Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

[Guest Discoduck]

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I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

[Guest Discoduck]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

On May 27, 5:32 pm, Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> x-no-archive:

> I read a terrific idea, online.  That is after reformatting your hard

> drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

> system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

> do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process.  Excellent idea.

> But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

 

I should be a little more specific. I think it is easy to create an

image of the hard drive (to an external). But how would you mount

that image BACK onto your hard drive, given in theory the operating

system and the program used to create the image, will be wiped clean

through formatting?

[Guest GreenieLeBrun]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

 

 

Discoduck wrote:

> x-no-archive:

> I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

> drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

> system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

> do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

> But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

 

Investigate Acronis True Image

 

http://www.acronis.com.au/homecomputing/products/trueimage/?source=au_google&ad=ati&gclid=CPaXqcCCyJMCFSMYagoddAjqjA

 

There are others as well eg Symantic Ghost, Paragon

(http://www.paragon-software.com/) etc.

[Guest Big Al]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

Discoduck wrote:

> x-no-archive:

> I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

> drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

> system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

> do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

> But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

 

I did just this on 4/29 when SP3 was available.

I formatted, loaded my OEM, installed drivers, downloaded SP3, IE7,

WMP11, updates, setup some software, did some custom configuration,

setup email etc.

Then used Acronis True Image to make an image.

I got the image down to 4.3 gig so it will fit on a DVD.

 

I also had Acronis make the restore CD.

 

Now in practice I should be able to boot off of the ATI recovery CD, and

load the image off of the DVD. If the DVD does not work then the

image will just have to be copied to my external HD and loaded from there.

 

Either way I wind up with a virgin system about 8 hours old with minimal

software etc. Ready to be screwed up again.... :-)

[Guest Anna]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

 

"Discoduck" <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote in message

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On May 27, 5:32 pm, Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> x-no-archive:

> I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

> drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

> system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

> do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

> But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

 

I should be a little more specific. I think it is easy to create an

image of the hard drive (to an external). But how would you mount

that image BACK onto your hard drive, given in theory the operating

system and the program used to create the image, will be wiped clean

through formatting?

 

 

Discoduck:

The disk-imaging program, e.g., Acronis True Image, allows one to create a

"Startup Disk" - in effect a bootable CD that contains the disk-imaging

program. So the user would use that media in the situation you referred to.

Anna

[Guest Discoduck]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

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On May 27, 6:28 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:

> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>

> news:2265b5e7-34be-4a52-8435-3ac5004bb09e@b5g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

> On May 27, 5:32 pm, Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>

> > x-no-archive:

> > I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

> > drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

> > system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

> > do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

> > But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

>

> I should be a little more specific.  I think it is easy to create an

> image of the hard drive (to an external).  But how would you mount

> that image BACK onto your hard drive, given in theory the operating

> system and the program used to create the image, will be wiped clean

> through formatting?

>

> Discoduck:

> The disk-imaging program, e.g., Acronis True Image, allows one to create a

> "Startup Disk" - in effect a bootable CD that contains the disk-imaging

> program. So the user would use that media in the situation you referred to..

> Anna

 

I see.

So I would have to do something like this (assuming back up of data

already done)

1) Format hard drive

2) reinstall XP, driver and all updates (any software I choose (ie

office))

3) install True image

4) Create image using True Image (on DVD or to external).

 

The should do it, right? Then when I choose to reformat again, I can

simply:

1) reformat hard drive

2) insert bootable DVD (create by True image) or attach external hard

drive with back up image?

 

On track (ish)?

[Guest Anna]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

> On May 27, 5:32 pm, Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> > I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

> > drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

> > system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

> > do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

> > But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

>

> I should be a little more specific. I think it is easy to create an

> image of the hard drive (to an external). But how would you mount

> that image BACK onto your hard drive, given in theory the operating

> system and the program used to create the image, will be wiped clean

> through formatting?

 

 

On May 27, 6:28 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:

> Discoduck:

> The disk-imaging program, e.g., Acronis True Image, allows one to create a

> "Startup Disk" - in effect a bootable CD that contains the disk-imaging

> program. So the user would use that media in the situation you referred

> to.

> Anna

 

 

"Discoduck" <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:6673c2ba-e303-41af-8591-48b192eb0ab5@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

I see.

So I would have to do something like this (assuming back up of data

already done)

1) Format hard drive

2) reinstall XP, driver and all updates (any software I choose (ie

office))

3) install True image

4) Create image using True Image (on DVD or to external).

