IE Running well so far

"Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

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> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>

>> The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

>

> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the [msXML4*.*] files

> haven't been (security-)updated since originally installed.

> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many files

> created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date. Unfortunately the

> result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column but many times, sometimes

> even if the application responsible for installing the files under

> investigation have been uninstalled, there are other tell-tale files left

> behind that can shed light on it.

>

> --

> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your tongue

> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't know that about Yahoo! Mail.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Hi all,

> You can also use that method in the yahoo web mail.

> Angel

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> : If you follow proper security habits, including setting email apps to

> only

> : read messages in Plain Text, you never have to worry about any viruses

> : getting in. Doesn't matter what client you use. If you get a POS HTML

> email

> : that can't be read in PT, and you trust the source, then you can change

> to

> : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)

> :

> : --

> : Gary S. Terhune

> : MS-MVP Shell/User

> : http://www.grystmill.com

> :

> : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message

> : news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...

> : > I should have mentioned that Outlook Express is very poor software

> : > that will allow viruses to infect your computer. I wont even allow

> : > that POS on my computer. I deleted the entire directory many years

> : > ago. I'd highly recommend finding another email software as well as

> : > another usenet software. (some do both, such as the newer versions of

> : > Agent).

> :

>

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Which was why I emailed it to her, and then it turned out she only had a few

MB of free space left on the disk. Less than a hundred MB *before* she

received the IE files.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6&DisplayLang=en

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Well, that's the stub installer, don't know whether it would still work or

> not with 98.

> But without browser access as was the case, that was as distant as the

> moon.

>

> Thanks for re-posting the link though.

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

> news:OvJxQRFwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | I figured she could get it from here (not sure of that, however):

> |

> |

> | MEB wrote:

> | > Unless some thing has changed, IE5.1 is the minimum to access and use

> | > windowsupdate.

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | >

> | > "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

> | > news:%23QYEEpCwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | >> I was a little too daunted by CdLSRN's long threads to finish reading

> | >> through them, I'm glad she is up and running again.

> | >> Anyway, a question. Last night I was installing Office97 in a laptop

> | >> and I noticed a folder on the CD, "VALUPACK". In VALUPACK there is a

> | >> folder IEXPLORE, and in the folder is the file IE4SETUP.EXE.

> | >>

> | >> A lot of 98 users may still have this disk that came with their

> | >> $2200.00 PII desktops (and why not, it's a great program, and the

> | >> security updates can still be downloaded from Microsoft and burned

> | >> to CD). So the obvious question regarding Ginny's situation is, if

> | >> she had the Office97 disk could she have uninstalled IE6, installed

> | >> IE4, navigated to Microsoft.com and got IE6 going again from there?

> | >>

> | >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> | >>> The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

> | >>> what disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief

> | >>> was that the machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were

> | >>> able to get rid of the firewall and a couple of other things, update

> | >>> some apps, reinstall IE, etc. There is another firewall in the mix,

> | >>> on the Belkin router, and it seems to be blocking Avast!, too. So we

> | >>> discovered that leaving Web Shield out fixed the problem with

> | >>> Avast!, just before their tech response, though it doesn't explain

> | >>> how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was

> | >>> completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

> | >>>

> | >>> I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the

> | >>> original install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then

> | >>> this cable company, all with their installations of branded stuff,

> | >>> and the cable company's "reach into your system and FIX things"

> | >>> umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff out. Cleaned up what was

> | >>> necessary to clean up (machine will be replaced, soon.) Further

> | >>> scans need to

> | >>> be run and a HJT log done right.

> | >>>

> | >>> Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU

> | >>> and got three updates, but then went back and one kept being

> | >>> reoffered. This was the issue:

> | >>>

> http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

> | >>>

> | >>> More to come if I remember more...

> | >>>

> | >>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | >>> news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | >>>> Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me

> | >>>> through this. Someone

> | >>>> sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was

> | >>>> able to run the

> | >>>> repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my

> | >>>> startup items with help

> | >>>> from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

> | >>>> IE6sp1 zip from an

> | >>>> e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

> | >>>> advice on just about

> | >>>> every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24

> | >>>> hours just going

> | >>>> through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I

> | >>>> think what did it is I

> | >>>> removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that

> | >>>> was the name. and I

> | >>>> only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

> | >>>> protection or e-mail.

> | >>>> Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

> | >>>> I ran scandisk.

> | >>>> I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start

> | >>>> my computer any

> | >>>> referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had

> | >>>> are gone. A few

> | >>>> little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get

> | >>>> an error message

> | >>>> that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from

> | >>>> now on and send

> | >>>> messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

> | >>>> thank you all.

> |

>

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

In add/remove programs I have OEQ823353 only not KB.

and no 837009.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353. But I'm not clear

> that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so I'm not sure.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are there still issues

> > with it? Just curious..

> >

> > --

> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > --

> > _________

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and what

> > | disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief was that

> > the

> > | machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to get rid of

> > the

> > | firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps, reinstall IE,

> > etc.

> > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router, and it seems

> > to

> > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web Shield out

> > fixed

> > | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response, though it

> > doesn't

> > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was

> > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

> > |

> > | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the

> > original

> > | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this cable

> > company,

> > | all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable company's

> > | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard to sort

> > stuff

> > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will be

> > replaced,

> > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.

> > |

> > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU and

> > got

> > | three updates, but then went back and one kept being reoffered. This was

> > the

> > | issue:

> > | http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

> > |

> > | More to come if I remember more...

> > |

> > | --

> > | Gary S. Terhune

> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> > | http://www.grystmill.com

> > |

> > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through

> > this.

> > | > Someone

> > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able

> > to

> > | > run the

> > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup

> > | > items with help

> > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

> > IE6sp1

> > | > zip from an

> > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

> > advice

> > on

> > | > just about

> > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24

> > hours

> > | > just going

> > | > through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think

> > what

> > | > did it is I

> > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that was

> > the

> > | > name. and I

> > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

> > protection

> > | > or e-mail.

> > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

> > | > I ran scandisk.

> > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my

> > | > computer any

> > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had are

> > | > gone. A few

> > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get an

> > | > error message

> > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from now

> > on

> > | > and send

> > | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

> > | > thank you all.

> > | >

> > |

> >

>

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

I have Office2000 Small Business. Ginny

"Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

news:%23QYEEpCwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> I was a little too daunted by CdLSRN's long threads to finish reading

> through them, I'm glad she is up and running again.

> Anyway, a question. Last night I was installing Office97 in a laptop and I

> noticed a folder on the CD, "VALUPACK". In VALUPACK there is a folder

> IEXPLORE, and in the folder is the file IE4SETUP.EXE.

>

> A lot of 98 users may still have this disk that came with their $2200.00 PII

> desktops (and why not, it's a great program, and the security updates can

> still be downloaded from Microsoft and burned to CD). So the obvious

> question regarding Ginny's situation is, if she had the Office97 disk could

> she have uninstalled IE6, installed IE4, navigated to Microsoft.com and got

> IE6 going again from there?

>

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

> > what disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief

> > was that the machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were

> > able to get rid of the firewall and a couple of other things, update

> > some apps, reinstall IE, etc. There is another firewall in the mix,

> > on the Belkin router, and it seems to be blocking Avast!, too. So we

> > discovered that leaving Web Shield out fixed the problem with Avast!,

> > just before their tech response, though it doesn't explain how the

> > no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was completely

> > uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

> >

> > I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the

> > original install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then

> > this cable company, all with their installations of branded stuff,

> > and the cable company's "reach into your system and FIX things"

> > umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff out. Cleaned up what was necessary

> > to clean up (machine will be replaced, soon.) Further scans need to

> > be run and a HJT log done right.

> >

> > Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU

> > and got three updates, but then went back and one kept being

> > reoffered. This was the issue:

> > http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

> >

> > More to come if I remember more...

> >

> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through

> >> this. Someone

> >> sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able

> >> to run the

> >> repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup

> >> items with help

> >> from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

> >> IE6sp1 zip from an

> >> e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

> >> advice on just about

> >> every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24

> >> hours just going

> >> through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think

> >> what did it is I

> >> removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that

> >> was the name. and I

> >> only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

> >> protection or e-mail.

