Installing XP & Key code question

[Guest James]

Hello,

 

I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop

computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole

software package that came with the computer and is not a separate disc. I

was wondering if I bought a new full version XP disc and used it to load XP

on my HP desktop computer in the future. Would the new XP disc continue to

load if I use the key code that came with my HP computer instead of using

the key code that came with the disc? In other words; could I use the new

disc just for installing XP on my desktop and then use the new disc and the

licenses that came with it to install on another computer? I don't like how

the recovery disc that came with the computer installs on my HP computer and

I was wondering if I could share the disc. That is why I am asking this

question.

 

Any information would be appreciated. I hope everyone has a Safe & Happy

Memorial Day!

 

Thanks,

James

[Guest JS]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

Not likely as HP uses OEM factory key code.

Retail product needs the key that came with it.

 

JS

 

"James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:13FFCFB6-E693-4EF8-84AD-99E8C040A287@microsoft.com...

> Hello,

>

> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop

> computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole

> software package that came with the computer and is not a separate disc. I

> was wondering if I bought a new full version XP disc and used it to load

> XP on my HP desktop computer in the future. Would the new XP disc continue

> to load if I use the key code that came with my HP computer instead of

> using the key code that came with the disc? In other words; could I use

> the new disc just for installing XP on my desktop and then use the new

> disc and the licenses that came with it to install on another computer? I

> don't like how the recovery disc that came with the computer installs on

> my HP computer and I was wondering if I could share the disc. That is why

> I am asking this question.

>

> Any information would be appreciated. I hope everyone has a Safe & Happy

> Memorial Day!

>

> Thanks,

> James

>

>

[Guest Daave]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

"James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:13FFCFB6-E693-4EF8-84AD-99E8C040A287@microsoft.com...

> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop

> computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole

> software package that came with the computer and is not a separate

> disc. I was wondering if I bought a new full version XP disc and used

> it to load XP on my HP desktop computer in the future. Would the new

> XP disc continue to load if I use the key code that came with my HP

> computer instead of using the key code that came with the disc? In

> other words; could I use the new disc just for installing XP on my

> desktop and then use the new disc and the licenses that came with it

> to install on another computer? I don't like how the recovery disc

> that came with the computer installs on my HP computer and I was

> wondering if I could share the disc. That is why I am asking this

> question.

 

Since you already paid for your license, there is no need to give any

more money to Microsoft! Hopefully a friend, neighbor, relative, or

co-worker has a generic OEM XP Home disc you may borrow. If so, make a

copy for yourself (this is not piracy because owning the *license* is

what's important). Then you may use the disk to perform a clean install.

The product key on your Certificate of Authenticity sticker will work.

If you ever need to perform a repair install down the road, you can also

use that disk.

 

If you are unable to obtain a generic OEM XP Home disk, you might be

able to make your own, provided you have access to the I386 folder.

Instructions can be found at:

 

http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml

 

(Some people have had success downloading XP via P2P, but I don't

recommend this method since there's no guarantee you won't also be

downloading viruses, etc.)

 

If for some reason you wish to pay for a *retail* CD of XP Home, you can

use it on your HP, of course, but you would also *eventually* be able to

use it on another PC if you wish. Unlike OEM licenses (which are forever

tied to the one PC on which they are installed), retail licenses are

transferable. (That's one reason they are more expensive; another reason

is that you are entitled to limited support from Microsoft.) You just

need to know that you cannot use your license on more than one PC *at a

time*. So if you ever get another PC, you could remove XP from your HP

(reformatting the hard drive would accomplish this) and then install it

on the new PC. But if it were me, I'd just stick with the license you

already have -- chances are your next PC will have Vista. :-)

[Guest James]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

Hi JS,

 

Thank you for responding to me question and for your input. It is greatly

appreciated. I hope you are enjoying the Memorial Day weekend. Stay safe!

 

Thanks again,

James

 

 

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:eiHpprtvIHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Not likely as HP uses OEM factory key code.

> Retail product needs the key that came with it.

>

> JS

>

> "James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:13FFCFB6-E693-4EF8-84AD-99E8C040A287@microsoft.com...

>> Hello,

>>

>> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop

>> computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole

>> software package that came with the computer and is not a separate disc.

>> I was wondering if I bought a new full version XP disc and used it to

>> load XP on my HP desktop computer in the future. Would the new XP disc

>> continue to load if I use the key code that came with my HP computer

>> instead of using the key code that came with the disc? In other words;

>> could I use the new disc just for installing XP on my desktop and then

>> use the new disc and the licenses that came with it to install on another

>> computer? I don't like how the recovery disc that came with the computer

>> installs on my HP computer and I was wondering if I could share the disc.

>> That is why I am asking this question.

>>

>> Any information would be appreciated. I hope everyone has a Safe & Happy

>> Memorial Day!