 

The should do it, right? Then when I choose to reformat again, I can

simply:

1) reformat hard drive

2) insert bootable DVD (create by True image) or attach external hard

drive with back up image?

 

On track (ish)?

 

 

Well, not exactly...

 

Let's say, using your example, you have used the ATI program to backup your

system by creating a disk image of the system and storing that disk image

onto

your USB external HDD.

 

Now your day-to-day working internal HDD, your "source" HDD, becomes

defective and unbootable. Obviously the ATI program that you had installed

on that HDD is "gone with the wind".

 

So you install a new HDD - it need not be partitioned/formatted since that

will be taken care of through the disk-cloning operation involving cloning

the contents of the USBEHD to the new HDD. To do this you would simply boot

to the "Startup Disk" CD (what Acronis calls its "Bootable Rescue Media")

inserted in the USBEHD and proceed with the disk-cloning operation.

Anna

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

Anna wrote:

>> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>> On May 27, 5:32 pm, Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>>> I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

>>> drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

>>> system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

>>> do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

>>> But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

>>

>> I should be a little more specific. I think it is easy to create an

>> image of the hard drive (to an external). But how would you mount

>> that image BACK onto your hard drive, given in theory the operating

>> system and the program used to create the image, will be wiped clean

>> through formatting?

>

>

> On May 27, 6:28 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:

>> Discoduck:

>> The disk-imaging program, e.g., Acronis True Image, allows one to create

>> a

>> "Startup Disk" - in effect a bootable CD that contains the disk-imaging

>> program. So the user would use that media in the situation you referred

>> to.

>> Anna

>

>

> "Discoduck" <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote in message

> news:6673c2ba-e303-41af-8591-48b192eb0ab5@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

> I see.

> So I would have to do something like this (assuming back up of data

> already done)

> 1) Format hard drive

> 2) reinstall XP, driver and all updates (any software I choose (ie

> office))

> 3) install True image

> 4) Create image using True Image (on DVD or to external).

>

> The should do it, right? Then when I choose to reformat again, I can

> simply:

> 1) reformat hard drive

> 2) insert bootable DVD (create by True image) or attach external hard

> drive with back up image?

>

> On track (ish)?

>

>

> Well, not exactly...

>

> Let's say, using your example, you have used the ATI program to backup

> your

> system by creating a disk image of the system and storing that disk image

> onto your USB external HDD.

>

> Now your day-to-day working internal HDD, your "source" HDD, becomes

> defective and unbootable. Obviously the ATI program that you had installed

> on that HDD is "gone with the wind".

>

> So you install a new HDD - it need not be partitioned/formatted since that

> will be taken care of through the disk-cloning operation involving cloning

> the contents of the USBEHD to the new HDD. To do this you would simply

> boot

> to the "Startup Disk" CD (what Acronis calls its "Bootable Rescue Media")

> inserted in the USBEHD and proceed with the disk-cloning operation.

> Anna

 

"Disk cloning", or "restoring the backup image"??? I think it's called

the latter (if imaging was originally used, as he said), but the end result

may be the same. :-)

[Guest Discoduck]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

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On May 27, 9:13 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:

> > "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

> > On May 27, 5:32 pm, Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> > > I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

> > > drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

> > > system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

> > > do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

> > > But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

>

> > I should be a little more specific. I think it is easy to create an

> > image of the hard drive (to an external). But how would you mount

> > that image BACK onto your hard drive, given in theory the operating

> > system and the program used to create the image, will be wiped clean

> > through formatting?

>

> On May 27, 6:28 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:

>

> > Discoduck:

> > The disk-imaging program, e.g., Acronis True Image, allows one to create a

> > "Startup Disk" - in effect a bootable CD that contains the disk-imaging

> > program. So the user would use that media in the situation you referred

> > to.

> > Anna

> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>

> news:6673c2ba-e303-41af-8591-48b192eb0ab5@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

> I see.

> So I would have to do something like this (assuming back up of data

> already done)

> 1) Format hard drive

> 2) reinstall XP, driver and all updates (any software I choose (ie

> office))

> 3) install True image

> 4) Create image using True Image (on DVD or to external).

>

> The should do it, right?  Then when I choose to reformat again, I can

> simply:

> 1) reformat hard drive

> 2) insert bootable DVD (create by True image) or attach external hard

> drive with back up image?

