IE Running well so far

> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>> My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on February

>>> 4,2002. I

>>> bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop. Ginny

>>>

>>> "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

>>> news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

>>>> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

>>>> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

>>>> originally installed.

>>>> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

>>>> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

>>>> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

>>>> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

>>>> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

>>>> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

>>>> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

>>>> on it.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

>>>> tongue

>>>> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

>>>

>

--

Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.

Please followup in the newsgroup.

E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

May 29, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will uninstall that

update(4.0sdk).

The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if I uninstall it I

will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest idea what it came

with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further investigation shows that

the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for

Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is why I can't open

it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what CD it would be on

to re-install.

I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online. Gin

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to

> consider:

> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If you're

> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post it

> here. After uninstalling that, then get:

>

> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer

>

> then this patch:

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.

> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5 KB.

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>

> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on

> >> > February

> >> > 4,2002. I

> >> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop.

> >> > Ginny

> >> >

> >> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

> >> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

> >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

> >> >>

> >> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

> >> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

> >> >> originally installed.

> >> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

> >> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

> >> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

> >> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

> >> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

> >> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

> >> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

> >> >> on it.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

> >> >> tongue

> >> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

ME? Need a primer,, ah , noooooo, why would I look anywhere when I have my

OWN test results,,,,

--

| http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:OeKI$QSwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| Anyway. Do you really need a primer in what made all 9x systems

unutterably

| obsolete long ago?

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:OWeKt3OwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:%23k1oCnOwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | Windows XP is no more a POS than 98. I don't use Vista so I can't

| > comment,

| > | but I imagine it's the same thing, though I tend to think of Vista as

| > XP's

| > | ME. As for your hardware argument, that's total BS. Windows 98 lost

it's

| > | market share (dropped into the low single-digits) long before new

| > hardware

| > | stopped supporting it.

| > |

| > | People LIKE operating systems that just work. Windows XP is and always

| > has

| > | been more robust than 98. That's why IT people like it (go ahead, show

| > me

| > a

| > | survey of IT's where 98 is compared favorably with other systems.)

| > That's

| > | why home users and SOHO users and everyone else like XP. As for

| > security,

| > | the only difference between now on XP and then on 98 is in the

details.

| >

| > IT goes for what's EASY to use, what seems to be hot, and are just as

| > easily mislead as any other party.

| > Just as the home user THOUGHT they were getting a much more secure

system,

| > so did IT. Just as the home user doesn't want to spend much time

learning

| > how to use a computer, so does IT.

| > The relational charcturistics between home and IT or other professionals

| > runs parallel. Look on the one hand at IT trying to secure their

systems,

| > and the other; the web development department attempting to create new

| > ways

| > to garner more information via script and other... how smart is this.

| >

| > The market you reference, showing usage reflects only that people CAN be

| > convinced to use products which they actually know nothing about, just

| > because its easier to use and happens to be widely accepted, and

hardware

| > support has NOT been provided in the previous OS, though much of it

could

| > have been by simple updates.... so it isn't necessarily a

| > better/easier/just

| > works OS, its a forced upgrade to get what you want or think you need,

or

| > does some more setup FOR YOU.

| >

| > If they actually knew much or had an actual desire to learn, they'd be

| > using one of the Linux clones or other OS. Were it not for the DEEP

| > relationship with manufacturers that Microsoft now has, Windows wouldn't

| > be

| > anywhere near the usage level that it is; between the two FORCING

Windows

| > usage

| >

| > |

| > | As for security, the main issues involve IE and OE and if Win9x was

| > | supported, they'd be getting just as many patches. As for other things

| > that

| > | needed fixing, 9x had just as many in relative terms.

| > |

| > | Look, ANY argument that compares OS security and DOESN'T take into

| > account

| > | market share, the "biggest bang for the buck" operational theory of

| > malware

| > | writers, etc., is pure sophistry.

| > |

| > | And you didn't deny my original premise, did you?

| >

| > It wouldn't do any good, but I can see you would be willing to defend

your

| > position, I knew you would ;-]..

| >

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:%23l7eJaOwIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > | > QT can be used locally, or one can find codex to handle that format

in

| > | > some

| > | > other player which IS being supported.

| > | >

| > | > Right, you DO say that constantly, and you also attempt to foster

the

| > | > notion that XP has become the world's favorite because its just so

| > good

| > | > and

| > | > secure, BS, the reason for increased usage is that it is difficult

to

| > find

| > | > computer's to support 9X, leaving the only viable Windows choice as

| > XP,

| > | > and

| > | > VISTA is still such a PITA. Try not to buy into the garbage spewed

by

| > | > media

| > | > and others... OR if you wish, we CAN discuss the POS XP which I DID

| > spend

| > | > considerable time testing and monitoring... how good its,,, look

HERE:

| > | >

| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/en-us

| > | >

| > | > Think everything is fixed,,, guess again...

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > --

| > | > _________

| >

| > --

| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > | >

| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > news:uKoNOPOwIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > | I already told you, that machine has had EVERYTHING installed on

it

| > at

| > | > one

| > | > | time or another, and been through several ISPs and their

| > | > branding/helpful

| > | > | software, etc.

| > | > |

| > | > | But what should she do if she needs QT to play something? After

all,

| > | > what

| > | > | you say about QT on Windows 98 could be said about Win98 itself.

In

| > | > fact,

| > | > I

| > | > | say it fairly regularly in places where people might actually

| > listen.

| > | > |

| > | > | --

| > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | > |

| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | news:uzyZhGOwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > Apple's QuickTime for 98 has not been supported for some time.

It

| > is

| > a

| > | > | > security risk, and is severely outdated.

| > | > | > Unless you have some special need to use it online, do not allow

| > it

| > | > access

| > | > | > to the Internet.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Are you using AOL or some other ISP which installed this for

you?

| > | > | >

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > _________

| > | > | >

| > | > | > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

| > | > | > news:fa1r3490ic78jqm9d8p4mkkvf84r0rcg82@4ax.com...

| > | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | >Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate says

it

| > was

| > | > | > critical that I

| > | > | > | >had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and I

| > don't

| > | > even

| > | > | > remember what

| > | > | > | >it is. Ginny

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and *.mp4

| > files,

| > | > | > | which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will also

get

| > you

| > | > | > | endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes (whether you

| > have

| > | > | > | iTunes or not).

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | --

| > | > | > | Tim Slattery

| > | > | > | MS MVP(Shell/User)

| > | > | > | Slattery_T@bls.gov

| > | > | > | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

| > | > | >

| > | > |

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

Ah ,YOU brought capitalism as an issue, I see NO WHERE in my posts that

indicates that.

WHY would I post that in this group???

I spent more than a month in this group attempting to discuss and explain

the XP hard drive issues with 9X,,, had many of the posters put material

into the discussion which they had no idea of, *discredit [or rather attempt

to do so] ACTAUL functions IN XP*, and the final outcome came to "NOT"

checking Smart statistics because the drive APPEARED to be clean... who

cares if its not realistic, who cares if anything had been re-allocated, who

cares....

Now if you can explain to me why I would do this again, post it...

As for daily use: that's funny, not only daily use, but FAR more....

There is no bias on my part, but there certainly is on yours, I HAVE run

other non-Microsoft OSs.... and did the same thing in those OSs, testing,

defining, clarifying,,, and using. Guess what, I intend to do it again...

Are we done yet?

--

| http://www.grystmill.com

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uMZL4JQwIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| I didn't say testing and monitoring wouldn't tell you a lot, but if you

| haven't actually used it day in and day out, doing all the things that

| people do with their desktop PCs, you have nothing but nerdy, yes.

|

| So what's your results. In particular, discuss the comparative features

and

| why you seem to think that all the extra functionality in XP is plain

| worthless, or could just as easily be done in 9x. Synopsize and hit the

high

| points, please. I'm not up to reams of data.

|

| I gotta tell you, your bias is showing all over the place, and I ALWAYS

| remember that statistics can be easily misconstrued and/or made to lie.

|

| And if your real gripe is capitalism in general, then let's leave off this

| discussion, OK?

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:evO68%23OwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > That's usage monitoring. file monitoring, network monitoring, Internet

| > monitoring, disk monitoring, service monitoring, device monitoring,

| > etc.,,,

| > ah, that's far beyond simple usage. Seems that would give me a bit more

| > knowledge,, but then that would be relative and nerdy wouldn't it..

| >

| > --

| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:Oyaln3OwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | Testing and monitoring... But not really using? ROTFLMAO!!! That

leaves

| > you

| > | well prepared for nothing more than just so much nerdy babble.

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:%23l7eJaOwIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > | > QT can be used locally, or one can find codex to handle that format

in

| > | > some

| > | > other player which IS being supported.

| > | >

| > | > Right, you DO say that constantly, and you also attempt to foster

the

| > | > notion that XP has become the world's favorite because its just so

| > good

| > | > and

| > | > secure, BS, the reason for increased usage is that it is difficult

to

| > find

| > | > computer's to support 9X, leaving the only viable Windows choice as

| > XP,

| > | > and

| > | > VISTA is still such a PITA. Try not to buy into the garbage spewed

by

| > | > media

| > | > and others... OR if you wish, we CAN discuss the POS XP which I DID

| > spend

| > | > considerable time testing and monitoring... how good its,,, look

HERE:

| > | >

| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/en-us

| > | >

| > | > Think everything is fixed,,, guess again...

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > --

| > | > _________

| > | >

| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > news:uKoNOPOwIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > | I already told you, that machine has had EVERYTHING installed on

it

| > at

| > | > one

| > | > | time or another, and been through several ISPs and their

| > | > branding/helpful

| > | > | software, etc.

| > | > |

| > | > | But what should she do if she needs QT to play something? After

all,

| >

| > | > what

| > | > | you say about QT on Windows 98 could be said about Win98 itself.

In

| > | > fact,

| > | > I

| > | > | say it fairly regularly in places where people might actually

| > listen.

| > | > |

| > | > | --

| > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | > |

| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | news:uzyZhGOwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > Apple's QuickTime for 98 has not been supported for some time.

It

| > is

| > a

| > | > | > security risk, and is severely outdated.

| > | > | > Unless you have some special need to use it online, do not allow

| > it

| > | > access

| > | > | > to the Internet.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Are you using AOL or some other ISP which installed this for

you?

| > | > | >

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > _________

| > | > | >

| > | > | > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

| > | > | > news:fa1r3490ic78jqm9d8p4mkkvf84r0rcg82@4ax.com...

| > | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | >Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate says

it

| > was

| > | > | > critical that I

| > | > | > | >had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and I

| > don't

| > | > even

| > | > | > remember what

| > | > | > | >it is. Ginny

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and *.mp4

| > files,

| > | > | > | which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will also

get

| > you

| > | > | > | endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes (whether you

| > have

| > | > | > | iTunes or not).

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | --

| > | > | > | Tim Slattery

| > | > | > | MS MVP(Shell/User)

| > | > | > | Slattery_T@bls.gov

| > | > | > | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

| > | > | >

| > | > |

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

Not to take Gary's place, but are these actually being changed or are they

just being called for?

DLLs are dynamic link libraries which generally are NOT changed that much

but by updates applied by YOU. If you're finished updating then they should

be stable.

--

--

_________

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| I don't mind training something. I simply don;t know if it is o.k. to

allow every

| program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook Express. If

it is

| harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it seems to

me we

| spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong and

putting in

| .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my Internet

Explorer

| and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.

| It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate reporting

to me that

| these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before Sygate, my

programs

| were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?

|

| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are viewed

using a

| > QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and they

are

| > just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit), installed

by

| > the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet Options?

On

| > what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my system as

I am

| > in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just uninstall

QT

| > in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go back and

| > reinstall it if you discover you need it.

| >

| > But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train that

| > firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process, uninstall it

and

| > either use something else or nothing at all. You already have pretty

decent

| > protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done

bugging

| > you, not by a LONG shot.

| >

| > --

| > Gary S. Terhune

| > MS-MVP Shell/User

| > http://www.grystmill.com

| >

| > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have Quick

| > >Time in

| > > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to my son

and

| > > another

| > > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following (long

list)

| > > of

| > > components to your system, do you want them to access the internet."

Why

| > > would I want

| > > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer while I am

| > > trying to do

| > > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would like

to

| > > uninstall

| > > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know what

QT32

| > > is!!! A

| > > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank.

Ginny

| > >

| > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of the bed

| > >> this

| > >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though I must

say

| > >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his feelings

| > >> about

| > >> XP.

| > >>

| > >> --

| > >> Gary S. Terhune

| > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

| > >> http://www.grystmill.com

| > >>

| > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny

| > >> >

| > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > >> > news:OtdhcSQwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > >> >> I've simply been answering your questions. You're the one acting

| > >> >> strangely

| > >> >> today. And you most certainly did make a judgment and

recommendations

| > >> >> about

| > >> >> what was installed without finding out the facts first, such as

what

| > >> >> was

| > >> >> really installed. That's what I called you on.

| > >> >>

| > >> >> No, I'd say you are the one on a tear, today. Note your

full-frontal

| > >> >> assault

| > >> >> on me in the other sub-thread on this topic.

| > >> >>

| > >> >> --

| > >> >> Gary S. Terhune

| > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

| > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

| > >> >>

| > >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > >> >> news:Ocmk67OwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > >> >> > I didn't make a judgement, its what we generally do, double

check

| > >> >> > each

| > >> >> > other...

| > >> >> >

| > >> >> > And you're right, one does remove the actual entries and files

if

| > >> >> > possible.

| > >> >> > But MSCONFIG is your normal choice to use for these things, for

| > >> >> > testing

| > >> >> > purposes. I USE autoruns or other tools... and I DID mention AOL

as

| > >> >> > being

| > >> >> > a

| > >> >> > possible issue...

| > >> >> >

| > >> >> > Forget it Gary, seems I've touched a nerve today...

| > >> >> >

| > >> >> > --

| > >> >> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > >> >> > --

| > >> >> > _________

| > >> >> >

| > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > >> >> > news:OpJp60OwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > >> >> > | What gets me is that you would assume that some old version of

QT

| > >> >> > was

| > >> >> > | installed and never updated. That you didn't take into account

the

| > >> >> > | possibility that it is an updated version or that the tray

stub

| > >> >> > had

| > >> >> > been

| > >> >> > | disabled as is (or at least was) so often recommended in this

| > >> >> > group.

| > >> >> > (Same

| > >> >> > | for RP and any number of other such nuisances.) You failed in

| > >> >> > something

| > >> >> > you

| > >> >> > | usually do so well -- finding out the whole story before

making

| > >> >> > any

| > >> >> > | judgments and issuing advice.

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >> > | --

| > >> >> > | Gary S. Terhune

| > >> >> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > >> >> > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >> > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > >> >> > | news:Oc4KUjOwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > >> >> > | > So right, you check for the loader/tray stub with MSCONFIG,

and

| > >> >> > disabled

| > >> >> > | > it

| > >> >> > | > if its not presently part of a current AOL ISP package. If

it

| > >> >> > is,

| > >> >> > then

| > >> >> > a

| > >> >> > | > different course might be needed

| > >> >> > | > Same for Real Player.

| > >> >> > | >

| > >> >> > | > Also disable Check for Updates..

| > >> >> > | >

| > >> >> > | > --

| > >> >> > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > >> >> > | > --

| > >> >> > | > _________

| > >> >> > | >

| > >> >> > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > >> >> > | > news:OqfkOdOwIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > >> >> > | > | Correct me if I'm wrong, but IME it only nags if you leave

| > >> >> > that

| > >> >> > thing

| > >> >> > in

| > >> >> > | > the

| > >> >> > | > | tray. We removed it.

| > >> >> > | > |

| > >> >> > | > | --

| > >> >> > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > >> >> > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > >> >> > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > >> >> > | > |

| > >> >> > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > >> >> > | > | news:483d7e53$0$11627$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > >> >> > | > | > Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate

says

| > >> >> > it

| > >> >> > was

| > >> >> > | > | > critical that I

| > >> >> > | > | > had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time,

and I

| > >> >> > don't

| > >> >> > | > even

| > >> >> > | > | > remember what

| > >> >> > | > | > it is. Ginny

| > >> >> > | > | >

| > >> >> > | > | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > >> >> > | > | > news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > >> >> > | > | >> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I go

to

| > >> >> > one

| > >> >> > of

| > >> >> > my

| > >> >> > | > OE

| > >> >> > | > | >> accounts,

| > >> >> > | > | > or

| > >> >> > | > | >> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't let

me

| > >> >> > go

| > >> >> > there.

| > >> >> > I

| > >> >> > | > | >> will try to

| > >> >> > | > | >> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal

thing

| > >> >> > since

| > >> >> > I

| > >> >> > used

| > >> >> > | > the

| > >> >> > | > | >> IE6sp1

| > >> >> > | > | >> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more

than I

| > >> >> > posted

| > >> >> > | > last

| > >> >> > | > | >> night.

| > >> >> > | > | >> So in summary, my computer works but only if I let

it

| > >> >> > add a

| > >> >> > LOT

| > >> >> > of

| > >> >> > | > | >> dlls.

| > >> >> > | > | > Ginny

| > >> >> > | > | >>

| > >> >> > | > | >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > >> >> > | > | >> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing

it. I

| > >> >> > | > downloaded

| > >> >> > | > | > Sygate5.5.2577

| > >> >> > | > | >> > as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

| > >> >> > | > | >> > After installation it said IE was loading a new dll

for

| > >> >> > Avast,

| > >> >> > so

| > >> >> > I

| > >> >> > | > | >> > said o.k. but

| > >> >> > | > | > I

| > >> >> > | > | >> > didn't write it down.

