How do I open WIndows Mixer?

[Guest randwill]

I am trying to record some old vinyl records using a USB turntable and

software called Cakewalk Pyro. It works okay but some records top out too

loud. Supposedly I can adjust the recording volume using Windows Mixer.

When I click on "Open Windows Mixer" from within Pyro I get the message:

"There is a problem with your sound hardware. To install mixer devices go to

Control Panels, click Printers and Other Hardware and click Add Hardware."

Since I'm not trying to add any new hardware, only open Windows Mixer, I

don't know what to do. Any suggestions?

[Guest Patrick Keenan]

Re: How do I open WIndows Mixer?

 

"randwill" <rwilliams4254@triad.rr.com> wrote in message

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> I am trying to record some old vinyl records using a USB turntable and

> software called Cakewalk Pyro. It works okay but some records top out too

> loud. Supposedly I can adjust the recording volume using Windows Mixer.

> When I click on "Open Windows Mixer" from within Pyro I get the message:

> "There is a problem with your sound hardware. To install mixer devices go

> to Control Panels, click Printers and Other Hardware and click Add

> Hardware." Since I'm not trying to add any new hardware, only open Windows

> Mixer, I don't know what to do. Any suggestions?

 

The mixer is tied to the hardware drivers. You should follow the steps, as

your audio hardware may not be properly installed.

 

Usually the executable for the Windows Mixer, which is a set of volume

controls, is "sndvol32". It's also called Volume Control, and if you make

a shortcut of the command "sndvol32 /r" (note the space before the /) it

will come up in recording mode, as opposed to the default playback mode.

 

HTH

-pk

 

HTH

[Guest randwill]

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"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message

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?

>

> The mixer is tied to the hardware drivers. You should follow the steps,

> as your audio hardware may not be properly installed.

>

> Usually the executable for the Windows Mixer, which is a set of volume

> controls, is "sndvol32". It's also called Volume Control, and if you

> make a shortcut of the command "sndvol32 /r" (note the space before the

> /) it will come up in recording mode, as opposed to the default playback

> mode.

>

> HTH

> -pk

>

> HTH

>

 

I clicked Add Hardware. The Hardware Update Wizard shows a yellow question

mark next to Multimedia Audio Controller. It searched and found no

software. What next?

[Guest Patrick Keenan]

Re: How do I open WIndows Mixer?

 

"randwill" <rwilliams4254@triad.rr.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message

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> ?

>>

>> The mixer is tied to the hardware drivers. You should follow the steps,

>> as your audio hardware may not be properly installed.

>>

>> Usually the executable for the Windows Mixer, which is a set of volume

>> controls, is "sndvol32". It's also called Volume Control, and if you

>> make a shortcut of the command "sndvol32 /r" (note the space before the

>> /) it will come up in recording mode, as opposed to the default playback

>> mode.

>>

>> HTH

>> -pk

>>

>> HTH

>

>>

>

> I clicked Add Hardware. The Hardware Update Wizard shows a yellow question

> mark next to Multimedia Audio Controller. It searched and found no

> software. What next?

 

Well, that does explain why the mixer doesn't open. For that particular

error to appear, it's most likely that the chipset driver, which runs below

the soundcard driver itself, is either not installed or is corrupt.

 

You need to install those drivers, but exactly how you do that depends on

your PC, specifically the motherboard in use. If you have a premade system,

like a Dell or HP or whatever, go to their support site. If your system

was built otherwise, determine the motherboard make and model and revision

(this is silk-screened on the board, so you can just open the case and look)

and go to the board maker's site and download the drivers and install them.

 

You may have a driver CD that came with your system, which will make the

task easier, too.

 

HTH

-pk

[Guest randwill]

Re: How do I open WIndows Mixer?

 

 

"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message

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>

> Well, that does explain why the mixer doesn't open. For that particular

> error to appear, it's most likely that the chipset driver, which runs

> below the soundcard driver itself, is either not installed or is corrupt.

>

> You need to install those drivers, but exactly how you do that depends on

> your PC, specifically the motherboard in use. If you have a premade

> system, like a Dell or HP or whatever, go to their support site. If

> your system was built otherwise, determine the motherboard make and model

> and revision (this is silk-screened on the board, so you can just open the

> case and look) and go to the board maker's site and download the drivers

> and install them.