>>

>> Thanks,

>> James

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest James]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

Hi Dave,

 

Thank you so much for replying to my question and for covering the issue in

such detail. You are very kind to take so much time to explain all this to

me. I do want to make sure of one thing though. You know what happens when

you assume.

 

First; as you read I want the disc for myself in case I have to do a fresh

install and also for the reason you stated; "a repair install" or for

startup repair, etc. I also want a second licenses for my dad. Right now he

is still running win98 and may some time in the future want to go to XP.

Since XP is not going to be out on the shelves much longer I wanted to have

a disc in case he ever wanted to update. Since I wanted a disc anyway I am

trying to save him money by me buying a disc and giving him the licenses.

Now with you knowing what I am trying to accomplish could I do this using a

new XP OEM discs? I see them on eBay for sale here and there. Could I buy

one of them and use it the way I explained? I believe I can from your

explanation, but I don't want to assume. It has got me into trouble before.

 

Thanks again for all your help. It is very kind of you and I appreciate it.

I hope you are having a Safe and Happy Memorial Day!

 

Best regards,

James

 

 

"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

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> "James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:13FFCFB6-E693-4EF8-84AD-99E8C040A287@microsoft.com...

>

>> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop

>> computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole

>> software package that came with the computer and is not a separate disc.

>> I was wondering if I bought a new full version XP disc and used it to

>> load XP on my HP desktop computer in the future. Would the new XP disc

>> continue to load if I use the key code that came with my HP computer

>> instead of using the key code that came with the disc? In other words;

>> could I use the new disc just for installing XP on my desktop and then

>> use the new disc and the licenses that came with it to install on another

>> computer? I don't like how the recovery disc that came with the computer

>> installs on my HP computer and I was wondering if I could share the disc.

>> That is why I am asking this question.

>

> Since you already paid for your license, there is no need to give any more

> money to Microsoft! Hopefully a friend, neighbor, relative, or co-worker

> has a generic OEM XP Home disc you may borrow. If so, make a copy for

> yourself (this is not piracy because owning the *license* is what's

> important). Then you may use the disk to perform a clean install. The

> product key on your Certificate of Authenticity sticker will work. If you

> ever need to perform a repair install down the road, you can also use that

> disk.

>

> If you are unable to obtain a generic OEM XP Home disk, you might be able

> to make your own, provided you have access to the I386 folder.

> Instructions can be found at:

>

> http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml

>

> (Some people have had success downloading XP via P2P, but I don't

> recommend this method since there's no guarantee you won't also be

> downloading viruses, etc.)

>

> If for some reason you wish to pay for a *retail* CD of XP Home, you can

> use it on your HP, of course, but you would also *eventually* be able to

> use it on another PC if you wish. Unlike OEM licenses (which are forever

> tied to the one PC on which they are installed), retail licenses are

> transferable. (That's one reason they are more expensive; another reason

> is that you are entitled to limited support from Microsoft.) You just need

> to know that you cannot use your license on more than one PC *at a time*.

> So if you ever get another PC, you could remove XP from your HP

> (reformatting the hard drive would accomplish this) and then install it on

> the new PC. But if it were me, I'd just stick with the license you already

> have -- chances are your next PC will have Vista. :-)

>

[Guest JS]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

You're welcome.

 

JS

 

"James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:D428B8E6-0562-4D6F-83B1-D6D5617D8CFD@microsoft.com...

> Hi JS,

>

> Thank you for responding to me question and for your input. It is greatly

> appreciated. I hope you are enjoying the Memorial Day weekend. Stay safe!

>

> Thanks again,

> James

>

>

> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:eiHpprtvIHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Not likely as HP uses OEM factory key code.

>> Retail product needs the key that came with it.

>>

>> JS

>>

>> "James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:13FFCFB6-E693-4EF8-84AD-99E8C040A287@microsoft.com...

>>> Hello,

>>>

>>> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop

>>> computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole

>>> software package that came with the computer and is not a separate disc.

>>> I was wondering if I bought a new full version XP disc and used it to

>>> load XP on my HP desktop computer in the future. Would the new XP disc

>>> continue to load if I use the key code that came with my HP computer

>>> instead of using the key code that came with the disc? In other words;

>>> could I use the new disc just for installing XP on my desktop and then

>>> use the new disc and the licenses that came with it to install on

>>> another computer? I don't like how the recovery disc that came with the

>>> computer installs on my HP computer and I was wondering if I could share

>>> the disc. That is why I am asking this question.

>>>

>>> Any information would be appreciated. I hope everyone has a Safe & Happy

>>> Memorial Day!

>>>

>>> Thanks,

>>> James

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

[Guest Daave]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

I follow.

 

First of all, stay away from Ebay. Although I'm sure there are some

reputable sellers there, I know there are many who aren't; there have

been a good number of posts here from people who have been ripped off.