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Then it said IE is loading new

dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System

| > >> >> > | > MFC42LOC.DLL

| > >> >> > | > | >> > FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

| > >> >> > | > | >> > FILE; I.E.

| > >> >> > | > | >> > PROCESS ID FF872F29

| > >> >> > | > | >> > (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

| > >> >> > | > | >> > TCP t

| > >> >> > | > | >> > (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this :

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This is

| > >> >> > common

| > >> >> > if

| > >> >> > you

| > >> >> > | > | >> > have updated

| > >> >> > | > | >> O.E.

| > >> >> > | > | >> > lately. (because of firewall)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

| > >> >> > SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab

| > >> >> > under

| > >> >> > the

| > >> >> > | > Tools,

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Options

| > >> >> > | > | >> menu.

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

| > >> >> > Files\Outlook

| > >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

| > >> >> > (Heximal)

| > >> >> > | > 4294501077

| > >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1094

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name : mail.optonline.net

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 25 (SMTP - Simple

| > >> >> > Mail

| > >> >> > Transfer

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:

00-30-bd-20-ef-95

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

00-04-75-ad-62-4d

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't

fragment:

| > >> >> > Set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More

fragments:

| > >> >> > Not

| > >> >> > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

Control

| > >> >> > Protocol)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 167.206.5.250

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1094

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 25

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2040560

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =

Congestion

| > >> >> > Window

| > >> >> > | > Reduce

| > >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

| > >> >> > | > | > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo:

Not

| > >> >> > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

Not

| > >> >> > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

| > >> >> > Acknowledgment:

| > >> >> > Not

| > >> >> > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push: Not

set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset:

Not

| > >> >> > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not

set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45

00

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >> > .0.

| > >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03 A7

CE

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .0r.@....P......

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00 70

02

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >> > | > | >> > ...F....".....p.

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 C5

CE

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >> > | > | >> > ..E............

| > >> >> > | > | >>

| > >> >> > | > |

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >>

>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

-

| > >> >> > -

| > >> >> > | > ----------

| > >> >> > | > | >> --

| > >> >> > | > | >>

| > >> >> > | > |

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >>

>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

-

| > >> >> > -

| > >> >> > | > ----------

| > >> >> > | > | >> --

| > >> >> > | > | >> > -----

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

| > >> >> > | > SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

| > >> >> > SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab

| > >> >> > under

| > >> >> > the

| > >> >> > | > Tools,

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Options

| > >> >> > | > | > menu.

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

| > >> >> > Files\Outlook

| > >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

| > >> >> > (Heximal)

| > >> >> > | > 4294501077

| > >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1101

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name : news.optonline.net

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 119 (NNTP -

Network

| > >> >> > News

| > >> >> > | > Transfer

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:

00-30-bd-20-ef-95

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

00-04-75-ad-62-4d

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't

fragment:

| > >> >> > Set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More

fragments:

| > >> >> > Not

| > >> >> > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

Control

| > >> >> > Protocol)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 209.197.15.254

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1101

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 119

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2582083

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =

Congestion

| > >> >> > Window

| > >> >> > | > Reduce

| > >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

| > >> >> > | > | > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo:

Not

| > >> >> > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

Not

| > >> >> > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

| > >> >> > Acknowledgment:

| > >> >> > Not

| > >> >> > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push: Not

set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset:

Not

| > >> >> > set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not

set

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45

00

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >> > .0.

| > >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03 D1

C5

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .0..@....T......

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00 70

02

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >> > | > | >> > ...M.w.'fC....p.

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 6F

2F

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >> > | > | >> > .S...........

| > >> >> > | > | >> >

| > >> >> > | > | >>

| > >> >> > | > | >

| > >> >> > | > |

| > >> >> > | >

| > >> >> > |

| > >> >> >

| > >> >>

| > >> >

| > >>

| > >

| >

|

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

Well yeah, you sorta did when you said how could one quit working? :-)

And I (essentially) replied, "it's simple - you just downscale")

MEB wrote:

> Ah ,YOU brought capitalism as an issue, I see NO WHERE in my posts that

> indicates that.

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

That's what I thought! But when I went to 'Chase', Sygate told me that a whole list

of about 10 .dlls HAD BEEN INSTALLED by Quick Time and asked if I want to allow them

through the firewall, online. I said 'no' and got a message that the page was

unavailable. I had to do my banking...so the next time I said yes and did my banking.

I guess I just have to assume that Sygate knows what it's doing

Then I went into a clean boot, went to add/remove programs and tried to uninstall

Quick Time (it recommends uninstalling and reinstalling.) When I clicked on it to

uninstall, It said that "the program it came with would be uninstalled'. Since I

didn't know which program, I backed out. I looked through my CD's and found the

program that downloads my pictures from my digital camera to the computer came with

Quick Time. But from there I store my pictures on my C drive. So I will not lose any

pictures by removing it and reinstalling it, so I will go ahead and do that.

If you have any other ideas about the dlls and Sygagte, let me know Ginny

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:OiXKs2SwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Not to take Gary's place, but are these actually being changed or are they

> just being called for?

> DLLs are dynamic link libraries which generally are NOT changed that much

> but by updates applied by YOU. If you're finished updating then they should

> be stable.

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | I don't mind training something. I simply don;t know if it is o.k. to

> allow every

> | program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook Express. If

> it is

> | harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it seems to

> me we

> | spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong and

> putting in

> | .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my Internet

> Explorer

> | and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.

> | It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate reporting

> to me that

> | these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before Sygate, my

> programs

> | were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?

> |

> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are viewed

> using a

> | > QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and they

> are

> | > just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit), installed

> by

> | > the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet Options?

> On

> | > what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my system as

> I am

> | > in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just uninstall

> QT

> | > in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go back and

> | > reinstall it if you discover you need it.

> | >

> | > But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train that

> | > firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process, uninstall it

> and

> | > either use something else or nothing at all. You already have pretty

> decent

> | > protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done

> bugging

> | > you, not by a LONG shot.

> | >

> | > --

> | > Gary S. Terhune

> | > MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > http://www.grystmill.com

> | >

> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have Quick

> | > >Time in

> | > > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to my son

> and

> | > > another

> | > > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following (long

> list)

> | > > of

> | > > components to your system, do you want them to access the internet."

> Why

> | > > would I want

> | > > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer while I am

> | > > trying to do

> | > > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would like

> to

> | > > uninstall

> | > > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know what

> QT32

> | > > is!!! A

> | > > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank.

> Ginny

> | > >

> | > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of the bed

> | > >> this

> | > >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though I must

> say

> | > >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his feelings

> | > >> about

> | > >> XP.

> | > >>

> | > >> --

> | > >> Gary S. Terhune

> | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > >> http://www.grystmill.com

> | > >>

> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny

> | > >> >

> | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > >> > news:OtdhcSQwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > >> >> I've simply been answering your questions. You're the one acting

> | > >> >> strangely

> | > >> >> today. And you most certainly did make a judgment and

> recommendations

> | > >> >> about

> | > >> >> what was installed without finding out the facts first, such as

> what

> | > >> >> was

> | > >> >> really installed. That's what I called you on.

> | > >> >>

> | > >> >> No, I'd say you are the one on a tear, today. Note your

> full-frontal

> | > >> >> assault

> | > >> >> on me in the other sub-thread on this topic.

> | > >> >>

> | > >> >> --

> | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> | > >> >>

> | > >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > >> >> news:Ocmk67OwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > >> >> > I didn't make a judgement, its what we generally do, double

> check

> | > >> >> > each

> | > >> >> > other...

> | > >> >> >

> | > >> >> > And you're right, one does remove the actual entries and files

> if

> | > >> >> > possible.

> | > >> >> > But MSCONFIG is your normal choice to use for these things, for

> | > >> >> > testing

> | > >> >> > purposes. I USE autoruns or other tools... and I DID mention AOL

> as

> | > >> >> > being

> | > >> >> > a

> | > >> >> > possible issue...

> | > >> >> >

> | > >> >> > Forget it Gary, seems I've touched a nerve today...

> | > >> >> >

> | > >> >> > --

> | > >> >> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > >> >> > --

> | > >> >> > _________

> | > >> >> >

> | > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > news:OpJp60OwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > >> >> > | What gets me is that you would assume that some old version of

> QT

> | > >> >> > was

> | > >> >> > | installed and never updated. That you didn't take into account

> the

> | > >> >> > | possibility that it is an updated version or that the tray

> stub

> | > >> >> > had

> | > >> >> > been

> | > >> >> > | disabled as is (or at least was) so often recommended in this

> | > >> >> > group.

> | > >> >> > (Same

> | > >> >> > | for RP and any number of other such nuisances.) You failed in

> | > >> >> > something

> | > >> >> > you

> | > >> >> > | usually do so well -- finding out the whole story before

> making

> | > >> >> > any

> | > >> >> > | judgments and issuing advice.

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | --

> | > >> >> > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > >> >> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > >> >> > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > | news:Oc4KUjOwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > >> >> > | > So right, you check for the loader/tray stub with MSCONFIG,

> and

> | > >> >> > disabled

> | > >> >> > | > it

> | > >> >> > | > if its not presently part of a current AOL ISP package. If

> it

> | > >> >> > is,

> | > >> >> > then

> | > >> >> > a

> | > >> >> > | > different course might be needed

> | > >> >> > | > Same for Real Player.

> | > >> >> > | >

> | > >> >> > | > Also disable Check for Updates..

> | > >> >> > | >

> | > >> >> > | > --

> | > >> >> > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > >> >> > | > --

> | > >> >> > | > _________

> | > >> >> > | >

> | > >> >> > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > | > news:OqfkOdOwIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > >> >> > | > | Correct me if I'm wrong, but IME it only nags if you leave

> | > >> >> > that

> | > >> >> > thing

> | > >> >> > in

> | > >> >> > | > the

> | > >> >> > | > | tray. We removed it.

> | > >> >> > | > |

> | > >> >> > | > | --

> | > >> >> > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > >> >> > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > >> >> > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > >> >> > | > |

> | > >> >> > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > | > | news:483d7e53$0$11627$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > >> >> > | > | > Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate

> says

> | > >> >> > it

> | > >> >> > was

> | > >> >> > | > | > critical that I

> | > >> >> > | > | > had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time,

> and I

> | > >> >> > don't

> | > >> >> > | > even

> | > >> >> > | > | > remember what

> | > >> >> > | > | > it is. Ginny

> | > >> >> > | > | >

> | > >> >> > | > | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > | > | > news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > >> >> > | > | >> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I go

> to

> | > >> >> > one

> | > >> >> > of

> | > >> >> > my

> | > >> >> > | > OE

> | > >> >> > | > | >> accounts,

> | > >> >> > | > | > or

> | > >> >> > | > | >> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't let

> me

> | > >> >> > go

> | > >> >> > there.

> | > >> >> > I

> | > >> >> > | > | >> will try to

> | > >> >> > | > | >> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal

> thing

> | > >> >> > since

> | > >> >> > I

> | > >> >> > used

> | > >> >> > | > the

> | > >> >> > | > | >> IE6sp1

> | > >> >> > | > | >> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more

> than I

> | > >> >> > posted

> | > >> >> > | > last

> | > >> >> > | > | >> night.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> So in summary, my computer works but only if I let

> it

> | > >> >> > add a

> | > >> >> > LOT

> | > >> >> > of

> | > >> >> > | > | >> dlls.

> | > >> >> > | > | > Ginny

> | > >> >> > | > | >>

> | > >> >> > | > | >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > | > | >> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing

> it. I

> | > >> >> > | > downloaded

> | > >> >> > | > | > Sygate5.5.2577

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > After installation it said IE was loading a new dll

> for

> | > >> >> > Avast,

> | > >> >> > so

> | > >> >> > I

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > said o.k. but

> | > >> >> > | > | > I

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > didn't write it down.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then it said IE is loading new

> dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System

> | > >> >> > | > MFC42LOC.DLL

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > FILE; I.E.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > PROCESS ID FF872F29

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > TCP t

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this :

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This is

> | > >> >> > common

> | > >> >> > if

> | > >> >> > you

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > have updated

> | > >> >> > | > | >> O.E.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > lately. (because of firewall)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

> | > >> >> > SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab

> | > >> >> > under

> | > >> >> > the

> | > >> >> > | > Tools,

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Options

> | > >> >> > | > | >> menu.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

> | > >> >> > Files\Outlook

> | > >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

> | > >> >> > (Heximal)

> | > >> >> > | > 4294501077

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1094

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name : mail.optonline.net

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 25 (SMTP - Simple

> | > >> >> > Mail

> | > >> >> > Transfer

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:

> 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

> 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't

> fragment:

> | > >> >> > Set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More

> fragments:

> | > >> >> > Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

> Control

> | > >> >> > Protocol)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 167.206.5.250

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1094

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 25

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2040560

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =

> Congestion

> | > >> >> > Window

> | > >> >> > | > Reduce

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

> | > >> >> > | > | > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

> | > >> >> > Acknowledgment:

> | > >> >> > Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push: Not

> set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not

> set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45

> 00

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > .0.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03 A7

> CE

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0r.@....P......

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00 70

> 02

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...F....".....p.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 C5

> CE

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..E............

> | > >> >> > | > | >>

> | > >> >> > | > |

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >>

> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

> -

> | > >> >> > -

> | > >> >> > | > ----------

> | > >> >> > | > | >> --

> | > >> >> > | > | >>

> | > >> >> > | > |

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >>

> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

> -

> | > >> >> > -

> | > >> >> > | > ----------

> | > >> >> > | > | >> --

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > -----

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

> | > >> >> > | > SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

> | > >> >> > SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab

> | > >> >> > under

> | > >> >> > the

> | > >> >> > | > Tools,

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Options

> | > >> >> > | > | > menu.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

> | > >> >> > Files\Outlook

> | > >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

> | > >> >> > (Heximal)

> | > >> >> > | > 4294501077

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1101

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name : news.optonline.net

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 119 (NNTP -

> Network

> | > >> >> > News

> | > >> >> > | > Transfer

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:

> 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

> 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't

> fragment:

> | > >> >> > Set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More

> fragments:

> | > >> >> > Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

> Control

> | > >> >> > Protocol)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 209.197.15.254

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1101

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 119

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2582083

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =

> Congestion

> | > >> >> > Window

> | > >> >> > | > Reduce

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

> | > >> >> > | > | > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

> | > >> >> > Acknowledgment:

> | > >> >> > Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push: Not

> set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not

> set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

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>

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:e39giUSwIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:O6TJ5MPwIHA.4564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:OWeKt3OwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:%23k1oCnOwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | Windows XP is no more a POS than 98. I don't use Vista so I can't

> | > comment,

> | > | but I imagine it's the same thing, though I tend to think of Vista

> as

> | > XP's

> | > | ME. As for your hardware argument, that's total BS. Windows 98 lost

> it's

> | > | market share (dropped into the low single-digits) long before new

> | > hardware

> | > | stopped supporting it.

