creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer network

[Guest jawdoc]

I have a question regarding creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer

network. I recently encountered a network that was setup with a peer

to peer configuration even though there was a Windows 2003 server on

the network.

The network was setup by someone else and he created unique usernames

and passwords for each node on the network. My question is, what is

the easiest way to allow shares on a machine without adding every user

on the network to the machine that needs to share?

They don't want to go to a domain setup for some reason.

 

Thanks in advance!

[Guest Malke]

Re: creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer network

 

jawdoc wrote:

> I have a question regarding creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer

> network. I recently encountered a network that was setup with a peer

> to peer configuration even though there was a Windows 2003 server on

> the network.

> The network was setup by someone else and he created unique usernames

> and passwords for each node on the network. My question is, what is

> the easiest way to allow shares on a machine without adding every user

> on the network to the machine that needs to share?

> They don't want to go to a domain setup for some reason.

 

Use a generic logon.

 

Malke

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[Guest Big Al]

Re: creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer network

 

jawdoc wrote:

> I have a question regarding creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer

> network. I recently encountered a network that was setup with a peer

> to peer configuration even though there was a Windows 2003 server on

> the network.

> The network was setup by someone else and he created unique usernames

> and passwords for each node on the network. My question is, what is

> the easiest way to allow shares on a machine without adding every user

> on the network to the machine that needs to share?

> They don't want to go to a domain setup for some reason.

>

> Thanks in advance!

I have a simple peer to peer at home with 2 xp pro.s and one home

machine. I did nothing but make a folder called C:\share on each PC

and share it with full permission. Now I can move files to and from

any 'share' folder on any pc.

 

And if you ask, no, I cannot get to the documents and settings of any

PC, as I get a permission denied. I don't care either. I just want to

move files around.

 

And I've shared a few other cute folders like 'photos' and 'software'

and 'downloads' on the main Desktop 500Gig drive for all to play with.

 

But I did nothing special. I think its the guest account getting

used, since I saw something about guest when accessing the 'documents

and settings' folder one day.

 

And I have unique usernames in all 3 machines too.

[Guest jawdoc]

Re: creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer network

 

On May 26, 6:45 pm, Malke <ma...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> jawdoc wrote:

> > I have a question regarding creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer

> > network.  I recently encountered a network that was setup with a peer

> > to peer configuration even though there was a Windows 2003 server on

> > the network.

> > The network was setup by someone else and he created unique usernames

> > and passwords for each node on the network.  My question is, what is

> > the easiest way to allow shares on a machine without adding every user

> > on the network to the machine that needs to share?

> > They don't want to go to a domain setup for some reason.

>

> Use a generic logon.

>

> Malke

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When you say generic account, you mean create an account with the same

name and password on each machine?

[Guest Terry R.]

Re: creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer network

 

The date and time was 5/26/2008 4:57 PM, and on a whim, Big Al pounded

out on the keyboard:

> jawdoc wrote:

>> I have a question regarding creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer

>> network. I recently encountered a network that was setup with a peer

>> to peer configuration even though there was a Windows 2003 server on

>> the network.

>> The network was setup by someone else and he created unique usernames

>> and passwords for each node on the network. My question is, what is

>> the easiest way to allow shares on a machine without adding every user

>> on the network to the machine that needs to share?

>> They don't want to go to a domain setup for some reason.

>>

>> Thanks in advance!

> I have a simple peer to peer at home with 2 xp pro.s and one home

> machine. I did nothing but make a folder called C:\share on each PC

> and share it with full permission. Now I can move files to and from

> any 'share' folder on any pc.

>

> And if you ask, no, I cannot get to the documents and settings of any

> PC, as I get a permission denied. I don't care either. I just want to

> move files around.

 

You can't navigate to the d&s folder using \\computername\C$ ?

>

> And I've shared a few other cute folders like 'photos' and 'software'

> and 'downloads' on the main Desktop 500Gig drive for all to play with.

>

> But I did nothing special. I think its the guest account getting

> used, since I saw something about guest when accessing the 'documents

> and settings' folder one day.

>

> And I have unique usernames in all 3 machines too.

 

 

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[Guest Malke]

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jawdoc wrote:

 

>

> When you say generic account, you mean create an account with the same

> name and password on each machine?

 

If you aren't using a domain controller, yes you will need to create the

same username and password on all machines that need to share resources. If

the only shared resources are on one computer, then you only need to create

the matching user accounts/passwords on that one computer hosting the

resources, not on all the workstations.

 

By a "generic account", I mean that instead of creating 20 different

accounts with users' names (often undesirable anyway because people leave),

use a few generic accounts instead.

 

Examples for a school: Student, Teacher, Tech

 

Examples for a business: Sales, Secretary, Accounting

 

Examples of more generic user accounts but still individual logons for

auditing purposes: User1; User2;User3; Desk12; Desk15, etc.

