Re: Licensing Clarification - [MSFT], please

[Guest Kevin]

[PLAIN]Re: Licensing Clarification - [MSFT], please[/PLAIN]

 

Vera,

 

I have a similar query for a 2008 TS server I'm setting up. I had read that

licensing is not enforced and am wondering: is the TS Licensing Role Service

is even required at all? Lamaslany's post seems to indicate that you must

still install TS Licensing and install your licenses, but that they won't be

given out and reflected there. Makes me wonder if it's even required to set

up a licensing server.

 

Thanks for the additional clarification.

 

Kevin

 

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?c2hhbmVkaWF6?= <shanediaz@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote on 27 jun 2006 in

> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> >

> >

> > "lamaslany" wrote:

> >

> >> That's the sort of answer I like! :)

> >>

> >> Thanks again.

> >

> > Thanks for all the great clarification regarding Per User

> > Terminal Server CALs in Terminal Server 2003. I have read, and

> > you have also stated here, that Per User 2003 TS CALs are not

> > managed or enforced. I just wanted to get some clarification on

> > exactly what that means.

> >

> > I have installed 5 Per User CALs in Terminal Server Licensing.

> > However, after a couple of days, it is still showing all 5 as

> > available, although I know a couple of people have accessed the

> > terminal server since I installed them and set the my Terminal

> > Server to use Per User mode. Am I correct in understanding that

> > what you are saying is that it will always say that I have 5

> > available although they are being handed out?

> >

> > If that is the case I guess I will just need to take a head

> > count of who is using Terminal Server when I go to "true up"

> > with Microsoft next year? I just want to make sure I have an

> > understanding of how this works so that I don't unexpectedly run

> > into a situation where users are unable to access the Terminal

> > Server.

> >

> > In summary, I am assuming that the Terminal Server will be able

> > to pass out an unlimited number of user CALs as long as I have

> > even one of them installed, and I just have to get a head count

> > and when I true up with Microsoft every year. Does that sound

> > right? Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

>

> Yes, that's exactly how the current situation is.

> The "available" and "issued" count in the TS Licensing Manager will

> continue to show "5" and "N/A" (Not Applicable), irrespective of

> the number of connecting users.

> You have to keep track of the number of connecting users "by hand".

> One way to do this is to add a line to your TS specific logon

> script which stores the username in a logfile. Something like:

>

> echo %username% %clientname% %date% %time% >> logon.log

>

> Or make sure that not every Domain User is by default member of the

> Remote Desktop Users group. Be very strict with membership in this

> group, and make sure that you have as many licenses as group

> members. Of course, the difficult part is to know when users stop

> connecting to the TS!

>

> Or export your Security EventLog on the TS once a month, import it

> in an Excel file and filter on TS Logons.

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

[Guest Ratnesh Yadav [MSFT]]

[PLAIN]Re: Licensing Clarification - [MSFT], please[/PLAIN]

 

Re: Licensing Clarification - [MSFT], please

 

In Windows Server 2008 we have support for Tracking TS Per User CALs. Check

following link for more info

http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/2007/08/06/terminal-services-per-user-licensing-usage-tracking.aspx

So in Windows Server 2008, Per User CALs are issued and can me tracked.

 

True, TS Per User mode is not enforced, but still customer are required to

buy TS CALs inorder to align with EULA.

 

You need to install License Server, as after the grace period if TS does not

find a License Server, it will not allow connections.

 

Ratnesh

 

"Kevin" <Kevin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:EF3E597D-8B06-48F7-99AC-E9CD0E2E1076@microsoft.com...

> Vera,

>

> I have a similar query for a 2008 TS server I'm setting up. I had read

> that

> licensing is not enforced and am wondering: is the TS Licensing Role

> Service

> is even required at all? Lamaslany's post seems to indicate that you must

> still install TS Licensing and install your licenses, but that they won't

> be

> given out and reflected there. Makes me wonder if it's even required to

> set

> up a licensing server.

>

> Thanks for the additional clarification.

>

> Kevin

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>

>> =?Utf-8?B?c2hhbmVkaWF6?= <shanediaz@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> wrote on 27 jun 2006 in

>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>> >

>> >

>> > "lamaslany" wrote:

>> >

>> >> That's the sort of answer I like! :)

>> >>

>> >> Thanks again.

>> >

>> > Thanks for all the great clarification regarding Per User

>> > Terminal Server CALs in Terminal Server 2003. I have read, and

>> > you have also stated here, that Per User 2003 TS CALs are not

>> > managed or enforced. I just wanted to get some clarification on

>> > exactly what that means.

>> >

>> > I have installed 5 Per User CALs in Terminal Server Licensing.

>> > However, after a couple of days, it is still showing all 5 as

>> > available, although I know a couple of people have accessed the

>> > terminal server since I installed them and set the my Terminal

>> > Server to use Per User mode. Am I correct in understanding that

>> > what you are saying is that it will always say that I have 5

>> > available although they are being handed out?