> | > |

> | > | People LIKE operating systems that just work. Windows XP is and

> always

> | > has

> | > | been more robust than 98. That's why IT people like it (go ahead,

> show

> | > me

> | > a

> | > | survey of IT's where 98 is compared favorably with other systems.)

> | > That's

> | > | why home users and SOHO users and everyone else like XP. As for

> | > security,

> | > | the only difference between now on XP and then on 98 is in the

> details.

> | >

> | > IT goes for what's EASY to use, what seems to be hot, and are just as

> | > easily mislead as any other party.

> | > Just as the home user THOUGHT they were getting a much more secure

> system,

> | > so did IT. Just as the home user doesn't want to spend much time

> learning

> | > how to use a computer, so does IT.

> | > The relational charcturistics between home and IT or other

> professionals

> | > runs parallel. Look on the one hand at IT trying to secure their

> systems,

> | > and the other; the web development department attempting to create new

> | > ways

> | > to garner more information via script and other... how smart is this.

> |

> | And your point is? What you describe is how it's always been, and in

> fact

> I

> | DO say that XP makes ALL of those tasks easier. And what makes you think

> | that IT or home users consider Security the main consideration when

> | purchasing a new system? If they know anything, they know it's a

> constant

> | battle no matter what system you're using, particularly if it's the OS

> that

> | has 80% of the market and makes such a nice big target. They rely upon

> MS

> | and third parties to protect their systems. If they are just as savvy in

> | other things, they'll never have to deal with malware. I certainly

> don't,

> | and only one or two recalcitrants amongst my clientelle have any serious

> | problems with their XP systems once I give them "the talk". On the other

> | hand, I have a few 9x clients left, and they are STILL calling me every

> few

> | months, asking if I can come and clean up some mess.

>

> Due to>>>> their improper use, same for XP. Because they can't take the

> time to learn what they are doing..

> I referenced what was occurring years ago {1992} its called Stupification

> [yeah that's mis-spelled.

Why should every car driver be a mechanic (I shudder to think...) Should

every eater also be a full time farmer? What chaos! Computers are

appliances, nothing more. They feed the needs of society, not the reverse.

They just need to work in the real world, and only the *heavily* restricted

Apple offerings do that better than Windows PCs.

> |

> | > The market you reference, showing usage reflects only that people CAN

> be

> | > convinced to use products which they actually know nothing about, just

> | > because its easier to use and happens to be widely accepted, and

> hardware

> | > support has NOT been provided in the previous OS, though much of it

> could

> | > have been by simple updates.... so it isn't necessarily a

> | > better/easier/just

> | > works OS, its a forced upgrade to get what you want or think you need,

> or

> | > does some more setup FOR YOU.

> |

> | Blah, blah. The consumer market tends to buy what's new when they look

> for

> | replacements after a few years of using the old one. That's capitalism

> for

> | you, not a reasonable comparison of OSes. Again, that's the way it's

> always

> | been, and Luddite is the term for people who refuse to participate.

> Wanna

> be

> | a Luddite, OK, but the above is a false argument if you're comparing the

> | OSes on their own merits. When it comes to a decision between XP and 98

> (and

> | I'm talking about when XP first came out): Hardware support and

> installation

> | is a snap. BSODs are rare, (yes, even in those early days.) After the

> | nightmares in Win9x and NT4 (even Win2K) up to that point in time, just

> | those two items probably sold half the units. The whole point is that

> for

> | most people, they can run Windows without any major problems, with about

> as

> | much learning involved as most people can stand, and the support is

> second

> | only to Apple. People who don't trust Windows use Apple, which has its

> own

> | multitude of drawbacks. Just who is going to support your Linux distros.

>

> DUUUUUUUHHHHH, the people who work with it, write the drivers, produce the

> applications,, THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD... seems that's like in here and on

> the XP and VISTA suport forums, only in those Linux groups you're likely

> discussing the issues with the actual programmer [error, okay wait minute

> I

> think I know what needs changed,,, okay try this and see if that corrects

> the issue *or* that particular chip has a bug in it, I can't fix it

> without

> breaking others, but here's a work around Bob worked out which addresses

> it].......

Have you ever learned the concept of scale? What happens when your distro

writer gets sick, or just sick of people, or even dead? I know, you'll say

that if the distro has "legs" it will develop a decent cadre of people

willing to help with it, but will there also be an ever widening circle of

happy *programmers* ready to do the same? Or will we pay them via PayPal?

The Linux concept may some day mature (though I personally think it has some

fatal flaws), but that day is still far off. Until then, Windows is it.

> SO where's your ludite comparison now... in the toilet... being one of the

> cattle has never been my strong suit.

Luddite is the perfect word. Your entire spiel brings to mind clippety-clop

music and horse & carriage, though nicely pastoral, scenes (I'm an American,

after all). Whether you "moo" or not is up to you.

> And YEEEEAAAAHHHHHH, they can *barely* run Windows, until they mess

> something up, or Microsoft breaks something in one of is updates [as

> usual]///// and then we try to help, like we like to do.

If you lived in the real world, you'd know that you just reaffirmed my

entire thesis. IME, once they learn the basics, MOST people don't need much

programming/hardware help with their Windows XP systems. Not from other

people. Certainly not as much as they need(ed) with Win9x, by orders of

magnitude. And, again by orders of magnitude, not nearly as much as any

other OS -- except Mac, because you pay through the nose for stability.

> | > If they actually knew much or had an actual desire to learn, they'd be

> | > using one of the Linux clones or other OS. Were it not for the DEEP

> | > relationship with manufacturers that Microsoft now has, Windows

> wouldn't

> | > be

> | > anywhere near the usage level that it is; between the two FORCING

> Windows

> | > usage

> |

> | Hey, you seem to know a lot. Why are you using Windows? You've got so

> many

> | other choices and you already KNOW that all versions of Windows are POS.

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

>

> Right, the usual "well you're running Windows" so STF, but I also ran

> Linux, Xenix, and several other OSs... but I suppose I'm supposed to be a

> mindless Windows junky, blindly following the masses, lauding the VIRTUES

> of

> the newest release or whatever is the supposed best version. Don't you see

> the comparison to what's occurring now,,, the resistence to move to VISTA,

> the spouting of the VALUE of XP as it draws near to support end, its

> already

> marked for death,,, how can you FAIL to see the comparison to 98 and what

> occurred... what then, spouting how VISTA is now the OS of choice,the

> super

> sophisicated, unfailingly superior,, or maybe the new Version 7,, yep...

> ride that train, or stand back and look at what is occurring

Hey, I just figured you'd have much better places to be. Where you could

help other users with your *preferred* OS/distro. Sheesh! My question was

serious: If Windows is such a POS in general, why do you devote so much time

to it? Now that I think about it, and from what you've said, I can't believe

you actually run it. You wouldn't be that, er, imprudent. But... then....

Vista will be passed over much like ME, and for much the same reasons,

though perhaps with a better numbers showing than ME, even in relative

terms. It's a mongrel. Can't really DO anything that XP can't, and what they

DID add that isn't just eye-candy, what they actually did at the system

level, they did very poorly, and I'm not talking about the kinds of things

you fix with a patch or even an SP. XP Professional can certainly handle

basic hardware developments for some time to come.

The next Windows system will, as I said, have to be an entirely new

paradigm. If it can't be that, we may as well stay with WinXP or switch

provider altogether. But any replacement for Microsoft will have to deal

with scale and capitalism* as well as Microsoft. Got any candidates?

(*Mass capitalism, where "easy" and "convenient" are the ruling paradigms,

not "cheap" and certainly not "quality". In fact, now that I think about it,

your notions are more than a little communistic, and while I won't debate

you capitalism vs. communism (we'd probably agree too much to make the

conversation worth it), we live in a raw, capitalistic world.)

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | As for security, the main issues involve IE and OE and if Win9x was

> | > | supported, they'd be getting just as many patches. As for other

> things

> | > that

> | > | needed fixing, 9x had just as many in relative terms.

> | > |

> | > | Look, ANY argument that compares OS security and DOESN'T take into

> | > account

> | > | market share, the "biggest bang for the buck" operational theory of

> | > malware

> | > | writers, etc., is pure sophistry.

> | > |

> | > | And you didn't deny my original premise, did you?

> | >

> | > It wouldn't do any good, but I can see you would be willing to defend

> your

> | > position, I knew you would ;-]..

> | >

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > |

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:%23l7eJaOwIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > | > QT can be used locally, or one can find codex to handle that

> format

> in

> | > | > some

> | > | > other player which IS being supported.

> | > | >

> | > | > Right, you DO say that constantly, and you also attempt to foster

> the

> | > | > notion that XP has become the world's favorite because its just so

> | > good

> | > | > and

> | > | > secure, BS, the reason for increased usage is that it is difficult

> to

> | > find

> | > | > computer's to support 9X, leaving the only viable Windows choice

> as

> | > XP,

> | > | > and

> | > | > VISTA is still such a PITA. Try not to buy into the garbage spewed

> by

> | > | > media

> | > | > and others... OR if you wish, we CAN discuss the POS XP which I

> DID

> | > spend

> | > | > considerable time testing and monitoring... how good its,,, look

> HERE:

> | > | >

> | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/en-us

> | > | >

> | > | > Think everything is fixed,,, guess again...

> | > | >

> | > | > --

> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > --

> | > | > _________

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > | >

> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > news:uKoNOPOwIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | I already told you, that machine has had EVERYTHING installed on

> it

> | > at

> | > | > one

> | > | > | time or another, and been through several ISPs and their

> | > | > branding/helpful

> | > | > | software, etc.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | But what should she do if she needs QT to play something? After

> all,

> | > | > what

> | > | > | you say about QT on Windows 98 could be said about Win98 itself.

> In

> | > | > fact,

> | > | > I

> | > | > | say it fairly regularly in places where people might actually

> | > listen.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | --

> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > |

> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | news:uzyZhGOwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > Apple's QuickTime for 98 has not been supported for some time.

> It

> | > is

> | > a

> | > | > | > security risk, and is severely outdated.

> | > | > | > Unless you have some special need to use it online, do not

> allow

> | > it

> | > | > access

> | > | > | > to the Internet.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Are you using AOL or some other ISP which installed this for

> you?

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

> | > | > | > news:fa1r3490ic78jqm9d8p4mkkvf84r0rcg82@4ax.com...

> | > | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | >Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate

> says

> it

> | > was

> | > | > | > critical that I

> | > | > | > | >had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and

> I

> | > don't

> | > | > even

> | > | > | > remember what

> | > | > | > | >it is. Ginny

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and *.mp4

> | > files,

> | > | > | > | which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will also

> get

> | > you

> | > | > | > | endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes (whether

> you

> | > have

> | > | > | > | iTunes or not).

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | --

> | > | > | > | Tim Slattery

> | > | > | > | MS MVP(Shell/User)

> | > | > | > | Slattery_T@bls.gov

> | > | > | > | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

May 29, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

No they are just in the Internet Options. Sorry. Gin

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483e04fb$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will uninstall that

> update(4.0sdk).

> The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if I uninstall it

I

> will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest idea what it came

> with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further investigation shows

that

> the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for

> Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is why I can't open

> it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what CD it would be

on

> to re-install.

>

> I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online. Gin

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to

> > consider:

> > First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If you're

> > not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post it

> > here. After uninstalling that, then get:

> >

> > MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer

> >

> > then this patch:

> > http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl

> >

> > --

> > Gary S. Terhune

> > MS-MVP Shell/User

> > http://www.grystmill.com

> >

> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.

> > > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5 KB.

> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > >> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.

> > >>

> > >> --

> > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >>

> > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on

> > >> > February

> > >> > 4,2002. I

> > >> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop.

> > >> > Ginny

> > >> >

> > >> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

> > >> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

> > >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> > >> >>

> > >> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

> > >> >>

> > >> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

> > >> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

> > >> >> originally installed.

> > >> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

> > >> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

> > >> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

> > >> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

> > >> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

> > >> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

> > >> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

> > >> >> on it.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> --

> > >> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

> > >> >> tongue

> > >> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> >

>

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

Sygate uses a database that started out blank. *Everything* you do for a

while will be a "change" to Sygate. If it's a program you recognize, then,

short of doing a lot more research, you have no choice but to trust that

it's not a malware DLL in disguise, and approve the update to Sygate's

database. Once you've finished training it, then when it says "change" it

will almost always actually mean "change". Then you are expected to be able

to remember recent changes to your system and update Sygate appropriately.

If it's a question you have about the program that is being cited, like you

did with QT, then you do as you did: ask about it, do some research. But try

to refrain from acting on our advice, or even stuff you read elsewhere using

Google, etc., too quickly, not even mine, in case there's an important (or

even minor) correction, contradiction or addendum to that advice in the near

future.

In this case, besides just what QT stands for, you should have learned

enough in this thread to ask yourself, "Just how old IS that QuickTime of

mine, anyway?" and "Maybe I should uninstall it and then install the latest

version if I find I need it later." So, in a way, Sygate is teaching you,

too.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>I don't mind training something. I simply don;t know if it is o.k. to allow

>every

> program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook Express. If

> it is

> harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it seems to

> me we

> spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong and

> putting in

> .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my Internet

> Explorer

> and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.

> It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate reporting to

> me that

> these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before Sygate, my

> programs

> were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are viewed

>> using a

>> QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and they

>> are

>> just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit), installed

>> by

>> the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet Options? On

>> what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my system as I

>> am

>> in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just uninstall

>> QT

>> in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go back and

>> reinstall it if you discover you need it.

>>

>> But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train that

>> firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process, uninstall it

>> and

>> either use something else or nothing at all. You already have pretty

>> decent

>> protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done

>> bugging

>> you, not by a LONG shot.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have Quick

>> >Time in

>> > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to my son

>> > and

>> > another

>> > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following (long

>> > list)

>> > of

>> > components to your system, do you want them to access the internet."

>> > Why

>> > would I want

>> > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer while I am

>> > trying to do

>> > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would like to

>> > uninstall

>> > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know what QT32

>> > is!!! A

>> > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank. Ginny

>> >

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of the bed

>> >> this

>> >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though I must

>> >> say

>> >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his feelings

>> >> about

>> >> XP.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl

>> >>

>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny

>> >> >

>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> > news:OtdhcSQwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> I've simply been answering your questions. You're the one acting

>> >> >> strangely

>> >> >> today. And you most certainly did make a judgment and

>> >> >> recommendations

>> >> >> about

>> >> >> what was installed without finding out the facts first, such as

>> >> >> what

>> >> >> was

>> >> >> really installed. That's what I called you on.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> No, I'd say you are the one on a tear, today. Note your

>> >> >> full-frontal

>> >> >> assault

>> >> >> on me in the other sub-thread on this topic.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:Ocmk67OwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > I didn't make a judgement, its what we generally do, double check

>> >> >> > each

>> >> >> > other...

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > And you're right, one does remove the actual entries and files if

>> >> >> > possible.

>> >> >> > But MSCONFIG is your normal choice to use for these things, for

>> >> >> > testing

>> >> >> > purposes. I USE autoruns or other tools... and I DID mention AOL

>> >> >> > as

>> >> >> > being

>> >> >> > a

>> >> >> > possible issue...

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Forget it Gary, seems I've touched a nerve today...

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > --

>> >> >> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> >> >> > --

>> >> >> > _________

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> >> > news:OpJp60OwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > | What gets me is that you would assume that some old version of

>> >> >> > QT

>> >> >> > was

>> >> >> > | installed and never updated. That you didn't take into account

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> > | possibility that it is an updated version or that the tray stub

>> >> >> > had

>> >> >> > been

>> >> >> > | disabled as is (or at least was) so often recommended in this

>> >> >> > group.

>> >> >> > (Same

>> >> >> > | for RP and any number of other such nuisances.) You failed in

>> >> >> > something

>> >> >> > you

>> >> >> > | usually do so well -- finding out the whole story before making

>> >> >> > any

>> >> >> > | judgments and issuing advice.