> >> Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

> >> I ran scandisk.

> >> I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my

> >> computer any

> >> referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had

> >> are gone. A few

> >> little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get

> >> an error message

> >> that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from

> >> now on and send

> >> messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

> >> thank you all.

>

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on February 4,2002. I

bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop. Ginny

"Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>

> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

>

> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

> originally installed.

> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

> on it.

>

> --

> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

> tongue

> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Wish I could remember what that "Q" stands for (Query?)... Used to be Q*****

was the naming format for any patch, and it is still used. KB = Knowledge

Base and the KB article that explained a Q patch came with the same

following digits Then there's the Technet Security Bulletins named MS04-018,

for instance. These various naming conventions are all used in various

places to name the patch, and you never know how it's going to appear in any

particular place.

As noted, we replaced KB837009 with KB823353, which is why KB837009 still

doesn't appear in Add/Remove Programs. In essence, it was Removed. If you'd

looked in between the Updates, you'd have seen 837009 listed, but the

installation of 823353 removed it..

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483cd93c$0$11636$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> In add/remove programs I have OEQ823353 only not KB.

> and no 837009.

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353. But I'm not

>> clear

>> that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so I'm not sure.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are there still

>> > issues

>> > with it? Just curious..

>> >

>> > --

>> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> > --

>> > _________

>> >

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

>> > what

>> > | disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief was

>> > that

>> > the

>> > | machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to get rid

>> > of

>> > the

>> > | firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps, reinstall

>> > IE,

>> > etc.

>> > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router, and it

>> > seems

>> > to

>> > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web Shield out

>> > fixed

>> > | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response, though it

>> > doesn't

>> > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast!

>> > was

>> > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

>> > |

>> > | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the

>> > original

>> > | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this cable

>> > company,

>> > | all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable

>> > company's

>> > | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard to sort

>> > stuff

>> > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will be

>> > replaced,

>> > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.

>> > |

>> > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU

>> > and

>> > got

>> > | three updates, but then went back and one kept being reoffered. This

>> > was

>> > the

>> > | issue:

>> > |

>> > |

>> > | More to come if I remember more...

>> > |

>> > | --

>> > | Gary S. Terhune

>> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > | http://www.grystmill.com

>> > |

>> > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me

>> > through

>> > this.

>> > | > Someone

>> > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was

>> > able

>> > to

>> > | > run the

>> > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my

>> > startup

>> > | > items with help

>> > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

>> > IE6sp1

>> > | > zip from an

>> > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

>> > advice

>> > on

>> > | > just about

>> > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24

>> > hours

>> > | > just going

>> > | > through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I

>> > think

>> > what

>> > | > did it is I

>> > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that

>> > was

>> > the

>> > | > name. and I

>> > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

>> > protection

>> > | > or e-mail.

>> > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

>> > | > I ran scandisk.

>> > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start

>> > my

>> > | > computer any

>> > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had

>> > are

>> > | > gone. A few

>> > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get

>> > an

>> > | > error message

>> > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from

>> > now

>> > on

>> > | > and send

>> > | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

>> > | > thank you all.

>> > | >

>> > |

>> >

>>

>

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on February

> 4,2002. I

> bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop. Ginny

>

> "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

> news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>

>> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

>>

>> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

>> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

>> originally installed.

>> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

>> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

>> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

>> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

>> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

>> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

>> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

>> on it.

>>

>> --

>> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

>> tongue

>> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

>

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.

msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5 KB.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on February

> > 4,2002. I

> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop. Ginny

> >

> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >>

> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

> >>

> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

> >> originally installed.

> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

> >> on it.

> >>

> >> --

> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

> >> tongue

> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

> >

>

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Sounds like the plan...

I'll have to check to see if that was one of those extra needed files that

I had listed on the web page..if not, it will be

--

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:erGCAzGwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| After reading the KB more closely, what KB823353 really says is that it

does

| is get rid of one of minor nuisance introduced by KB837009 -- like that

| famous wandering "~" file, but also another vulnerability in IE5.5SP1.

Other

| than that, it apparently includes everything in KB837009. IOW, it does

| replace the "previous" patch entirely. (I looked inside, they look nearly

| identical.) So what happened, probably, is that reinstalling standard

IE6SP1

| over whatever she already had installed (including KB823353) caused a

mix-up

| that had WU seeing KB837009 as required, not noting that KB823353 was

| already present. Reinstalling KB837009 was only necessary in order to stop

| WU from wanting to install it (and it fails silently).

|

| I'm thinking that while it wasn't necessary to reinstall KB837009, except

to

| stop any nagging by WU, it was a good idea to reinstall KB823353. As for

PA

| Bear's encounter, it sound's like that was an XP machine or it had an

| unofficial patch installed, then reinstalled IE or something similar and

ran

| into the same issue, just with later versions.

|

| Anyway, I'm adding KB823353 to my Updates CDs just as soon as another CD

| burning session is called for, which will be pretty soon.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=AD6A96BC-DAF0-4EAB-89B8-BD702B3E3E5D&displaylang=en

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:%23WJibtEwIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > Agreed, makes no sense except for the issues involved with its

| > installation.

| >

| > Issues related to its installation > end of support > remove it from WU.

| >

| > This isn't the only file/update previously offered via WU, now "missing

in

| > action".

| >

| > --

| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:%23Jb$dmDwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | Makes no sense, part deux...

| > |

| > | Result is that KB823353 is not considered a Critical Update and thus

| > | shouldn't appear at WU. Yet it is listed as a replacement for KB837009

| > which

| > | IS a Critical Update (and apparently for good reason.)

| > |

| > | The SecUp CD precedes these Updates by a good two years. Shouldn't be

| > any

| > | part of the problem.

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > |

| > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | news:%23OnszBDwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > | > Only thing I can glean from that is that I see why the switch listed

| > in

| > | > that exchange I linked to didn't work: It's /n:v, not /nv.

| > | >

| > | > I dunno, I'm tired of it. There have been too many different

versions

| > of

| > | > IE/OE installed on the machine, starting with AOHell ten years ago

and

| > | > ending with whatever her cable ISP installed. In any case, my test

| > machine

| > | > is a mess from playing with that Auto-Patcher, and yet it would seem

| > that

| > | > Windows Updates is not offering the some updates that it should be.

| > 837009

| > | > is the latest one for OE, and even during all the testing I did when

| > | > putting together the Updates packages, I never saw any of these

later

| > | > versions, even though they're supposed to be offered by WU.

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > Gary S. Terhune

| > | > MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > http://www.grystmill.com

| > | >

| > | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > news:uQnf5zCwIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | >> 837009 is listed on this system. The only 82**** in Add/Remove I

| > | >> presently

| > | >> have is 823559. Its not shown in IE or iuhist either. Would this be

| > | >> related

| > | >> to the SecCD usage perhaps?

| > | >>

| > | >> I agree, if that was, in fact, the supposed update/supercede, then

| > that

| > | >> is

| > | >> what should be offered. There were installation issues associated

| > with

| > | >> it,

| > | >> so MAYBE Microsoft determined it would just delete/not offer it or

| > SecCD

| > | >> somehow over-rides installation. It did, however, appear in the old

| > | >> installations [not SecCD updated] documented in 2006.

| > | >>

| > | >> Affected Software:

| > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6a

| > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a

| > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server Edition Service

| > Pack

| > 6

| > | >> . Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft Windows 2000

| > Service

| > | >> Pack

| > | >> 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4

| > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1

| > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Service Pack 1

| > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Version 2003

| > | >> . Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003

| > | >> . Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition

| > | >> . Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition (SE),

and

| > | >> Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me) - Review the FAQ section

of

| > | >> this

| > | >> bulletin for details about these operating systems.

| > | >>

| > | >> INFORMATION/DATA saved for 823353 shows [02/07 and 02/16 of 2006]:

| > | >>

| > | >>> Answering to PA Bear, now with 887797 and 897715 missing, 823353

is

| > the

| > | >> only

| > | >>> reported update by Windows update...

