IE Running well so far

May 26, 2008

Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through this. Someone

sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able to run the

repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup items with help

from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download IE6sp1 zip from an

e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your advice on just about

every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24 hours just going

through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think what did it is I

removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that was the name. and I

only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web protection or e-mail.

Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

I ran scandisk.

I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my computer any

referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had are gone. A few

little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get an error message

that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from now on and send

messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

thank you all.

May 26, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through this.

Someone

> sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able to

run the

> repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup

items with help

> from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download IE6sp1

zip from an

> e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your advice on

just about

> every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24 hours

just going

> through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think what

did it is I

> removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that was the

name. and I

> only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web protection

or e-mail.

> Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

> I ran scandisk.

> I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my

computer any

> referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had are

gone. A few

> little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get an

error message

> that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from now on

and send

> messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

> thank you all.

>

Thank you for posting back and letting everyone know what happened.

Looks like the firewall had been the cause of your problem.

I had a firewall that had been working fine for years...

then one day decided to block all my *outgoing* mail. That was an odd one.

May 26, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

On Mon, 26 May 2008 02:18:52 -0400, "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com>

wrote:

>Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through this. Someone

>sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able to run the

>repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup items with help

>from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download IE6sp1 zip from an

>e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your advice on just about

>every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24 hours just going

>through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think what did it is I

>removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that was the name. and I

>only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web protection or e-mail.

>Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

>I ran scandisk.

>I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my computer any

>referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had are gone. A few

>little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get an error message

>that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from now on and send

>messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

>thank you all.

>

Glad to hear you finally got it working. I tried a firewall once and

found it was a pain in the ass. I dont use them anymore.

As far as your outbox problem:

I dont use Outlook Express, but all email software has an outbox.

Maybe yours is overloaded with too many old messages, or the outbox is

corrupt. I'd backup your whole OE folder just in case you want to go

back to something in your outbox. Then remove everything in your

outbox. Close OE, restart it, and see if that solves the problem.

If OE has a "compact mailboxes" option, use it. I use Eudora, and I

have that option.

When you are finished online for the day, you should defrag your

harddrive after akk these changes and modifications,

Either click on the DEFRAG icon, or go to START, RUN, and type in

"defrag.exe". Hit enter key.

May 27, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

This is the advice from Avast!:

> You should allow web shield avast! provider to access internet in your

firewall settings.

>

> You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall, then start avast

update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When firewall

asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the rule again. If

your firewall has option that allowed program changes often, set it too.

>

> For the correct operation the Web Shield process (ashWebSv.exe or

aswWebSv.exe)

> needs a permission to access the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission

to act as a server and accept incoming

> connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port 12080.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

news:DpOdnXbv1ZDMP6fVnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@ntd.net...

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through

>> this.

> Someone

>> sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able to

> run the

>> repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup

> items with help

>> from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download IE6sp1

> zip from an

>> e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your advice

>> on

> just about

>> every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24 hours

> just going

>> through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think what

> did it is I

>> removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that was the

> name. and I

>> only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web protection

> or e-mail.

>> Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

>> I ran scandisk.

>> I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my

> computer any

>> referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had are

> gone. A few

>> little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get an

> error message

>> that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from now on

> and send

>> messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

>> thank you all.

>>

>

> Thank you for posting back and letting everyone know what happened.

> Looks like the firewall had been the cause of your problem.

>

> I had a firewall that had been working fine for years...

> then one day decided to block all my *outgoing* mail. That was an odd one.

>

May 27, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and what

disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief was that the

machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to get rid of the

firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps, reinstall IE, etc.

There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router, and it seems to

be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web Shield out fixed

the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response, though it doesn't

explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was

completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the original

install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this cable company,

all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable company's

"reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff

out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will be replaced,

soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.

Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU and got

three updates, but then went back and one kept being reoffered. This was the

issue:

http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

More to come if I remember more...

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through this.

> Someone

> sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able to

> run the

> repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup

> items with help

> from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download IE6sp1

> zip from an

> e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your advice on

> just about

> every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24 hours

> just going

> through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think what

> did it is I

> removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that was the

> name. and I

> only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web protection

> or e-mail.

> Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

> I ran scandisk.

> I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my

> computer any

> referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had are

> gone. A few

> little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get an

> error message

> that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from now on

> and send

> messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

> thank you all.

>

May 27, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are there still issues

with it? Just curious..

--

MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and what

| disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief was that

the

| machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to get rid of

the

| firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps, reinstall IE,

etc.

| There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router, and it seems

to

| be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web Shield out

fixed

| the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response, though it

doesn't

| explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was

| completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

|

| I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the

original

| install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this cable

company,

| all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable company's

| "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff

| out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will be replaced,

| soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.

|

| Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU and

got

| three updates, but then went back and one kept being reoffered. This was

the

| issue:

| http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

|

| More to come if I remember more...

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through

this.

| > Someone

| > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able to

| > run the

| > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup

| > items with help

| > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download IE6sp1

| > zip from an

| > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your advice

on

| > just about

| > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24 hours

| > just going

| > through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think

what

| > did it is I

| > removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that was

the

| > name. and I

| > only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

protection

| > or e-mail.

| > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

| > I ran scandisk.

| > I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my

| > computer any

| > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had are

| > gone. A few

| > little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get an

| > error message

| > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from now on

| > and send

| > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

| > thank you all.

| >

|

May 27, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353. But I'm not clear

that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so I'm not sure.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are there still issues

> with it? Just curious..

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and what

> | disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief was that

> the

> | machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to get rid of

> the

> | firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps, reinstall IE,

> etc.

> | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router, and it seems

> to

> | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web Shield out

> fixed

> | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response, though it

> doesn't

> | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was

> | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

> |

> | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the

> original

> | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this cable

> company,

> | all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable company's

> | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard to sort

> stuff

> | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will be

> replaced,

> | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.

> |

> | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU and

> got

> | three updates, but then went back and one kept being reoffered. This was

> the

> | issue:

> | http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

> |

> | More to come if I remember more...

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

> |

> | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through

> this.

> | > Someone

> | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able

> to

> | > run the

> | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup

> | > items with help

> | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

> IE6sp1

> | > zip from an

> | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

> advice

> on

> | > just about

> | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24

> hours

> | > just going

> | > through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think

> what

> | > did it is I

> | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that was

> the

> | > name. and I

> | > only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

> protection

> | > or e-mail.

> | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

> | > I ran scandisk.

> | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my

> | > computer any

> | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had are

> | > gone. A few

> | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get an

> | > error message

> | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from now

> on

> | > and send

> | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

> | > thank you all.

> | >

> |

>

May 27, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything else [file checks,

anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see if anything is

messed up.

Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and iuhist.xml if you used

windowsupdate during the process.

--

MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353. But I'm not clear

| that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so I'm not sure.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are there still

issues

| > with it? Just curious..

| >

| > --

| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

what

| > | disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief was

that

| > the

| > | machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to get rid

of

| > the

| > | firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps, reinstall IE,

| > etc.

| > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router, and it

seems

| > to

| > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web Shield out

| > fixed

| > | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response, though it

| > doesn't

| > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast!

was

| > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

| > |

| > | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the

| > original

| > | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this cable

| > company,

| > | all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable company's

| > | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard to sort

| > stuff

| > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will be

| > replaced,

| > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.

| > |

| > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU

and

| > got

| > | three updates, but then went back and one kept being reoffered. This

was

| > the

| > | issue:

| > |

http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

| > |

| > | More to come if I remember more...

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > |

| > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through

| > this.

| > | > Someone

| > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able

| > to

| > | > run the

| > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my

startup

| > | > items with help

| > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

| > IE6sp1

| > | > zip from an

| > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

| > advice

| > on

| > | > just about

| > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24

| > hours

| > | > just going

| > | > through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think

| > what

| > | > did it is I

| > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that

was

| > the

| > | > name. and I

| > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

| > protection

| > | > or e-mail.

| > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

| > | > I ran scandisk.

| > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my

| > | > computer any

| > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had

are

| > | > gone. A few

| > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get

an

| > | > error message

| > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from

now

| > on

| > | > and send

| > | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

| > | > thank you all.

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 27, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried it. What I don't get is

where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it offered by Windows Updates.