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> > | --

>> >> >> > | Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> > | http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> > | news:Oc4KUjOwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > | > So right, you check for the loader/tray stub with MSCONFIG,

>> >> >> > and

>> >> >> > disabled

>> >> >> > | > it

>> >> >> > | > if its not presently part of a current AOL ISP package. If it

>> >> >> > is,

>> >> >> > then

>> >> >> > a

>> >> >> > | > different course might be needed

>> >> >> > | > Same for Real Player.

>> >> >> > | >

>> >> >> > | > Also disable Check for Updates..

>> >> >> > | >

>> >> >> > | > --

>> >> >> > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> >> >> > | > --

>> >> >> > | > _________

>> >> >> > | >

>> >> >> > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> >> > | > news:OqfkOdOwIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > | > | Correct me if I'm wrong, but IME it only nags if you leave

>> >> >> > that

>> >> >> > thing

>> >> >> > in

>> >> >> > | > the

>> >> >> > | > | tray. We removed it.

>> >> >> > | > |

>> >> >> > | > | --

>> >> >> > | > | Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >> > | > |

>> >> >> > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> > | > | news:483d7e53$0$11627$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> >> > | > | > Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate

>> >> >> > says

>> >> >> > it

>> >> >> > was

>> >> >> > | > | > critical that I

>> >> >> > | > | > had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time,

>> >> >> > and I

>> >> >> > don't

>> >> >> > | > even

>> >> >> > | > | > remember what

>> >> >> > | > | > it is. Ginny

>> >> >> > | > | >

>> >> >> > | > | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> > | > | > news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> >> > | > | >> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I go

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > one

>> >> >> > of

>> >> >> > my

>> >> >> > | > OE

>> >> >> > | > | >> accounts,

>> >> >> > | > | > or

>> >> >> > | > | >> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't let

>> >> >> > me

>> >> >> > go

>> >> >> > there.

>> >> >> > I

>> >> >> > | > | >> will try to

>> >> >> > | > | >> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal thing

>> >> >> > since

>> >> >> > I

>> >> >> > used

>> >> >> > | > the

>> >> >> > | > | >> IE6sp1

>> >> >> > | > | >> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more than

>> >> >> > I

>> >> >> > posted

>> >> >> > | > last

>> >> >> > | > | >> night.

>> >> >> > | > | >> So in summary, my computer works but only if I let it

>> >> >> > add a

>> >> >> > LOT

>> >> >> > of

>> >> >> > | > | >> dlls.

>> >> >> > | > | > Ginny

>> >> >> > | > | >>

>> >> >> > | > | >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> > | > | >> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing

>> >> >> > it. I

>> >> >> > | > downloaded

>> >> >> > | > | > Sygate5.5.2577

>> >> >> > | > | >> > as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

>> >> >> > | > | >> > After installation it said IE was loading a new dll

>> >> >> > for

>> >> >> > Avast,

>> >> >> > so

>> >> >> > I

>> >> >> > | > | >> > said o.k. but

>> >> >> > | > | > I

>> >> >> > | > | >> > didn't write it down.

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Then it said IE is loading new

>> >> >> > dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System

>> >> >> > | > MFC42LOC.DLL

>> >> >> > | > | >> > FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

>> >> >> > | > | >> > FILE; I.E.

>> >> >> > | > | >> > PROCESS ID FF872F29

>> >> >> > | > | >> > (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

>> >> >> > | > | >> > TCP t

>> >> >> > | > | >> > (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this :

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This is

>> >> >> > common

>> >> >> > if

>> >> >> > you

>> >> >> > | > | >> > have updated

>> >> >> > | > | >> O.E.

>> >> >> > | > | >> > lately. (because of firewall)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

>> >> >> > SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab

>> >> >> > under

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> > | > Tools,

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Options

>> >> >> > | > | >> menu.

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

>> >> >> > Files\Outlook

>> >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

>> >> >> > (Heximal)

>> >> >> > | > 4294501077

>> >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1094

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name : mail.optonline.net

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 25 (SMTP - Simple

>> >> >> > Mail

>> >> >> > Transfer

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

>> >> >> > 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't fragment:

>> >> >> > Set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More fragments:

>> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

>> >> >> > Control

>> >> >> > Protocol)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 167.206.5.250

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1094

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 25

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2040560

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... = Congestion

>> >> >> > Window

>> >> >> > | > Reduce

>> >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

>> >> >> > | > | > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo:

>> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

>> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

>> >> >> > Acknowledgment:

>> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push: Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset: Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45

>> >> >> > 00

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> > .0.

>> >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03 A7

>> >> >> > CE

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .0r.@....P......

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00 70

>> >> >> > 02

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> > | > | >> > ...F....".....p.

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 C5

>> >> >> > CE

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> > | > | >> > ..E............

>> >> >> > | > | >>

>> >> >> > | > |

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> >> >> > -

>> >> >> > | > ----------

>> >> >> > | > | >> --

>> >> >> > | > | >>

>> >> >> > | > |

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> >> >> > -

>> >> >> > | > ----------

>> >> >> > | > | >> --

>> >> >> > | > | >> > -----

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

>> >> >> > | > SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

>> >> >> > SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab

>> >> >> > under

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> > | > Tools,

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Options

>> >> >> > | > | > menu.

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

>> >> >> > Files\Outlook

>> >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

>> >> >> > (Heximal)

>> >> >> > | > 4294501077

>> >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1101

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name : news.optonline.net

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 119 (NNTP -

>> >> >> > Network

>> >> >> > News

>> >> >> > | > Transfer

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

>> >> >> > 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't fragment:

>> >> >> > Set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More fragments:

>> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

>> >> >> > Control

>> >> >> > Protocol)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 209.197.15.254

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1101

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 119

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2582083

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... = Congestion

>> >> >> > Window

>> >> >> > | > Reduce

>> >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

>> >> >> > | > | > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo:

>> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

>> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

>> >> >> > Acknowledgment:

>> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push: Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset: Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not

>> >> >> > set

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45

>> >> >> > 00

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> > .0.

>> >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03 D1

>> >> >> > C5

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .0..@....T......

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00 70

>> >> >> > 02

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> > | > | >> > ...M.w.'fC....p.

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 6F

>> >> >> > 2F

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> > | > | >> > .S...........

>> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> > | > | >>

>> >> >> > | > | >

>> >> >> > | > |

>> >> >> > | >

>> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

I want to be clear before I do this. When you say "write down any entry that includes

MSXML and post it here, and uninstall it"......please tell me where am I getting this

"entry" from? Ginny

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to

> consider:

> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If you're

> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post it

> here. After uninstalling that, then get:

>

> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer

>

> then this patch:

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.

> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5 KB.

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>

> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on

> >> > February

> >> > 4,2002. I

> >> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop.

> >> > Ginny

> >> >

> >> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

> >> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

> >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

> >> >>

> >> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

> >> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

> >> >> originally installed.

> >> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

> >> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

> >> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

> >> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

> >> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

> >> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

> >> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

> >> >> on it.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

> >> >> tongue

> >> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

Add/Remove programs allowed me to remove the program Quick Time came with ....and it

strongly said I should not try to delete extensions (which is the only other option).

There is no direct Quick Time Remove in any way. It says it is missing 2 .exe files

and says I should uninstall and re-install Quick Time. Do I do the uninstall with the

CD?

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:eVflMSTwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Sygate uses a database that started out blank. *Everything* you do for a

> while will be a "change" to Sygate. If it's a program you recognize, then,

> short of doing a lot more research, you have no choice but to trust that

> it's not a malware DLL in disguise, and approve the update to Sygate's

> database. Once you've finished training it, then when it says "change" it

> will almost always actually mean "change". Then you are expected to be able

> to remember recent changes to your system and update Sygate appropriately.

>

> If it's a question you have about the program that is being cited, like you

> did with QT, then you do as you did: ask about it, do some research. But try

> to refrain from acting on our advice, or even stuff you read elsewhere using

> Google, etc., too quickly, not even mine, in case there's an important (or

> even minor) correction, contradiction or addendum to that advice in the near

> future.

>

> In this case, besides just what QT stands for, you should have learned

> enough in this thread to ask yourself, "Just how old IS that QuickTime of

> mine, anyway?" and "Maybe I should uninstall it and then install the latest

> version if I find I need it later." So, in a way, Sygate is teaching you,

> too.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >I don't mind training something. I simply don;t know if it is o.k. to allow

> >every

> > program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook Express. If

> > it is

> > harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it seems to

> > me we

> > spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong and

> > putting in

> > .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my Internet

> > Explorer

> > and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.

> > It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate reporting to

> > me that

> > these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before Sygate, my

> > programs

> > were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are viewed

> >> using a

> >> QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and they

> >> are

> >> just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit), installed

> >> by

> >> the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet Options? On

> >> what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my system as I

> >> am

> >> in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just uninstall

> >> QT

> >> in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go back and

> >> reinstall it if you discover you need it.

> >>

> >> But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train that

> >> firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process, uninstall it

> >> and

> >> either use something else or nothing at all. You already have pretty

> >> decent

> >> protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done

> >> bugging

> >> you, not by a LONG shot.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>

> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have Quick

> >> >Time in

> >> > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to my son

> >> > and

> >> > another

> >> > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following (long

> >> > list)

> >> > of

> >> > components to your system, do you want them to access the internet."

> >> > Why

> >> > would I want

> >> > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer while I am

> >> > trying to do

> >> > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would like to

> >> > uninstall

> >> > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know what QT32

> >> > is!!! A

> >> > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank. Ginny

> >> >

> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of the bed

> >> >> this

> >> >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though I must

> >> >> say

> >> >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his feelings

> >> >> about

> >> >> XP.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >> >>

> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> >> > news:OtdhcSQwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >> I've simply been answering your questions. You're the one acting

> >> >> >> strangely

> >> >> >> today. And you most certainly did make a judgment and

> >> >> >> recommendations

> >> >> >> about

> >> >> >> what was installed without finding out the facts first, such as

> >> >> >> what

> >> >> >> was

> >> >> >> really installed. That's what I called you on.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> No, I'd say you are the one on a tear, today. Note your

> >> >> >> full-frontal

> >> >> >> assault

> >> >> >> on me in the other sub-thread on this topic.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:Ocmk67OwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >> > I didn't make a judgement, its what we generally do, double check

> >> >> >> > each

> >> >> >> > other...

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > And you're right, one does remove the actual entries and files if

> >> >> >> > possible.

> >> >> >> > But MSCONFIG is your normal choice to use for these things, for

> >> >> >> > testing

> >> >> >> > purposes. I USE autoruns or other tools... and I DID mention AOL

> >> >> >> > as

> >> >> >> > being

> >> >> >> > a

> >> >> >> > possible issue...

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Forget it Gary, seems I've touched a nerve today...

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > --

> >> >> >> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> >> >> >> > --

> >> >> >> > _________

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> >> >> > news:OpJp60OwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >> > | What gets me is that you would assume that some old version of

> >> >> >> > QT

> >> >> >> > was

> >> >> >> > | installed and never updated. That you didn't take into account

> >> >> >> > the

> >> >> >> > | possibility that it is an updated version or that the tray stub

> >> >> >> > had

> >> >> >> > been

> >> >> >> > | disabled as is (or at least was) so often recommended in this

> >> >> >> > group.

> >> >> >> > (Same

> >> >> >> > | for RP and any number of other such nuisances.) You failed in

> >> >> >> > something

> >> >> >> > you

> >> >> >> > | usually do so well -- finding out the whole story before making

> >> >> >> > any

> >> >> >> > | judgments and issuing advice.

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >> > | --

> >> >> >> > | Gary S. Terhune

> >> >> >> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> >> >> > | http://www.grystmill.com

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >> > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >> >> >> > | news:Oc4KUjOwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >> > | > So right, you check for the loader/tray stub with MSCONFIG,

> >> >> >> > and

> >> >> >> > disabled

> >> >> >> > | > it

> >> >> >> > | > if its not presently part of a current AOL ISP package. If it

> >> >> >> > is,

> >> >> >> > then

> >> >> >> > a

> >> >> >> > | > different course might be needed

> >> >> >> > | > Same for Real Player.

> >> >> >> > | >

> >> >> >> > | > Also disable Check for Updates..

> >> >> >> > | >

> >> >> >> > | > --

> >> >> >> > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> >> >> >> > | > --

> >> >> >> > | > _________

> >> >> >> > | >

> >> >> >> > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> >> >> > | > news:OqfkOdOwIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >> > | > | Correct me if I'm wrong, but IME it only nags if you leave

> >> >> >> > that

> >> >> >> > thing

> >> >> >> > in

> >> >> >> > | > the

> >> >> >> > | > | tray. We removed it.

> >> >> >> > | > |

> >> >> >> > | > | --

> >> >> >> > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> >> >> >> > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> >> >> > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> >> >> >> > | > |

> >> >> >> > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> >> >> > | > | news:483d7e53$0$11627$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >> >> > | > | > Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate

> >> >> >> > says

> >> >> >> > it

> >> >> >> > was

> >> >> >> > | > | > critical that I

> >> >> >> > | > | > had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time,

> >> >> >> > and I

> >> >> >> > don't

> >> >> >> > | > even

> >> >> >> > | > | > remember what

> >> >> >> > | > | > it is. Ginny

> >> >> >> > | > | >

> >> >> >> > | > | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> >> >> > | > | > news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >> >> > | > | >> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I go

> >> >> >> > to

> >> >> >> > one

> >> >> >> > of

> >> >> >> > my

> >> >> >> > | > OE

> >> >> >> > | > | >> accounts,

> >> >> >> > | > | > or

> >> >> >> > | > | >> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't let

> >> >> >> > me

> >> >> >> > go

> >> >> >> > there.

> >> >> >> > I

> >> >> >> > | > | >> will try to

> >> >> >> > | > | >> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal thing

> >> >> >> > since

> >> >> >> > I

> >> >> >> > used

> >> >> >> > | > the

> >> >> >> > | > | >> IE6sp1

> >> >> >> > | > | >> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more than

> >> >> >> > I

> >> >> >> > posted

> >> >> >> > | > last

> >> >> >> > | > | >> night.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> So in summary, my computer works but only if I let it

> >> >> >> > add a

> >> >> >> > LOT

> >> >> >> > of

> >> >> >> > | > | >> dlls.

> >> >> >> > | > | > Ginny

> >> >> >> > | > | >>

> >> >> >> > | > | >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> >> >> > | > | >> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing

> >> >> >> > it. I

> >> >> >> > | > downloaded

> >> >> >> > | > | > Sygate5.5.2577

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > After installation it said IE was loading a new dll

> >> >> >> > for

> >> >> >> > Avast,

> >> >> >> > so

> >> >> >> > I

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > said o.k. but

> >> >> >> > | > | > I

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > didn't write it down.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Then it said IE is loading new

> >> >> >> > dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System

> >> >> >> > | > MFC42LOC.DLL

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > FILE; I.E.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > PROCESS ID FF872F29

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > TCP t

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this :

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This is

> >> >> >> > common

> >> >> >> > if

> >> >> >> > you

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > have updated

> >> >> >> > | > | >> O.E.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > lately. (because of firewall)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

> >> >> >> > SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab

> >> >> >> > under

> >> >> >> > the

> >> >> >> > | > Tools,

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Options

> >> >> >> > | > | >> menu.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

> >> >> >> > Files\Outlook

> >> >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

> >> >> >> > (Heximal)

> >> >> >> > | > 4294501077

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1094

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name : mail.optonline.net

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 25 (SMTP - Simple

> >> >> >> > Mail

> >> >> >> > Transfer

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

> >> >> >> > 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't fragment:

> >> >> >> > Set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More fragments:

> >> >> >> > Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

> >> >> >> > Control

> >> >> >> > Protocol)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 167.206.5.250

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1094

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 25

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2040560

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... = Congestion

> >> >> >> > Window

> >> >> >> > | > Reduce

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

> >> >> >> > | > | > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo:

> >> >> >> > Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

> >> >> >> > Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

> >> >> >> > Acknowledgment:

> >> >> >> > Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push: Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset: Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45

> >> >> >> > 00

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >> > .0.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03 A7

> >> >> >> > CE

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .0r.@....P......