>

> On track (ish)?

>

> Well, not exactly...

>

> Let's say, using your example, you have used the ATI program to backup your

> system by creating a disk image of the system and storing that disk image

> onto

> your USB external HDD.

>

> Now your day-to-day working internal HDD, your "source" HDD, becomes

> defective and unbootable. Obviously the ATI program that you had installed

> on that HDD is "gone with the wind".

>

> So you install a new HDD - it need not be partitioned/formatted since that

> will be taken care of through the disk-cloning operation involving cloning

> the contents of the USBEHD to the new HDD. To do this you would simply boot

> to the "Startup Disk" CD (what Acronis calls its "Bootable Rescue Media")

> inserted in the USBEHD and proceed with the disk-cloning operation.

> Anna

 

Mmm, I'm getting lost (easy to do). What do I do?

 

My objective is simply to save the future hassle of reinstalling the

OS and all it's updates, whenever I reformat my Hard drive. What

steps would be required? If not too much trouble to ask (using True

Image).

[Guest Nonny]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

On Wed, 28 May 2008 00:13:51 -0400, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote:

>Let's say, using your example, you have used the ATI program to backup your

>system by creating a disk image of the system and storing that disk image

>onto your USB external HDD.

>

>Now your day-to-day working internal HDD, your "source" HDD, becomes

>defective and unbootable. Obviously the ATI program that you had installed

>on that HDD is "gone with the wind".

>

>So you install a new HDD - it need not be partitioned/formatted since that

>will be taken care of through the disk-cloning operation involving cloning

>the contents of the USBEHD to the new HDD. To do this you would simply boot

>to the "Startup Disk" CD (what Acronis calls its "Bootable Rescue Media")

>inserted in the USBEHD and proceed with the disk-cloning operation.

 

Yup.

 

Once the image has been restored to the new HD, everything - including

Acronis True Image - is there, ready to use.

[Guest Xandros]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

Go here http://www.acronis.com

 

 

--

 

Xandros

 

 

"Discoduck" <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote in message

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> x-no-archive:

> I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

> drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

> system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

> do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

> But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

[Guest Discoduck]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

x-no-archive:

> Yup.

>

> Once the image has been restored to the new HD, everything - including

> Acronis True Image - is there, ready to use.

 

But how will the PC read the external HD or DVD if no OS is there?

I'm seeing it as a "chicken/egg" thing.

[Guest Nonny]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:38:00 -0700 (PDT), Discoduck

<fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote:

>> Once the image has been restored to the new HD, everything - including

>> Acronis True Image - is there, ready to use.

>

>But how will the PC read the external HD or DVD if no OS is there?

>I'm seeing it as a "chicken/egg" thing.

 

You create a bootable CD using Acronis True Image. That bootable CD

has a full working linux version of Acronis True Image.

 

You merely boot to the CD and do what you want to do. You can create

images or clones with it and you can restore from previously created

images or clones.

 

Simple enough?

[Guest Discoduck]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

x-no-archive:

On May 27, 10:52 pm, Nonny <nonnymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:38:00 -0700 (PDT), Discoduck

>

> <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> >> Once the image has been restored to the new HD, everything - including

> >> Acronis True Image - is there, ready to use.

>

> >But how will the PC read the external HD or DVD if no OS is there?

> >I'm seeing it as a "chicken/egg" thing.

>

> You create a bootable CD using Acronis True Image.  That bootable CD

> has a full working linux version of Acronis True Image.

>

> You merely boot to the CD and do what you want to do. You can create

> images or clones with it and you can restore from previously created

> images or clones.

>

> Simple enough?

 

I think so. Only way to be sure is to try and experiment.

Thanks to you all.

[Guest Nonny]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

On Tue, 27 May 2008 23:05:31 -0700 (PDT), Discoduck

<fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote:

>x-no-archive:

>On May 27, 10:52 pm, Nonny <nonnymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:38:00 -0700 (PDT), Discoduck

>>

>> <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>> >> Once the image has been restored to the new HD, everything - including

>> >> Acronis True Image - is there, ready to use.

>>

>> >But how will the PC read the external HD or DVD if no OS is there?

>> >I'm seeing it as a "chicken/egg" thing.

>>

>> You create a bootable CD using Acronis True Image.  That bootable CD

>> has a full working linux version of Acronis True Image.