| > | >>>

| > | >>> msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll are now 6.00.2800.1478 while wab32.dll

is

| > | >>> 6.00.2800.1106.

| > | >>

| > | >> Well, msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll have the version numbers of the

files

| > | >> contained in KB887797 *not* KB823353 while the wab32.dll is the

| > version

| > | >> coming with plain SP1 (no KB823353 nor KB887797 installed). You

have

| > | >> a "wonderful" mix of versions there on your machine right now :-/

| > | >>

| > | >> So I stress you to install KB823353 with the /n:v parameter once

| > | >> again (IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v). Please try this one in

| > | >> normal mode, *not* safe mode. Afterwards please compare the

versions

| > | >> of the following files with the ones on your machine - yes, *all*

| > | >> of them! In the brackets you can find the version and date of the

| > | >> files wich are contained in KB823353:

| > | >>

| > | >> directdb.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)

| > | >> inetcomm.dll (6.0.2800.1441 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> inetres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> msident.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> msimn.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> msoe.dll (6.0.2800.1437 - 26.05.2004)

| > | >> msoeacct.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> msoeres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> msoert2.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)

| > | >> oeimport.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> oemig50.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> oemiglib.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> wab32.dll (6.0.2800.1450 - 24.06.2004)

| > | >> wab.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> wabfind.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> wabimp.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)

| > | >> wabmig.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)

| > | >>

| > | >> Could you please afterwards open Internet Explorer, have look in

| > | >> "? -> Info" and please post *all* what's listet there behind and

| > | >> under the "Update Version" section? Yes *all* these "Q......"'s.

| > | >>

| > | >> AND:

| > | >>

| > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 1:39 pm

| > | >> From: "PA Bear"

| > | >>

| > | >> Thanks, Freudi.

| > | >>

| > | >> Dimitri, here's another description of how to do what Freudi's

asked

| > you

| > | >> to

| > | >> try:

| > | >>

| > | >> <paste>

| > | >> Close OE. Clear History, delete Cookies and delete Temporary

| > Internet

| > | >> Files

| > | >> via IE: Tools > Options > General, then...

| > | >>

| > | >> 1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6

| > Service

| > | >> Pack 1 (KB823353; all OSS) from the following link, saving it to

your

| > | >> Desktop:

| > | >>

| >

| > | >>

| > | >> (or http://snipurl.com/8x9i)

| > | >>

| > | >> [ Optional: 2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode. (During the

| > reboot,

| > | >> keep

| > | >> pressing the F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears > Choose

| > Safe

| > | >> Mode > Enter.) ]

| > | >>

| > | >> 3. Rename the downloaded file to KB823353.EXE and copy it to C:\

(the

| > | >> root

| > | >> directory of drive C; assumes drive C is the boot drive)

| > | >>

| > | >> 4. Start > Run > (type in) C:\KB823353.EXE /N:V (Note the space) >

| > press

| > | >> ENTER

| > | >>

| > | >> 5. Close the command window.

| > | >>

| > | >> 6. Reboot [into Windows] and then check in at Windows Update to see

| > | >> KB823353

| > | >> is still offered.

| > | >> </paste>

| > | >>

| > | >> Don't install any other OE updates, just answer #6 above and either

| > state

| > | >> the current versions of MSOE.DLL and INETCOMM.DLL or post your

reply

| > | >> using

| > | >> OE instead of the web interface.

| > | >> ~PA Bear

| > | >>

| > | >> Ottmar Freudenberger wrote:

| > | >> <snip>

| > | >>> Okay, so you've skipped the steps I've mentioned after having

| > KB823353

| > | >>> installed? ;-)

| > | >>>

| > | >>> Uninstall them (KB887797 and KB897715) once again please.

| > | >>>

| > | >>> After you've unistalled them, try to install KB823353 with the

| > parameter

| > | >>> "/n:v".

| > | >>> Assuming you've saved the "IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe" file in

| > | >>> "C:\Downloads", you would have to enter the following in "Run" in

| > the

| > | >>> Start menu:

| > | >>>

| > | >>> C:\Downloads\IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v

| > | >>>

| > | >>> Note, there's a blank after the EXE and no blank in the parameter.

| > | >>> Let me know, if the installation of KB823353 has been successful

| > this

| > | >>> time

| > | >> <snip>

| > | >>

| > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 6:19 pm

| > | >> From: "PA Bear"

| > | >>

| > | >> ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet Explorer due

to

| > | >> defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security update

| > 896688

| > | >> (MS05-052): http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889

| > | >>

| > | >> A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may not load as

| > | >> expected

| > | >> in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes introduced in

| > | >> cumulative security update 896688 (MS05-052):

| > | >> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909738

| > | >>

| > | >> => The fix detailed in 909889 involving the Registry and OLE32.DLL

is

| > | >> available at

| > | >>

| > | >> - http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip or

| > | >>

| > | >> - http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip (a small VB app

| > that

| > | >> checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if any of them are

| > | >> incorrect).

| > | >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

| > | >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP,

| > DTS-L.org

| > | >>

| > | >>> Ralf wrote:

| > | >>> > I'd like to let the group know that the odd behavior issue which

| > has

| > | >> been

| > | >>> > reported from various sources after installing the December

| > Microsoft

| > | >>> > Updates has been solved. I've posted the details on my blog at

| > | >>> > http://www.rottmann.net .

| > | >>> >

| > | >>

| > | >> --

| > | >> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | >> --

| > | >> _________

| > | >>

| > | >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | >> news:%2361bRhCwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | >> | Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried it. What I

| > don't

| > | >> get

| > | >> is

| > | >> | where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it offered by Windows

| > | >> Updates.

| > | >> | Thing is, KB823353 = MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13. The

notes

| > in

| > | >> | MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.

| > | >> |

| > | >> | IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer KB823353 to my

| > system.

| > | >> I'd

| > | >> | be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove Programs, do you

| > have

| > | >> either

| > | >> | of these Updates listed (or both)?

| > | >> |

| > | >> | --

| > | >> | Gary S. Terhune

| > | >> | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | >> | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | >> |

| > | >> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | >> | news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | >> | > Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything else [file

| > checks,

| > | >> | > anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see if

| > anything

| > | >> is

| > | >> | > messed up.

| > | >> | > Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and iuhist.xml if you

| > used

| > | >> | > windowsupdate during the process.

| > | >> | >

| > | >> | > --

| > | >> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | >> | > --

| > | >> | > _________

| > | >> | >

| > | >> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | >> | > news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | >> | > | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353. But

| > I'm

| > | >> not

| > | >> | > clear

| > | >> | > | that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so I'm

| > not

| > | >> sure.

| > | >> | > |

| > | >> | > | --

| > | >> | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | >> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | >> | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | >> | > |

| > | >> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | >> | > | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | >> | > | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are

there

| > | >> still

| > | >> | > issues

| > | >> | > | > with it? Just curious..

| > | >> | > | >

| > | >> | > | > --

| > | >> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | >> | > | > --

| > | >> | > | > _________

| > | >> | > | >

| > | >> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | >> | > | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | >> | > | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came

| > from,

| > | >> and

| > | >> | > what

| > | >> | > | > | disappeared those three other files, but what caused some

| > grief

| > | >> was

| > | >> | > that

| > | >> | > | > the

| > | >> | > | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able

| > to

| > | >> get

| > | >> rid

| > | >> | > of

| > | >> | > | > the

| > | >> | > | > | firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps,

| > | >> reinstall

| > | >> | > IE,

| > | >> | > | > etc.

| > | >> | > | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin

router,

| > and

| > | >> it

| > | >> | > seems

| > | >> | > | > to

| > | >> | > | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving

Web

| > | >> Shield

| > | >> | > out

| > | >> | > | > fixed

| > | >> | > | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response,

| > | >> though

| > | >> it

| > | >> | > | > doesn't

| > | >> | > | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring

| > when

| > | >> Avast!