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00 70

> >> >> >> > 02

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ...F....".....p.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 C5

> >> >> >> > CE

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ..E............

> >> >> >> > | > | >>

> >> >> >> > | > |

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >>

>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >> >> >> > -

> >> >> >> > | > ----------

> >> >> >> > | > | >> --

> >> >> >> > | > | >>

> >> >> >> > | > |

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >>

>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >> >> >> > -

> >> >> >> > | > ----------

> >> >> >> > | > | >> --

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > -----

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

> >> >> >> > | > SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

> >> >> >> > SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab

> >> >> >> > under

> >> >> >> > the

> >> >> >> > | > Tools,

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Options

> >> >> >> > | > | > menu.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Version : 6.00.2800.1123

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

> >> >> >> > Files\Outlook

> >> >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

> >> >> >> > (Heximal)

> >> >> >> > | > 4294501077

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1101

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name : news.optonline.net

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 119 (NNTP -

> >> >> >> > Network

> >> >> >> > News

> >> >> >> > | > Transfer

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

> >> >> >> > 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't fragment:

> >> >> >> > Set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More fragments:

> >> >> >> > Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

> >> >> >> > Control

> >> >> >> > Protocol)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 209.197.15.254

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1101

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 119

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2582083

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... = Congestion

> >> >> >> > Window

> >> >> >> > | > Reduce

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

> >> >> >> > | > | > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... = ECN-Echo:

> >> >> >> > Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

> >> >> >> > Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

> >> >> >> > Acknowledgment:

> >> >> >> > Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push: Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset: Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn: Set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin: Not

> >> >> >> > set

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45

> >> >> >> > 00

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >> > .0.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03 D1

> >> >> >> > C5

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .0..@....T......

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00 70

> >> >> >> > 02

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ...M.w.'fC....p.

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 6F

> >> >> >> > 2F

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .S...........

> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

> >> >> >> > | > | >>

> >> >> >> > | > | >

> >> >> >> > | > |

> >> >> >> > | >

> >> >> >> > |

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 29, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Then you DO have that very old version MEB was talking about. You should

uninstall it, then hope your banking site doesn't require it. Might just

look different but still work. (I thought I had a link to the last version

that worked with Win98, but I'll have to look deeper.)

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483e04fb$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will

> uninstall that

> update(4.0sdk).

> The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if I

> uninstall it I

> will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest idea what

> it came

> with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further investigation

> shows that

> the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for

> Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is why I

> can't open

> it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what CD it

> would be on

> to re-install.

>

> I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online. Gin

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to

>> consider:

>> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If

>> you're

>> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post it

>> here. After uninstalling that, then get:

>>

>> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer

>>

>> then this patch:

>> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.

>> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5 KB.

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >>

>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on

>> >> > February

>> >> > 4,2002. I

>> >> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop.

>> >> > Ginny

>> >> >

>> >> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from,

>> >> >> > and

>> >> >>

>> >> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

>> >> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

>> >> >> originally installed.

>> >> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

>> >> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

>> >> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

>> >> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

>> >> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

>> >> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

>> >> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

>> >> >> on it.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

>> >> >> tongue

>> >> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

One of my posts has 'gone missing' and I'm sitting here unclear about how to do this

service patch . I downloaded msxml4-KB927978-enu.exe (file version 1)....., (I typed

in tinyurl.com/y6a2sl and it redirected me to this MSXML 4.0 Service Pack2

(Microsoft XML Core Services) - I think that is what I downloaded. Is that the first

one or the second one??

Also....What am I supposed to post here and uninstall from my system??? I am

confused. Thanks. Gin

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:eVflMSTwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Sygate uses a database that started out blank. *Everything* you do for a

> while will be a "change" to Sygate. If it's a program you recognize, then,

> short of doing a lot more research, you have no choice but to trust that

> it's not a malware DLL in disguise, and approve the update to Sygate's

> database. Once you've finished training it, then when it says "change" it

> will almost always actually mean "change". Then you are expected to be able

> to remember recent changes to your system and update Sygate appropriately.

>

> If it's a question you have about the program that is being cited, like you

> did with QT, then you do as you did: ask about it, do some research. But try

> to refrain from acting on our advice, or even stuff you read elsewhere using

> Google, etc., too quickly, not even mine, in case there's an important (or

> even minor) correction, contradiction or addendum to that advice in the near

> future.

>

> In this case, besides just what QT stands for, you should have learned

> enough in this thread to ask yourself, "Just how old IS that QuickTime of

> mine, anyway?" and "Maybe I should uninstall it and then install the latest

> version if I find I need it later." So, in a way, Sygate is teaching you,

> too.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >I don't mind training something. I simply don;t know if it is o.k. to allow

> >every

> > program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook Express. If

> > it is

> > harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it seems to

> > me we

> > spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong and

> > putting in

> > .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my Internet

> > Explorer

> > and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.

> > It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate reporting to

> > me that

> > these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before Sygate, my

> > programs

> > were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are viewed

> >> using a

> >> QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and they

> >> are

> >> just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit), installed

> >> by

> >> the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet Options? On

> >> what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my system as I

> >> am

> >> in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just uninstall

> >> QT

> >> in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go back and

> >> reinstall it if you discover you need it.

> >>

> >> But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train that

> >> firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process, uninstall it

> >> and

> >> either use something else or nothing at all. You already have pretty

> >> decent

> >> protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done

> >> bugging

> >> you, not by a LONG shot.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>

> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have Quick

> >> >Time in

> >> > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to my son

> >> > and

> >> > another

> >> > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following (long

> >> > list)

> >> > of

> >> > components to your system, do you want them to access the internet."

> >> > Why

> >> > would I want

> >> > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer while I am

> >> > trying to do

> >> > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would like to

> >> > uninstall

> >> > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know what QT32

> >> > is!!! A

> >> > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank. Ginny

> >> >

> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of the bed

> >> >> this

> >> >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though I must

> >> >> say

> >> >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his feelings

> >> >> about

> >> >> XP.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >> >>

> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny

> >> >> >

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:uorQnxSwIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Ah ,YOU brought capitalism as an issue, I see NO WHERE in my posts that

> indicates that.

Capitalism = Real World. A place where you, apparently, don't wish to

reside.

> WHY would I post that in this group???

> I spent more than a month in this group attempting to discuss and explain

> the XP hard drive issues with 9X,,, had many of the posters put material

> into the discussion which they had no idea of, *discredit [or rather

> attempt

> to do so] ACTAUL functions IN XP*, and the final outcome came to "NOT"

> checking Smart statistics because the drive APPEARED to be clean... who

> cares if its not realistic, who cares if anything had been re-allocated,

> who

> cares....

Why would you discuss XP issues in THIS group in any detail? And since when

DON'T long threads of that nature get filled with stupid contributions? And

who DOES care, anyway?

> Now if you can explain to me why I would do this again, post it...

>

> As for daily use: that's funny, not only daily use, but FAR more....

> There is no bias on my part, but there certainly is on yours, I HAVE run

> other non-Microsoft OSs.... and did the same thing in those OSs, testing,

> defining, clarifying,,, and using. Guess what, I intend to do it again...

Have fun.

> Are we done yet?

Don't know, yet.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uMZL4JQwIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | I didn't say testing and monitoring wouldn't tell you a lot, but if you

> | haven't actually used it day in and day out, doing all the things that

> | people do with their desktop PCs, you have nothing but nerdy, yes.

> |

> | So what's your results. In particular, discuss the comparative features

> and

> | why you seem to think that all the extra functionality in XP is plain

> | worthless, or could just as easily be done in 9x. Synopsize and hit the

> high

> | points, please. I'm not up to reams of data.

> |

> | I gotta tell you, your bias is showing all over the place, and I ALWAYS

> | remember that statistics can be easily misconstrued and/or made to lie.

> |

> | And if your real gripe is capitalism in general, then let's leave off

> this

> | discussion, OK?

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:evO68%23OwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > That's usage monitoring. file monitoring, network monitoring, Internet

> | > monitoring, disk monitoring, service monitoring, device monitoring,

> | > etc.,,,

> | > ah, that's far beyond simple usage. Seems that would give me a bit

> more

> | > knowledge,, but then that would be relative and nerdy wouldn't it..

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:Oyaln3OwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | Testing and monitoring... But not really using? ROTFLMAO!!! That

> leaves

> | > you

> | > | well prepared for nothing more than just so much nerdy babble.

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > |

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:%23l7eJaOwIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > | > QT can be used locally, or one can find codex to handle that

> format

> in

> | > | > some

> | > | > other player which IS being supported.

> | > | >

> | > | > Right, you DO say that constantly, and you also attempt to foster

> the

> | > | > notion that XP has become the world's favorite because its just so

> | > good

> | > | > and

> | > | > secure, BS, the reason for increased usage is that it is difficult

> to

> | > find

> | > | > computer's to support 9X, leaving the only viable Windows choice

> as

> | > XP,

> | > | > and

> | > | > VISTA is still such a PITA. Try not to buy into the garbage spewed

> by

> | > | > media

> | > | > and others... OR if you wish, we CAN discuss the POS XP which I

> DID

> | > spend

> | > | > considerable time testing and monitoring... how good its,,, look

> HERE:

> | > | >

> | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/en-us

> | > | >

> | > | > Think everything is fixed,,, guess again...

> | > | >

> | > | > --

> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > --

> | > | > _________

> | > | >

> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > news:uKoNOPOwIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | I already told you, that machine has had EVERYTHING installed on

> it

> | > at

> | > | > one

> | > | > | time or another, and been through several ISPs and their

> | > | > branding/helpful

> | > | > | software, etc.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | But what should she do if she needs QT to play something? After

> all,

> | >

> | > | > what

> | > | > | you say about QT on Windows 98 could be said about Win98 itself.

> In

> | > | > fact,

> | > | > I

> | > | > | say it fairly regularly in places where people might actually

> | > listen.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | --

> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > |

> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | news:uzyZhGOwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > Apple's QuickTime for 98 has not been supported for some time.

> It

> | > is

> | > a

> | > | > | > security risk, and is severely outdated.

> | > | > | > Unless you have some special need to use it online, do not

> allow

> | > it

> | > | > access

> | > | > | > to the Internet.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Are you using AOL or some other ISP which installed this for

> you?

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

> | > | > | > news:fa1r3490ic78jqm9d8p4mkkvf84r0rcg82@4ax.com...

> | > | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | >Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate

> says

> it

> | > was

> | > | > | > critical that I

> | > | > | > | >had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time, and

> I

> | > don't

> | > | > even

> | > | > | > remember what

> | > | > | > | >it is. Ginny

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and *.mp4

> | > files,

> | > | > | > | which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will also

> get

> | > you

> | > | > | > | endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes (whether

> you

> | > have

> | > | > | > | iTunes or not).

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | --

> | > | > | > | Tim Slattery

> | > | > | > | MS MVP(Shell/User)

> | > | > | > | Slattery_T@bls.gov

> | > | > | > | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

> | > | > | >

> | > | > |

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> |

>

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

Don't reinstall it. If you need it for anything, there are much more recent

versions that will work on Win98.

As for your camera, I don't understand. What application is it that you use?

What's the name? Did the CD come with the camera? Does it possibly just also

happen to have QT the CD? Can you install the viewer separately?

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483e12de$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> That's what I thought! But when I went to 'Chase', Sygate told me that a

> whole list

> of about 10 .dlls HAD BEEN INSTALLED by Quick Time and asked if I want to

> allow them

> through the firewall, online. I said 'no' and got a message that the page

> was

> unavailable. I had to do my banking...so the next time I said yes and did

> my banking.

> I guess I just have to assume that Sygate knows what it's doing

>

> Then I went into a clean boot, went to add/remove programs and tried to

> uninstall

> Quick Time (it recommends uninstalling and reinstalling.) When I clicked

> on it to

> uninstall, It said that "the program it came with would be uninstalled'.

> Since I

> didn't know which program, I backed out. I looked through my CD's and

> found the

> program that downloads my pictures from my digital camera to the computer

> came with

> Quick Time. But from there I store my pictures on my C drive. So I will

> not lose any

> pictures by removing it and reinstalling it, so I will go ahead and do

> that.

> If you have any other ideas about the dlls and Sygagte, let me know

> Ginny

>

> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OiXKs2SwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Not to take Gary's place, but are these actually being changed or are

>> they

>> just being called for?

>> DLLs are dynamic link libraries which generally are NOT changed that

>> much

>> but by updates applied by YOU. If you're finished updating then they

>> should

>> be stable.

>>

>> --

>> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> --

>> _________

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> | I don't mind training something. I simply don;t know if it is o.k. to

>> allow every

>> | program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook Express.

>> If

>> it is

>> | harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it seems

>> to

>> me we

>> | spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong and

>> putting in

>> | .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my

>> Internet

>> Explorer

>> | and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.

>> | It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate

>> reporting

>> to me that

>> | these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before Sygate,

>> my

>> programs

>> | were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?

>> |

>> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> | news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> | > My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are viewed

>> using a

>> | > QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and

>> they

>> are

>> | > just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit),

>> installed

>> by

>> | > the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet

>> Options?

>> On

>> | > what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my system

>> as

>> I am

>> | > in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just

>> uninstall

>> QT

>> | > in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go back

>> and

>> | > reinstall it if you discover you need it.

>> | >

>> | > But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train that

>> | > firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process, uninstall

>> it

>> and

>> | > either use something else or nothing at all. You already have pretty

>> decent

>> | > protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done

>> bugging

>> | > you, not by a LONG shot.

>> | >

>> | > --

>> | > Gary S. Terhune

>> | > MS-MVP Shell/User

>> | > http://www.grystmill.com

>> | >

>> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> | > news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> | > >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have

>> Quick

>> | > >Time in

>> | > > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to my

>> son

>> and

>> | > > another

>> | > > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following (long

>> list)

>> | > > of

>> | > > components to your system, do you want them to access the

>> internet."

>> Why

>> | > > would I want

>> | > > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer while I

>> am

>> | > > trying to do

>> | > > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would

>> like

>> to

>> | > > uninstall

>> | > > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know what

>> QT32

>> | > > is!!! A

>> | > > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank.

>> Ginny

>> | > >

>> | > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> | > > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> | > >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of the

>> bed

>> | > >> this

>> | > >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though I

>> must

>> say

>> | > >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his

>> feelings

>> | > >> about

>> | > >> XP.

>> | > >>

>> | > >> --

>> | > >> Gary S. Terhune

>> | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> | > >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> | > >>

>> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> | > >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> | > >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny

>> | > >> >

>> | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> | > >> > news:OtdhcSQwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> | > >> >> I've simply been answering your questions. You're the one

>> acting

>> | > >> >> strangely

>> | > >> >> today. And you most certainly did make a judgment and

>> recommendations

>> | > >> >> about

>> | > >> >> what was installed without finding out the facts first, such as

>> what

>> | > >> >> was

>> | > >> >> really installed. That's what I called you on.

>> | > >> >>

>> | > >> >> No, I'd say you are the one on a tear, today. Note your

>> full-frontal

>> | > >> >> assault

>> | > >> >> on me in the other sub-thread on this topic.

>> | > >> >>

>> | > >> >> --

>> | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> | > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> | > >> >>

>> | > >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> | > >> >> news:Ocmk67OwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> | > >> >> > I didn't make a judgement, its what we generally do, double

>> check

>> | > >> >> > each

>> | > >> >> > other...

>> | > >> >> >

>> | > >> >> > And you're right, one does remove the actual entries and

>> files

>> if

>> | > >> >> > possible.

>> | > >> >> > But MSCONFIG is your normal choice to use for these things,

>> for

>> | > >> >> > testing

>> | > >> >> > purposes. I USE autoruns or other tools... and I DID mention

>> AOL

>> as

>> | > >> >> > being

>> | > >> >> > a

>> | > >> >> > possible issue...

>> | > >> >> >

>> | > >> >> > Forget it Gary, seems I've touched a nerve today...