>>

>> You merely boot to the CD and do what you want to do. You can create

>> images or clones with it and you can restore from previously created

>> images or clones.

>>

>> Simple enough?

>

>I think so. Only way to be sure is to try and experiment.

>Thanks to you all.

 

Note that you don't need to use the CD except in the case where your

system disk is fried. You CAN use it, but you don't have to.

 

If you don't have Acronis True Image, get it from Newegg.com.

 

Lowest price that I know of and free shipping.

[Guest Lil' Dave]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

"Discoduck" <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote in message

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x-no-archive:

On May 27, 6:28 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:

> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>

> news:2265b5e7-34be-4a52-8435-3ac5004bb09e@b5g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

> On May 27, 5:32 pm, Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>

> > x-no-archive:

> > I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

> > drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

> > system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

> > do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

> > But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

>

> I should be a little more specific. I think it is easy to create an

> image of the hard drive (to an external). But how would you mount

> that image BACK onto your hard drive, given in theory the operating

> system and the program used to create the image, will be wiped clean

> through formatting?

>

> Discoduck:

> The disk-imaging program, e.g., Acronis True Image, allows one to create a

> "Startup Disk" - in effect a bootable CD that contains the disk-imaging

> program. So the user would use that media in the situation you referred

> to.

> Anna

 

I see.

So I would have to do something like this (assuming back up of data

already done)

1) Format hard drive

2) reinstall XP, driver and all updates (any software I choose (ie

office))

3) install True image

4) Create image using True Image (on DVD or to external).

 

The should do it, right? Then when I choose to reformat again, I can

simply:

1) reformat hard drive

2) insert bootable DVD (create by True image) or attach external hard

drive with back up image?

 

On track (ish)?

 

------------

 

If you use the NTFS file system, XP install will create and format such a

partition for you. No separate user interaction specifically formatting

such a partition is needed. Will do FAT32, but, limited to 32GB in size.

 

No formatting is needed. Its a waste of time. The restoration will wipe

the old partition, and create a new one ready to use.

 

The boot CD with the imaging software and the media with the image file are

both needed for restoration of the windows partiton.

--

Dave

[Guest Anna]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

 

>>> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>>> On May 27, 5:32 pm, Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>>>> I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

>>>> drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

>>>> system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

>>>> do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

>>>> But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

>>>

>>> I should be a little more specific. I think it is easy to create an

>>> image of the hard drive (to an external). But how would you mount

>>> that image BACK onto your hard drive, given in theory the operating

>>> system and the program used to create the image, will be wiped clean

>>> through formatting?

 

>> On May 27, 6:28 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:

>>> Discoduck:

>>> The disk-imaging program, e.g., Acronis True Image, allows one to create

>>> a "Startup Disk" - in effect a bootable CD that contains the

>>> disk-imaging

>>> program. So the user would use that media in the situation you referred

>>> to.

>>> Anna

 

>> "Discoduck" <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>> news:6673c2ba-e303-41af-8591-48b192eb0ab5@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

>> I see.

>> So I would have to do something like this (assuming back up of data

>> already done)

>> 1) Format hard drive

>> 2) reinstall XP, driver and all updates (any software I choose (ie

>> office))

>> 3) install True image

>> 4) Create image using True Image (on DVD or to external).

>>

>> The should do it, right? Then when I choose to reformat again, I can

>> simply:

>> 1) reformat hard drive

>> 2) insert bootable DVD (create by True image) or attach external hard

>> drive with back up image?

>>

>> On track (ish)?

 

>> Anna wrote:

>> Well, not exactly...

>>

>> Let's say, using your example, you have used the ATI program to backup

>> your

>> system by creating a disk image of the system and storing that disk image

>> onto your USB external HDD.

>>

>> Now your day-to-day working internal HDD, your "source" HDD, becomes

>> defective and unbootable. Obviously the ATI program that you had

>> installed

>> on that HDD is "gone with the wind".

>>

>> So you install a new HDD - it need not be partitioned/formatted since

>> that

>> will be taken care of through the disk-cloning operation involving

>> cloning

>> the contents of the USBEHD to the new HDD. To do this you would simply >>

>> boot to the "Startup Disk" CD (what Acronis calls its "Bootable Rescue

>> Media") inserted in the USBEHD and proceed with the disk-cloning

>> operation.