>

> You may have a driver CD that came with your system, which will make the

> task easier, too.

>

> HTH

> -pk

>

>

 

How do I identify what the needed "chipset driver" is? Downloads for my

motherboard are here:

 

http://www.soyo.com/content/Technical%20Support%20Downloads/155/&c=27&p=154&l=English

 

Two of the listed drivers have the word "audio" in them, but I don't know

which one or if either is what I need to install to correct my problem.

 

Thanks for the help.

[Guest randwill]

Re: How do I open WIndows Mixer?

 

 

"randwill" <rwilliams4254@triad.rr.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message

> news:uQ47WQDwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>

>> Well, that does explain why the mixer doesn't open. For that

>> particular error to appear, it's most likely that the chipset driver,

>> which runs below the soundcard driver itself, is either not installed or

>> is corrupt.

>>

>> You need to install those drivers, but exactly how you do that depends on

>> your PC, specifically the motherboard in use. If you have a premade

>> system, like a Dell or HP or whatever, go to their support site. If

>> your system was built otherwise, determine the motherboard make and model

>> and revision (this is silk-screened on the board, so you can just open

>> the case and look) and go to the board maker's site and download the

>> drivers and install them.

>>

>> You may have a driver CD that came with your system, which will make the

>> task easier, too.

>>

>> HTH

>> -pk

 

I installed the C-MEDIA Audio Driver for Win 98SE/ME/2000/XP ver:039 as this

is a newer version of a driver I also found on the disc that came with the

motherboard. When I run Hardware Update Wizard there is no longer a

Multimedia Audio Controller with a yellow question mark next to it.

 

But I still can't control the volume when recording in Pyro.

 

Pyro's instructions, that appear in a "Recording Help" window, tell me:

To view the Recording Controls:

 

1.. Click the Options menu and select Properties.

2.. The Properties dialog appears

1.. In the Adjust Volume For section of the Properties dialog, select the

Recording radio button.

2.. In the Show the Following Volume Controls section, the Line-in and

Microphone options should be checked. If they are not, check them.

3.. Click OK.

4.. The Recording Controls now appear in the Windows Mixer.

5.. Check the input you want to use, either Line In or Microphone

--- end of Pyro instruction quote ---

 

The trouble must be that I don't have a "Line In" in that box. I have only;

MIDI Synth,

"What U Hear", S/PDIF-In, CD Digital, Analog Mix (Line/CD/Aux/TAD/PC),

Microphone and Wave. I checked them all to make all the Volume faders

available but when I record in Pyro, moving the faders on any of these has

no effect on the volume.

 

So Pyro needs a "Line In" Volume Controller and I don't have one. How do I

get one?

[Guest dadiOH]

Re: How do I open WIndows Mixer?

 

randwill wrote:

> "randwill" <rwilliams4254@triad.rr.com> wrote in message

> news:Pu__j.314879$qg2.47375@fe08.news.easynews.com...

>>

>> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message

>> news:uQ47WQDwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> Well, that does explain why the mixer doesn't open. For that

>>> particular error to appear, it's most likely that the chipset

>>> driver, which runs below the soundcard driver itself, is either

>>> not installed or is corrupt.

>>>

>>> You need to install those drivers, but exactly how you do that

>>> depends on your PC, specifically the motherboard in use. If you

>>> have a premade system, like a Dell or HP or whatever, go to their

>>> support site. If your system was built otherwise, determine the

>>> motherboard make and model and revision (this is silk-screened on

>>> the board, so you can just open the case and look) and go to the

>>> board maker's site and download the drivers and install them.

>>>

>>> You may have a driver CD that came with your system, which will

>>> make the task easier, too.

>>>

>>> HTH

>>> -pk

>

> I installed the C-MEDIA Audio Driver for Win 98SE/ME/2000/XP ver:039

> as this is a newer version of a driver I also found on the disc that

> came with the motherboard. When I run Hardware Update Wizard there

> is no longer a Multimedia Audio Controller with a yellow question

> mark next to it.