| > | >> | > was

| > | >> | > | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day,

| > today.

| > | >> | > | > |

| > | >> | > | > | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original

| > and

| > is

| > | >> the

| > | >> | > | > original

| > | >> | > | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then

| > this

| > | >> cable

| > | >> | > | > company,

| > | >> | > | > | all with their installations of branded stuff, and the

| > cable

| > | >> | > company's

| > | >> | > | > | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's

| > hard

| > to

| > | >> sort

| > | >> | > | > stuff

| > | >> | > | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine

| > will

| > be

| > | >> | > | > replaced,

| > | >> | > | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done

| > right.

| > | >> | > | > |

| > | >> | > | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE.

| > Went

| > | >> to

| > | >> WU

| > | >> | > and

| > | >> | > | > got

| > | >> | > | > | three updates, but then went back and one kept being

| > reoffered.

| > | >> This

| > | >> | > was

| > | >> | > | > the

| > | >> | > | > | issue:

| > | >> | > | > |

| > | >> | >

| > | >>

| > http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

| > | >> | > | > |

| > | >> | > | > | More to come if I remember more...

| > | >> | > | > |

| > | >> | > | > | --

| > | >> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | >> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | >> | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | >> | > | > |

| > | >> | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > | >> | > | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > | >> | > | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking

with

| > me

| > | >> | > through

| > | >> | > | > this.

| > | >> | > | > | > Someone

| > | >> | > | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them

| > and

| > | >> was

| > | >> | > able

| > | >> | > | > to

| > | >> | > | > | > run the

| > | >> | > | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned

| > up

| > my

| > | >> | > startup

| > | >> | > | > | > items with help

| > | >> | > | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I

| > | >> download

| > | >> | > | > IE6sp1

| > | >> | > | > | > zip from an

| > | >> | > | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I

| > follow

| > | >> your

| > | >> | > | > advice

| > | >> | > | > on

| > | >> | > | > | > just about

| > | >> | > | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we

spent

| > | >> about

| > | >> 24

| > | >> | > | > hours

| > | >> | > | > | > just going

| > | >> | > | > | > through this. This is my third day and we are finally

| > fixed.

| > | >> I

| > | >> | > think

| > | >> | > | > what

| > | >> | > | > | > did it is I

| > | >> | > | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I

| > think

| > | >> that

| > | >> | > was

| > | >> | > | > the

| > | >> | > | > | > name. and I

| > | >> | > | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus

| > scanner).....not

| > | >> web

| > | >> | > | > protection

| > | >> | > | > | > or e-mail.

| > | >> | > | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

| > | >> | > | > | > I ran scandisk.

| > | >> | > | > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them all.

When

| > I

| > | >> start

| > | >> | > my

| > | >> | > | > | > computer any

| > | >> | > | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that

I

| > | >> never

| > | >> had

| > | >> | > are

| > | >> | > | > | > gone. A few

| > | >> | > | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send this

| > e-mail,

| > | >> I

| > | >> | > get

| > | >> | > an

| > | >> | > | > | > error message

| > | >> | > | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the

| > outbox

| > | >> from

| > | >> | > now

| > | >> | > | > on

| > | >> | > | > | > and send

| > | >> | > | > | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

| > | >> | > | > | > thank you all.

| > | >> | > | > | >

| > | >> | > | > |

| > | >> | > | >

| > | >> | > |

| > | >> | >

| > | >> |

| > | >>

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing it. I downloaded Sygate5.5.2577

as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

After installation it said IE was loading a new dll for Avast, so I said o.k. but I

didn't write it down.

Then it said IE is loading new dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System MFC42LOC.DLL

FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

FILE; I.E.

PROCESS ID FF872F29

(heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

TCP t

(This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this :

A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This is common if you have updated O.E.

lately. (because of firewall)

The new DLLs have been loaded:

C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools, Options menu.

File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

File Description : Outlook Express

File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe

Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077 (Decimal)

Connection origin : local initiated

Protocol : TCP

Local Address : 192.168.2.3

Local Port : 1094

Remote Name : mail.optonline.net

Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

Remote Port : 25 (SMTP - Simple Mail Transfer Protocol)

Ethernet packet details:

Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

Type: IP (0x0800)

Internet Protocol

Version: 4

Header Length: 20 bytes

Flags:

.1.. = Don't fragment: Set

..0. = More fragments: Not set

Fragment offset:0

Time to live: 128

Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

Source: 192.168.2.3

Destination: 167.206.5.250

Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

Source port: 1094

Destination port: 25

Sequence number: 2040560

Acknowledgment number: 0

Header length: 28

Flags:

0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce (CWR): Not set

.0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

.... 0... = Push: Not set

.... .0.. = Reset: Not set

.... ..1. = Syn: Set

.... ...0 = Fin: Not set

Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

Data (0 Bytes)

Binary dump of the packet:

0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0. ....u.bM..E.

0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03 A7 CE | .0r.@....P......

0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00 70 02 | ...F....".....p.

0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 C5 CE | ..E............

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----

Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

The new DLLs have been loaded:

C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools, Options menu.

File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

File Description : Outlook Express

File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe

Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077 (Decimal)

Connection origin : local initiated

Protocol : TCP

Local Address : 192.168.2.3

Local Port : 1101

Remote Name : news.optonline.net

Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

Remote Port : 119 (NNTP - Network News Transfer Protocol)

Ethernet packet details:

Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

Type: IP (0x0800)

Internet Protocol

Version: 4

Header Length: 20 bytes

Flags:

.1.. = Don't fragment: Set

..0. = More fragments: Not set

Fragment offset:0

Time to live: 128

Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

Source: 192.168.2.3

Destination: 209.197.15.254

Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

Source port: 1101

Destination port: 119

Sequence number: 2582083

Acknowledgment number: 0

Header length: 28

Flags:

0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce (CWR): Not set

.0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

.... 0... = Push: Not set

.... .0.. = Reset: Not set

.... ..1. = Syn: Set

.... ...0 = Fin: Not set

Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

Data (0 Bytes)

Binary dump of the packet:

0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0. ....u.bM..E.

0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03 D1 C5 | .0..@....T......

0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00 70 02 | ...M.w.'fC....p.

0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 6F 2F | .S...........

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

EEEK,, that put a crimp in everything..

--

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uEGnLLHwIHA.576@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| Which was why I emailed it to her, and then it turned out she only had a

few

| MB of free space left on the disk. Less than a hundred MB *before* she

| received the IE files.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6&DisplayLang=en

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:ecgyjiGwIHA.5448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > Well, that's the stub installer, don't know whether it would still work

or

| > not with 98.

| > But without browser access as was the case, that was as distant as the

| > moon.

| >

| > Thanks for re-posting the link though.

| >

| > --

| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

| > news:OvJxQRFwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > | I figured she could get it from here (not sure of that, however):

| > |

| >

| > |

| > | MEB wrote:

| > | > Unless some thing has changed, IE5.1 is the minimum to access and

use

| > | > windowsupdate.