>> | > >> >> >

>> | > >> >> > --

>> | > >> >> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> | > >> >> > --

>> | > >> >> > _________

>> | > >> >> >

>> | > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> | > >> >> > news:OpJp60OwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> | > >> >> > | What gets me is that you would assume that some old version

>> of

>> QT

>> | > >> >> > was

>> | > >> >> > | installed and never updated. That you didn't take into

>> account

>> the

>> | > >> >> > | possibility that it is an updated version or that the tray

>> stub

>> | > >> >> > had

>> | > >> >> > been

>> | > >> >> > | disabled as is (or at least was) so often recommended in

>> this

>> | > >> >> > group.

>> | > >> >> > (Same

>> | > >> >> > | for RP and any number of other such nuisances.) You failed

>> in

>> | > >> >> > something

>> | > >> >> > you

>> | > >> >> > | usually do so well -- finding out the whole story before

>> making

>> | > >> >> > any

>> | > >> >> > | judgments and issuing advice.

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >> > | --

>> | > >> >> > | Gary S. Terhune

>> | > >> >> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> | > >> >> > | http://www.grystmill.com

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >> > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> | > >> >> > | news:Oc4KUjOwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> | > >> >> > | > So right, you check for the loader/tray stub with

>> MSCONFIG,

>> and

>> | > >> >> > disabled

>> | > >> >> > | > it

>> | > >> >> > | > if its not presently part of a current AOL ISP package.

>> If

>> it

>> | > >> >> > is,

>> | > >> >> > then

>> | > >> >> > a

>> | > >> >> > | > different course might be needed

>> | > >> >> > | > Same for Real Player.

>> | > >> >> > | >

>> | > >> >> > | > Also disable Check for Updates..

>> | > >> >> > | >

>> | > >> >> > | > --

>> | > >> >> > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> | > >> >> > | > --

>> | > >> >> > | > _________

>> | > >> >> > | >

>> | > >> >> > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> | > >> >> > | > news:OqfkOdOwIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> | > >> >> > | > | Correct me if I'm wrong, but IME it only nags if you

>> leave

>> | > >> >> > that

>> | > >> >> > thing

>> | > >> >> > in

>> | > >> >> > | > the

>> | > >> >> > | > | tray. We removed it.

>> | > >> >> > | > |

>> | > >> >> > | > | --

>> | > >> >> > | > | Gary S. Terhune

>> | > >> >> > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> | > >> >> > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

>> | > >> >> > | > |

>> | > >> >> > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> | > >> >> > | > | news:483d7e53$0$11627$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> | > >> >> > | > | > Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is?

>> Sygate

>> says

>> | > >> >> > it

>> | > >> >> > was

>> | > >> >> > | > | > critical that I

>> | > >> >> > | > | > had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick

>> Time,

>> and I

>> | > >> >> > don't

>> | > >> >> > | > even

>> | > >> >> > | > | > remember what

>> | > >> >> > | > | > it is. Ginny

>> | > >> >> > | > | >

>> | > >> >> > | > | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> | > >> >> > | > | > news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I

>> go

>> to

>> | > >> >> > one

>> | > >> >> > of

>> | > >> >> > my

>> | > >> >> > | > OE

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> accounts,

>> | > >> >> > | > | > or

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't

>> let

>> me

>> | > >> >> > go

>> | > >> >> > there.

>> | > >> >> > I

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> will try to

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal

>> thing

>> | > >> >> > since

>> | > >> >> > I

>> | > >> >> > used

>> | > >> >> > | > the

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> IE6sp1

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more

>> than I

>> | > >> >> > posted

>> | > >> >> > | > last

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> night.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> So in summary, my computer works but only if I

>> let

>> it

>> | > >> >> > add a

>> | > >> >> > LOT

>> | > >> >> > of

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> dlls.

>> | > >> >> > | > | > Ginny

>> | > >> >> > | > | >>

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of

>> removing

>> it. I

>> | > >> >> > | > downloaded

>> | > >> >> > | > | > Sygate5.5.2577

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > After installation it said IE was loading a new

>> dll

>> for

>> | > >> >> > Avast,

>> | > >> >> > so

>> | > >> >> > I

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > said o.k. but

>> | > >> >> > | > | > I

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > didn't write it down.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then it said IE is loading new

>> dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System

>> | > >> >> > | > MFC42LOC.DLL

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > FILE; I.E.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > PROCESS ID FF872F29

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > TCP t

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this

>> :

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This

>> is

>> | > >> >> > common

>> | > >> >> > if

>> | > >> >> > you

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > have updated

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> O.E.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > lately. (because of firewall)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

>> | > >> >> > SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security

>> tab

>> | > >> >> > under

>> | > >> >> > the

>> | > >> >> > | > Tools,

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Options

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> menu.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Version :

>> 6.00.2800.1123

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

>> | > >> >> > Files\Outlook

>> | > >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

>> | > >> >> > (Heximal)

>> | > >> >> > | > 4294501077

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1094

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name :

>> mail.optonline.net

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 25 (SMTP -

>> Simple

>> | > >> >> > Mail

>> | > >> >> > Transfer

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:

>> 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

>> 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't

>> fragment:

>> | > >> >> > Set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More

>> fragments:

>> | > >> >> > Not

>> | > >> >> > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

>> Control

>> | > >> >> > Protocol)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 167.206.5.250

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1094

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 25

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2040560

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =

>> Congestion

>> | > >> >> > Window

>> | > >> >> > | > Reduce

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

>> | > >> >> > | > | > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... =

>> ECN-Echo:

>> Not

>> | > >> >> > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... =

>> Urgent:

>> Not

>> | > >> >> > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

>> | > >> >> > Acknowledgment:

>> | > >> >> > Not

>> | > >> >> > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push:

>> Not

>> set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset:

>> Not

>> | > >> >> > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn:

>> Set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin:

>> Not

>> set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00

>> 45

>> 00

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >> > .0.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03

>> A7

>> CE

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0r.@....P......

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00

>> 70

>> 02

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...F....".....p.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02

>> C5

>> CE

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..E............

>> | > >> >> > | > | >>

>> | > >> >> > | > |

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >>

>> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

>> -

>> | > >> >> > -

>> | > >> >> > | > ----------

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> --

>> | > >> >> > | > | >>

>> | > >> >> > | > |

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >>

>> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

>> -

>> | > >> >> > -

>> | > >> >> > | > ----------

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> --

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > -----

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

>> | > >> >> > | > SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

>> | > >> >> > SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security

>> tab

>> | > >> >> > under

>> | > >> >> > the

>> | > >> >> > | > Tools,

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Options

>> | > >> >> > | > | > menu.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Version :

>> 6.00.2800.1123

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

>> | > >> >> > Files\Outlook

>> | > >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

>> | > >> >> > (Heximal)

>> | > >> >> > | > 4294501077

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1101

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name :

>> news.optonline.net

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 119 (NNTP -

>> Network

>> | > >> >> > News

>> | > >> >> > | > Transfer

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:

>> 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

>> 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't

>> fragment:

>> | > >> >> > Set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More

>> fragments:

>> | > >> >> > Not

>> | > >> >> > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

>> Control

>> | > >> >> > Protocol)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 209.197.15.254

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1101

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 119

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2582083

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =

>> Congestion

>> | > >> >> > Window

>> | > >> >> > | > Reduce

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

>> | > >> >> > | > | > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... =

>> ECN-Echo:

>> Not

>> | > >> >> > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... =

>> Urgent:

>> Not

>> | > >> >> > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

>> | > >> >> > Acknowledgment:

>> | > >> >> > Not

>> | > >> >> > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push:

>> Not

>> set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset:

>> Not

>> | > >> >> > set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn:

>> Set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin:

>> Not

>> set

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00

>> 45

>> 00

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >> > .0.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03

>> D1

>> C5

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0..@....T......

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00

>> 70

>> 02

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...M.w.'fC....p.

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02

>> 6F

>> 2F

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .S...........

>> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

>> | > >> >> > | > | >>

>> | > >> >> > | > | >

>> | > >> >> > | > |

>> | > >> >> > | >

>> | > >> >> > |

>> | > >> >> >

>> | > >> >>

>> | > >> >

>> | > >>

>> | > >

>> | >

>> |

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

I need you to read my most recent postings.

!. I am confused about the MSXML4sp2 updated and what to delete. I need it

explained more clearly, please.

2. Quick Time doesn't have an uninstaller. When I hit add/remove programs it

said it was uninstalling my Camedia (the program I attach my digital camera

to the computer...that was o.k.

But, there is nothing that says uninstall quick Time, It only gives the

option to remove extensions. (in add/remove programs) and it says that I

shouldn't do that.

In Internet Options when I click it. It tells me that I should uninstall and

install again as I am missing 2 exe files.

If I put the CD in the drive....will that give me an option to uninstall?

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gary S. Terhune" <none>

Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:21 PM

Subject: Re: IE Running well so far

> Then you DO have that very old version MEB was talking about. You should

> uninstall it, then hope your banking site doesn't require it. Might just

> look different but still work. (I thought I had a link to the last version

> that worked with Win98, but I'll have to look deeper.)

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483e04fb$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will

> > uninstall that

> > update(4.0sdk).

> > The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if I

> > uninstall it I

> > will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest idea

what

> > it came

> > with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further

investigation

> > shows that

> > the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for

> > Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is why I

> > can't open

> > it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what CD

it

> > would be on

> > to re-install.

> >

> > I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online.

Gin

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to

> >> consider:

> >> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If

> >> you're

> >> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post

it

> >> here. After uninstalling that, then get:

> >>

> >> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer

> >>

> >> then this patch:

> >> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>

> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.

> >> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5

KB.

> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483e234b$0$25024$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> One of my posts has 'gone missing' and I'm sitting here unclear about how to do

this

> service patch . I downloaded msxml4-KB927978-enu.exe (file version 1)....., (I

typed

> in tinyurl.com/y6a2sl and it redirected me to this MSXML 4.0 Service Pack2

> (Microsoft XML Core Services) - I think that is what I downloaded. Is that the

first

> one or the second one??

> Also....What am I supposed to post here and uninstall from my system??? I am

> confused. Thanks. Gin

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:eVflMSTwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Sygate uses a database that started out blank. *Everything* you do for a

> > while will be a "change" to Sygate. If it's a program you recognize, then,

> > short of doing a lot more research, you have no choice but to trust that

> > it's not a malware DLL in disguise, and approve the update to Sygate's

> > database. Once you've finished training it, then when it says "change" it

> > will almost always actually mean "change". Then you are expected to be able

> > to remember recent changes to your system and update Sygate appropriately.

> >

> > If it's a question you have about the program that is being cited, like you

> > did with QT, then you do as you did: ask about it, do some research. But try

> > to refrain from acting on our advice, or even stuff you read elsewhere using

> > Google, etc., too quickly, not even mine, in case there's an important (or

> > even minor) correction, contradiction or addendum to that advice in the near

> > future.

> >

> > In this case, besides just what QT stands for, you should have learned

> > enough in this thread to ask yourself, "Just how old IS that QuickTime of

> > mine, anyway?" and "Maybe I should uninstall it and then install the latest

> > version if I find I need it later." So, in a way, Sygate is teaching you,

> > too.

> >

> > --

> > Gary S. Terhune

> > MS-MVP Shell/User

> > http://www.grystmill.com

> >

> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >I don't mind training something. I simply don;t know if it is o.k. to allow

> > >every

> > > program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook Express. If

> > > it is

> > > harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it seems to

> > > me we

> > > spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong and

> > > putting in

> > > .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my Internet

> > > Explorer

> > > and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.

> > > It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate reporting to

> > > me that

> > > these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before Sygate, my

> > > programs

> > > were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?

> > >

> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > >> My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are viewed

> > >> using a

> > >> QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and they

> > >> are

> > >> just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit), installed

> > >> by

> > >> the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet Options? On

> > >> what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my system as I

> > >> am

> > >> in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just uninstall

> > >> QT

> > >> in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go back and

> > >> reinstall it if you discover you need it.

> > >>

> > >> But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train that

> > >> firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process, uninstall it

> > >> and

> > >> either use something else or nothing at all. You already have pretty

> > >> decent

> > >> protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done

> > >> bugging

> > >> you, not by a LONG shot.

> > >>

> > >> --

> > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >>

> > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have Quick

> > >> >Time in

> > >> > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to my son

> > >> > and

> > >> > another

> > >> > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following (long

> > >> > list)

> > >> > of

> > >> > components to your system, do you want them to access the internet."

> > >> > Why

> > >> > would I want

> > >> > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer while I am

> > >> > trying to do

> > >> > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would like to

> > >> > uninstall

> > >> > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know what QT32

> > >> > is!!! A

> > >> > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank. Ginny

> > >> >

> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > >> > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > >> >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of the bed

> > >> >> this

> > >> >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though I must

> > >> >> say

> > >> >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his feelings

> > >> >> about

> > >> >> XP.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> --

> > >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > >> >>

> > >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > >> >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny

> > >> >> >

>

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

I already explained this in another post to Ginny, so here's the Cliff

notes: The Sygate firewall has to be taught *everything*. Every file that is

getting loaded for the first time since installing the firewall is a

"change".

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:OiXKs2SwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Not to take Gary's place, but are these actually being changed or are they

> just being called for?

> DLLs are dynamic link libraries which generally are NOT changed that much

> but by updates applied by YOU. If you're finished updating then they

> should

> be stable.

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | I don't mind training something. I simply don;t know if it is o.k. to

> allow every

> | program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook Express.

> If

> it is

> | harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it seems

> to

> me we

> | spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong and

> putting in

> | .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my

> Internet

> Explorer

> | and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.

> | It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate reporting

> to me that

> | these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before Sygate, my

> programs

> | were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?

> |

> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are viewed

> using a

> | > QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and they

> are

> | > just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit),

> installed

> by

> | > the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet Options?

> On

> | > what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my system

> as

> I am

> | > in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just

> uninstall

> QT

> | > in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go back

> and

> | > reinstall it if you discover you need it.

> | >

> | > But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train that

> | > firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process, uninstall

> it

> and

> | > either use something else or nothing at all. You already have pretty

> decent

> | > protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done

> bugging

> | > you, not by a LONG shot.

> | >

> | > --

> | > Gary S. Terhune

> | > MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > http://www.grystmill.com

> | >

> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have

> Quick

> | > >Time in

> | > > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to my

> son

> and

> | > > another

> | > > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following (long

> list)

> | > > of

> | > > components to your system, do you want them to access the internet."

> Why

> | > > would I want

> | > > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer while I

> am

> | > > trying to do

> | > > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would like

> to

> | > > uninstall

> | > > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know what

> QT32

> | > > is!!! A

> | > > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank.

> Ginny

> | > >

> | > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of the

> bed

> | > >> this

> | > >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though I

> must

> say

> | > >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his

> feelings

> | > >> about

> | > >> XP.

> | > >>

> | > >> --

> | > >> Gary S. Terhune

> | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > >> http://www.grystmill.com

> | > >>

> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny

> | > >> >

> | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > >> > news:OtdhcSQwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > >> >> I've simply been answering your questions. You're the one acting

> | > >> >> strangely

> | > >> >> today. And you most certainly did make a judgment and

> recommendations

> | > >> >> about

> | > >> >> what was installed without finding out the facts first, such as

> what

> | > >> >> was

> | > >> >> really installed. That's what I called you on.

> | > >> >>

> | > >> >> No, I'd say you are the one on a tear, today. Note your

> full-frontal

> | > >> >> assault

> | > >> >> on me in the other sub-thread on this topic.

> | > >> >>

> | > >> >> --

> | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> | > >> >>

> | > >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > >> >> news:Ocmk67OwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > >> >> > I didn't make a judgement, its what we generally do, double

> check

> | > >> >> > each

> | > >> >> > other...

> | > >> >> >

> | > >> >> > And you're right, one does remove the actual entries and files

> if

> | > >> >> > possible.

> | > >> >> > But MSCONFIG is your normal choice to use for these things,

> for

> | > >> >> > testing

> | > >> >> > purposes. I USE autoruns or other tools... and I DID mention

> AOL

> as

> | > >> >> > being

> | > >> >> > a

> | > >> >> > possible issue...

> | > >> >> >

> | > >> >> > Forget it Gary, seems I've touched a nerve today...