> But I still can't control the volume when recording in Pyro.

>

> Pyro's instructions, that appear in a "Recording Help" window, tell

> me: To view the Recording Controls:

>

> 1.. Click the Options menu and select Properties.

> 2.. The Properties dialog appears

> 1.. In the Adjust Volume For section of the Properties dialog,

> select the Recording radio button.

> 2.. In the Show the Following Volume Controls section, the Line-in

> and Microphone options should be checked. If they are not, check them.

> 3.. Click OK.

> 4.. The Recording Controls now appear in the Windows Mixer.

> 5.. Check the input you want to use, either Line In or Microphone

> --- end of Pyro instruction quote ---

>

> The trouble must be that I don't have a "Line In" in that box. I have

> only; MIDI Synth,

> "What U Hear", S/PDIF-In, CD Digital, Analog Mix (Line/CD/Aux/TAD/PC),

> Microphone and Wave. I checked them all to make all the Volume faders

> available but when I record in Pyro, moving the faders on any of

> these has no effect on the volume.

>

> So Pyro needs a "Line In" Volume Controller and I don't have one. How

> do I get one?

 

"What U Hear" should work. If not...

 

1. Open the volule comtrol applet

2. Options

3. Properties

4. Tick "Recording"

5. In the window titled "Show the following sound contreols" tick "Line-in"

6. OK

 

 

--

 

dadiOH

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[Guest Patrick Keenan]

Re: How do I open WIndows Mixer?

 

"randwill" <rwilliams4254@triad.rr.com> wrote in message

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>

> "randwill" <rwilliams4254@triad.rr.com> wrote in message

> news:Pu__j.314879$qg2.47375@fe08.news.easynews.com...

>>

>> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message

>> news:uQ47WQDwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> Well, that does explain why the mixer doesn't open. For that

>>> particular error to appear, it's most likely that the chipset driver,

>>> which runs below the soundcard driver itself, is either not installed

>>> or is corrupt.

>>>

>>> You need to install those drivers, but exactly how you do that depends

>>> on your PC, specifically the motherboard in use. If you have a premade

>>> system, like a Dell or HP or whatever, go to their support site. If

>>> your system was built otherwise, determine the motherboard make and

>>> model and revision (this is silk-screened on the board, so you can just

>>> open the case and look) and go to the board maker's site and download

>>> the drivers and install them.

>>>

>>> You may have a driver CD that came with your system, which will make the

>>> task easier, too.

>>>

>>> HTH

>>> -pk

>

> I installed the C-MEDIA Audio Driver for Win 98SE/ME/2000/XP ver:039 as

> this is a newer version of a driver I also found on the disc that came

> with the motherboard. When I run Hardware Update Wizard there is no

> longer a Multimedia Audio Controller with a yellow question mark next to

> it.

 

Well, the soundcard is installed properly now.

 

> But I still can't control the volume when recording in Pyro.

>

> Pyro's instructions, that appear in a "Recording Help" window, tell me:

> To view the Recording Controls:

>

> 1.. Click the Options menu and select Properties.

> 2.. The Properties dialog appears

> 1.. In the Adjust Volume For section of the Properties dialog, select the

> Recording radio button.

> 2.. In the Show the Following Volume Controls section, the Line-in and

> Microphone options should be checked. If they are not, check them.

> 3.. Click OK.

> 4.. The Recording Controls now appear in the Windows Mixer.

> 5.. Check the input you want to use, either Line In or Microphone

> --- end of Pyro instruction quote ---

>

> The trouble must be that I don't have a "Line In" in that box. I have

> only; MIDI Synth,

> "What U Hear", S/PDIF-In, CD Digital, Analog Mix (Line/CD/Aux/TAD/PC),

> Microphone and Wave. I checked them all to make all the Volume faders

> available but when I record in Pyro, moving the faders on any of these has

> no effect on the volume.

>

> So Pyro needs a "Line In" Volume Controller and I don't have one. How do I

> get one?

 

I'd check with the Cakewalk and turntable support, but also, some other

things.