>> Anna

 

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:ep9f3tHwIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> "Disk cloning", or "restoring the backup image"??? I think it's called

> the latter (if imaging was originally used, as he said), but the end

> result may be the same. :-)

 

 

Bill:

Yes, you're absolutely correct. I mistakenly used the term "disk cloning" (I

suppose in the generic sense re this issue) instead of the correct

terminology as you point out, i.e., restoring the disk image.

 

Apparently the OP ("Discoduck") is having some difficulty grasping this

concept judging from his/her subsequent posts. Is there some way I could

have made this clearer to him/her? (Actually now that I think about it I do

have some step-by-step instructions that I previously prepared on this topic

when we were working with the ATI versions 9 & 10. I would guess they're

relevant to the latest version 11 as well). Anyway, I'll post them if the

OP, or anyone else is interested.

Anna

Anna

[Guest Discoduck]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

On May 28, 6:14 am, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:

> >>> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

> >>> On May 27, 5:32 pm, Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> >>>> I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

> >>>> drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

> >>>> system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

> >>>> do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

> >>>> But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

>

> >>> I should be a little more specific. I think it is easy to create an

> >>> image of the hard drive (to an external). But how would you mount

> >>> that image BACK onto your hard drive, given in theory the operating

> >>> system and the program used to create the image, will be wiped clean

> >>> through formatting?

> >> On May 27, 6:28 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:

> >>> Discoduck:

> >>> The disk-imaging program, e.g., Acronis True Image, allows one to create

> >>> a "Startup Disk" - in effect a bootable CD that contains the

> >>> disk-imaging

> >>> program. So the user would use that media in the situation you referred

> >>> to.

> >>> Anna

> >> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

> >>news:6673c2ba-e303-41af-8591-48b192eb0ab5@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com....

> >> I see.

> >> So I would have to do something like this (assuming back up of data

> >> already done)

> >> 1) Format hard drive

> >> 2) reinstall XP, driver and all updates (any software I choose (ie

> >> office))

> >> 3) install True image

> >> 4) Create image using True Image (on DVD or to external).

>

> >> The should do it, right?  Then when I choose to reformat again, I can

> >> simply:

> >> 1) reformat hard drive

> >> 2) insert bootable DVD (create by True image) or attach external hard

> >> drive with back up image?

>

> >> On track (ish)?

> >> Anna wrote:

> >> Well, not exactly...

>

> >> Let's say, using your example, you have used the ATI program to backup

> >> your

> >> system by creating a disk image of the system and storing that disk image

> >> onto your USB external HDD.

>

> >> Now your day-to-day working internal HDD, your "source" HDD, becomes

> >> defective and unbootable. Obviously the ATI program that you had

> >> installed

> >> on that HDD is "gone with the wind".

>

> >> So you install a new HDD - it need not be partitioned/formatted since

> >> that

> >> will be taken care of through the disk-cloning operation involving

> >> cloning

> >> the contents of the USBEHD to the new HDD. To do this you would simply >>

> >> boot to the "Startup Disk" CD (what Acronis calls its "Bootable Rescue

> >> Media") inserted in the USBEHD and proceed with the disk-cloning

> >> operation.

> >> Anna

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_h...@earthlink.net> wrote in messagenews:ep9f3tHwIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>

> > "Disk cloning", or "restoring the backup image"???     I think it's called

> > the latter (if imaging was originally used, as he said), but the end

> > result may be the same.    :-)

>

> Bill:

> Yes, you're absolutely correct. I mistakenly used the term "disk cloning" (I

> suppose in the generic sense re this issue) instead of the correct

> terminology as you point out, i.e., restoring the disk image.

>

> Apparently the OP ("Discoduck") is having some difficulty grasping this

> concept judging from his/her subsequent posts. Is there some way I could

> have made this clearer to him/her? (Actually now that I think about it I do

> have some step-by-step instructions that I previously prepared on this topic

> when we were working with the ATI versions 9 & 10. I would guess they're

> relevant to the latest version 11 as well). Anyway, I'll post them if the

> OP, or anyone else is interested.

> Anna

> Anna- Hide quoted text -

>

> - Show quoted text -

 

Basically what I am imagining, is after I reformat (the first time)

and install XP and all updates, I must install True image. THEN

create the backup image. Correct?

[Guest Anna]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

 

"Discoduck" <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:32a6a84e-6ff6-4200-9fd5-c71a694d6442@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Basically what I am imagining, is after I reformat (the first time)

and install XP and all updates, I must install True image. THEN

create the backup image. Correct?

