tomasmaco11 Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Hi guys my name is johnny and i'm new to this forum would need some good help!. It's that i want to flash my bios to another bios so it suports overclocking/underclocking i already tried to flash the update or w/e you say.. but i wanna flash to another bios can somebody help me with this. Yes I wanna Flash to another bios, but can i get some insturctions? What diffrent bios can i flash so i don't destroy my motherboard? Product: Hp Pavalion 9000 Dv S/n CNF7042W50 P/N RY531EAUUW Service tag dv99294eu Hope you can help me http://www.pchelpforum.com/images/smilies/smiley.gif And Yes I know the risk Quote
Synapse Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 And Yes I know the risk Using a BIOS not meant for a board is more than a risk, but using the incorrect BIOS for a retail laptop is pretty much liable to brick it. I wouldn't go there if I were you. Quote
Dalo Harkin Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 I agree, but to give you more of an idea... To flash a BIOS essentially rewrites all the DATA stored on it and not only do you have to be able to boot to a flash drive, which you have to make yourself (as most dont have floppy anymore) you need the flash program which is propriatory to the BIOS used phoenix for example is phlash. the code needs to be written specifically for the chip, and you also need the original BIOS file to be flashed first, before a newer one is used. If HP have released BIOS updates then fine, use that but it wont include any additional OC options in it, as this invalidates the warranty I write my own BIOS flash mods for my servers, and I am telling you I would not recommend what you are trying to do Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
tomasmaco11 Posted January 20, 2011 Author Posted January 20, 2011 Using a BIOS not meant for a board is more than a risk, but using the incorrect BIOS for a retail laptop is pretty much liable to brick it. I wouldn't go there if I were you. Thx anyways i changed my mind but there is something i wonder I got a big computer Acer aspire intel 2x i5 8 GB and 1 TB and i got Ami Bios and its locked for overclocking and underclocking so i'm gonna buy a new motherboard just want you to take a look on it and tell me what you think It's a ASRock - Socket 1156 - Micro ATX Intel H55 (H55M PRO) - DDR3 / PCI-E CPU - Supports Intel® Core™ i7 / i5 / i3 and Pentium® G6950 Processors in LGA1156 Package - 4 + 1 Power Phase Design - Supports Intel® Turbo Boost Technology - Supports Hyper-Threading Technology - Supports Untied Overclocking Technology - Supports EM64T CPU Chipset - Intel® H55 Memory - Dual Channel DDR3 memory technology - 4 x DDR3 DIMM slots - Supports DDR3 2600+(OC)/2133(OC)/1866(OC)/1600/1333/1066 non-ECC, un-buffered memory - Max. capacity of system memory: 16GB• - Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) Graphics • Requires Processor with Intel® Graphics Technology (The CPU support list for Intel® Graphics Technology) - Supports Intel® HD Graphics - Pixel Shader 4.0, DirectX 10 - Max. shared memory 1759MB• - Multi VGA Output options: D-Sub, DVI-D and HDMI - Supports HDMI 1.3a Technology with max. resolution up to 1920x1200 - Supports DVI with max. resolution up to 1920x1200 @ 60Hz - Supports D-Sub with max. resolution up to 2048x1536 @ 75Hz - Supports Auto Lip Sync, Deep Color (12bpc), xvYCC and HBR (High Bit Rate Audio) with HDMI 1.3a (Compliant HDMI monitor is required) - Supports HDCP function with DVI and HDMI ports - Supports Full HD 1080p Blu-ray (BD) / HD-DVD playback Audio - 7.1 CH HD Audio (VIA® VT1718S Audio Codec) LAN - PCIE x1 Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s - Realtek RTL8111DL - Supports Wake-On-LAN Slots - 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot (at x16 mode) - 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot (at x4 mode, 2.5GT/s) - 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slot (2.5GT/s) - 1 x PCI slot - Supports ATI™ CrossFireX™ and Quad CrossFireX™ Connector - 5 x SATAII 3.0 Gb/s connectors, support NCQ, AHCI and Hot Plug functions - 1 x IR header - 1 x Print Port header - 1 x COM port header - 1 x HDMI_SPDIF header - 1 x IEEE 1394 header - 1 x TPM header - 1 x Chassis Intrusion header - CPU/Chassis/Power FAN connector - 24 pin ATX power connector - 8 pin 12V power connector - Front panel audio connector - 3 x USB 2.0 headers (support 6 USB 2.0 ports) Rear Panel I/O I/O Panel - 1 x PS/2 Keyboard Port - 1 x VGA/D-Sub Port - 1 x VGA/DVI-D Port - 1 x HDMI Port - 1 x Optical SPDIF Out Port - 5 x Ready-to-Use USB 2.0 Ports - 1 x Powered eSATAII/USB Connector - 1 x RJ-45 LAN Port with LED (ACT/LINK LED and SPEED LED) - 1 x IEEE 1394 Port - HD Audio Jack: Rear Speaker / Central / Bass / Line in / Front Speaker / Microphone Tell Me what you think about it and if it can be underclocked and overclocked im sure it can be and if so what programs? THX ALOT! Johnny Quote