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | >

| > | > "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

| > | > news:%23QYEEpCwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | >> I was a little too daunted by CdLSRN's long threads to finish

reading

| > | >> through them, I'm glad she is up and running again.

| > | >> Anyway, a question. Last night I was installing Office97 in a

laptop

| > | >> and I noticed a folder on the CD, "VALUPACK". In VALUPACK there is

a

| > | >> folder IEXPLORE, and in the folder is the file IE4SETUP.EXE.

| > | >>

| > | >> A lot of 98 users may still have this disk that came with their

| > | >> $2200.00 PII desktops (and why not, it's a great program, and the

| > | >> security updates can still be downloaded from Microsoft and burned

| > | >> to CD). So the obvious question regarding Ginny's situation is, if

| > | >> she had the Office97 disk could she have uninstalled IE6, installed

| > | >> IE4, navigated to Microsoft.com and got IE6 going again from there?

| > | >>

| > | >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| > | >>> The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

| > | >>> what disappeared those three other files, but what caused some

grief

| > | >>> was that the machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were

| > | >>> able to get rid of the firewall and a couple of other things,

update

| > | >>> some apps, reinstall IE, etc. There is another firewall in the

mix,

| > | >>> on the Belkin router, and it seems to be blocking Avast!, too. So

we

| > | >>> discovered that leaving Web Shield out fixed the problem with

| > | >>> Avast!, just before their tech response, though it doesn't explain

| > | >>> how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was

| > | >>> completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

| > | >>>

| > | >>> I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is

the

| > | >>> original install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then

| > | >>> this cable company, all with their installations of branded stuff,

| > | >>> and the cable company's "reach into your system and FIX things"

| > | >>> umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff out. Cleaned up what was

| > | >>> necessary to clean up (machine will be replaced, soon.) Further

| > | >>> scans need to

| > | >>> be run and a HJT log done right.

| > | >>>

| > | >>> Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to

WU

| > | >>> and got three updates, but then went back and one kept being

| > | >>> reoffered. This was the issue:

| > | >>>

| > http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html

| > | >>>

| > | >>> More to come if I remember more...

| > | >>>

| > | >>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > | >>> news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > | >>>> Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me

| > | >>>> through this. Someone

| > | >>>> sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was

| > | >>>> able to run the

| > | >>>> repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my

| > | >>>> startup items with help

| > | >>>> from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download

| > | >>>> IE6sp1 zip from an

| > | >>>> e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your

| > | >>>> advice on just about

| > | >>>> every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about

24

| > | >>>> hours just going

| > | >>>> through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I

| > | >>>> think what did it is I

| > | >>>> removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that

| > | >>>> was the name. and I

| > | >>>> only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web

| > | >>>> protection or e-mail.

| > | >>>> Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.

| > | >>>> I ran scandisk.

| > | >>>> I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start

| > | >>>> my computer any

| > | >>>> referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never

had

| > | >>>> are gone. A few

| > | >>>> little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I

get

| > | >>>> an error message

| > | >>>> that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from

| > | >>>> now on and send

| > | >>>> messages right away. At least I can get online!!!

| > | >>>> thank you all.

| > |

| >

|

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I go to one of my OE accounts, or

a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't let me go there. I will try to

stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal thing since I used the IE6sp1

installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more than I posted last night.

So in summary, my computer works but only if I let it add a LOT of dlls. Ginny

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>

> I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing it. I downloaded Sygate5.5.2577

> as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

> After installation it said IE was loading a new dll for Avast, so I said o.k. but I

> didn't write it down.

>

> Then it said IE is loading new dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System MFC42LOC.DLL

> FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

> FILE; I.E.

> PROCESS ID FF872F29

> (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

> TCP t

> (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

> Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this :

>

> A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This is common if you have updated

O.E.

> lately. (because of firewall)

>

> The new DLLs have been loaded:

>

> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

>

> To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools, Options

menu.

>

> File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

>

> File Description : Outlook Express

>

> File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe

>

> Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077 (Decimal)

>

> Connection origin : local initiated

>

> Protocol : TCP

>

> Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>

> Local Port : 1094

>

> Remote Name : mail.optonline.net

>

> Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

>

> Remote Port : 25 (SMTP - Simple Mail Transfer Protocol)

>

> Ethernet packet details:

>

> Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>

> Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>

> Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>

> Type: IP (0x0800)

>

> Internet Protocol

>

> Version: 4

>

> Header Length: 20 bytes

>

> Flags:

>

> .1.. = Don't fragment: Set

>

> ..0. = More fragments: Not set

>

> Fragment offset:0

>

> Time to live: 128

>

> Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

>

> Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

>

> Source: 192.168.2.3

>

> Destination: 167.206.5.250

>

> Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>

> Source port: 1094

>

> Destination port: 25

>

> Sequence number: 2040560

>

> Acknowledgment number: 0

>

> Header length: 28

>

> Flags:

>

> 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce (CWR): Not set

>

> .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

>

> ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

>

> ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

>

> .... 0... = Push: Not set

>

> .... .0.. = Reset: Not set

>

> .... ..1. = Syn: Set

>

> .... ...0 = Fin: Not set

>

> Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

>

> Data (0 Bytes)

>

> Binary dump of the packet:

>

> 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0. ....u.bM..E.

>

> 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03 A7 CE | .0r.@....P......

>

> 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00 70 02 | ...F....".....p.

>

> 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 C5 CE | ..E............

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> -----

> Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

>

> Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

>

> The new DLLs have been loaded:

>

> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

>

> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

>

> To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools, Options menu.

>

> File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

>

> File Description : Outlook Express

>

> File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe

>

> Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077 (Decimal)

>

> Connection origin : local initiated

>

> Protocol : TCP

>

> Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>

> Local Port : 1101

>

> Remote Name : news.optonline.net

>

> Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

>

> Remote Port : 119 (NNTP - Network News Transfer Protocol)

>

> Ethernet packet details:

>

> Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>

> Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>

> Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>

> Type: IP (0x0800)

>

> Internet Protocol

>

> Version: 4

>

> Header Length: 20 bytes

>

> Flags:

>

> .1.. = Don't fragment: Set

>

> ..0. = More fragments: Not set

>

> Fragment offset:0

>

> Time to live: 128

>

> Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

>

> Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

>

> Source: 192.168.2.3

>

> Destination: 209.197.15.254

>

> Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>

> Source port: 1101

>

> Destination port: 119

>

> Sequence number: 2582083

>

> Acknowledgment number: 0

>

> Header length: 28

>

> Flags:

>

> 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce (CWR): Not set

>

> .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

>

> ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

>

> ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

>

> .... 0... = Push: Not set

>

> .... .0.. = Reset: Not set

>

> .... ..1. = Syn: Set

>

> .... ...0 = Fin: Not set

>

> Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

>

> Data (0 Bytes)

>

> Binary dump of the packet:

>

> 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0. ....u.bM..E.

>

> 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03 D1 C5 | .0..@....T......

>

> 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00 70 02 | ...M.w.'fC....p.

>

> 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 6F 2F | .S...........

>

May 28, 2008

What is Quick Time

What is Quick Time

Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate says it was critical that I

had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and I don't even remember what

it is. Ginny

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I go to one of my OE accounts,

or

> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't let me go there. I will try to

> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal thing since I used the IE6sp1

> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more than I posted last night.

> So in summary, my computer works but only if I let it add a LOT of dlls.

Ginny

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >

> > I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing it. I downloaded

Sygate5.5.2577

> > as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

> > After installation it said IE was loading a new dll for Avast, so I said o.k. but

I

> > didn't write it down.

> >

> > Then it said IE is loading new dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System MFC42LOC.DLL

> > FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

> > FILE; I.E.

> > PROCESS ID FF872F29

> > (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

> > TCP t

> > (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

> > Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this :

> >

> > A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This is common if you have updated

> O.E.

> > lately. (because of firewall)

> >

> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

> >

> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

> >

> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools, Options

> menu.

> >

> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

> >

> > File Description : Outlook Express

> >

> > File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook

Express\msimn.exe

> >

> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077 (Decimal)

> >

> > Connection origin : local initiated

> >

> > Protocol : TCP

> >

> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

> >

> > Local Port : 1094

> >

> > Remote Name : mail.optonline.net

> >

> > Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

> >

> > Remote Port : 25 (SMTP - Simple Mail Transfer Protocol)

> >

> > Ethernet packet details:

> >

> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

> >

> > Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

> >

> > Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

> >

> > Type: IP (0x0800)

> >

> > Internet Protocol

> >

> > Version: 4

> >

> > Header Length: 20 bytes

> >

> > Flags:

> >

> > .1.. = Don't fragment: Set

> >

> > ..0. = More fragments: Not set

> >

> > Fragment offset:0

> >

> > Time to live: 128

> >

> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

> >

> > Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

> >

> > Source: 192.168.2.3

> >

> > Destination: 167.206.5.250

> >

> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

> >

> > Source port: 1094

> >

> > Destination port: 25

> >

> > Sequence number: 2040560

> >

> > Acknowledgment number: 0

> >

> > Header length: 28

> >

> > Flags:

> >

> > 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce (CWR): Not

set

> >

> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

> >

> > ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

> >

> > ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

> >

> > .... 0... = Push: Not set

> >

> > .... .0.. = Reset: Not set

> >

> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

> >

> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not set

> >

> > Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

> >

> > Data (0 Bytes)

> >

> > Binary dump of the packet:

> >

> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0. ....u.bM..E.