Thing is, KB823353 = MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13. The notes in

MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.

IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer KB823353 to my system. I'd

be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove Programs, do you have either

of these Updates listed (or both)?

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything else [file checks,

> anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see if anything is

> messed up.

> Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and iuhist.xml if you used

> windowsupdate during the process.

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353. But I'm not

> clear

> | that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so I'm not sure.

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are there still

> issues

> | > with it? Just curious..

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

> what

> | > | disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief was

> that

> | > the

> | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to get rid

> of

> | > the

> | > | firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps, reinstall

> IE,

> | > etc.

> | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router, and it

> seems

> | > to

> | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web Shield

> out

> | > fixed

> | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response, though it

> | > doesn't

> | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast!

> was

> | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

> | > |

> | > | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the

> | > original

> | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this cable

> | > company,

> | > | all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable

> company's

> | > | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard to sort

> | > stuff

> | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will be

> | > replaced,

> | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.

> | > |

> | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU

> and

> | > got

> | > | three updates, but then went back and one kept being reoffered. This

> was

> | > the

> | > | issue:

> | > |

> http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

> | > |

> | > | More to come if I remember more...

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > |

> | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me

> through

> | > this.

> | > | > Someone

> | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was

> able

> | > to

> | > | > run the

> | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my

> startup

> | > | > items with help

> | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

> | > IE6sp1

> | > | > zip from an

> | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

> | > advice

> | > on

> | > | > just about

> | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24

> | > hours

> | > | > just going

> | > | > through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I

> think

> | > what

> | > | > did it is I

> | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that

> was

> | > the

> | > | > name. and I

> | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

> | > protection

> | > | > or e-mail.

> | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

> | > | > I ran scandisk.

> | > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start

> my

> | > | > computer any

> | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had

> are

> | > | > gone. A few

> | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I

> get

> an

> | > | > error message

> | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from

> now

> | > on

> | > | > and send

> | > | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

> | > | > thank you all.

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> |

>

May 27, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

I was a little too daunted by CdLSRN's long threads to finish reading

through them, I'm glad she is up and running again.

Anyway, a question. Last night I was installing Office97 in a laptop and I

noticed a folder on the CD, "VALUPACK". In VALUPACK there is a folder

IEXPLORE, and in the folder is the file IE4SETUP.EXE.

A lot of 98 users may still have this disk that came with their $2200.00 PII

desktops (and why not, it's a great program, and the security updates can

still be downloaded from Microsoft and burned to CD). So the obvious

question regarding Ginny's situation is, if she had the Office97 disk could

she have uninstalled IE6, installed IE4, navigated to Microsoft.com and got

IE6 going again from there?

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

> what disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief

> was that the machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were

> able to get rid of the firewall and a couple of other things, update

> some apps, reinstall IE, etc. There is another firewall in the mix,

> on the Belkin router, and it seems to be blocking Avast!, too. So we

> discovered that leaving Web Shield out fixed the problem with Avast!,

> just before their tech response, though it doesn't explain how the

> no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was completely

> uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

>

> I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the

> original install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then

> this cable company, all with their installations of branded stuff,

> and the cable company's "reach into your system and FIX things"

> umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff out. Cleaned up what was necessary

> to clean up (machine will be replaced, soon.) Further scans need to

> be run and a HJT log done right.

>

> Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU

> and got three updates, but then went back and one kept being

> reoffered. This was the issue:

> http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

>

> More to come if I remember more...

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through

>> this. Someone

>> sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able

>> to run the

>> repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup

>> items with help

>> from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

>> IE6sp1 zip from an

>> e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

>> advice on just about

>> every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24

>> hours just going

>> through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think

>> what did it is I

>> removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that

>> was the name. and I

>> only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

>> protection or e-mail.

>> Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

>> I ran scandisk.

>> I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my

>> computer any

>> referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had

>> are gone. A few

>> little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get

>> an error message

>> that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from

>> now on and send

>> messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

>> thank you all.

May 27, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

837009 is listed on this system. The only 82**** in Add/Remove I presently

have is 823559. Its not shown in IE or iuhist either. Would this be related

to the SecCD usage perhaps?