Dalo Harkin Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Overclocking is board specific, but its somtimes limited by the multiplier on the CPU itself. Without knowing which i5 chip you have, I can't tell you Personally I would only ever buy ASUS and GIGABYTE boards for overclocking Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
Jelly Bean Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 I am with you Dalo,Gigabyte is my choice. Quote Rwy'n ceisio fy ngorau......................
tomasmaco11 Posted January 20, 2011 Author Posted January 20, 2011 ye Overclocking is board specific, but its somtimes limited by the multiplier on the CPU itself. Without knowing which i5 chip you have, I can't tell you Personally I would only ever buy ASUS and GIGABYTE boards for overclocking I'm buying it only for underclocking, i got an Acer aspire m5810 Intel R 2x core Tm i5 cpu 650 proccesor 3.20 ghz GB 8 AND 1 TB. 65 x System. Code name Clarkdale Package Socket 1156 LGA Manufactuer acer Model FMP55 Chispet Intel havendale/clarkdale host bridge Southbridge intel p55 So what you think? And i'm not overclicking it im underclocking it and if it works to replace it with my old one i just told you information would be awesome if you can tell me any programs that would work for underclocking just lower it instead of overclock with nvidiasystem tools it might work not sure yet. Quote
Dalo Harkin Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Why would you want to underclock it? Nvidia system tools is for the GPU not CPU and your system originally came with an ATI card, whereas Nvidia is for Nvidia cards only Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
tomasmaco11 Posted January 20, 2011 Author Posted January 20, 2011 Why would you want to underclock it? Nvidia system tools is for the GPU not CPU and your system originally came with an ATI card, whereas Nvidia is for Nvidia cards only Actually i got Nvidia card but the thing is tell me if i will be able to underclock if i change the motherboard for the one ill buy my friend said yes but i wanna be sure 100% and if i told you why i wanna underclock you would never understand :P well ill tell its a game called Gunz there have been this issue that people underclock by doing that they get slow movements and they're spikey and glitchty for other people and when they hit = shoot the other enemy they get alot of damage cuz of the underclock so its kinda cheat but you cant get baaned for it cuz you do it to ur computer so tell me if i buy this motherboard then download nvidia systemtools will i be able to underclock? cuz its not locked :P the motherboard im buying so please tell me :) Quote
tomasmaco11 Posted January 20, 2011 Author Posted January 20, 2011 Why would you want to underclock it? Nvidia system tools is for the GPU not CPU and your system originally came with an ATI card, whereas Nvidia is for Nvidia cards only Actually i got Nvidia card but the thing is tell me if i will be able to underclock if i change the motherboard for the one ill buy my friend said yes but i wanna be sure 100% and if i told you why i wanna underclock you would never understand :P well ill tell its a game called Gunz there have been this issue that people underclock by doing that they get slow movements and they're spikey and glitchty for other people and when they hit = shoot the other enemy they get alot of damage cuz of the underclock so its kinda cheat but you cant get baaned for it cuz you do it to ur computer so tell me if i buy this motherboard then download nvidia systemtools will i be able to underclock? cuz its not locked :P the motherboard im buying so please tell me :). And underclock makes it easier to aim and it makes ur HIT rate ingame bigger so more damage. thx again! Please answer my questions :P im curious cuz i might buy tomorrow lol. And if the nvidia systemtools wont work for my new motherboard then what program? but im sure it will or? And before you say anything think about i'm gonna lower the fsb in nvidiasystem tools tell me if it will work :P with the new motherboard Quote