 

Now that SP3 is out, I would recommend purchasing an OEM CD that has SP3

integrated from a merchant such as New Egg:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116511&Tpk=32-116-511

 

You can also compare prices using sites such as NexTag.com and

PriceGrabber.com .

 

This is not only an affordable option, but it will allow you to use it

on your HP (just use the product key on your HP's COA sticker) *and* you

can use it on your father's PC (use the product key that comes with the

CD). Of course, your father's PC's specs will have to be adequate to

warrant installing XP; older PCs are better off running 98SE.

 

Hope this helps, and happy Memorial Day to you, too!

 

 

"James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:48B04702-994B-405E-A2FC-57B60F9333F9@microsoft.com...

> Hi Dave,

>

> Thank you so much for replying to my question and for covering the

> issue in such detail. You are very kind to take so much time to

> explain all this to me. I do want to make sure of one thing though.

> You know what happens when you assume.

>

> First; as you read I want the disc for myself in case I have to do a

> fresh install and also for the reason you stated; "a repair install"

> or for startup repair, etc. I also want a second licenses for my dad.

> Right now he is still running win98 and may some time in the future

> want to go to XP. Since XP is not going to be out on the shelves much

> longer I wanted to have a disc in case he ever wanted to update. Since

> I wanted a disc anyway I am trying to save him money by me buying a

> disc and giving him the licenses. Now with you knowing what I am

> trying to accomplish could I do this using a new XP OEM discs? I see

> them on eBay for sale here and there. Could I buy one of them and use

> it the way I explained? I believe I can from your explanation, but I

> don't want to assume. It has got me into trouble before.

>

> Thanks again for all your help. It is very kind of you and I

> appreciate it. I hope you are having a Safe and Happy Memorial Day!

>

> Best regards,

> James

>

>

> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

> news:OBOZo1uvIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> "James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:13FFCFB6-E693-4EF8-84AD-99E8C040A287@microsoft.com...

>>

>>> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP

>>> Desktop computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of

>>> the whole software package that came with the computer and is not a

>>> separate disc. I was wondering if I bought a new full version XP

>>> disc and used it to load XP on my HP desktop computer in the future.

>>> Would the new XP disc continue to load if I use the key code that

>>> came with my HP computer instead of using the key code that came

>>> with the disc? In other words; could I use the new disc just for

>>> installing XP on my desktop and then use the new disc and the

>>> licenses that came with it to install on another computer? I don't

>>> like how the recovery disc that came with the computer installs on

>>> my HP computer and I was wondering if I could share the disc. That

>>> is why I am asking this question.

>>

>> Since you already paid for your license, there is no need to give any

>> more money to Microsoft! Hopefully a friend, neighbor, relative, or

>> co-worker has a generic OEM XP Home disc you may borrow. If so, make

>> a copy for yourself (this is not piracy because owning the *license*

>> is what's important). Then you may use the disk to perform a clean

>> install. The product key on your Certificate of Authenticity sticker

>> will work. If you ever need to perform a repair install down the

>> road, you can also use that disk.

>>

>> If you are unable to obtain a generic OEM XP Home disk, you might be

>> able to make your own, provided you have access to the I386 folder.

>> Instructions can be found at:

>>

>> http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml

>>

>> (Some people have had success downloading XP via P2P, but I don't

>> recommend this method since there's no guarantee you won't also be

>> downloading viruses, etc.)

>>

>> If for some reason you wish to pay for a *retail* CD of XP Home, you

>> can use it on your HP, of course, but you would also *eventually* be

>> able to use it on another PC if you wish. Unlike OEM licenses (which

>> are forever tied to the one PC on which they are installed), retail

>> licenses are transferable. (That's one reason they are more

>> expensive; another reason is that you are entitled to limited support

>> from Microsoft.) You just need to know that you cannot use your

>> license on more than one PC *at a time*. So if you ever get another

>> PC, you could remove XP from your HP (reformatting the hard drive

>> would accomplish this) and then install it on the new PC. But if it

>> were me, I'd just stick with the license you already have -- chances

>> are your next PC will have Vista. :-)

>>

>

[Guest Bruce Chambers]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

James wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop

> computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole

> software package that came with the computer and is not a separate disc.

> I was wondering if I bought a new full version XP disc and used it to

> load XP on my HP desktop computer in the future. Would the new XP disc

> continue to load if I use the key code that came with my HP computer

> instead of using the key code that came with the disc? In other words;

> could I use the new disc just for installing XP on my desktop and then

> use the new disc and the licenses that came with it to install on

> another computer? I don't like how the recovery disc that came with the

> computer installs on my HP computer and I was wondering if I could share

> the disc. That is why I am asking this question.

>

> Any information would be appreciated. I hope everyone has a Safe & Happy

> Memorial Day!

>

> Thanks,

> James

>

>

 

 

It is the Product Key that represents the license, not the physical CD.

One can use the same Cd on many computers, provided that one has a

separate Product Key for each installation.