I agree, if that was, in fact, the supposed update/supercede, then that is

what should be offered. There were installation issues associated with it,

so MAYBE Microsoft determined it would just delete/not offer it or SecCD

somehow over-rides installation. It did, however, appear in the old

installations [not SecCD updated] documented in 2006.

Affected Software:

.. Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6a

.. Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a

.. Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server Edition Service Pack 6

.. Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack

3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4

.. Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1

.. Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Service Pack 1

.. Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Version 2003

.. Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003

.. Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition

.. Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition (SE), and

Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me) - Review the FAQ section of this

bulletin for details about these operating systems.

INFORMATION/DATA saved for 823353 shows [02/07 and 02/16 of 2006]:

> Answering to PA Bear, now with 887797 and 897715 missing, 823353 is the

only

> reported update by Windows update...

>

> msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll are now 6.00.2800.1478 while wab32.dll is

> 6.00.2800.1106.

Well, msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll have the version numbers of the files

contained in KB887797 *not* KB823353 while the wab32.dll is the version

coming with plain SP1 (no KB823353 nor KB887797 installed). You have

a "wonderful" mix of versions there on your machine right now :-/

So I stress you to install KB823353 with the /n:v parameter once

again (IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v). Please try this one in

normal mode, *not* safe mode. Afterwards please compare the versions

of the following files with the ones on your machine - yes, *all*

of them! In the brackets you can find the version and date of the

files wich are contained in KB823353:

directdb.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)

inetcomm.dll (6.0.2800.1441 - 07.06.2004)

inetres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

msident.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

msimn.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

msoe.dll (6.0.2800.1437 - 26.05.2004)

msoeacct.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

msoeres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

msoert2.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)

oeimport.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

oemig50.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

oemiglib.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

wab32.dll (6.0.2800.1450 - 24.06.2004)

wab.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

wabfind.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

wabimp.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

wabmig.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)

Could you please afterwards open Internet Explorer, have look in

"? -> Info" and please post *all* what's listet there behind and

under the "Update Version" section? Yes *all* these "Q......"'s.

AND:

Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 1:39 pm

From: "PA Bear"

Thanks, Freudi.

Dimitri, here's another description of how to do what Freudi's asked you to

try:

<paste>

Close OE. Clear History, delete Cookies and delete Temporary Internet Files

via IE: Tools > Options > General, then...

1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service

Pack 1 (KB823353; all OSS) from the following link, saving it to your

Desktop:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=AD6A96BC-DAF0-4EAB-89B8-BD702B3E3E5D&displaylang=en

(or http://snipurl.com/8x9i)

[ Optional: 2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode. (During the reboot, keep

pressing the F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears > Choose Safe

Mode > Enter.) ]

3. Rename the downloaded file to KB823353.EXE and copy it to C:\ (the root

directory of drive C; assumes drive C is the boot drive)

4. Start > Run > (type in) C:\KB823353.EXE /N:V (Note the space) > press

ENTER

5. Close the command window.

6. Reboot [into Windows] and then check in at Windows Update to see KB823353

is still offered.

</paste>

Don't install any other OE updates, just answer #6 above and either state

the current versions of MSOE.DLL and INETCOMM.DLL or post your reply using

OE instead of the web interface.

~PA Bear

Ottmar Freudenberger wrote:

<snip>

> Okay, so you've skipped the steps I've mentioned after having KB823353

> installed? ;-)

>

> Uninstall them (KB887797 and KB897715) once again please.

>

> After you've unistalled them, try to install KB823353 with the parameter

> "/n:v".

> Assuming you've saved the "IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe" file in

> "C:\Downloads", you would have to enter the following in "Run" in the

> Start menu:

>

> C:\Downloads\IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v

>

> Note, there's a blank after the EXE and no blank in the parameter.

> Let me know, if the installation of KB823353 has been successful this time

<snip>

Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 6:19 pm

From: "PA Bear"

ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet Explorer due to

defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security update 896688

(MS05-052): http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889

A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may not load as expected

in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes introduced in

cumulative security update 896688 (MS05-052):

http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909738

=> The fix detailed in 909889 involving the Registry and OLE32.DLL is

available at

- http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip or

- http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip (a small VB app that

checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if any of them are

incorrect).