Dalo Harkin Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 Underclocking a GPU can be done regardless what board you have..... you just need to use a software program such as the one you mentioned. As you originally said CPU that is where the confusion was. Personally I would not recommend using software to underclock/overclock a CPU or GPU as it is not reliable. So to clarify you are trying to software underclock your GPU, so it is irrelevant what MOBO you use to do it from as the MOBO is hardware Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
tomasmaco11 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 Underclocking a GPU can be done regardless what board you have..... you just need to use a software program such as the one you mentioned. As you originally said CPU that is where the confusion was. Personally I would not recommend using software to underclock/overclock a CPU or GPU as it is not reliable. So to clarify you are trying to software underclock your GPU, so it is irrelevant what MOBO you use to do it from as the MOBO is hardware WEBHALLEN.com - ASRock - Socket 1156 - Micro ATX Intel H55 (H55M PRO) - DDR3 / PCI-E that's the one i ordered ill replace it with my new one So ill be able to underclock my FSB? with this using nvidiasystemtools yes or no? Cuz mine now is locked but when i replace the motherboard it should work what do you think? Quote
Dalo Harkin Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 Let me clarify again... FSB is related to CPU and RAM GPUs are handled very differently and regardless what Motherboard you have (even your old one) you should be able to use software to underclock the GPU NVIDIA DRIVERS 5.05.54.00 If you cannot change any of the settings then it is the GPU that is limited and NOT the Motherboard Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
tomasmaco11 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) Let me clarify again... FSB is related to CPU and RAM GPUs are handled very differently and regardless what Motherboard you have (even your old one) you should be able to use software to underclock the GPU NVIDIA DRIVERS 5.05.54.00 If you cannot change any of the settings then it is the GPU that is limited and NOT the Motherboard I can change everything in the Gpu settings atm but i can't change the fsb cuz the nvidia systemtools program got an icon and its the motherboard icon when i press that i see the fsb but i cant lower it cuz my motherboard now is locked thats why i ordered a new one that is unlocked and my friend said to me that it will work .... im in a panic situation i really need an good answers im out of time almost... Cuz the motherboard needs to be unlocked and support overclock thats why i ordered it so i can lower the Fsb = front side bus in the motherboard in nvidia systemtools i really need an good answer now cuz im screwd if you tell me no....... my friend said it will work but i came to this forum to get a good answer thx again so please tell me Edited January 21, 2011 by tomasmaco11 Quote
RandyL Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 Your call Dalo Harkin. Quote We are all members helping other members. Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.Get help with computer problems. Join Free PC Help here Donations are welcome. Read Here
Dalo Harkin Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 The FSB being locked or unlocked will not make any difference to the way in which the GPU performs. What I am telling you is that if you are planning on underclocking the CPU and the RAM then yes it needs to be unlocked to do that. But you keep mentioning GPU and FSB and one has nothing to do with the other I can't make it any simpler than that Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
tomasmaco11 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 The FSB being locked or unlocked will not make any difference to the way in which the GPU performs. What I am telling you is that if you are planning on underclocking the CPU and the RAM then yes it needs to be unlocked to do that. But you keep mentioning GPU and FSB and one has nothing to do with the other I can't make it any simpler than that as i said even if motherboard is locked you can still change perfomance in gpu but NOT FSB OR CPU cuz thats the motherboard and my motherboard is locked my question is if i will be able to lower fsb when i get my new motherboard cuz thats unlocked And in nvidia systemtools you gotta go to motherboard option to lower fsb. Quote
Dalo Harkin Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 Right - ask your friend if for this 'glitch' to work if you just need to underclock the GPU or do you need to underclock the GPU, CPU and the RAM? Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