 

If you were to purchase an unbranded, generic OEM WinXP license (the

same edition - Home or Pro - as is installed on the HP), you should be

able to install that on the HP using the OEM Product Key. Then you

could use the Product Key that came with the unbranded, generic OEM CD

on a second computer. You'd have two Product Keys, so you'd have two

licenses.

 

Bear in mind, though, that for this to work, the unbranded, generic OEM

license that you purchase *must* be of the same WinXP Edition as came

pre-installed on the HP.

 

Product Keys are bound to the specific type and language of

CD/license (OEM, Volume, retail, or full) with which they are purchased.

For example, a WinXP Home OEM Product Key won't work for any retail

version of WinXP Home, or for any version of WinXP Pro, and vice versa.

An OEM Product Key will not work to install a retail product. An

Italian Product Key will not work with an English CD. Bottom line:

Product Keys and CD/license types cannot usually (it's been reported

that the Product Key for a full license will work with an Upgrade CD) be

mixed & matched.

 

 

--

 

Bruce Chambers

 

Help us help you:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

 

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

 

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

killed a great many philosophers.

~ Denis Diderot

[Guest Bruce Chambers]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

James wrote:

 

Snipped ....

> I see them on eBay for sale

> here and there. Could I buy one of them and use it the way I explained?

 

Snipped....

 

 

Getting a legitimate license of any kind from eBay is something of a

crap shoot. One should be very careful buying any software on eBay,

as eBay makes no prior effort to ensure that such sales are legitimate.

The problems stem from two completely different sources, but have the

same results: the buyer gets ripped off. A great many people don't fully

understand the terms of the license they own, and don't understand that

they cannot legitimately resell it, and - worse still - there are a

great many sellers who do know that they're selling bogus licenses. eBay

reacts only when someone files a complaint, and then all that really

happens, especially in the case of the many deliberate fraudsters, is

the seller of the pirated software returns using a different alias, to

continue selling illegitimate licenses.

 

It might cost a bit more, but you'd be sure of getting a legitimate

license by going to a reputable on-line vendor, such as NewEgg or Amazon.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116515

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116511

 

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-System-Builders-VERSION/dp/B000JTFVME/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1211822627&sr=1-2

 

 

 

--

 

Bruce Chambers

 

Help us help you:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

 

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

 

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

 

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

killed a great many philosophers.

~ Denis Diderot

[Guest James]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

Hello Bruce,

 

Thank you for replying to my questions. You and Dave have been a big help

and I completely understand what I need to do. Thank you so much, I really

appreciate the time you took to help me out. You and Dave are big assets to

this message board. I am glad nice guys like you take the time to help

others out.

 

I hope you are having a Safe and Happy Memorial Day!

 

Thanks again,

James

 

 

 

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

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> James wrote:

>> Hello,

>>

>> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop

>> computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole

>> software package that came with the computer and is not a separate disc.

>> I was wondering if I bought a new full version XP disc and used it to

>> load XP on my HP desktop computer in the future. Would the new XP disc

>> continue to load if I use the key code that came with my HP computer

>> instead of using the key code that came with the disc? In other words;

>> could I use the new disc just for installing XP on my desktop and then

>> use the new disc and the licenses that came with it to install on another

>> computer? I don't like how the recovery disc that came with the computer

>> installs on my HP computer and I was wondering if I could share the disc.

>> That is why I am asking this question.

>>

>> Any information would be appreciated. I hope everyone has a Safe & Happy

>> Memorial Day!

>>

>> Thanks,

>> James

>>

>>

>

>

> It is the Product Key that represents the license, not the physical CD.

> One can use the same Cd on many computers, provided that one has a

> separate Product Key for each installation.

>

> If you were to purchase an unbranded, generic OEM WinXP license (the same

> edition - Home or Pro - as is installed on the HP), you should be able to

> install that on the HP using the OEM Product Key. Then you could use the

> Product Key that came with the unbranded, generic OEM CD on a second

> computer. You'd have two Product Keys, so you'd have two licenses.

>

> Bear in mind, though, that for this to work, the unbranded, generic OEM

> license that you purchase *must* be of the same WinXP Edition as came

> pre-installed on the HP.

>

> Product Keys are bound to the specific type and language of CD/license

> (OEM, Volume, retail, or full) with which they are purchased. For example,

> a WinXP Home OEM Product Key won't work for any retail version of WinXP

> Home, or for any version of WinXP Pro, and vice versa. An OEM Product Key

> will not work to install a retail product. An Italian Product Key will

> not work with an English CD. Bottom line: Product Keys and CD/license

> types cannot usually (it's been reported that the Product Key for a full

> license will work with an Upgrade CD) be mixed & matched.

>

>

> --

>

> Bruce Chambers

>

> Help us help you:

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

>

> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

>

> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand

> Russell

>

> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

> killed a great many philosophers.