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

> Ralf wrote:

> > I'd like to let the group know that the odd behavior issue which has

been

> > reported from various sources after installing the December Microsoft

> > Updates has been solved. I've posted the details on my blog at

> > http://www.rottmann.net .

> >

--

MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%2361bRhCwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried it. What I don't get

is

| where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it offered by Windows Updates.

| Thing is, KB823353 = MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13. The notes in

| MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.

|

| IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer KB823353 to my system. I'd

| be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove Programs, do you have

either

| of these Updates listed (or both)?

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything else [file checks,

| > anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see if anything is

| > messed up.

| > Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and iuhist.xml if you used

| > windowsupdate during the process.

| >

| > --

| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353. But I'm not

| > clear

| > | that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so I'm not

sure.

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are there still

| > issues

| > | > with it? Just curious..

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > --

| > | > _________

| > | >

| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

| > what

| > | > | disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief

was

| > that

| > | > the

| > | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to get

rid

| > of

| > | > the

| > | > | firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps, reinstall

| > IE,

| > | > etc.

| > | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router, and it

| > seems

| > | > to

| > | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web Shield

| > out

| > | > fixed

| > | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response, though

it

| > | > doesn't

| > | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when

Avast!

| > was

| > | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

| > | > |

| > | > | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is

the

| > | > original

| > | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this

cable

| > | > company,

| > | > | all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable

| > company's

| > | > | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard to

sort

| > | > stuff

| > | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will be

| > | > replaced,

| > | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.

| > | > |

| > | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to

WU

| > and

| > | > got

| > | > | three updates, but then went back and one kept being reoffered.

This

| > was

| > | > the

| > | > | issue:

| > | > |

| > http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

| > | > |

| > | > | More to come if I remember more...

| > | > |

| > | > | --

| > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | > |

| > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me

| > through

| > | > this.

| > | > | > Someone

| > | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was

| > able

| > | > to

| > | > | > run the

| > | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my

| > startup

| > | > | > items with help

| > | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

| > | > IE6sp1

| > | > | > zip from an

| > | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

| > | > advice

| > | > on

| > | > | > just about

| > | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about

24

| > | > hours

| > | > | > just going

| > | > | > through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I

| > think

| > | > what

| > | > | > did it is I

| > | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think

that

| > was

| > | > the

| > | > | > name. and I

| > | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

| > | > protection

| > | > | > or e-mail.

| > | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

| > | > | > I ran scandisk.

| > | > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I

start

| > my

| > | > | > computer any

| > | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never

had

| > are

| > | > | > gone. A few

| > | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I

| > get

| > an

| > | > | > error message

| > | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox

from

| > now

| > | > on

| > | > | > and send

| > | > | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

| > | > | > thank you all.

| > | > | >

| > | > |

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 27, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Unless some thing has changed, IE5.1 is the minimum to access and use

windowsupdate.

--

MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

"Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

news:%23QYEEpCwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| I was a little too daunted by CdLSRN's long threads to finish reading

| through them, I'm glad she is up and running again.

| Anyway, a question. Last night I was installing Office97 in a laptop and I

| noticed a folder on the CD, "VALUPACK". In VALUPACK there is a folder

| IEXPLORE, and in the folder is the file IE4SETUP.EXE.

|

| A lot of 98 users may still have this disk that came with their $2200.00

PII

| desktops (and why not, it's a great program, and the security updates can

| still be downloaded from Microsoft and burned to CD). So the obvious

| question regarding Ginny's situation is, if she had the Office97 disk

could

| she have uninstalled IE6, installed IE4, navigated to Microsoft.com and

got

| IE6 going again from there?

|

| Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

| > what disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief

| > was that the machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were

| > able to get rid of the firewall and a couple of other things, update

| > some apps, reinstall IE, etc. There is another firewall in the mix,

| > on the Belkin router, and it seems to be blocking Avast!, too. So we

| > discovered that leaving Web Shield out fixed the problem with Avast!,

| > just before their tech response, though it doesn't explain how the

| > no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was completely

| > uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

| >

| > I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the

| > original install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then

| > this cable company, all with their installations of branded stuff,

| > and the cable company's "reach into your system and FIX things"

| > umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff out. Cleaned up what was necessary

| > to clean up (machine will be replaced, soon.) Further scans need to

| > be run and a HJT log done right.