tomasmaco11 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) Right - ask your friend if for this 'glitch' to work if you just need to underclock the GPU or do you need to underclock the GPU, CPU and the RAM? Not really nothing of them just Lower the FSB = front side bus that is on the motherboard thats why i ordered the new.. motherboard :P? that is unlocked. That's what we call underclocking when you lower FSB on ur computer but your motherboard gotta be unlocked and the bad thing mine wasnt thats why i ordered a new so? Edited January 21, 2011 by tomasmaco11 Quote
Dalo Harkin Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 You originally said that you need to underclock your GPU to get this glitch to work... You are now saying that you need to underclock the FSB to get it to work... BOTH are completely different, one is controlled by the Motherboard (FSB) and the other is the (GPU) which is absolutley nothing to do with the FSB. Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
tomasmaco11 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 You originally said that you need to underclock your GPU to get this glitch to work... You are now saying that you need to underclock the FSB to get it to work... BOTH are completely different, one is controlled by the Motherboard (FSB) and the other is the (GPU) which is absolutley nothing to do with the FSB. Im so sorry and yes i wanna lower fsb and with the new motherboard it will work? to lower fsb in nvidia systemtools? Quote
Dalo Harkin Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Depends on the new MOBO, nearly all MOBOs allow the FSB to be increased. When you lower/higher the FSB, it affects the other components such as the RAM and CPU depending how much it is increased/decreased. As there are many versions of RAM and CPUs, you cannot say yes that will or wont work, some CPUs for example have locked multipliers, therefore lowering/increasing your FSB, wont be an option as the MOBO wont allow itself to be modified Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
tomasmaco11 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Posted January 25, 2011 Depends on the new MOBO, nearly all MOBOs allow the FSB to be increased. When you lower/higher the FSB, it affects the other components such as the RAM and CPU depending how much it is increased/decreased. As there are many versions of RAM and CPUs, you cannot say yes that will or wont work, some CPUs for example have locked multipliers, therefore lowering/increasing your FSB, wont be an option as the MOBO wont allow itself to be modified Checked reviews etc ASRock is even better than gigabyte supports everything it even comes with two cds with utilitys program you can even lower CPu frequency in the program that is linked to FSB so kinda same thing i just wonder how much should i lower... cuz if you lower to much you can get the bluescreen nothing dangerous but its's always good to know. --Johnny Quote
Dalo Harkin Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 If you have no idea what you are trying to achieve why are you trying to lower the FSB, for overclocking the CPU and RAM, you raise the FSB and lower the CPU multiplier... But you need to adjust voltage to both the CPU and RAM to compensate for the higher FSB You haven't made it clear (even now) what you are trying to do Most MOBO manufacturers have a software based overclocking system, but they are NOT reliable...over/underclocking needs doing from within the BIOS Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
tomasmaco11 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Posted January 25, 2011 If you have no idea what you are trying to achieve why are you trying to lower the FSB, for overclocking the CPU and RAM, you raise the FSB and lower the CPU multiplier... But you need to adjust voltage to both the CPU and RAM to compensate for the higher FSB You haven't made it clear (even now) what you are trying to do Most MOBO manufacturers have a software based overclocking system, but they are NOT reliable...over/underclocking needs doing from within the BIOS Ok my friend ^^got 200 FSB and in the program he got 200 cpu frequency that is linked to the fsb and he can only go 140 mhz if he goes lower he gets blue screen, i got 133 mhz and i tried go 120 it works but how lower can i actually go before i get the bluescreen? Since this is only for gaming after im done gaming ill turn it back to default. Thx again, everything you say is very importan for me so! yea :D Quote
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