>> >

>> > If that is the case I guess I will just need to take a head

>> > count of who is using Terminal Server when I go to "true up"

>> > with Microsoft next year? I just want to make sure I have an

>> > understanding of how this works so that I don't unexpectedly run

>> > into a situation where users are unable to access the Terminal

>> > Server.

>> >

>> > In summary, I am assuming that the Terminal Server will be able

>> > to pass out an unlimited number of user CALs as long as I have

>> > even one of them installed, and I just have to get a head count

>> > and when I true up with Microsoft every year. Does that sound

>> > right? Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

>>

>> Yes, that's exactly how the current situation is.

>> The "available" and "issued" count in the TS Licensing Manager will

>> continue to show "5" and "N/A" (Not Applicable), irrespective of

>> the number of connecting users.

>> You have to keep track of the number of connecting users "by hand".

>> One way to do this is to add a line to your TS specific logon

>> script which stores the username in a logfile. Something like:

>>

>> echo %username% %clientname% %date% %time% >> logon.log

>>

>> Or make sure that not every Domain User is by default member of the

>> Remote Desktop Users group. Be very strict with membership in this

>> group, and make sure that you have as many licenses as group

>> members. Of course, the difficult part is to know when users stop

>> connecting to the TS!

>>

>> Or export your Security EventLog on the TS once a month, import it

>> in an Excel file and filter on TS Logons.

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>

[Guest Kevin]

[PLAIN]Re: Licensing Clarification - [MSFT], please[/PLAIN]

 

Re: Licensing Clarification - [MSFT], please

 

Thanks for clarifying Ratnesh.

 

"Ratnesh Yadav [MSFT]" wrote:

> In Windows Server 2008 we have support for Tracking TS Per User CALs. Check

> following link for more info

> http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/2007/08/06/terminal-services-per-user-licensing-usage-tracking.aspx

> So in Windows Server 2008, Per User CALs are issued and can me tracked.

>

> True, TS Per User mode is not enforced, but still customer are required to

> buy TS CALs inorder to align with EULA.

>

> You need to install License Server, as after the grace period if TS does not

> find a License Server, it will not allow connections.

>

> Ratnesh

>

> "Kevin" <Kevin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:EF3E597D-8B06-48F7-99AC-E9CD0E2E1076@microsoft.com...

> > Vera,

> >

> > I have a similar query for a 2008 TS server I'm setting up. I had read

> > that

> > licensing is not enforced and am wondering: is the TS Licensing Role

> > Service

> > is even required at all? Lamaslany's post seems to indicate that you must

> > still install TS Licensing and install your licenses, but that they won't

> > be

> > given out and reflected there. Makes me wonder if it's even required to

> > set

> > up a licensing server.

> >

> > Thanks for the additional clarification.

> >

> > Kevin

> >

> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> =?Utf-8?B?c2hhbmVkaWF6?= <shanediaz@discussions.microsoft.com>

> >> wrote on 27 jun 2006 in

> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > "lamaslany" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> That's the sort of answer I like! :)

> >> >>

> >> >> Thanks again.

> >> >

> >> > Thanks for all the great clarification regarding Per User

> >> > Terminal Server CALs in Terminal Server 2003. I have read, and

> >> > you have also stated here, that Per User 2003 TS CALs are not

> >> > managed or enforced. I just wanted to get some clarification on

> >> > exactly what that means.

> >> >

> >> > I have installed 5 Per User CALs in Terminal Server Licensing.

> >> > However, after a couple of days, it is still showing all 5 as

> >> > available, although I know a couple of people have accessed the

> >> > terminal server since I installed them and set the my Terminal

> >> > Server to use Per User mode. Am I correct in understanding that

> >> > what you are saying is that it will always say that I have 5

> >> > available although they are being handed out?

> >> >

> >> > If that is the case I guess I will just need to take a head

> >> > count of who is using Terminal Server when I go to "true up"

> >> > with Microsoft next year? I just want to make sure I have an

> >> > understanding of how this works so that I don't unexpectedly run

> >> > into a situation where users are unable to access the Terminal

> >> > Server.

> >> >

> >> > In summary, I am assuming that the Terminal Server will be able

> >> > to pass out an unlimited number of user CALs as long as I have

> >> > even one of them installed, and I just have to get a head count

> >> > and when I true up with Microsoft every year. Does that sound

> >> > right? Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

> >>

> >> Yes, that's exactly how the current situation is.

> >> The "available" and "issued" count in the TS Licensing Manager will

> >> continue to show "5" and "N/A" (Not Applicable), irrespective of

> >> the number of connecting users.

> >> You have to keep track of the number of connecting users "by hand".

> >> One way to do this is to add a line to your TS specific logon

> >> script which stores the username in a logfile. Something like:

> >>

> >> echo %username% %clientname% %date% %time% >> logon.log

> >>

> >> Or make sure that not every Domain User is by default member of the

> >> Remote Desktop Users group. Be very strict with membership in this

> >> group, and make sure that you have as many licenses as group

> >> members. Of course, the difficult part is to know when users stop

> >> connecting to the TS!

> >>

> >> Or export your Security EventLog on the TS once a month, import it

> >> in an Excel file and filter on TS Logons.

> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> Vera Noest

> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> >>

>