| >

| > Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU

| > and got three updates, but then went back and one kept being

| > reoffered. This was the issue:

| > http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

| >

| > More to come if I remember more...

| >

| > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| >> Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through

| >> this. Someone

| >> sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able

| >> to run the

| >> repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup

| >> items with help

| >> from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

| >> IE6sp1 zip from an

| >> e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

| >> advice on just about

| >> every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24

| >> hours just going

| >> through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think

| >> what did it is I

| >> removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that

| >> was the name. and I

| >> only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

| >> protection or e-mail.

| >> Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

| >> I ran scandisk.

| >> I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my

| >> computer any

| >> referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had

| >> are gone. A few

| >> little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get

| >> an error message

| >> that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from

| >> now on and send

| >> messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

| >> thank you all.

|

May 27, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Uninstalling IE gives you two choices -- revert to the version that was

installed immediately before this one (IE 5.5, for instance) and only if the

backup files were saved. You can only do what you're suggesting by using a

third-party app to wipe every component of IE6 and previous versions. I

wouldn't want to do that. Besides, I think your version 4 of IE predates

that which was included in Win98 Gold (4.01), and you can't uninstall that

one, AFAIK.

Besides, the problem wasn't IE, per se, the main problem was firewall(s)

conflicting with Avast!'s WebShield. But then other strange things happened,

probably from whatever stuff the ISP installed, so we did what we could to

fix IE, replace missing files, etc., and it finally all seems to work

(except WebShield, since we haven't messed with her remaining firewall. Not

sure I want to do that over the phone. Not sure I can.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

news:%23QYEEpCwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I was a little too daunted by CdLSRN's long threads to finish reading

> through them, I'm glad she is up and running again.

> Anyway, a question. Last night I was installing Office97 in a laptop and I

> noticed a folder on the CD, "VALUPACK". In VALUPACK there is a folder

> IEXPLORE, and in the folder is the file IE4SETUP.EXE.

>

> A lot of 98 users may still have this disk that came with their $2200.00

> PII

> desktops (and why not, it's a great program, and the security updates can

> still be downloaded from Microsoft and burned to CD). So the obvious

> question regarding Ginny's situation is, if she had the Office97 disk

> could

> she have uninstalled IE6, installed IE4, navigated to Microsoft.com and

> got

> IE6 going again from there?

>

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

>> what disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief

>> was that the machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were

>> able to get rid of the firewall and a couple of other things, update

>> some apps, reinstall IE, etc. There is another firewall in the mix,

>> on the Belkin router, and it seems to be blocking Avast!, too. So we

>> discovered that leaving Web Shield out fixed the problem with Avast!,

>> just before their tech response, though it doesn't explain how the

>> no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was completely

>> uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

>>

>> I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the

>> original install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then

>> this cable company, all with their installations of branded stuff,

>> and the cable company's "reach into your system and FIX things"

>> umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff out. Cleaned up what was necessary

>> to clean up (machine will be replaced, soon.) Further scans need to

>> be run and a HJT log done right.

>>

>> Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU

>> and got three updates, but then went back and one kept being

>> reoffered. This was the issue:

>> http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

>>

>> More to come if I remember more...

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>> Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through

>>> this. Someone

>>> sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able

>>> to run the

>>> repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup

>>> items with help

>>> from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

>>> IE6sp1 zip from an

>>> e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

>>> advice on just about

>>> every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24

>>> hours just going

>>> through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think

>>> what did it is I

>>> removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that

>>> was the name. and I

>>> only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

>>> protection or e-mail.

>>> Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

>>> I ran scandisk.

>>> I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my

>>> computer any

>>> referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had

>>> are gone. A few

>>> little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get

>>> an error message

>>> that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from

>>> now on and send

>>> messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

>>> thank you all.

>

May 27, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Only thing I can glean from that is that I see why the switch listed in that

exchange I linked to didn't work: It's /n:v, not /nv.