> >

> > 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03 A7 CE | .0r.@....P......

> >

> > 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00 70 02 | ...F....".....p.

> >

> > 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 C5 CE | ..E............

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> --

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> --

> > -----

> > Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

> >

> > Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

> >

> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

> >

> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

> >

> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

> >

> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools, Options

menu.

> >

> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

> >

> > File Description : Outlook Express

> >

> > File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook

Express\msimn.exe

> >

> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077 (Decimal)

> >

> > Connection origin : local initiated

> >

> > Protocol : TCP

> >

> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

> >

> > Local Port : 1101

> >

> > Remote Name : news.optonline.net

> >

> > Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

> >

> > Remote Port : 119 (NNTP - Network News Transfer Protocol)

> >

> > Ethernet packet details:

> >

> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

> >

> > Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

> >

> > Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

> >

> > Type: IP (0x0800)

> >

> > Internet Protocol

> >

> > Version: 4

> >

> > Header Length: 20 bytes

> >

> > Flags:

> >

> > .1.. = Don't fragment: Set

> >

> > ..0. = More fragments: Not set

> >

> > Fragment offset:0

> >

> > Time to live: 128

> >

> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

> >

> > Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

> >

> > Source: 192.168.2.3

> >

> > Destination: 209.197.15.254

> >

> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

> >

> > Source port: 1101

> >

> > Destination port: 119

> >

> > Sequence number: 2582083

> >

> > Acknowledgment number: 0

> >

> > Header length: 28

> >

> > Flags:

> >

> > 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce (CWR): Not

set

> >

> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

> >

> > ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

> >

> > ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

> >

> > .... 0... = Push: Not set

> >

> > .... .0.. = Reset: Not set

> >

> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

> >

> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not set

> >

> > Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

> >

> > Data (0 Bytes)

> >

> > Binary dump of the packet:

> >

> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0. ....u.bM..E.

> >

> > 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03 D1 C5 | .0..@....T......

> >

> > 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00 70 02 | ...M.w.'fC....p.

> >

> > 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 6F 2F | .S...........

> >

>

May 28, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

>Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate says it was critical that I

>had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and I don't even remember what

>it is. Ginny

QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and *.mp4 files,

which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will also get you

endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes (whether you have

iTunes or not).

--

Tim Slattery

MS MVP(Shell/User)

Slattery_T@bls.gov

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to

consider:

First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If you're

not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post it

here. After uninstalling that, then get:

MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer

then this patch:

http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.

> msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5 KB.

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on

>> > February

>> > 4,2002. I

>> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop.

>> > Ginny

>> >

>> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

>> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

>> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

>> >>

>> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

>> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

>> >> originally installed.

>> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

>> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

>> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

>> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

>> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

>> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

>> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

>> >> on it.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

>> >> tongue

>> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

>> >

>>

>

May 28, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

As I said in the email, you need to train the firewall (or get one that is

more user friendly.) As I am not familiar with these things, I suggest you

start a new thread asking for help with Sygate and/or recommendations for

something easier to use.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I go to one of my OE

> accounts, or

> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't let me go there. I will

> try to

> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal thing since I used the

> IE6sp1

> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more than I posted last

> night.

> So in summary, my computer works but only if I let it add a LOT of dlls.

> Ginny

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>

>> I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing it. I downloaded

>> Sygate5.5.2577

>> as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

>> After installation it said IE was loading a new dll for Avast, so I said

>> o.k. but I

>> didn't write it down.

>>

>> Then it said IE is loading new dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System MFC42LOC.DLL

>> FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

>> FILE; I.E.

>> PROCESS ID FF872F29

>> (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

>> TCP t

>> (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

>> Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this :

>>

>> A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This is common if you have

>> updated

> O.E.

>> lately. (because of firewall)

>>

>> The new DLLs have been loaded:

>>

>> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

>>

>> To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools,

>> Options

> menu.

>>

>> File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

>>

>> File Description : Outlook Express

>>

>> File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook

>> Express\msimn.exe

>>

>> Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077

>> (Decimal)

>>

>> Connection origin : local initiated

>>

>> Protocol : TCP

>>

>> Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>>

>> Local Port : 1094

>>

>> Remote Name : mail.optonline.net

>>

>> Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

>>

>> Remote Port : 25 (SMTP - Simple Mail Transfer

>> Protocol)

>>

>> Ethernet packet details:

>>

>> Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>>

>> Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>>

>> Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>>

>> Type: IP (0x0800)

>>

>> Internet Protocol

>>

>> Version: 4

>>

>> Header Length: 20 bytes

>>

>> Flags:

>>

>> .1.. = Don't fragment: Set

>>

>> ..0. = More fragments: Not set

>>

>> Fragment offset:0

>>

>> Time to live: 128

>>

>> Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

>>

>> Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

>>

>> Source: 192.168.2.3

>>

>> Destination: 167.206.5.250

>>

>> Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>>

>> Source port: 1094

>>

>> Destination port: 25

>>

>> Sequence number: 2040560

>>

>> Acknowledgment number: 0

>>

>> Header length: 28

>>

>> Flags:

>>

>> 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce

>> (CWR): Not set

>>

>> .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

>>

>> ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

>>

>> ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

>>

>> .... 0... = Push: Not set

>>

>> .... .0.. = Reset: Not set

>>

>> .... ..1. = Syn: Set

>>

>> .... ...0 = Fin: Not set

>>

>> Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

>>

>> Data (0 Bytes)

>>

>> Binary dump of the packet:

>>

>> 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0.

>> ....u.bM..E.

>>

>> 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03 A7 CE |

>> .0r.@....P......

>>

>> 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00 70 02 |

>> ...F....".....p.

>>

>> 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 C5 CE |

>> ..E............

>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> --

>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> --

>> -----

>> Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

>>

>> Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

>>

>> The new DLLs have been loaded:

>>

>> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

>>

>> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

>>

>> To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools,

>> Options menu.

>>

>> File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

>>

>> File Description : Outlook Express

>>

>> File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook

>> Express\msimn.exe

>>

>> Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077

>> (Decimal)

>>

>> Connection origin : local initiated

>>

>> Protocol : TCP

>>

>> Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>>

>> Local Port : 1101

>>

>> Remote Name : news.optonline.net

>>

>> Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

>>

>> Remote Port : 119 (NNTP - Network News Transfer

>> Protocol)

>>

>> Ethernet packet details:

>>

>> Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>>

>> Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>>

>> Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>>

>> Type: IP (0x0800)

>>

>> Internet Protocol

>>

>> Version: 4

>>

>> Header Length: 20 bytes

>>

>> Flags:

>>

>> .1.. = Don't fragment: Set

>>

>> ..0. = More fragments: Not set

>>

>> Fragment offset:0

>>

>> Time to live: 128

>>

>> Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

>>

>> Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

>>

>> Source: 192.168.2.3

>>

>> Destination: 209.197.15.254

>>

>> Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>>

>> Source port: 1101

>>

>> Destination port: 119

>>

>> Sequence number: 2582083

>>

>> Acknowledgment number: 0

>>

>> Header length: 28

>>

>> Flags:

>>

>> 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce

>> (CWR): Not set

>>

>> .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

>>

>> ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

>>

>> ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

>>

>> .... 0... = Push: Not set

>>

>> .... .0.. = Reset: Not set

>>

>> .... ..1. = Syn: Set

>>

>> .... ...0 = Fin: Not set

>>

>> Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

>>

>> Data (0 Bytes)

>>

>> Binary dump of the packet:

>>

>> 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0.

>> ....u.bM..E.

>>

>> 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03 D1 C5 |

>> .0..@....T......

>>

>> 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00 70 02 |

>> ...M.w.'fC....p.

>>

>> 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 6F 2F | .S...........