> ~ Denis Diderot

[Guest James]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

Hello Dave,

 

Thank you! You are a very big help! I really appreciate it and will follow

everything you said. Oh; My dad's computer is only about 2 or 3 years old

and is very capable of evening running Vista, with a RAM upgrade. He had the

computer built with Windows 98 SE installed because he does a lot of work

using Dos and did not want to lose that capability. I told him about setting

up a dual boot with XP and 98. This way he could still do dos on 98 and then

use XP for everything else. He has had trouble with his computer running

win98 since he got it, but stuck with it to run dos. I worked on his

computer the past week and he is pretty happy with it right now (knock on

wood). I told him he will still have trouble because of win98 and explained

the dual boot would be best. I think he wants to wait until he has trouble

again.

 

I just needed to find out what I asked now so I could buy an XP Disc before

they are no longer for sale. You are a big asset to this message board!

 

Thanks again,

James

 

 

"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

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>I follow.

>

> First of all, stay away from Ebay. Although I'm sure there are some

> reputable sellers there, I know there are many who aren't; there have been

> a good number of posts here from people who have been ripped off.

>

> Now that SP3 is out, I would recommend purchasing an OEM CD that has SP3

> integrated from a merchant such as New Egg:

>

> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116511&Tpk=32-116-511

>

> You can also compare prices using sites such as NexTag.com and

> PriceGrabber.com .

>

> This is not only an affordable option, but it will allow you to use it on

> your HP (just use the product key on your HP's COA sticker) *and* you can

> use it on your father's PC (use the product key that comes with the CD).

> Of course, your father's PC's specs will have to be adequate to warrant

> installing XP; older PCs are better off running 98SE.

>

> Hope this helps, and happy Memorial Day to you, too!

>

>

> "James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:48B04702-994B-405E-A2FC-57B60F9333F9@microsoft.com...

>> Hi Dave,

>>

>> Thank you so much for replying to my question and for covering the issue

>> in such detail. You are very kind to take so much time to explain all

>> this to me. I do want to make sure of one thing though. You know what

>> happens when you assume.

>>

>> First; as you read I want the disc for myself in case I have to do a

>> fresh install and also for the reason you stated; "a repair install" or

>> for startup repair, etc. I also want a second licenses for my dad. Right

>> now he is still running win98 and may some time in the future want to go

>> to XP. Since XP is not going to be out on the shelves much longer I

>> wanted to have a disc in case he ever wanted to update. Since I wanted a

>> disc anyway I am trying to save him money by me buying a disc and giving

>> him the licenses. Now with you knowing what I am trying to accomplish

>> could I do this using a new XP OEM discs? I see them on eBay for sale

>> here and there. Could I buy one of them and use it the way I explained? I

>> believe I can from your explanation, but I don't want to assume. It has

>> got me into trouble before.

>>

>> Thanks again for all your help. It is very kind of you and I appreciate

>> it. I hope you are having a Safe and Happy Memorial Day!

>>

>> Best regards,

>> James

>>

>>

>> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:OBOZo1uvIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> "James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:13FFCFB6-E693-4EF8-84AD-99E8C040A287@microsoft.com...

>>>

>>>> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop

>>>> computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole

>>>> software package that came with the computer and is not a separate

>>>> disc. I was wondering if I bought a new full version XP disc and used

>>>> it to load XP on my HP desktop computer in the future. Would the new XP

>>>> disc continue to load if I use the key code that came with my HP

>>>> computer instead of using the key code that came with the disc? In

>>>> other words; could I use the new disc just for installing XP on my

>>>> desktop and then use the new disc and the licenses that came with it to

>>>> install on another computer? I don't like how the recovery disc that

>>>> came with the computer installs on my HP computer and I was wondering

>>>> if I could share the disc. That is why I am asking this question.

>>>

>>> Since you already paid for your license, there is no need to give any

>>> more money to Microsoft! Hopefully a friend, neighbor, relative, or

>>> co-worker has a generic OEM XP Home disc you may borrow. If so, make a

>>> copy for yourself (this is not piracy because owning the *license* is

>>> what's important). Then you may use the disk to perform a clean install.

>>> The product key on your Certificate of Authenticity sticker will work.

>>> If you ever need to perform a repair install down the road, you can also

>>> use that disk.

>>>

>>> If you are unable to obtain a generic OEM XP Home disk, you might be

>>> able to make your own, provided you have access to the I386 folder.

>>> Instructions can be found at:

>>>

>>> http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml

>>>

>>> (Some people have had success downloading XP via P2P, but I don't

>>> recommend this method since there's no guarantee you won't also be

>>> downloading viruses, etc.)