I dunno, I'm tired of it. There have been too many different versions of

IE/OE installed on the machine, starting with AOHell ten years ago and

ending with whatever her cable ISP installed. In any case, my test machine

is a mess from playing with that Auto-Patcher, and yet it would seem that

Windows Updates is not offering the some updates that it should be. 837009

is the latest one for OE, and even during all the testing I did when putting

together the Updates packages, I never saw any of these later versions, even

though they're supposed to be offered by WU.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:uQnf5zCwIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> 837009 is listed on this system. The only 82**** in Add/Remove I presently

> have is 823559. Its not shown in IE or iuhist either. Would this be

> related

> to the SecCD usage perhaps?

>

> I agree, if that was, in fact, the supposed update/supercede, then that is

> what should be offered. There were installation issues associated with it,

> so MAYBE Microsoft determined it would just delete/not offer it or SecCD

> somehow over-rides installation. It did, however, appear in the old

> installations [not SecCD updated] documented in 2006.

>

> Affected Software:

> . Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6a

> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a

> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server Edition Service Pack 6

> . Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service

> Pack

> 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4

> . Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1

> . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Service Pack 1

> . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Version 2003

> . Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003

> . Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition

> . Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition (SE), and

> Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me) - Review the FAQ section of this

> bulletin for details about these operating systems.

>

> INFORMATION/DATA saved for 823353 shows [02/07 and 02/16 of 2006]:

>

>> Answering to PA Bear, now with 887797 and 897715 missing, 823353 is the

> only

>> reported update by Windows update...

>>

>> msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll are now 6.00.2800.1478 while wab32.dll is

>> 6.00.2800.1106.

>

> Well, msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll have the version numbers of the files

> contained in KB887797 *not* KB823353 while the wab32.dll is the version

> coming with plain SP1 (no KB823353 nor KB887797 installed). You have

> a "wonderful" mix of versions there on your machine right now :-/

>

> So I stress you to install KB823353 with the /n:v parameter once

> again (IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v). Please try this one in

> normal mode, *not* safe mode. Afterwards please compare the versions

> of the following files with the ones on your machine - yes, *all*

> of them! In the brackets you can find the version and date of the

> files wich are contained in KB823353:

>

> directdb.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)

> inetcomm.dll (6.0.2800.1441 - 07.06.2004)

> inetres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

> msident.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

> msimn.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

> msoe.dll (6.0.2800.1437 - 26.05.2004)

> msoeacct.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

> msoeres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

> msoert2.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)

> oeimport.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

> oemig50.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

> oemiglib.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

> wab32.dll (6.0.2800.1450 - 24.06.2004)

> wab.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

> wabfind.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

> wabimp.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

> wabmig.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)

>

> Could you please afterwards open Internet Explorer, have look in

> "? -> Info" and please post *all* what's listet there behind and

> under the "Update Version" section? Yes *all* these "Q......"'s.

>

> AND:

>

> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 1:39 pm

> From: "PA Bear"

>

> Thanks, Freudi.

>

> Dimitri, here's another description of how to do what Freudi's asked you

> to

> try:

>

> <paste>

> Close OE. Clear History, delete Cookies and delete Temporary Internet

> Files

> via IE: Tools > Options > General, then...

>

> 1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service

> Pack 1 (KB823353; all OSS) from the following link, saving it to your

> Desktop:

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=AD6A96BC-DAF0-4EAB-89B8-BD702B3E3E5D&displaylang=en

>

> (or http://snipurl.com/8x9i)

>

> [ Optional: 2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode. (During the reboot,

> keep

> pressing the F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears > Choose Safe

> Mode > Enter.) ]

>

> 3. Rename the downloaded file to KB823353.EXE and copy it to C:\ (the root

> directory of drive C; assumes drive C is the boot drive)

>

> 4. Start > Run > (type in) C:\KB823353.EXE /N:V (Note the space) > press

> ENTER

>

> 5. Close the command window.

>

> 6. Reboot [into Windows] and then check in at Windows Update to see

> KB823353

> is still offered.

> </paste>

>

> Don't install any other OE updates, just answer #6 above and either state

> the current versions of MSOE.DLL and INETCOMM.DLL or post your reply using

> OE instead of the web interface.