>>

>

May 28, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

It's a media player that you need to have installed in case you run into any

QT media. Harmless, though it's always wise, when doing the things you're

doing, to take the time to check for updated versions (though with Win98,

there aren't likely to be any.).

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483d7e53$0$11627$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate says it was

> critical that I

> had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and I don't even

> remember what

> it is. Ginny

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I go to one of my OE

>> accounts,

> or

>> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't let me go there. I

>> will try to

>> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal thing since I used the

>> IE6sp1

>> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more than I posted last

>> night.

>> So in summary, my computer works but only if I let it add a LOT of

>> dlls.

> Ginny

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >

>> > I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing it. I downloaded

> Sygate5.5.2577

>> > as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

>> > After installation it said IE was loading a new dll for Avast, so I

>> > said o.k. but

> I

>> > didn't write it down.

>> >

>> > Then it said IE is loading new dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System MFC42LOC.DLL

>> > FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

>> > FILE; I.E.

>> > PROCESS ID FF872F29

>> > (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

>> > TCP t

>> > (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

>> > Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this :

>> >

>> > A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This is common if you

>> > have updated

>> O.E.

>> > lately. (because of firewall)

>> >

>> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

>> >

>> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

>> >

>> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools,

>> > Options

>> menu.

>> >

>> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

>> >

>> > File Description : Outlook Express

>> >

>> > File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook

> Express\msimn.exe

>> >

>> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077

>> > (Decimal)

>> >

>> > Connection origin : local initiated

>> >

>> > Protocol : TCP

>> >

>> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>> >

>> > Local Port : 1094

>> >

>> > Remote Name : mail.optonline.net

>> >

>> > Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

>> >

>> > Remote Port : 25 (SMTP - Simple Mail Transfer

>> > Protocol)

>> >

>> > Ethernet packet details:

>> >

>> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>> >

>> > Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>> >

>> > Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>> >

>> > Type: IP (0x0800)

>> >

>> > Internet Protocol

>> >

>> > Version: 4

>> >

>> > Header Length: 20 bytes

>> >

>> > Flags:

>> >

>> > .1.. = Don't fragment: Set

>> >

>> > ..0. = More fragments: Not set

>> >

>> > Fragment offset:0

>> >

>> > Time to live: 128

>> >

>> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

>> >

>> > Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

>> >

>> > Source: 192.168.2.3

>> >

>> > Destination: 167.206.5.250

>> >

>> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>> >

>> > Source port: 1094

>> >

>> > Destination port: 25

>> >

>> > Sequence number: 2040560

>> >

>> > Acknowledgment number: 0

>> >

>> > Header length: 28

>> >

>> > Flags:

>> >

>> > 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce

>> > (CWR): Not

> set

>> >

>> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

>> >

>> > ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

>> >

>> > ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

>> >

>> > .... 0... = Push: Not set

>> >

>> > .... .0.. = Reset: Not set

>> >

>> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

>> >

>> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not set

>> >

>> > Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

>> >

>> > Data (0 Bytes)

>> >

>> > Binary dump of the packet:

>> >

>> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0.

>> > ....u.bM..E.

>> >

>> > 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03 A7 CE |

>> > .0r.@....P......

>> >

>> > 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00 70 02 |

>> > ...F....".....p.

>> >

>> > 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 C5 CE |

>> > ..E............

>>

>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> --

>>

>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> --

>> > -----

>> > Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

>> >

>> > Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

>> >

>> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

>> >

>> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

>> >

>> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

>> >

>> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools,

>> > Options

> menu.

>> >

>> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

>> >

>> > File Description : Outlook Express

>> >

>> > File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook

> Express\msimn.exe

>> >

>> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077

>> > (Decimal)

>> >

>> > Connection origin : local initiated

>> >

>> > Protocol : TCP

>> >

>> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>> >

>> > Local Port : 1101

>> >

>> > Remote Name : news.optonline.net

>> >

>> > Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

>> >

>> > Remote Port : 119 (NNTP - Network News Transfer

>> > Protocol)

>> >

>> > Ethernet packet details:

>> >

>> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>> >

>> > Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>> >

>> > Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>> >

>> > Type: IP (0x0800)

>> >

>> > Internet Protocol

>> >

>> > Version: 4

>> >

>> > Header Length: 20 bytes

>> >

>> > Flags:

>> >

>> > .1.. = Don't fragment: Set

>> >

>> > ..0. = More fragments: Not set

>> >

>> > Fragment offset:0

>> >

>> > Time to live: 128

>> >

>> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

>> >

>> > Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

>> >

>> > Source: 192.168.2.3

>> >

>> > Destination: 209.197.15.254

>> >

>> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>> >

>> > Source port: 1101

>> >

>> > Destination port: 119

>> >

>> > Sequence number: 2582083

>> >

>> > Acknowledgment number: 0

>> >

>> > Header length: 28

>> >

>> > Flags:

>> >

>> > 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce

>> > (CWR): Not

> set

>> >

>> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

>> >

>> > ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

>> >

>> > ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

>> >

>> > .... 0... = Push: Not set

>> >

>> > .... .0.. = Reset: Not set

>> >

>> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

>> >

>> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not set

>> >

>> > Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

>> >

>> > Data (0 Bytes)

>> >

>> > Binary dump of the packet:

>> >

>> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0.

>> > ....u.bM..E.

>> >

>> > 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03 D1 C5 |

>> > .0..@....T......

>> >

>> > 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00 70 02 |

>> > ...M.w.'fC....p.

>> >

>> > 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 6F 2F |

>> > .S...........

>> >

>>

>

May 28, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

thanks , I will uninstall it. Ginny

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

news:fa1r3490ic78jqm9d8p4mkkvf84r0rcg82@4ax.com...

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

>

> >Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate says it was critical that

I

> >had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and I don't even remember

what

> >it is. Ginny

>

> QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and *.mp4 files,

> which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will also get you

> endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes (whether you have

> iTunes or not).

>

> --

> Tim Slattery

> MS MVP(Shell/User)

> Slattery_T@bls.gov

May 28, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

Apple's QuickTime for 98 has not been supported for some time. It is a

security risk, and is severely outdated.

Unless you have some special need to use it online, do not allow it access

to the Internet.

Are you using AOL or some other ISP which installed this for you?

--

| http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

--

_________

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

news:fa1r3490ic78jqm9d8p4mkkvf84r0rcg82@4ax.com...

| "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

|

| >Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate says it was

critical that I

| >had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and I don't even

remember what

| >it is. Ginny

|

| QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and *.mp4 files,

| which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will also get you

| endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes (whether you have

| iTunes or not).

|

| --

| Tim Slattery

| MS MVP(Shell/User)

| Slattery_T@bls.gov

May 28, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

I already told you, that machine has had EVERYTHING installed on it at one

time or another, and been through several ISPs and their branding/helpful

software, etc.

But what should she do if she needs QT to play something? After all, what

you say about QT on Windows 98 could be said about Win98 itself. In fact, I

say it fairly regularly in places where people might actually listen.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/en-us

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:uzyZhGOwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Apple's QuickTime for 98 has not been supported for some time. It is a

> security risk, and is severely outdated.

> Unless you have some special need to use it online, do not allow it access

> to the Internet.

>

> Are you using AOL or some other ISP which installed this for you?

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

> news:fa1r3490ic78jqm9d8p4mkkvf84r0rcg82@4ax.com...

> | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

> |

> | >Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate says it was

> critical that I

> | >had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and I don't even

> remember what

> | >it is. Ginny

> |

> | QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and *.mp4 files,

> | which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will also get you

> | endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes (whether you have

> | iTunes or not).

> |

> | --

> | Tim Slattery

> | MS MVP(Shell/User)

> | Slattery_T@bls.gov

> | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

>

May 28, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

QT can be used locally, or one can find codex to handle that format in some

other player which IS being supported.

Right, you DO say that constantly, and you also attempt to foster the

notion that XP has become the world's favorite because its just so good and

secure, BS, the reason for increased usage is that it is difficult to find

computer's to support 9X, leaving the only viable Windows choice as XP, and

VISTA is still such a PITA. Try not to buy into the garbage spewed by media

and others... OR if you wish, we CAN discuss the POS XP which I DID spend

considerable time testing and monitoring... how good its,,, look HERE:

Think everything is fixed,,, guess again...