> | > >> >> >

> | > >> >> > --

> | > >> >> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > >> >> > --

> | > >> >> > _________

> | > >> >> >

> | > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > news:OpJp60OwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > >> >> > | What gets me is that you would assume that some old version

> of

> QT

> | > >> >> > was

> | > >> >> > | installed and never updated. That you didn't take into

> account

> the

> | > >> >> > | possibility that it is an updated version or that the tray

> stub

> | > >> >> > had

> | > >> >> > been

> | > >> >> > | disabled as is (or at least was) so often recommended in

> this

> | > >> >> > group.

> | > >> >> > (Same

> | > >> >> > | for RP and any number of other such nuisances.) You failed

> in

> | > >> >> > something

> | > >> >> > you

> | > >> >> > | usually do so well -- finding out the whole story before

> making

> | > >> >> > any

> | > >> >> > | judgments and issuing advice.

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | --

> | > >> >> > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > >> >> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > >> >> > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > | news:Oc4KUjOwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > >> >> > | > So right, you check for the loader/tray stub with

> MSCONFIG,

> and

> | > >> >> > disabled

> | > >> >> > | > it

> | > >> >> > | > if its not presently part of a current AOL ISP package. If

> it

> | > >> >> > is,

> | > >> >> > then

> | > >> >> > a

> | > >> >> > | > different course might be needed

> | > >> >> > | > Same for Real Player.

> | > >> >> > | >

> | > >> >> > | > Also disable Check for Updates..

> | > >> >> > | >

> | > >> >> > | > --

> | > >> >> > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > >> >> > | > --

> | > >> >> > | > _________

> | > >> >> > | >

> | > >> >> > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > | > news:OqfkOdOwIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > >> >> > | > | Correct me if I'm wrong, but IME it only nags if you

> leave

> | > >> >> > that

> | > >> >> > thing

> | > >> >> > in

> | > >> >> > | > the

> | > >> >> > | > | tray. We removed it.

> | > >> >> > | > |

> | > >> >> > | > | --

> | > >> >> > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > >> >> > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > >> >> > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > >> >> > | > |

> | > >> >> > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > | > | news:483d7e53$0$11627$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > >> >> > | > | > Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is?

> Sygate

> says

> | > >> >> > it

> | > >> >> > was

> | > >> >> > | > | > critical that I

> | > >> >> > | > | > had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time,

> and I

> | > >> >> > don't

> | > >> >> > | > even

> | > >> >> > | > | > remember what

> | > >> >> > | > | > it is. Ginny

> | > >> >> > | > | >

> | > >> >> > | > | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > | > | > news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > >> >> > | > | >> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I

> go

> to

> | > >> >> > one

> | > >> >> > of

> | > >> >> > my

> | > >> >> > | > OE

> | > >> >> > | > | >> accounts,

> | > >> >> > | > | > or

> | > >> >> > | > | >> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't

> let

> me

> | > >> >> > go

> | > >> >> > there.

> | > >> >> > I

> | > >> >> > | > | >> will try to

> | > >> >> > | > | >> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal

> thing

> | > >> >> > since

> | > >> >> > I

> | > >> >> > used

> | > >> >> > | > the

> | > >> >> > | > | >> IE6sp1

> | > >> >> > | > | >> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more

> than I

> | > >> >> > posted

> | > >> >> > | > last

> | > >> >> > | > | >> night.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> So in summary, my computer works but only if I let

> it

> | > >> >> > add a

> | > >> >> > LOT

> | > >> >> > of

> | > >> >> > | > | >> dlls.

> | > >> >> > | > | > Ginny

> | > >> >> > | > | >>

> | > >> >> > | > | >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > >> >> > | > | >> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing

> it. I

> | > >> >> > | > downloaded

> | > >> >> > | > | > Sygate5.5.2577

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > After installation it said IE was loading a new dll

> for

> | > >> >> > Avast,

> | > >> >> > so

> | > >> >> > I

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > said o.k. but

> | > >> >> > | > | > I

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > didn't write it down.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then it said IE is loading new

> dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System

> | > >> >> > | > MFC42LOC.DLL

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > FILE; I.E.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > PROCESS ID FF872F29

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > TCP t

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this

> :

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This

> is

> | > >> >> > common

> | > >> >> > if

> | > >> >> > you

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > have updated

> | > >> >> > | > | >> O.E.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > lately. (because of firewall)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

> | > >> >> > SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security

> tab

> | > >> >> > under

> | > >> >> > the

> | > >> >> > | > Tools,

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Options

> | > >> >> > | > | >> menu.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Version :

> 6.00.2800.1123

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

> | > >> >> > Files\Outlook

> | > >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

> | > >> >> > (Heximal)

> | > >> >> > | > 4294501077

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1094

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name :

> mail.optonline.net

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 25 (SMTP -

> Simple

> | > >> >> > Mail

> | > >> >> > Transfer

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:

> 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

> 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't

> fragment:

> | > >> >> > Set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More

> fragments:

> | > >> >> > Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

> Control

> | > >> >> > Protocol)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 167.206.5.250

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1094

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 25

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2040560

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =

> Congestion

> | > >> >> > Window

> | > >> >> > | > Reduce

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

> | > >> >> > | > | > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... =

> ECN-Echo:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

> | > >> >> > Acknowledgment:

> | > >> >> > Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push:

> Not

> set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn:

> Set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin:

> Not

> set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00

> 45

> 00

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > .0.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03

> A7

> CE

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0r.@....P......

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00

> 70

> 02

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...F....".....p.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02

> C5

> CE

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..E............

> | > >> >> > | > | >>

> | > >> >> > | > |

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >>

>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

> -

> | > >> >> > -

> | > >> >> > | > ----------

> | > >> >> > | > | >> --

> | > >> >> > | > | >>

> | > >> >> > | > |

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >>

>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

> -

> | > >> >> > -

> | > >> >> > | > ----------

> | > >> >> > | > | >> --

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > -----

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

> | > >> >> > | > SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

> | > >> >> > SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security

> tab

> | > >> >> > under

> | > >> >> > the

> | > >> >> > | > Tools,

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Options

> | > >> >> > | > | > menu.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Version :

> 6.00.2800.1123

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

> | > >> >> > Files\Outlook

> | > >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

> | > >> >> > (Heximal)

> | > >> >> > | > 4294501077

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1101

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name :

> news.optonline.net

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 119 (NNTP -

> Network

> | > >> >> > News

> | > >> >> > | > Transfer

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:

> 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

> 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't

> fragment:

> | > >> >> > Set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More

> fragments:

> | > >> >> > Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

> Control

> | > >> >> > Protocol)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 209.197.15.254

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1101

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 119

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2582083

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =

> Congestion

> | > >> >> > Window

> | > >> >> > | > Reduce

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

> | > >> >> > | > | > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... =

> ECN-Echo:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

> | > >> >> > Acknowledgment:

> | > >> >> > Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push:

> Not

> set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset:

> Not

> | > >> >> > set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn:

> Set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin:

> Not

> set

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00

> 45

> 00

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > .0.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03

> D1

> C5

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0..@....T......

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00

> 70

> 02

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...M.w.'fC....p.

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02

> 6F

> 2F

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .S...........

> | > >> >> > | > | >> >

> | > >> >> > | > | >>

> | > >> >> > | > | >

> | > >> >> > | > |

> | > >> >> > | >

> | > >> >> > |

> | > >> >> >

> | > >> >>

> | > >> >

> | > >>

> | > >

> | >

> |

>

May 29, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Add/Remove Programs

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483e1925$0$15180$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>I want to be clear before I do this. When you say "write down any entry

>that includes

> MSXML and post it here, and uninstall it"......please tell me where am I

> getting this

> "entry" from? Ginny

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to

>> consider:

>> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If

>> you're

>> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post it

>> here. After uninstalling that, then get:

>>

>> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer

>>

>> then this patch:

>> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.

>> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5 KB.

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >>

>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on

>> >> > February

>> >> > 4,2002. I

>> >> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop.

>> >> > Ginny

>> >> >

>> >> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from,

>> >> >> > and

>> >> >>

>> >> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

>> >> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

>> >> >> originally installed.

>> >> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

>> >> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

>> >> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

>> >> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

>> >> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

>> >> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

>> >> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

>> >> >> on it.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

>> >> >> tongue

>> >> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

Your questions and answers on this case are wandering all over the thread.

I've already given you the answers to this one. Actually, I asked a bunch of

questions, to which I need the answers before advising. We will continue in

THAT thread, not this one.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483e1e38$0$15158$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Add/Remove programs allowed me to remove the program Quick Time came with

> ....and it

> strongly said I should not try to delete extensions (which is the only

> other option).

> There is no direct Quick Time Remove in any way. It says it is missing 2

> .exe files

> and says I should uninstall and re-install Quick Time. Do I do the

> uninstall with the

> CD?

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:eVflMSTwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Sygate uses a database that started out blank. *Everything* you do for a

>> while will be a "change" to Sygate. If it's a program you recognize,

>> then,

>> short of doing a lot more research, you have no choice but to trust that

>> it's not a malware DLL in disguise, and approve the update to Sygate's

>> database. Once you've finished training it, then when it says "change" it

>> will almost always actually mean "change". Then you are expected to be

>> able

>> to remember recent changes to your system and update Sygate

>> appropriately.

>>

>> If it's a question you have about the program that is being cited, like

>> you

>> did with QT, then you do as you did: ask about it, do some research. But

>> try

>> to refrain from acting on our advice, or even stuff you read elsewhere

>> using

>> Google, etc., too quickly, not even mine, in case there's an important

>> (or

>> even minor) correction, contradiction or addendum to that advice in the

>> near

>> future.

>>

>> In this case, besides just what QT stands for, you should have learned

>> enough in this thread to ask yourself, "Just how old IS that QuickTime of

>> mine, anyway?" and "Maybe I should uninstall it and then install the

>> latest

>> version if I find I need it later." So, in a way, Sygate is teaching you,

>> too.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >I don't mind training something. I simply don;t know if it is o.k. to

>> >allow

>> >every

>> > program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook Express.

>> > If

>> > it is

>> > harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it seems

>> > to

>> > me we

>> > spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong and

>> > putting in

>> > .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my

>> > Internet

>> > Explorer

>> > and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.

>> > It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate reporting

>> > to

>> > me that

>> > these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before Sygate,

>> > my

>> > programs

>> > were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?

>> >

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are viewed

>> >> using a

>> >> QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and they

>> >> are

>> >> just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit),

>> >> installed

>> >> by

>> >> the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet Options?

>> >> On

>> >> what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my system

>> >> as I

>> >> am

>> >> in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just

>> >> uninstall

>> >> QT

>> >> in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go back

>> >> and

>> >> reinstall it if you discover you need it.

>> >>

>> >> But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train that

>> >> firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process, uninstall

>> >> it

>> >> and

>> >> either use something else or nothing at all. You already have pretty

>> >> decent

>> >> protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done

>> >> bugging

>> >> you, not by a LONG shot.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >>

>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have

>> >> >Quick

>> >> >Time in

>> >> > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to my

>> >> > son

>> >> > and

>> >> > another

>> >> > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following (long

>> >> > list)

>> >> > of

>> >> > components to your system, do you want them to access the internet."

>> >> > Why

>> >> > would I want

>> >> > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer while I

>> >> > am

>> >> > trying to do

>> >> > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would like

>> >> > to

>> >> > uninstall

>> >> > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know what

>> >> > QT32

>> >> > is!!! A

>> >> > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank.

>> >> > Ginny

>> >> >

>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of the

>> >> >> bed

>> >> >> this

>> >> >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though I

>> >> >> must

>> >> >> say

>> >> >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his

>> >> >> feelings

>> >> >> about

>> >> >> XP.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> >> > news:OtdhcSQwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> >> I've simply been answering your questions. You're the one acting

>> >> >> >> strangely

>> >> >> >> today. And you most certainly did make a judgment and

>> >> >> >> recommendations

>> >> >> >> about

>> >> >> >> what was installed without finding out the facts first, such as

>> >> >> >> what

>> >> >> >> was

>> >> >> >> really installed. That's what I called you on.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> No, I'd say you are the one on a tear, today. Note your

>> >> >> >> full-frontal

>> >> >> >> assault

>> >> >> >> on me in the other sub-thread on this topic.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> news:Ocmk67OwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> >> > I didn't make a judgement, its what we generally do, double

>> >> >> >> > check

>> >> >> >> > each

>> >> >> >> > other...

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > And you're right, one does remove the actual entries and files

>> >> >> >> > if

>> >> >> >> > possible.

>> >> >> >> > But MSCONFIG is your normal choice to use for these things,

>> >> >> >> > for

>> >> >> >> > testing

>> >> >> >> > purposes. I USE autoruns or other tools... and I DID mention

>> >> >> >> > AOL

>> >> >> >> > as

>> >> >> >> > being

>> >> >> >> > a

>> >> >> >> > possible issue...

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > Forget it Gary, seems I've touched a nerve today...

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > --

>> >> >> >> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> >> >> >> > --

>> >> >> >> > _________

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> > news:OpJp60OwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> >> > | What gets me is that you would assume that some old version

>> >> >> >> > of

>> >> >> >> > QT

>> >> >> >> > was

>> >> >> >> > | installed and never updated. That you didn't take into

>> >> >> >> > account

>> >> >> >> > the

>> >> >> >> > | possibility that it is an updated version or that the tray

>> >> >> >> > stub

>> >> >> >> > had

>> >> >> >> > been

>> >> >> >> > | disabled as is (or at least was) so often recommended in

>> >> >> >> > this

>> >> >> >> > group.

>> >> >> >> > (Same

>> >> >> >> > | for RP and any number of other such nuisances.) You failed

>> >> >> >> > in

>> >> >> >> > something

>> >> >> >> > you

>> >> >> >> > | usually do so well -- finding out the whole story before

>> >> >> >> > making

>> >> >> >> > any

>> >> >> >> > | judgments and issuing advice.

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >> > | --

>> >> >> >> > | Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> >> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> >> > | http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >> > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> > | news:Oc4KUjOwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> >> > | > So right, you check for the loader/tray stub with

>> >> >> >> > MSCONFIG,

>> >> >> >> > and

>> >> >> >> > disabled

>> >> >> >> > | > it

>> >> >> >> > | > if its not presently part of a current AOL ISP package. If

>> >> >> >> > it

>> >> >> >> > is,

>> >> >> >> > then

>> >> >> >> > a

>> >> >> >> > | > different course might be needed

>> >> >> >> > | > Same for Real Player.

>> >> >> >> > | >

>> >> >> >> > | > Also disable Check for Updates..

>> >> >> >> > | >

>> >> >> >> > | > --

>> >> >> >> > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> >> >> >> > | > --

>> >> >> >> > | > _________

>> >> >> >> > | >

>> >> >> >> > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> > | > news:OqfkOdOwIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> >> > | > | Correct me if I'm wrong, but IME it only nags if you

>> >> >> >> > leave

>> >> >> >> > that

>> >> >> >> > thing

>> >> >> >> > in

>> >> >> >> > | > the

>> >> >> >> > | > | tray. We removed it.

>> >> >> >> > | > |

>> >> >> >> > | > | --

>> >> >> >> > | > | Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> >> > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> >> > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >> >> > | > |

>> >> >> >> > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> > | > | news:483d7e53$0$11627$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> >> >> > | > | > Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is?

>> >> >> >> > Sygate

>> >> >> >> > says

>> >> >> >> > it

>> >> >> >> > was

>> >> >> >> > | > | > critical that I

>> >> >> >> > | > | > had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time,

>> >> >> >> > and I

>> >> >> >> > don't

>> >> >> >> > | > even

>> >> >> >> > | > | > remember what

>> >> >> >> > | > | > it is. Ginny

>> >> >> >> > | > | >

>> >> >> >> > | > | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> > | > | > news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I

>> >> >> >> > go

>> >> >> >> > to

>> >> >> >> > one

>> >> >> >> > of

>> >> >> >> > my

>> >> >> >> > | > OE

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> accounts,

>> >> >> >> > | > | > or

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't

>> >> >> >> > let

>> >> >> >> > me

>> >> >> >> > go

>> >> >> >> > there.

