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A few months ago, I was building a PC, I asked the question abut Vista vs.

XP, and I ended up using XP. I would like to ask the same question now. Is

Vista the way to go with a new PC? I will be using this for a business

computer, with many types of applications. It will be a performance PC,

with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor. Thanks.

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

On May 25, 9:06 am, "Talal Itani" <tit...@verizon.net> wrote:

> A few months ago, I was building a PC, I asked the question abut Vista vs.

> XP, and I ended up using XP. I would like to ask the same question now. Is

> Vista the way to go with a new PC? I will be using this for a business

> computer, with many types of applications. It will be a performance PC,

> with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor. Thanks.

 

 

I would suggest XP:

 

- I talked to the local PC repair guy, who recommended the same

thing..

 

Google Vista

 

& here's a link to some stories concerning Vista

 

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/archives/2008/05/infoworlds_othe.html

Guest Steve Thackery

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

Although there are some impressive new technologies under Vista's hood, they

don't really result in a better user experience.

 

XP is thoroughly tried and tested. If you are happy with its (in my view

patronising) user interface and overall functionality, I'd suggest you stick

with it. Vista's interface is different rather than better.

 

Vista is potentially more secure, and if this is important to you, it would

weigh the balance more towards Vista.

 

But basically, there is no compelling reason at all to choose Vista, and XP

does have the benefit of being well sorted.

 

Personally I prefer Vista, but only because I can't resist upgrading to the

latest of anything, even if it's no good :-)

 

SteveT

Guest Mark L. Ferguson

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

Is Vista the way to go? IMO, Yes.

Is my new hardware, capable of things XP's hardware could never do, worth

having? Yes.

Is Vista the last system upgrade that will ever happen? Not likely.

Am I incapable, or just too lazy to innovate solutions for my existing

system,( like so many of those creaking old LANs still running Win2K)? I

prefer to keep up.

Not only is it the way to go, it's the only change available. If you think

users hate the learning curve of Vista, try teaching them *nix. It's keep

up, or fall behind. Saying it's too expensive, too hard, or too flawed is

the whine of someone looking for an excuse to go back to the 'good old

days'.

Vista has the 'nag screen' issue. XP had the 'blaster'. 2K had memory leaks.

95 had the BSOD. 9X had a flawed kernel and DOS had memory limitations. Good

old days, indeed. Win7 is on the storyboard of the war-room as we speak, and

I doubt they are looking backward. :/

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"Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message

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> A few months ago, I was building a PC, I asked the question abut Vista vs.

> XP, and I ended up using XP. I would like to ask the same question now.

> Is Vista the way to go with a new PC? I will be using this for a business

> computer, with many types of applications. It will be a performance PC,

> with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor. Thanks.

>

Guest Kerry Brown

Guest Kerry Brown

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

If the applications you need to run have Vista versions then Vista is the

way to go. I'm assuming you want to keep the computer for several years. As

people buy new computers with Vista, Vista will become the standard

operating system. Eventually hardware manufacturers will quit developing XP

drivers for new hardware. When XP was released this took about four to five

years. For the past couple of years most hardware manufacturers have not had

Windows 98 drivers for new hardware. I expect the same time frame will apply

to Vista. Vista has been out for a little over a year. This means that in

another three to four years it may be hard to buy new hardware like

printers, cameras, graphics cards, etc., that support XP. If you plan to

keep your computer that long Vista is a better bet.

 

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http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

 

 

 

"Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message

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>A few months ago, I was building a PC, I asked the question abut Vista vs.

>XP, and I ended up using XP. I would like to ask the same question now.

>Is Vista the way to go with a new PC? I will be using this for a business

>computer, with many types of applications. It will be a performance PC,

>with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor. Thanks.

>

Guest Jawade

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

In article <Nvd_j.735$nx6.225@trnddc03>, Talal Itani <titani@verizon.net> says...

> A few months ago, I was building a PC, I asked the question abut Vista vs.

> XP, and I ended up using XP. I would like to ask the same question now. Is

> Vista the way to go with a new PC? I will be using this for a business

> computer, with many types of applications. It will be a performance PC,

> with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor. Thanks.

 

Take Vista, otherwise you have to switch once to Vista.

 

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Guest Steve Thackery

Guest Steve Thackery

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

Looking at the contributions from Mark, Kerry and Jawade, it seems I'm the

only one to recommend staying on XP (even though I use Vista on my main

machine).