--

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uKoNOPOwIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| I already told you, that machine has had EVERYTHING installed on it at one

| time or another, and been through several ISPs and their branding/helpful

| software, etc.

|

| But what should she do if she needs QT to play something? After all, what

| you say about QT on Windows 98 could be said about Win98 itself. In fact,

I

| say it fairly regularly in places where people might actually listen.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:uzyZhGOwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > Apple's QuickTime for 98 has not been supported for some time. It is a

| > security risk, and is severely outdated.

| > Unless you have some special need to use it online, do not allow it

access

| > to the Internet.

| >

| > Are you using AOL or some other ISP which installed this for you?

| >

| > --

| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

| > news:fa1r3490ic78jqm9d8p4mkkvf84r0rcg82@4ax.com...

| > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

| > |

| > | >Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate says it was

| > critical that I

| > | >had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and I don't

even

| > remember what

| > | >it is. Ginny

| > |

| > | QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and *.mp4 files,

| > | which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will also get you

| > | endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes (whether you have

| > | iTunes or not).

| > |

| > | --

| > | Tim Slattery

| > | MS MVP(Shell/User)

| > | Slattery_T@bls.gov

| > | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

| >

|

May 28, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

I have QT 6 (updated to 6.5.2). (Current version is 7, so 6 is not so old.).

Works fine in Win98.

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Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:uzyZhGOwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Apple's QuickTime for 98 has not been supported for some time. It is a

> security risk, and is severely outdated.

> Unless you have some special need to use it online, do not allow it access

> to the Internet.

>

> Are you using AOL or some other ISP which installed this for you?

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

> news:fa1r3490ic78jqm9d8p4mkkvf84r0rcg82@4ax.com...

> | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

> |

> | >Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate says it was

> critical that I

> | >had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and I don't even

> remember what

> | >it is. Ginny

> |

> | QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and *.mp4 files,

> | which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will also get you

> | endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes (whether you have

> | iTunes or not).

> |

> | --

> | Tim Slattery

> | MS MVP(Shell/User)

> | Slattery_T@bls.gov

> | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

>

May 28, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

Correct me if I'm wrong, but IME it only nags if you leave that thing in the

tray. We removed it.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483d7e53$0$11627$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate says it was

> critical that I

> had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and I don't even

> remember what

> it is. Ginny

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I go to one of my OE

>> accounts,

> or

>> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't let me go there. I

>> will try to

>> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal thing since I used the

>> IE6sp1

>> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more than I posted last

>> night.

>> So in summary, my computer works but only if I let it add a LOT of

>> dlls.

> Ginny

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >

>> > I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing it. I downloaded

> Sygate5.5.2577

>> > as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

>> > After installation it said IE was loading a new dll for Avast, so I

>> > said o.k. but

> I

>> > didn't write it down.

>> >

>> > Then it said IE is loading new dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System MFC42LOC.DLL

>> > FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

>> > FILE; I.E.

>> > PROCESS ID FF872F29

>> > (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

>> > TCP t

>> > (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

>> > Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this :

>> >

>> > A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This is common if you

>> > have updated

>> O.E.

>> > lately. (because of firewall)

>> >

>> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

>> >

>> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

>> >

>> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools,

>> > Options

>> menu.

>> >

>> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

>> >

>> > File Description : Outlook Express

>> >

>> > File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook

> Express\msimn.exe

>> >

>> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077

>> > (Decimal)

>> >

>> > Connection origin : local initiated

>> >

>> > Protocol : TCP

>> >

>> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>> >

>> > Local Port : 1094

>> >

>> > Remote Name : mail.optonline.net

>> >

>> > Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

>> >

>> > Remote Port : 25 (SMTP - Simple Mail Transfer

>> > Protocol)

>> >

>> > Ethernet packet details:

>> >

>> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>> >

>> > Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>> >

>> > Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>> >

>> > Type: IP (0x0800)

>> >

>> > Internet Protocol

>> >

>> > Version: 4

>> >

>> > Header Length: 20 bytes

>> >

>> > Flags:

>> >

>> > .1.. = Don't fragment: Set

>> >

>> > ..0. = More fragments: Not set

>> >

>> > Fragment offset:0

>> >

>> > Time to live: 128

>> >

>> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

>> >

>> > Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

>> >

>> > Source: 192.168.2.3

>> >

>> > Destination: 167.206.5.250

>> >

>> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>> >

>> > Source port: 1094

>> >

>> > Destination port: 25

>> >

>> > Sequence number: 2040560

>> >

>> > Acknowledgment number: 0

>> >

>> > Header length: 28

>> >

>> > Flags:

>> >

>> > 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce

>> > (CWR): Not

> set

>> >

>> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

>> >

>> > ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

>> >

>> > ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

>> >

>> > .... 0... = Push: Not set

>> >

>> > .... .0.. = Reset: Not set

>> >

>> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

>> >

>> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not set

>> >

>> > Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

>> >

>> > Data (0 Bytes)

>> >

>> > Binary dump of the packet:

>> >

>> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0.

>> > ....u.bM..E.

>> >

>> > 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03 A7 CE |

>> > .0r.@....P......

>> >

>> > 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00 70 02 |

>> > ...F....".....p.

>> >

>> > 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 C5 CE |

>> > ..E............

>>

>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> --

>>

>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> --

>> > -----

>> > Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

>> >

>> > Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

>> >

>> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

>> >

>> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

>> >

>> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

>> >

>> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the Tools,

>> > Options

> menu.

>> >

>> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

>> >

>> > File Description : Outlook Express

>> >

>> > File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook

> Express\msimn.exe

>> >

>> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal) 4294501077

>> > (Decimal)

>> >

>> > Connection origin : local initiated

>> >

>> > Protocol : TCP

>> >

>> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>> >

>> > Local Port : 1101

>> >

>> > Remote Name : news.optonline.net

>> >

>> > Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

>> >

>> > Remote Port : 119 (NNTP - Network News Transfer

>> > Protocol)

>> >

>> > Ethernet packet details:

>> >

>> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>> >

>> > Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>> >

>> > Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>> >

>> > Type: IP (0x0800)

>> >

>> > Internet Protocol

>> >

>> > Version: 4

>> >

>> > Header Length: 20 bytes

>> >

>> > Flags:

>> >

>> > .1.. = Don't fragment: Set

>> >

>> > ..0. = More fragments: Not set

>> >

>> > Fragment offset:0

>> >

>> > Time to live: 128

>> >

>> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)

>> >

>> > Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

>> >

>> > Source: 192.168.2.3

>> >

>> > Destination: 209.197.15.254

>> >

>> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>> >

>> > Source port: 1101

>> >

>> > Destination port: 119

>> >

>> > Sequence number: 2582083

>> >

>> > Acknowledgment number: 0

>> >

>> > Header length: 28

>> >

>> > Flags:

>> >

>> > 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce

>> > (CWR): Not

> set

>> >

>> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set

>> >

>> > ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set

>> >

>> > ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set

>> >

>> > .... 0... = Push: Not set

>> >

>> > .... .0.. = Reset: Not set

>> >

>> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

>> >

>> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not set

>> >

>> > Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

>> >

>> > Data (0 Bytes)

>> >

>> > Binary dump of the packet:

>> >

>> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0.

>> > ....u.bM..E.

>> >

>> > 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03 D1 C5 |

>> > .0..@....T......

>> >

>> > 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00 70 02 |

>> > ...M.w.'fC....p.

>> >

>> > 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 6F 2F |

>> > .S...........

>> >

>>

>

May 28, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

So right, you check for the loader/tray stub with MSCONFIG, and disabled it

if its not presently part of a current AOL ISP package. If it is, then a

different course might be needed

Same for Real Player.

Also disable Check for Updates..

--

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:OqfkOdOwIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| Correct me if I'm wrong, but IME it only nags if you leave that thing in

the

| tray. We removed it.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User