>>>

>>> If for some reason you wish to pay for a *retail* CD of XP Home, you can

>>> use it on your HP, of course, but you would also *eventually* be able to

>>> use it on another PC if you wish. Unlike OEM licenses (which are forever

>>> tied to the one PC on which they are installed), retail licenses are

>>> transferable. (That's one reason they are more expensive; another reason

>>> is that you are entitled to limited support from Microsoft.) You just

>>> need to know that you cannot use your license on more than one PC *at a

>>> time*. So if you ever get another PC, you could remove XP from your HP

>>> (reformatting the hard drive would accomplish this) and then install it

>>> on the new PC. But if it were me, I'd just stick with the license you

>>> already have -- chances are your next PC will have Vista. :-)

>>>

>>

>

>

[Guest Bruce Chambers]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

James wrote:

> Hello Bruce,

>

> Thank you for replying to my questions. You and Dave have been a big

> help and I completely understand what I need to do. Thank you so much, I

> really appreciate the time you took to help me out. You and Dave are big

> assets to this message board. I am glad nice guys like you take the time

> to help others out.

>

 

You're welcome.

> I hope you are having a Safe and Happy Memorial Day!

>

 

And the same to you.

 

 

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[Guest Daave]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

Glad I could help, James.

 

"James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:9A271CCE-77A2-4973-999D-4C85359B62D1@microsoft.com...

> Hello Dave,

>

> Thank you! You are a very big help! I really appreciate it and will

> follow

> everything you said. Oh; My dad's computer is only about 2 or 3 years

> old

> and is very capable of evening running Vista, with a RAM upgrade. He

> had the

> computer built with Windows 98 SE installed because he does a lot of

> work

> using Dos and did not want to lose that capability. I told him about

> setting

> up a dual boot with XP and 98. This way he could still do dos on 98

> and then

> use XP for everything else. He has had trouble with his computer

> running

> win98 since he got it, but stuck with it to run dos. I worked on his

> computer the past week and he is pretty happy with it right now (knock

> on

> wood). I told him he will still have trouble because of win98 and

> explained

> the dual boot would be best. I think he wants to wait until he has

> trouble

> again.

>

> I just needed to find out what I asked now so I could buy an XP Disc

> before

> they are no longer for sale. You are a big asset to this message

> board!

>

> Thanks again,

> James

>

>

> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

> news:O9hpqF1vIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>I follow.

>>

>> First of all, stay away from Ebay. Although I'm sure there are some

>> reputable sellers there, I know there are many who aren't; there have

>> been a good number of posts here from people who have been ripped

>> off.

>>

>> Now that SP3 is out, I would recommend purchasing an OEM CD that has

>> SP3 integrated from a merchant such as New Egg:

>>

>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116511&Tpk=32-116-511

>>

>> You can also compare prices using sites such as NexTag.com and

>> PriceGrabber.com .

>>

>> This is not only an affordable option, but it will allow you to use

>> it on your HP (just use the product key on your HP's COA sticker)

>> *and* you can use it on your father's PC (use the product key that

>> comes with the CD). Of course, your father's PC's specs will have to

>> be adequate to warrant installing XP; older PCs are better off

>> running 98SE.

>>

>> Hope this helps, and happy Memorial Day to you, too!

>>

>>

>> "James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:48B04702-994B-405E-A2FC-57B60F9333F9@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi Dave,

>>>

>>> Thank you so much for replying to my question and for covering the

>>> issue in such detail. You are very kind to take so much time to

>>> explain all this to me. I do want to make sure of one thing though.

>>> You know what happens when you assume.

>>>

>>> First; as you read I want the disc for myself in case I have to do a

>>> fresh install and also for the reason you stated; "a repair install"

>>> or for startup repair, etc. I also want a second licenses for my

>>> dad. Right now he is still running win98 and may some time in the

>>> future want to go to XP. Since XP is not going to be out on the

>>> shelves much longer I wanted to have a disc in case he ever wanted

>>> to update. Since I wanted a disc anyway I am trying to save him

>>> money by me buying a disc and giving him the licenses. Now with you

>>> knowing what I am trying to accomplish could I do this using a new

>>> XP OEM discs? I see them on eBay for sale here and there. Could I

>>> buy one of them and use it the way I explained? I believe I can from

>>> your explanation, but I don't want to assume. It has got me into

>>> trouble before.

>>>

>>> Thanks again for all your help. It is very kind of you and I

>>> appreciate it. I hope you are having a Safe and Happy Memorial Day!

>>>

>>> Best regards,

>>> James

>>>

>>>

>>> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

>>> news:OBOZo1uvIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> "James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:13FFCFB6-E693-4EF8-84AD-99E8C040A287@microsoft.com...

>>>>

>>>>> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP

>>>>> Desktop computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part

>>>>> of the whole software package that came with the computer and is

>>>>> not a separate disc. I was wondering if I bought a new full

>>>>> version XP disc and used it to load XP on my HP desktop computer

>>>>> in the future. Would the new XP disc continue to load if I use the

>>>>> key code that came with my HP computer instead of using the key

>>>>> code that came with the disc? In other words; could I use the new

>>>>> disc just for installing XP on my desktop and then use the new

>>>>> disc and the licenses that came with it to install on another

>>>>> computer? I don't like how the recovery disc that came with the

>>>>> computer installs on my HP computer and I was wondering if I could

>>>>> share the disc. That is why I am asking this question.