 

It is only partially true to suggest the Vista is "the future", which seems

to summarise their arguments. I would suggest that Vista will have a

relatively short life, and will be replaced in 2010 by something much

better. You could very easily argue the case for leapfrogging Vista

altogether. XP will continue to run just fine until then. It is very well

sorted, and in fact will continue to receive security patches until 2014.

 

As I say, the problem with Vista is that even though it has lots of rather

good new technology under the hood, it really isn't much better than XP for

day-to-day useage and actually getting your work done. The new interface is

ho-hum, to be honest. In some ways it's a bit better than XP, in other ways

a bit worse.

 

For instance, in Windows Explorer they've implemented an automatic sideways

scroll of the folder tree, which is kind of cool. But they've also used

different - and much paler - 'hover' and 'selected' highlight colours which

are almost invisible on some monitors.

 

The new windows management and display technology is much better

technically, and lets you do fancy things like have semi-opaque windows and

title bars. But then when you've played with it for a while you think "so

what?". It isn't actually very useful to see a blurry representation (too

blurry to read) of the window underneath, and can be distracting. I

switched transparency off, eventually.

 

And some is sheer change for the sake of it. For instance, in XP, to remove

a program in the classic Control Panel, you use 'Add/Remove Programs'. In

Vista you use 'Programs and Features'. Eh?? Ditto the change to the file

copying algorithm. Even with SP1, it's still much slower than XP at copying

large files around. Despite Microsoft's claims to the contrary, it

definitely wasn't "broke" in XP, and it really didn't need fixing.

 

Don't worry about Vista's stability, by the way. So long as you've got

modern, compatible hardware and drivers, it's rock solid.

 

If you're the kind of person who likes playing with the latest thing, then

you'll find Vista good fun to mess around with. If you want something light

and fast, and don't mind the patronising "My" in front of everything and the

hideous Fisher Price colour scheme, then XP is for you.

 

In 2010 Vista will be replaced, and whether you've got XP or Vista, you'll

be able to upgrade to it.

 

SteveT, USB-stick tester.

Guest Marc

Guest Marc

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

I'd say Vista. It will better handle your hardware, and it's much more

secure. Automated backup, better sleep and resume (no more waiting for

startups), Direct X 10, Desktop Window Composition makes the desktop "tear

free", making it a much more enjoyable experience, Media Centre for sharing

your videos to your TV (got a Xbox 360??), there's also a lot more under the

hood that mean Vista is less likely to get slow or suffer fatal crashes.

 

Read

 

"Is the new Windows an XP-erience to be missed?"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2001/oct/28/microsoft.business

 

"Windows XP: Breaking Things"

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/1001/118.html

 

"XP Compatibility Problems Persist"

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-332558.html

 

"Suddenly Everything Sucks"

http://news.cnet.com/i/ne/me/2001/11/1129billboard.jpg

 

Bottom Line: All articles moaning about how bad XP was (even someone's

photoshopped poster there at the end).

Now XP is suddenly the best thing since bread came sliced. Vista may have

some minor issues (mostly with old hardware) but your new PC is likely to

outlast any of those small issues.

 

Marc

 

 

"Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:Nvd_j.735$nx6.225@trnddc03...

>A few months ago, I was building a PC, I asked the question abut Vista vs.

>XP, and I ended up using XP. I would like to ask the same question now.

>Is Vista the way to go with a new PC? I will be using this for a business

>computer, with many types of applications. It will be a performance PC,

>with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor. Thanks.

>

Guest Marc

Guest Marc

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

"Steve Thackery" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message

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> In 2010 Vista will be replaced,

 

Wasn't XP supposed to be replaced in 2004?? :-D

Guest Big Al

Guest Big Al

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

Marc wrote:

> I'd say Vista. It will better handle your hardware, and it's much more

> secure. Automated backup, better sleep and resume (no more waiting for

> startups), Direct X 10, Desktop Window Composition makes the desktop

> "tear free", making it a much more enjoyable experience, Media Centre

> for sharing your videos to your TV (got a Xbox 360??), there's also a

> lot more under the hood that mean Vista is less likely to get slow or

> suffer fatal crashes.

>

> Read

>

> "Is the new Windows an XP-erience to be missed?"