 

Be sure that the drivers for the USB turntable are installed properly and

that if necessary it is set as the sound input source in Control Panel. It

may come with a volume control applet and that may be what you should be

adjusting - that would explain why none of the other volume controls affect

it.

 

Try downloading Audacity and recording there, and seeing how it responds to

volume changes with the various applets. It has its own mixer section,

which is more sophisticated than Window's. Audacity also has some vinyl

restoration plugins available, IIRC.

 

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

 

HTH

-pk

[Guest randwill]

Re: How do I open WIndows Mixer?

 

 

"dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message

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> randwill wrote:

>> "randwill" <rwilliams4254@triad.rr.com> wrote in message

>> news:Pu__j.314879$qg2.47375@fe08.news.easynews.com...

>>>

>>> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message

>>> news:uQ47WQDwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>> Well, that does explain why the mixer doesn't open. For that

>>>> particular error to appear, it's most likely that the chipset

>>>> driver, which runs below the soundcard driver itself, is either

>>>> not installed or is corrupt.

>>>>

>>>> You need to install those drivers, but exactly how you do that

>>>> depends on your PC, specifically the motherboard in use. If you

>>>> have a premade system, like a Dell or HP or whatever, go to their

>>>> support site. If your system was built otherwise, determine the

>>>> motherboard make and model and revision (this is silk-screened on

>>>> the board, so you can just open the case and look) and go to the

>>>> board maker's site and download the drivers and install them.

>>>>

>>>> You may have a driver CD that came with your system, which will

>>>> make the task easier, too.

>>>>

>>>> HTH

>>>> -pk

>>

>> I installed the C-MEDIA Audio Driver for Win 98SE/ME/2000/XP ver:039

>> as this is a newer version of a driver I also found on the disc that

>> came with the motherboard. When I run Hardware Update Wizard there

>> is no longer a Multimedia Audio Controller with a yellow question

>> mark next to it.

>> But I still can't control the volume when recording in Pyro.

>>

>> Pyro's instructions, that appear in a "Recording Help" window, tell

>> me: To view the Recording Controls:

>>

>> 1.. Click the Options menu and select Properties.

>> 2.. The Properties dialog appears

>> 1.. In the Adjust Volume For section of the Properties dialog,

>> select the Recording radio button.

>> 2.. In the Show the Following Volume Controls section, the Line-in

>> and Microphone options should be checked. If they are not, check them.

>> 3.. Click OK.

>> 4.. The Recording Controls now appear in the Windows Mixer.

>> 5.. Check the input you want to use, either Line In or Microphone

>> --- end of Pyro instruction quote ---

>>

>> The trouble must be that I don't have a "Line In" in that box. I have

>> only; MIDI Synth,

>> "What U Hear", S/PDIF-In, CD Digital, Analog Mix (Line/CD/Aux/TAD/PC),

>> Microphone and Wave. I checked them all to make all the Volume faders

>> available but when I record in Pyro, moving the faders on any of

>> these has no effect on the volume.

>>

>> So Pyro needs a "Line In" Volume Controller and I don't have one. How

>> do I get one?

>

> "What U Hear" should work. If not...

>

> 1. Open the volule comtrol applet

> 2. Options

> 3. Properties

> 4. Tick "Recording"

> 5. In the window titled "Show the following sound contreols" tick

> "Line-in"

> 6. OK

>

>

> --

>

> dadiOH

 

 

But I don't have a "Line In" to tick in that box, just the ones I listed.

 

If I open the Creative Volume Control, the sound card's software, I see a

"Record" fader there. It has a drop down menu that contains the same list -

MIDI Synth, "What U Hear", S/PDIF-In, CD Digital, Analog Mix

(Line/CD/Aux/TAD/PC), Microphone and Wave - that I see in the Windows

Recording Control > Properties > Show the following volume controls box.

Have the choices that Windows is suppose to offer, including the needed

"Line In", in that box been displaced by these choices that correspond with

the sound cards volume control software?

[Guest dadiOH]

Re: How do I open WIndows Mixer?