 

If you gave more details about what you're trying to do, including the

number of computers and users, people could help you more precisely.

 

Malke

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[Guest Terry R.]

Re: creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer network

 

The date and time was 5/27/2008 4:56 AM, and on a whim, Malke pounded

out on the keyboard:

> jawdoc wrote:

>

>

>> When you say generic account, you mean create an account with the same

>> name and password on each machine?

>

> If you aren't using a domain controller, yes you will need to create the

> same username and password on all machines that need to share resources. If

> the only shared resources are on one computer, then you only need to create

> the matching user accounts/passwords on that one computer hosting the

> resources, not on all the workstations.

>

 

This must be a troubleshooting method, correct? I've never had to set

up identical accounts on workstations when setting up shared folders.

 

This particular workstation I work on has shared folders, and none of

the workgroup workstations have logins/passwords that match this one,

but sharing works fine on all of them.

 

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[Guest Big Al]

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Terry R. wrote:

> The date and time was 5/26/2008 4:57 PM, and on a whim, Big Al pounded

> out on the keyboard:

>

>> jawdoc wrote:

>>> I have a question regarding creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer

>>> network. I recently encountered a network that was setup with a peer

>>> to peer configuration even though there was a Windows 2003 server on

>>> the network.

>>> The network was setup by someone else and he created unique usernames

>>> and passwords for each node on the network. My question is, what is

>>> the easiest way to allow shares on a machine without adding every user

>>> on the network to the machine that needs to share?

>>> They don't want to go to a domain setup for some reason.

>>>

>>> Thanks in advance!

>> I have a simple peer to peer at home with 2 xp pro.s and one home

>> machine. I did nothing but make a folder called C:\share on each PC

>> and share it with full permission. Now I can move files to and

>> from any 'share' folder on any pc.

>>

>> And if you ask, no, I cannot get to the documents and settings of any

>> PC, as I get a permission denied. I don't care either. I just want

>> to move files around.

>

> You can't navigate to the d&s folder using \\computername\C$ ?

>

No I can't. And I don't want to. I've probably turned off the C$ D$

etc drive shares. I consider it a security hole.

For my situation, 4 shared folders on one pc and one on the others is

fine. I can move things around. It might take a double move: Pc1 ->

pc2/share -> pc2/goodfolder. But it works. And I don't use it often.

Its a convenience tool.

>>

>> And I've shared a few other cute folders like 'photos' and 'software'

>> and 'downloads' on the main Desktop 500Gig drive for all to play with.

>>

>> But I did nothing special. I think its the guest account getting

>> used, since I saw something about guest when accessing the 'documents

>> and settings' folder one day.

>>

>> And I have unique usernames in all 3 machines too.

>

>

[Guest Malke]

Re: creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer network

 

Terry R. wrote:

 

> This must be a troubleshooting method, correct? I've never had to set

> up identical accounts on workstations when setting up shared folders.

>

> This particular workstation I work on has shared folders, and none of

> the workgroup workstations have logins/passwords that match this one,

> but sharing works fine on all of them.

>

 

Because you're connecting as Guest (which doesn't have anything to do with

the Guest user account you see in Control Panel, which is normally

disabled). You either have Simple File Sharing checked if you're using XP

Pro or you've got XP Home boxen which only connect as Guest.

 

If your method works for you and the lack of security works for you (or you

only have XP Home machines), then great. For most networks with mixed OS

boxen on them, it is necessary to create matching user accounts/passwords

for successful sharing. When people are having difficulties - or need to

set fine-grained permissions and/or restrictions without a domain

controller - the latter is the way to go so authentication (which is always

done locally peer-to-peer) is satisfied.

 

Malke

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[Guest Terry R.]

Re: creating shares on a xp pro peer to peer network

 

The date and time was 5/27/2008 6:53 AM, and on a whim, Malke pounded

out on the keyboard:

> Terry R. wrote:

>

>

>> This must be a troubleshooting method, correct? I've never had to set

>> up identical accounts on workstations when setting up shared folders.

>>

>> This particular workstation I work on has shared folders, and none of

>> the workgroup workstations have logins/passwords that match this one,

>> but sharing works fine on all of them.

>>

>

> Because you're connecting as Guest (which doesn't have anything to do with

> the Guest user account you see in Control Panel, which is normally

> disabled). You either have Simple File Sharing checked if you're using XP

> Pro or you've got XP Home boxen which only connect as Guest.

>

 

SFS is not used on any of the XP Pro workstations. There is one XP Home

box in the mix.

> If your method works for you and the lack of security works for you (or you

> only have XP Home machines), then great. For most networks with mixed OS

> boxen on them, it is necessary to create matching user accounts/passwords

> for successful sharing. When people are having difficulties - or need to

> set fine-grained permissions and/or restrictions without a domain

> controller - the latter is the way to go so authentication (which is always

> done locally peer-to-peer) is satisfied.

>

> Malke

 

 

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