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2001/oct/28/microsoft.business

>

> "Windows XP: Breaking Things"

> http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/1001/118.html

>

> "XP Compatibility Problems Persist"

> http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-332558.html

>

> "Suddenly Everything Sucks"

> http://news.cnet.com/i/ne/me/2001/11/1129billboard.jpg

>

> Bottom Line: All articles moaning about how bad XP was (even someone's

> photoshopped poster there at the end).

> Now XP is suddenly the best thing since bread came sliced. Vista may

> have some minor issues (mostly with old hardware) but your new PC is

> likely to outlast any of those small issues.

>

> Marc

>

>

> "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message

> news:Nvd_j.735$nx6.225@trnddc03...

>> A few months ago, I was building a PC, I asked the question abut Vista

>> vs. XP, and I ended up using XP. I would like to ask the same

>> question now. Is Vista the way to go with a new PC? I will be using

>> this for a business computer, with many types of applications. It

>> will be a performance PC, with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor.

>> Thanks.

>>

>

Okay, one more question on this thread, is there a way to test hardware

before you buy to see if its compatible? I remember XP having such a

tool?

Guest Kelly

Guest Kelly

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

IMHO: XP.

 

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"Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:Nvd_j.735$nx6.225@trnddc03...

>A few months ago, I was building a PC, I asked the question abut Vista vs.

>XP, and I ended up using XP. I would like to ask the same question now.

>Is Vista the way to go with a new PC? I will be using this for a business

>computer, with many types of applications. It will be a performance PC,

>with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor. Thanks.

>

Guest Kerry Brown

Guest Kerry Brown

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

There is the Vista Upgrade Advisor

 

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx

 

It is a very good idea to run this but don't rely on the results. It will

flag obvious incompatibilities. It may not flag all incompatible hardware.

It may not know about all updated drivers so some compatible hardware may be

flagged as incompatible.

 

--

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MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration

http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

 

 

> Okay, one more question on this thread, is there a way to test hardware

> before you buy to see if its compatible? I remember XP having such a

> tool?

Guest Kelly

Guest Kelly

Posted
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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

Vista Readiness Test: http://www.pcpitstop.com/vistaready/default.asp

 

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Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

 

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http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

 

 

"Big Al" <BigAl@nowhere.com> wrote in message

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> Marc wrote:

>> I'd say Vista. It will better handle your hardware, and it's much more

>> secure. Automated backup, better sleep and resume (no more waiting for

>> startups), Direct X 10, Desktop Window Composition makes the desktop

>> "tear free", making it a much more enjoyable experience, Media Centre for

>> sharing your videos to your TV (got a Xbox 360??), there's also a lot

>> more under the hood that mean Vista is less likely to get slow or suffer

>> fatal crashes.

>>

>> Read

>>

>> "Is the new Windows an XP-erience to be missed?"

>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2001/oct/28/microsoft.business

>>

>> "Windows XP: Breaking Things"

>> http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/1001/118.html

>>

>> "XP Compatibility Problems Persist"

>> http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-332558.html

>>

>> "Suddenly Everything Sucks"

>> http://news.cnet.com/i/ne/me/2001/11/1129billboard.jpg

>>

>> Bottom Line: All articles moaning about how bad XP was (even someone's

>> photoshopped poster there at the end).

>> Now XP is suddenly the best thing since bread came sliced. Vista may have

>> some minor issues (mostly with old hardware) but your new PC is likely to

>> outlast any of those small issues.

>>

>> Marc

>>

>>

>> "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message

>> news:Nvd_j.735$nx6.225@trnddc03...

>>> A few months ago, I was building a PC, I asked the question abut Vista

>>> vs. XP, and I ended up using XP. I would like to ask the same question

>>> now. Is Vista the way to go with a new PC? I will be using this for a

>>> business computer, with many types of applications. It will be a

>>> performance PC, with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor. Thanks.

>>>

>>

> Okay, one more question on this thread, is there a way to test hardware

> before you buy to see if its compatible? I remember XP having such a

> tool?

Guest Steve Thackery

Guest Steve Thackery

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

> Wasn't XP supposed to be replaced in 2004?? :-D

 

With Longhorn, yes. However, the security scares with XP caused MS to

abandon most of the work they'd done and start all over again. One result

is that Vista was developed in rather a hurry - and it shows.