>> >> >> >> > I

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> will try to

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal

>> >> >> >> > thing

>> >> >> >> > since

>> >> >> >> > I

>> >> >> >> > used

>> >> >> >> > | > the

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> IE6sp1

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more

>> >> >> >> > than

>> >> >> >> > I

>> >> >> >> > posted

>> >> >> >> > | > last

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> night.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> So in summary, my computer works but only if I let

>> >> >> >> > it

>> >> >> >> > add a

>> >> >> >> > LOT

>> >> >> >> > of

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> dlls.

>> >> >> >> > | > | > Ginny

>> >> >> >> > | > | >>

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing

>> >> >> >> > it. I

>> >> >> >> > | > downloaded

>> >> >> >> > | > | > Sygate5.5.2577

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > After installation it said IE was loading a new dll

>> >> >> >> > for

>> >> >> >> > Avast,

>> >> >> >> > so

>> >> >> >> > I

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > said o.k. but

>> >> >> >> > | > | > I

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > didn't write it down.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Then it said IE is loading new

>> >> >> >> > dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System

>> >> >> >> > | > MFC42LOC.DLL

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > FILE; I.E.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > PROCESS ID FF872F29

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > TCP t

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this

>> >> >> >> > :

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This

>> >> >> >> > is

>> >> >> >> > common

>> >> >> >> > if

>> >> >> >> > you

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > have updated

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> O.E.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > lately. (because of firewall)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

>> >> >> >> > SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security

>> >> >> >> > tab

>> >> >> >> > under

>> >> >> >> > the

>> >> >> >> > | > Tools,

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Options

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> menu.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Version :

>> >> >> >> > 6.00.2800.1123

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

>> >> >> >> > Files\Outlook

>> >> >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

>> >> >> >> > (Heximal)

>> >> >> >> > | > 4294501077

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1094

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name :

>> >> >> >> > mail.optonline.net

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 167.206.5.250

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 25 (SMTP -

>> >> >> >> > Simple

>> >> >> >> > Mail

>> >> >> >> > Transfer

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:

>> >> >> >> > 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

>> >> >> >> > 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't

>> >> >> >> > fragment:

>> >> >> >> > Set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More

>> >> >> >> > fragments:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

>> >> >> >> > Control

>> >> >> >> > Protocol)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 167.206.5.250

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1094

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 25

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2040560

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =

>> >> >> >> > Congestion

>> >> >> >> > Window

>> >> >> >> > | > Reduce

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

>> >> >> >> > | > | > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... =

>> >> >> >> > ECN-Echo:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

>> >> >> >> > Acknowledgment:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn:

>> >> >> >> > Set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00

>> >> >> >> > 45

>> >> >> >> > 00

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >> > .0.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03

>> >> >> >> > A7

>> >> >> >> > CE

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .0r.@....P......

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00

>> >> >> >> > 70

>> >> >> >> > 02

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ...F....".....p.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02

>> >> >> >> > C5

>> >> >> >> > CE

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ..E............

>> >> >> >> > | > | >>

>> >> >> >> > | > |

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >>

>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> >> >> >> > -

>> >> >> >> > | > ----------

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> --

>> >> >> >> > | > | >>

>> >> >> >> > | > |

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >>

>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> >> >> >> > -

>> >> >> >> > | > ----------

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> --

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > -----

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Outlook Express has added 2 dll files

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

>> >> >> >> > | > SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT

>> >> >> >> > SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the security

>> >> >> >> > tab

>> >> >> >> > under

>> >> >> >> > the

>> >> >> >> > | > Tools,

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Options

>> >> >> >> > | > | > menu.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Version :

>> >> >> >> > 6.00.2800.1123

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook Express

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > File Path : C:\Program

>> >> >> >> > Files\Outlook

>> >> >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5

>> >> >> >> > (Heximal)

>> >> >> >> > | > 4294501077

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1101

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name :

>> >> >> >> > news.optonline.net

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 209.197.15.254

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 119 (NNTP -

>> >> >> >> > Network

>> >> >> >> > News

>> >> >> >> > | > Transfer

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:

>> >> >> >> > 00-30-bd-20-ef-95

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source:

>> >> >> >> > 00-04-75-ad-62-4d

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't

>> >> >> >> > fragment:

>> >> >> >> > Set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More

>> >> >> >> > fragments:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission

>> >> >> >> > Control

>> >> >> >> > Protocol)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 209.197.15.254

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1101

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 119

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2582083

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =

>> >> >> >> > Congestion

>> >> >> >> > Window

>> >> >> >> > | > Reduce

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not

>> >> >> >> > | > | > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... =

>> >> >> >> > ECN-Echo:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... = Urgent:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =

>> >> >> >> > Acknowledgment:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... = Push:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. = Reset:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. = Syn:

>> >> >> >> > Set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 = Fin:

>> >> >> >> > Not

>> >> >> >> > set

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00

>> >> >> >> > 45

>> >> >> >> > 00

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >> > .0.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03

>> >> >> >> > D1

>> >> >> >> > C5

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .0..@....T......

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00

>> >> >> >> > 70

>> >> >> >> > 02

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > ...M.w.'fC....p.

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02

>> >> >> >> > 6F

>> >> >> >> > 2F

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> > .S...........

>> >> >> >> > | > | >> >

>> >> >> >> > | > | >>

>> >> >> >> > | > | >

>> >> >> >> > | > |

>> >> >> >> > | >

>> >> >> >> > |

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Just some further info for those who might be interested.

Though previous 98SE iuhist.xml-s did include the update, here's excerpts

from the download page I have saved from 02/09/2006 {note the date}:

Download details: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service

Pack 1 (KB823353)

Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1

(KB823353)

This update addresses the vulnerability discussed in Microsoft

Security Bulletin MS04-018. To find out if other security updates

are available for you, see the Overview section of this page.

Quick Info

File Name:IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe

Download Size:1950 KB

Date Published:7/14/2004

Version:OE6

Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6

Service Pack 1 (KB823353)

English

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018

System Requirements

Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2,

Windows 2000 Service Pack 3, Windows 2000 Service Pack 4,

Windows NT, Windows XP, Windows XP Service Pack 1

This update applies to Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (SP1)

with the following operating systems:

Windows XP SP1

Windows XP

Windows 2000 SP2

Windows 2000 SP3

Windows 2000 SP4

Windows NT 4.0 SP6A

------

The file I have saved with a date of 11/23/04 was also saved with the

download page [same date] which reflects the above information.:

Compare to the below date.

As example of one of the old iuhist containment {the < have been removed}:

itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2004-08-03T05:23:24">

identity

itemID="ie60x.internetexplorer6x.ver_platform_win32_windows.4.10.x86.en.....

..com_microsoft.q823353_oe6_sp1." name="Q823353_OE6_SP1">

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(KB823353)</title>

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{I was wrong it wasn't part of the December update debacle.}

--

--

_________

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

I need YOU to be more patient. And to stop posting wherever you feel like

it. I know this is a long and multi-threaded issue, but it's your

responsibility to find the proper thread and post to respond to. If you

think it's missing, then at least go back to the top of this thread ("IE

works so far", not "What is Quick Time") to post your "I'm lost" post. While

this was intended to be a wrap-up thread for the original issue, you're now

tacking new issues onto it, like this whole Sygate/QT thread. No need to

further muck up the works by adding more to this sub-thread.

So be patient, I have had to answer lots of posts today and some in depth,

and I've done a lot of research on your part and on the part of others. I

also had to rebuild my 98 machine, eat, etc., etc. And because you posted

these MSXML questions here instead of where they belong, *I* have to go

searching for wherever in this mess the posts regarding MSXML update, etc.,

is located. I'll post/repost there and answer your question(s) there.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483e2660$0$25036$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>I need you to read my most recent postings.

> !. I am confused about the MSXML4sp2 updated and what to delete. I need it

> explained more clearly, please.

> 2. Quick Time doesn't have an uninstaller. When I hit add/remove programs

> it

> said it was uninstalling my Camedia (the program I attach my digital

> camera

> to the computer...that was o.k.

> But, there is nothing that says uninstall quick Time, It only gives the

> option to remove extensions. (in add/remove programs) and it says that I

> shouldn't do that.

> In Internet Options when I click it. It tells me that I should uninstall

> and

> install again as I am missing 2 exe files.

> If I put the CD in the drive....will that give me an option to uninstall?

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Gary S. Terhune" <none>

> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:21 PM

> Subject: Re: IE Running well so far

>

>> Then you DO have that very old version MEB was talking about. You should

>> uninstall it, then hope your banking site doesn't require it. Might just

>> look different but still work. (I thought I had a link to the last

>> version

>> that worked with Win98, but I'll have to look deeper.)

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483e04fb$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will

>> > uninstall that

>> > update(4.0sdk).

>> > The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if I

>> > uninstall it I

>> > will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest idea

> what

>> > it came

>> > with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further

> investigation

>> > shows that

>> > the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for

>> > Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is why

>> > I

>> > can't open

>> > it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what CD

> it

>> > would be on

>> > to re-install.

>> >

>> > I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online.

> Gin

>> >

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to

>> >> consider:

>> >> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If

>> >> you're

>> >> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post

> it

>> >> here. After uninstalling that, then get:

>> >>

>> >> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer

>> >>

>> >> then this patch:

>> >> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >>

>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.

>> >> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5

> KB.

>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483e234b$0$25024$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> One of my posts has 'gone missing' and I'm sitting here unclear about how

>> to do

> this

>> service patch . I downloaded msxml4-KB927978-enu.exe (file version

>> 1)....., (I

> typed

>> in tinyurl.com/y6a2sl and it redirected me to this MSXML 4.0 Service

>> Pack2

>> (Microsoft XML Core Services) - I think that is what I downloaded. Is

>> that the

> first

>> one or the second one??

>> Also....What am I supposed to post here and uninstall from my system???

>> I am

>> confused. Thanks. Gin

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:eVflMSTwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > Sygate uses a database that started out blank. *Everything* you do for

>> > a

>> > while will be a "change" to Sygate. If it's a program you recognize,

>> > then,

>> > short of doing a lot more research, you have no choice but to trust

>> > that

>> > it's not a malware DLL in disguise, and approve the update to Sygate's

>> > database. Once you've finished training it, then when it says "change"

>> > it

>> > will almost always actually mean "change". Then you are expected to be

>> > able

>> > to remember recent changes to your system and update Sygate

>> > appropriately.

>> >

>> > If it's a question you have about the program that is being cited, like

>> > you

>> > did with QT, then you do as you did: ask about it, do some research.

>> > But try

>> > to refrain from acting on our advice, or even stuff you read elsewhere

>> > using

>> > Google, etc., too quickly, not even mine, in case there's an important

>> > (or

>> > even minor) correction, contradiction or addendum to that advice in the

>> > near

>> > future.

>> >

>> > In this case, besides just what QT stands for, you should have learned

>> > enough in this thread to ask yourself, "Just how old IS that QuickTime

>> > of

>> > mine, anyway?" and "Maybe I should uninstall it and then install the

>> > latest

>> > version if I find I need it later." So, in a way, Sygate is teaching

>> > you,

>> > too.

>> >

>> > --

>> > Gary S. Terhune

>> > MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > http://www.grystmill.com

>> >

>> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > >I don't mind training something. I simply don;t know if it is o.k. to

>> > >allow

>> > >every

>> > > program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook

>> > > Express. If

>> > > it is

>> > > harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it

>> > > seems to

>> > > me we

>> > > spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong

>> > > and

>> > > putting in

>> > > .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my

>> > > Internet

>> > > Explorer

>> > > and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.

>> > > It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate

>> > > reporting to

>> > > me that

>> > > these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before Sygate,

>> > > my

>> > > programs

>> > > were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?

>> > >

>> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > > news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > >> My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are viewed

>> > >> using a

>> > >> QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and

>> > >> they

>> > >> are

>> > >> just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit),

>> > >> installed

>> > >> by

>> > >> the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet

>> > >> Options? On

>> > >> what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my system

>> > >> as I

>> > >> am

>> > >> in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just

>> > >> uninstall

>> > >> QT

>> > >> in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go back

>> > >> and

>> > >> reinstall it if you discover you need it.

>> > >>

>> > >> But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train

>> > >> that

>> > >> firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process,

>> > >> uninstall it

>> > >> and

>> > >> either use something else or nothing at all. You already have pretty

>> > >> decent

>> > >> protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done

>> > >> bugging

>> > >> you, not by a LONG shot.

>> > >>

>> > >> --

>> > >> Gary S. Terhune

>> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > >>

>> > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > >> news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > >> >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have

>> > >> >Quick

>> > >> >Time in

>> > >> > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to my

>> > >> > son

>> > >> > and

>> > >> > another

>> > >> > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following (long

>> > >> > list)

>> > >> > of

>> > >> > components to your system, do you want them to access the

>> > >> > internet."

>> > >> > Why

>> > >> > would I want

>> > >> > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer while

>> > >> > I am

>> > >> > trying to do

>> > >> > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would

>> > >> > like to

>> > >> > uninstall

>> > >> > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know what

>> > >> > QT32

>> > >> > is!!! A

>> > >> > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank.

>> > >> > Ginny

>> > >> >

>> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > >> > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > >> >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of the

>> > >> >> bed

>> > >> >> this

>> > >> >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though I

>> > >> >> must

>> > >> >> say

>> > >> >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his

>> > >> >> feelings

>> > >> >> about

>> > >> >> XP.

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> --

>> > >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> > >> >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > >> >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny

>> > >> >> >

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

This is the post you're talking about elsewhere, Ginny. What's the problem?

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483e04fb$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will

> uninstall that

> update(4.0sdk).

> The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if I

> uninstall it I

> will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest idea what

> it came

> with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further investigation

> shows that

> the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for

> Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is why I

> can't open

> it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what CD it

> would be on

> to re-install.

>

> I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online. Gin

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to

>> consider:

>> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If

>> you're

>> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post it

>> here. After uninstalling that, then get:

>>

>> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer

>>

>> then this patch:

>> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.

>> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5 KB.

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >>

>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> >> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on

>> >> > February

>> >> > 4,2002. I

>> >> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop.

>> >> > Ginny

>> >> >

>> >> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from,

>> >> >> > and

>> >> >>

>> >> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

>> >> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

>> >> >> originally installed.

>> >> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

>> >> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

>> >> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

>> >> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

>> >> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

>> >> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

>> >> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

>> >> >> on it.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

>> >> >> tongue

>> >> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: IE Running well so far

Microsoft XML Parser and SDK

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%23cuv73TwIHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Add/Remove Programs

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483e1925$0$15180$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >I want to be clear before I do this. When you say "write down any entry

> >that includes

> > MSXML and post it here, and uninstall it"......please tell me where am I

> > getting this

> > "entry" from? Ginny

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to

> >> consider:

> >> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If

> >> you're

> >> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post it

> >> here. After uninstalling that, then get:

> >>

> >> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer

> >>

> >> then this patch:

> >> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>

> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.

> >> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5 KB.

> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> > news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> >> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >> >>

> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> >> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on

> >> >> > February

> >> >> > 4,2002. I

> >> >> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop.

> >> >> > Ginny

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

> >> >> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...

> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from,

> >> >> >> > and

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the

> >> >> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since

> >> >> >> originally installed.

> >> >> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the

> >> >> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many

> >> >> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.

> >> >> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column

> >> >> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for

> >> >> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,

> >> >> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light

> >> >> >> on it.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your

> >> >> >> tongue

> >> >> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 29, 2008

Re: What is Quick Time

Re: What is Quick Time

I uninstalled Camedia Master 4.2, but the Quick Time that came with it (the CD came

with my Olympus digital camera) stayed behind. It says it needs 2 exe files. If I

put the CD IN will I be able to remove the quick time. I remember I do have files

that run with quick time. Little movies of Frankie (less than a minute), but

priceless. I wouldn't want to lose them.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%23i%23gN2TwIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Don't reinstall it. If you need it for anything, there are much more recent

> versions that will work on Win98.

>

> As for your camera, I don't understand. What application is it that you use?

> What's the name? Did the CD come with the camera? Does it possibly just also

> happen to have QT the CD? Can you install the viewer separately?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User