>>>>

>>>> Since you already paid for your license, there is no need to give

>>>> any more money to Microsoft! Hopefully a friend, neighbor,

>>>> relative, or co-worker has a generic OEM XP Home disc you may

>>>> borrow. If so, make a copy for yourself (this is not piracy because

>>>> owning the *license* is what's important). Then you may use the

>>>> disk to perform a clean install. The product key on your

>>>> Certificate of Authenticity sticker will work. If you ever need to

>>>> perform a repair install down the road, you can also use that disk.

>>>>

>>>> If you are unable to obtain a generic OEM XP Home disk, you might

>>>> be able to make your own, provided you have access to the I386

>>>> folder. Instructions can be found at:

>>>>

>>>> http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml

>>>>

>>>> (Some people have had success downloading XP via P2P, but I don't

>>>> recommend this method since there's no guarantee you won't also be

>>>> downloading viruses, etc.)

>>>>

>>>> If for some reason you wish to pay for a *retail* CD of XP Home,

>>>> you can use it on your HP, of course, but you would also

>>>> *eventually* be able to use it on another PC if you wish. Unlike

>>>> OEM licenses (which are forever tied to the one PC on which they

>>>> are installed), retail licenses are transferable. (That's one

>>>> reason they are more expensive; another reason is that you are

>>>> entitled to limited support from Microsoft.) You just need to know

>>>> that you cannot use your license on more than one PC *at a time*.

>>>> So if you ever get another PC, you could remove XP from your HP

>>>> (reformatting the hard drive would accomplish this) and then

>>>> install it on the new PC. But if it were me, I'd just stick with

>>>> the license you already have -- chances are your next PC will have

>>>> Vista. :-)

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

[Guest crazyal]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

yes it worked for me when i used a seperate xp disc on my acer laptop

when i had to reinstall xp (i didn't what to got throught the hastle

of removing all the preinstalled software including nortan, which i

hate!)

[Guest James]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

Hi Al,

 

Thank you for adding to my question. I am glad to hear that this was

actually done. I really appreciate that you and all the others took the time

to to respond. It is good to know there are still great people in this

world.

 

Thanks again everyone and I hope you all are having a Safe and Happy

Holiday!

 

Take care,

James

 

 

 

"crazyal" <crazyal12@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

news:6e6fc928-6e38-4edf-8970-7bc7bc30fe6c@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> yes it worked for me when i used a seperate xp disc on my acer laptop

> when i had to reinstall xp (i didn't what to got throught the hastle

> of removing all the preinstalled software including nortan, which i

> hate!)

[Guest HeyBub]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

James wrote:

> Hi JS,

>

> Thank you for responding to me question and for your input. It is

> greatly appreciated. I hope you are enjoying the Memorial Day

> weekend. Stay safe!

 

Memorial Day is a remembrance of why we ARE safe:

 

"We sleep safe at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on

those who would do us harm."

[Guest ANONYMOUS]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

 

You can create an Install CD from your existing system provided you have

Windows Serial number (at the back of your system or at the bottom of

Laptop). and a folder called i386 on your HD drive. this folder should

be at the root of the HD.

 

 

 

James wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop

> computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole

> software package that came with the computer and is not a separate

> disc. I was wondering if I bought a new full version XP disc and used

> it to load XP on my HP desktop computer in the future. Would the new

> XP disc continue to load if I use the key code that came with my HP

> computer instead of using the key code that came with the disc? In

> other words; could I use the new disc just for installing XP on my

> desktop and then use the new disc and the licenses that came with it

> to install on another computer? I don't like how the recovery disc

> that came with the computer installs on my HP computer and I was

> wondering if I could share the disc. That is why I am asking this

> question.

>

> Any information would be appreciated. I hope everyone has a Safe &

> Happy Memorial Day!

>

> Thanks,

> James

>

>

[Guest ANONYMOUS]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

DAAVE,

 

He can create an install CD (SP3 version) for himself without forking

out any more money. He can slipstream SP3 to his files in i386 folder.

He should give a try before spending any money.

 

hth

 

 

Daave wrote:

>I follow.

>

>First of all, stay away from Ebay. Although I'm sure there are some

>reputable sellers there, I know there are many who aren't; there have

>been a good number of posts here from people who have been ripped off.

>

>Now that SP3 is out, I would recommend purchasing an OEM CD that has SP3

>integrated from a merchant such as New Egg:

>

>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116511&Tpk=32-116-511

>

>You can also compare prices using sites such as NexTag.com and

>PriceGrabber.com .

>

>This is not only an affordable option, but it will allow you to use it

>on your HP (just use the product key on your HP's COA sticker) *and* you

>can use it on your father's PC (use the product key that comes with the

>CD). Of course, your father's PC's specs will have to be adequate to

>warrant installing XP; older PCs are better off running 98SE.

