, it goes thru

>> the steps but changes nothing.

>>

>> My latest attempt to resolve at least one issue was met with a brick

>> wall, although many honestly tried to help.

>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support&mid=53a90454-93de-4c68-89e3-7b1296f68f81&sloc=en-us

>>

>> My queries to find answers have not turned up anything useful in the

>> last 6 days!.

>>

>> Now I am thinking of un-installing SP3 (puts on special computer wave

>> generating brain deflector), who has had experience completing this?

>> Success and or failure stories gladly accepted.

>>

>> I would like to determine a path of recovery now rather than a fix.

>

> In reality SP3 is only SP2 with all its hotfixes so technically you could

> do fine with SP2 and the updates as long as you have SP2 on a disk handy.

>

> If you haven't checked the details on installing SP3 on the MS site you

> really should because they have some important information in them.

>

> Also, in some cases, e.g. AMD cpu's, there does seem to be problems for

> sure and there are a couple other issues many people are finding but which

> are manageable for some, n ot so for others.

> Personally I downloaded SP3 but I'm waiting for its first hot fix before

> I bother to use it. Like any other prog, I wait to see if there will be

> any 'fixes' before I bother looking too closely at them.

>

> HTH

>

> Twayne

>

[Guest Lem]

Re: SP3 corrupted computer?

 

Rick S. wrote:

> The title says it all, with all the things gone wrong with my system and

> exhausting any avenues I can think of for a cause I believe SP3 has literally

> corrupted my computer to the point that it is unstable and unusable.

>

> Here is a partial list of weird problems:

> 1. MS Paint no longer will open any files other than BMP files

> 2. I can not install most software with out a fatal install crash or after

> the install the software will not function without a crash.

> 3. IE7 crashes at will, note: 90% of the time its a Microsoft website. Go

> figure. eh!

> 4. I cannot un-install or re-install windows components, it goes thru the

> steps but changes nothing.

>

> My latest attempt to resolve at least one issue was met with a brick wall,

> although many honestly tried to help.

> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support&mid=53a90454-93de-4c68-89e3-7b1296f68f81&sloc=en-us

>

> My queries to find answers have not turned up anything useful in the last 6

> days!.

>

> Now I am thinking of un-installing SP3 (puts on special computer wave

> generating brain deflector), who has had experience completing this? Success

> and or failure stories gladly accepted.

>

> I would like to determine a path of recovery now rather than a fix.

 

"Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for

Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3)."

 

Go to

http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

 

--

Lem -- MS-MVP

 

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

[Guest Rick S.]

RE: SP3 corrupted computer?

 

Twayne

This was a company wide install; simply was not in my hands to make a

decision. As it is, we have a couple of stubborn systems that just did not

like SP3. Like mine for instance. At home, I have avoided SP3 due to

information I have read prior to this problem.

 

Kenny

I envy you! LOL

I wish they would have done that as well. :shrug:

 

Lem

This is the first new information I have received, Thanks!

 

--

Regards

 

XP Pro

Office 2007

[Guest MowGreen [MVP]]

Re: SP3 corrupted computer?

 

Rick,

 

It 'sounds' like the antivirus software was actively monitoring the

system and caused registry corruption when SP3 was applied.

Norton Internet Security and other Symantec 'products' have been

identified as doing just that.

Here's Symantec's spin on the issue:

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9088598&source=NLT_AM&nlid=1

 

I don't buy Symantec's spin as most AVs do not have the issue. The

registry becomes corrupted due to it being guarded by Symantec products

that edit Permissions. Installation issues with Security updates have

also arisen from this 'guarding' of the registry.

Reliable and trustworthy security software needs to be able to know how

Windows functions. Apparently, Symantec feels that learning how Windows

works is less important than imposing their vision of how they want

their software to work.

No one buys a computer to run security software, they buy it to use the

computer.

 

Microsoft already has a KB article that recommends AV software be

disabled when SP3 is applied. It should be the first window a User sees

when applying SP3, not stuck away in a KB:

 

Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717

 

As Lem has already pointed out, contact MS.

 

 

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]

===============

*-343-* FDNY

Never Forgotten

===============

 

 

 

Rick S. wrote:

> Twayne

> This was a company wide install; simply was not in my hands to make a

> decision. As it is, we have a couple of stubborn systems that just did not

> like SP3. Like mine for instance. At home, I have avoided SP3 due to

> information I have read prior to this problem.

>

> Kenny

> I envy you! LOL

> I wish they would have done that as well. :shrug:

>

> Lem

> This is the first new information I have received, Thanks!

>

[Guest Rick S.]

Re: SP3 corrupted computer?

 

Thanks to all that replied!

Unfortunately the problems are to complex to fix (including costs) and we

are scrapping this system (reformat HD) and re-installing XP Pro.

 

Control-ALT-Sledgehammer

Re-format complete!

LOL

 

--

Regards

 

XP Pro

Office 2007

 

 

 

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> Rick,

>

> It 'sounds' like the antivirus software was actively monitoring the

> system and caused registry corruption when SP3 was applied.

> Norton Internet Security and other Symantec 'products' have been

> identified as doing just that.

> Here's Symantec's spin on the issue:

> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9088598&source=NLT_AM&nlid=1

>

> I don't buy Symantec's spin as most AVs do not have the issue. The

> registry becomes corrupted due to it being guarded by Symantec products

> that edit Permissions. Installation issues with Security updates have

> also arisen from this 'guarding' of the registry.

> Reliable and trustworthy security software needs to be able to know how

> Windows functions. Apparently, Symantec feels that learning how Windows

> works is less important than imposing their vision of how they want

> their software to work.

> No one buys a computer to run security software, they buy it to use the

> computer.

>

> Microsoft already has a KB article that recommends AV software be

> disabled when SP3 is applied. It should be the first window a User sees

> when applying SP3, not stuck away in a KB:

>

> Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717

>

> As Lem has already pointed out, contact MS.

>

>

> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]

> ===============

> *-343-* FDNY

> Never Forgotten

> ===============

>

>

>

> Rick S. wrote:

>

> > Twayne

> > This was a company wide install; simply was not in my hands to make a

> > decision. As it is, we have a couple of stubborn systems that just did not

> > like SP3. Like mine for instance. At home, I have avoided SP3 due to

> > information I have read prior to this problem.

> >

> > Kenny

> > I envy you! LOL

> > I wish they would have done that as well. :shrug:

> >

> > Lem

> > This is the first new information I have received, Thanks!

> >

>