 

randwill wrote:

>>> I installed the C-MEDIA Audio Driver for Win 98SE/ME/2000/XP ver:039

>>> as this is a newer version of a driver I also found on the disc that

>>> came with the motherboard. When I run Hardware Update Wizard there

>>> is no longer a Multimedia Audio Controller with a yellow question

>>> mark next to it.

>>> But I still can't control the volume when recording in Pyro.

>>>

>>> Pyro's instructions, that appear in a "Recording Help" window, tell

>>> me: To view the Recording Controls:

>>>

>>> 1.. Click the Options menu and select Properties.

>>> 2.. The Properties dialog appears

>>> 1.. In the Adjust Volume For section of the Properties dialog,

>>> select the Recording radio button.

>>> 2.. In the Show the Following Volume Controls section, the Line-in

>>> and Microphone options should be checked. If they are not, check

>>> them. 3.. Click OK.

>>> 4.. The Recording Controls now appear in the Windows Mixer.

>>> 5.. Check the input you want to use, either Line In or Microphone

>>> --- end of Pyro instruction quote ---

>>>

>>> The trouble must be that I don't have a "Line In" in that box. I

>>> have only; MIDI Synth,

>>> "What U Hear", S/PDIF-In, CD Digital, Analog Mix

>>> (Line/CD/Aux/TAD/PC), Microphone and Wave. I checked them all to

>>> make all the Volume faders available but when I record in Pyro,

>>> moving the faders on any of these has no effect on the volume.

>>>

>>> So Pyro needs a "Line In" Volume Controller and I don't have one.

>>> How do I get one?

>>

>> "What U Hear" should work. If not...

>>

>> 1. Open the volule comtrol applet

>> 2. Options

>> 3. Properties

>> 4. Tick "Recording"

>> 5. In the window titled "Show the following sound contreols" tick

>> "Line-in"

>> 6. OK

>>

>>

>> --

>>

>> dadiOH

>

>

> But I don't have a "Line In" to tick in that box, just the ones I

> listed.

> If I open the Creative Volume Control, the sound card's software, I

> see a "Record" fader there. It has a drop down menu that contains the

> same list - MIDI Synth, "What U Hear", S/PDIF-In, CD Digital, Analog

> Mix (Line/CD/Aux/TAD/PC), Microphone and Wave - that I see in the

> Windows Recording Control > Properties > Show the following volume

> controls box. Have the choices that Windows is suppose to offer,

> including the needed "Line In", in that box been displaced by these

> choices that correspond with the sound cards volume control software?

 

What the Windows program shows you is what is available via your sound card

and that varies card to card. Your "Creative Volume Control" shows you the

exact same thing and is, in fact, the same thing...make a change with one

program and it will also be displayed by the other program.

 

As I said before, use "What U Hear". You do NOT need a channel specifically

named "Line in". The "Analog Mix" seems like it should work too.

 

--

 

dadiOH

____________________________

 

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

[Guest randwill]

Re: How do I open WIndows Mixer?

 

 

"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message

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>

> I'd check with the Cakewalk and turntable support, but also, some other

> things.

>

> Be sure that the drivers for the USB turntable are installed properly and

> that if necessary it is set as the sound input source in Control Panel.

> It may come with a volume control applet and that may be what you should

> be adjusting - that would explain why none of the other volume controls

> affect it.

>

> Try downloading Audacity and recording there, and seeing how it responds

> to volume changes with the various applets. It has its own mixer

> section, which is more sophisticated than Window's. Audacity also has

> some vinyl restoration plugins available, IIRC.

>

> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

>

> HTH

> -pk

>

>

 

The turntable came with Cakewalk Pyro and I followed the setup instructions

to the letter including the necessary changes in Sounds and Audio Devices

Properties. There are no drivers needed for the turntable.

 

After some experimenting I've decided that the volume can't be controlled

when using the turntable's USB connection and connecting to the computer's

USB input.

 

The turntable also has an RCA output cable coming from it. I plugged the red

and whites into a Y adapter mini-plug and stuck that into the sound card's

input. With the turntable now going straight into the sound card the volume

CAN be controlled with Windows Mixer.

 

I thought the whole point of the device was that it was a *USB turntable*,

but if you can't use Windows Mixer when it's hooked up that way, what the

heck?!