>

>Hope this helps, and happy Memorial Day to you, too!

>

>

>"James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>news:48B04702-994B-405E-A2FC-57B60F9333F9@microsoft.com...

>

>

>>Hi Dave,

>>

>>Thank you so much for replying to my question and for covering the

>>issue in such detail. You are very kind to take so much time to

>>explain all this to me. I do want to make sure of one thing though.

>>You know what happens when you assume.

>>

>>First; as you read I want the disc for myself in case I have to do a

>>fresh install and also for the reason you stated; "a repair install"

>>or for startup repair, etc. I also want a second licenses for my dad.

>>Right now he is still running win98 and may some time in the future

>>want to go to XP. Since XP is not going to be out on the shelves much

>>longer I wanted to have a disc in case he ever wanted to update. Since

>>I wanted a disc anyway I am trying to save him money by me buying a

>>disc and giving him the licenses. Now with you knowing what I am

>>trying to accomplish could I do this using a new XP OEM discs? I see

>>them on eBay for sale here and there. Could I buy one of them and use

>>it the way I explained? I believe I can from your explanation, but I

>>don't want to assume. It has got me into trouble before.

>>

>>Thanks again for all your help. It is very kind of you and I

>>appreciate it. I hope you are having a Safe and Happy Memorial Day!

>>

>>Best regards,

>>James

>>

>>

>>"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

>>news:OBOZo1uvIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>

>>

>>>"James" <flyerfanno1@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>news:13FFCFB6-E693-4EF8-84AD-99E8C040A287@microsoft.com...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP

>>>>Desktop computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of

>>>>the whole software package that came with the computer and is not a

>>>>separate disc. I was wondering if I bought a new full version XP

>>>>disc and used it to load XP on my HP desktop computer in the future.

>>>>Would the new XP disc continue to load if I use the key code that

>>>>came with my HP computer instead of using the key code that came

>>>>with the disc? In other words; could I use the new disc just for

>>>>installing XP on my desktop and then use the new disc and the

>>>>licenses that came with it to install on another computer? I don't

>>>>like how the recovery disc that came with the computer installs on

>>>>my HP computer and I was wondering if I could share the disc. That

>>>>is why I am asking this question.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>Since you already paid for your license, there is no need to give any

>>>more money to Microsoft! Hopefully a friend, neighbor, relative, or

>>>co-worker has a generic OEM XP Home disc you may borrow. If so, make

>>>a copy for yourself (this is not piracy because owning the *license*

>>>is what's important). Then you may use the disk to perform a clean

>>>install. The product key on your Certificate of Authenticity sticker

>>>will work. If you ever need to perform a repair install down the

>>>road, you can also use that disk.

>>>

>>>If you are unable to obtain a generic OEM XP Home disk, you might be

>>>able to make your own, provided you have access to the I386 folder.

>>>Instructions can be found at:

>>>

>>>http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml

>>>

>>>(Some people have had success downloading XP via P2P, but I don't

>>>recommend this method since there's no guarantee you won't also be

>>>downloading viruses, etc.)

>>>

>>>If for some reason you wish to pay for a *retail* CD of XP Home, you

>>>can use it on your HP, of course, but you would also *eventually* be

>>>able to use it on another PC if you wish. Unlike OEM licenses (which

>>>are forever tied to the one PC on which they are installed), retail

>>>licenses are transferable. (That's one reason they are more

>>>expensive; another reason is that you are entitled to limited support

>>>from Microsoft.) You just need to know that you cannot use your

>>>license on more than one PC *at a time*. So if you ever get another

>>>PC, you could remove XP from your HP (reformatting the hard drive

>>>would accomplish this) and then install it on the new PC. But if it

>>>were me, I'd just stick with the license you already have -- chances

>>>are your next PC will have Vista. :-)

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest Daave]

Re: Installing XP & Key code question

 

"ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message

news:OCku9m3vIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> DAAVE,

>

> He can create an install CD (SP3 version) for himself without forking

> out any more money. He can slipstream SP3 to his files in i386

> folder. He should give a try before spending any money.

>

> hth

 

That advice sounds familiar for some reason. Oh that's right, it was my

initial advice:

>>>>If you are unable to obtain a generic OEM XP Home disk, you might be

>>>>able to make your own, provided you have access to the I386 folder.

>>>>Instructions can be found at:

>>>>

>>>>http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml

 

But if you read James's other post, he indicated he wanted to purchase

*another* license *for his father*. So that is why I wrote the

following:

>>This is not only an affordable option, but it will allow you to use it

>>on your HP (just use the product key on your HP's COA sticker) *and*

>>you can use it on your father's PC (use the product key that comes

>>with the CD). Of course, your father's PC's specs will have to be

>>adequate to warrant installing XP; older PCs are better off running

>>98SE.

 

You should really read the posts before you respond to them!