 

SteveT

Guest Hobbes

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

You were developed in a hurry.... by my guess a blood alcohol level whim

 

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"Steve Thackery" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message

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>> Wasn't XP supposed to be replaced in 2004?? :-D

>

> With Longhorn, yes. However, the security scares with XP caused MS to

> abandon most of the work they'd done and start all over again. One result

> is that Vista was developed in rather a hurry - and it shows.

>

> SteveT

Guest Peter Foldes

Guest Peter Foldes

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

My preference would be XP over Vista at present.

 

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"Marc " <RmEaMrOcVE@imarc.co.uk> wrote in message news:F018FDCC-79B2-4681-AFF3-381EEDC4642E@microsoft.com...

> I'd say Vista. It will better handle your hardware, and it's much more

> secure. Automated backup, better sleep and resume (no more waiting for

> startups), Direct X 10, Desktop Window Composition makes the desktop "tear

> free", making it a much more enjoyable experience, Media Centre for sharing

> your videos to your TV (got a Xbox 360??), there's also a lot more under the

> hood that mean Vista is less likely to get slow or suffer fatal crashes.

>

> Read

>

> "Is the new Windows an XP-erience to be missed?"

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2001/oct/28/microsoft.business

>

> "Windows XP: Breaking Things"

> http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/1001/118.html

>

> "XP Compatibility Problems Persist"

> http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-332558.html

>

> "Suddenly Everything Sucks"

> http://news.cnet.com/i/ne/me/2001/11/1129billboard.jpg

>

> Bottom Line: All articles moaning about how bad XP was (even someone's

> photoshopped poster there at the end).

> Now XP is suddenly the best thing since bread came sliced. Vista may have

> some minor issues (mostly with old hardware) but your new PC is likely to

> outlast any of those small issues.

>

> Marc

>

>

> "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message

> news:Nvd_j.735$nx6.225@trnddc03...

>>A few months ago, I was building a PC, I asked the question abut Vista vs.

>>XP, and I ended up using XP. I would like to ask the same question now.

>>Is Vista the way to go with a new PC? I will be using this for a business

>>computer, with many types of applications. It will be a performance PC,

>>with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor. Thanks.

>>

>

Guest Adam Albright

Guest Adam Albright

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

On Sun, 25 May 2008 19:33:53 +0100, "Steve Thackery"

<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>> Wasn't XP supposed to be replaced in 2004?? :-D

>

>With Longhorn, yes. However, the security scares with XP caused MS to

>abandon most of the work they'd done and start all over again. One result

>is that Vista was developed in rather a hurry - and it shows.

>

>SteveT

 

Five years is in a hurry?

Guest (PeteCresswell)

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

Per Talal Itani:

>It will be a performance PC,

>with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor.

 

Can somebody who knows comment on whether it will still be a

performance PC once he puts Vista on it?

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Guest Steve Thackery

Guest Steve Thackery

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

Beg pardon?

 

SteveT

Guest (PeteCresswell)

Guest (PeteCresswell)

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

Per Steve Thackery:

>Although there are some impressive new technologies under Vista's hood, they

>don't really result in a better user experience.

 

Can somebody tell me what Vista has that will make it easier for

me to do my basic office rat tasks like email, writing code,

creating Word documents, and doing spreadsheets?

 

I just spent almost an hour in front of my neighbor's new Vista

box and, frankly, I didn't see anything of substance.

 

In fact there was even a PITA actor as seemingly-identical

functions as basic as "My Computer" have been moved so that

somebody familiar with XP's UI is left groping.

 

Vista didn't look like anything that I'd want to inflict on

somebody's secretary.... or some IT guy who has to flip

back-and-forth between OS's.

 

"Intel givith.

Microsoft taketh away".

--

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

What is your definition of a performance PC?

"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message

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> Per Talal Itani:

>>It will be a performance PC,

>>with 4GB of memory and a 3 GHz processor.

>

> Can somebody who knows comment on whether it will still be a

> performance PC once he puts Vista on it?

> --

> PeteCresswell

Guest Steve Thackery

Guest Steve Thackery

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Re: Vista or XP ?

 

> Can somebody who knows comment on whether it will still be a

> performance PC once he puts Vista on it?

 

Yes, it will. That is to say, the reduction in performance from XP to Vista

is pretty small - usual too small to notice without using benchmarking

software - PROVIDED you have at least 2G of RAM.

 

The one area that will be affected is copying and moving large files. Vista

is very noticeably slower than XP for that, even with SP1.

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