> ~PA Bear

>

> Ottmar Freudenberger wrote:

> <snip>

>> Okay, so you've skipped the steps I've mentioned after having KB823353

>> installed? ;-)

>>

>> Uninstall them (KB887797 and KB897715) once again please.

>>

>> After you've unistalled them, try to install KB823353 with the parameter

>> "/n:v".

>> Assuming you've saved the "IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe" file in

>> "C:\Downloads", you would have to enter the following in "Run" in the

>> Start menu:

>>

>> C:\Downloads\IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v

>>

>> Note, there's a blank after the EXE and no blank in the parameter.

>> Let me know, if the installation of KB823353 has been successful this

>> time

> <snip>

>

> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 6:19 pm

> From: "PA Bear"

>

> ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet Explorer due to

> defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security update 896688

> (MS05-052): http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889

>

> A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may not load as expected

> in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes introduced in

> cumulative security update 896688 (MS05-052):

> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909738

>

> => The fix detailed in 909889 involving the Registry and OLE32.DLL is

> available at

>

> - http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip or

>

> - http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip (a small VB app that

> checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if any of them are

> incorrect).

> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

>

>> Ralf wrote:

>> > I'd like to let the group know that the odd behavior issue which has

> been

>> > reported from various sources after installing the December Microsoft

>> > Updates has been solved. I've posted the details on my blog at

>> > http://www.rottmann.net .

>> >

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%2361bRhCwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried it. What I don't get

> is

> | where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it offered by Windows

> Updates.

> | Thing is, KB823353 = MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13. The notes in

> | MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.

> |

> | IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer KB823353 to my system.

> I'd

> | be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove Programs, do you have

> either

> | of these Updates listed (or both)?

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything else [file checks,

> | > anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see if anything

> is

> | > messed up.

> | > Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and iuhist.xml if you used

> | > windowsupdate during the process.

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353. But I'm not

> | > clear

> | > | that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so I'm not

> sure.

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > |

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are there still

> | > issues

> | > | > with it? Just curious..

> | > | >

> | > | > --

> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > --

> | > | > _________

> | > | >

> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from,

> and

> | > what

> | > | > | disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief

> was

> | > that

> | > | > the

> | > | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to get

> rid

> | > of

> | > | > the

> | > | > | firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps,

> reinstall

> | > IE,

> | > | > etc.

> | > | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router, and

> it

> | > seems

> | > | > to

> | > | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web

> Shield

> | > out

> | > | > fixed

> | > | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response, though

> it

> | > | > doesn't

> | > | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when

> Avast!

> | > was

> | > | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is

> the

> | > | > original

> | > | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this

> cable

> | > | > company,

> | > | > | all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable

> | > company's

> | > | > | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard to

> sort

> | > | > stuff

> | > | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will be

> | > | > replaced,

> | > | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went

> to

> WU

> | > and

> | > | > got

> | > | > | three updates, but then went back and one kept being reoffered.

> This

> | > was

> | > | > the

> | > | > | issue:

> | > | > |

> | >

> http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

> | > | > |

> | > | > | More to come if I remember more...

> | > | > |

> | > | > | --

> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > |

> | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me

> | > through

> | > | > this.

> | > | > | > Someone

> | > | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and

> was

> | > able

> | > | > to

> | > | > | > run the

> | > | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my

> | > startup

> | > | > | > items with help

> | > | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I

> download

> | > | > IE6sp1

> | > | > | > zip from an

> | > | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow

> your

> | > | > advice

> | > | > on

> | > | > | > just about

> | > | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent

> about

> 24

> | > | > hours

> | > | > | > just going

> | > | > | > through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I

> | > think

> | > | > what

> | > | > | > did it is I

> | > | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think

> that

> | > was

> | > | > the

> | > | > | > name. and I

> | > | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

> | > | > protection

> | > | > | > or e-mail.

> | > | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

> | > | > | > I ran scandisk.

> | > | > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I

> start

> | > my

> | > | > | > computer any

> | > | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never

> had

> | > are

> | > | > | > gone. A few

> | > | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail,

> I

> | > get

> | > an

> | > | > | > error message

> | > | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox

> from

> | > now

> | > | > on

> | > | > | > and send

> | > | > | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

> | > | > | > thank you all.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > |

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> |

>

May 27, 2008