 

Yes, after you fresh install the XP OS, updates, and your programs,

including the Acronis True Image program, you are free to use the ATI

program to create a disk image of your system and presumably store that

image on your USBEHD.

Anna

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

 

Discoduck wrote:

> On May 28, 6:14 am, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:

>>>>> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>>>>> On May 27, 5:32 pm, Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>>>>>> I read a terrific idea, online. That is after reformatting your hard

>>>>>> drive, reinstall XP, and after it is finished updating the operating

>>>>>> system, CREATE an IMAGE of your hard drive so that the next time you

>>>>>> do this, it sint NEARLY as long a process. Excellent idea.

>>>>>> But it did not elaborate on HOW to do this. How would you do this?

>>

>>>>> I should be a little more specific. I think it is easy to create an

>>>>> image of the hard drive (to an external). But how would you mount

>>>>> that image BACK onto your hard drive, given in theory the operating

>>>>> system and the program used to create the image, will be wiped clean

>>>>> through formatting?

>>>> On May 27, 6:28 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:

>>>>> Discoduck:

>>>>> The disk-imaging program, e.g., Acronis True Image, allows one to

>>>>> create

>>>>> a "Startup Disk" - in effect a bootable CD that contains the

>>>>> disk-imaging

>>>>> program. So the user would use that media in the situation you

>>>>> referred

>>>>> to.

>>>>> Anna

>>>> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>>>> news:6673c2ba-e303-41af-8591-48b192eb0ab5@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

>>>> I see.

>>>> So I would have to do something like this (assuming back up of data

>>>> already done)

>>>> 1) Format hard drive

>>>> 2) reinstall XP, driver and all updates (any software I choose (ie

>>>> office))

>>>> 3) install True image

>>>> 4) Create image using True Image (on DVD or to external).

>>

>>>> The should do it, right? Then when I choose to reformat again, I can

>>>> simply:

>>>> 1) reformat hard drive

>>>> 2) insert bootable DVD (create by True image) or attach external hard

>>>> drive with back up image?

>>

>>>> On track (ish)?

>>>> Anna wrote:

>>>> Well, not exactly...

>>

>>>> Let's say, using your example, you have used the ATI program to backup

>>>> your

>>>> system by creating a disk image of the system and storing that disk

>>>> image

>>>> onto your USB external HDD.

>>

>>>> Now your day-to-day working internal HDD, your "source" HDD, becomes

>>>> defective and unbootable. Obviously the ATI program that you had

>>>> installed

>>>> on that HDD is "gone with the wind".

>>

>>>> So you install a new HDD - it need not be partitioned/formatted since

>>>> that

>>>> will be taken care of through the disk-cloning operation involving

>>>> cloning

>>>> the contents of the USBEHD to the new HDD. To do this you would simply

>>>> boot to the "Startup Disk" CD (what Acronis calls its "Bootable Rescue

>>>> Media") inserted in the USBEHD and proceed with the disk-cloning

>>>> operation.

>>>> Anna

>>

>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_h...@earthlink.net> wrote in

>> messagenews:ep9f3tHwIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>

>>> "Disk cloning", or "restoring the backup image"??? I think it's called

>>> the latter (if imaging was originally used, as he said), but the end

>>> result may be the same. :-)

>>

>> Bill:

>> Yes, you're absolutely correct. I mistakenly used the term "disk cloning"

>> (I

>> suppose in the generic sense re this issue) instead of the correct

>> terminology as you point out, i.e., restoring the disk image.

>>

>> Apparently the OP ("Discoduck") is having some difficulty grasping this

>> concept judging from his/her subsequent posts. Is there some way I could

>> have made this clearer to him/her? (Actually now that I think about it I

>> do

>> have some step-by-step instructions that I previously prepared on this

>> topic

>> when we were working with the ATI versions 9 & 10. I would guess they're

>> relevant to the latest version 11 as well). Anyway, I'll post them if the

>> OP, or anyone else is interested.

>> Anna

>> Anna-

>

> Basically what I am imagining, is after I reformat (the first time)

> and install XP and all updates, I must install True Image. THEN

> create the backup image. Correct?

 

Well, if I read this right, yes. After you get your system set up the way

you want it to be, install True Image (or you could have install True Image

a bit earlier, but just don't use it yet), and then create a backup image on

the other drive (the USB external).

 

Then if and when it comes time, you can restore that backup image on the

external drive back to your main source drive, assuming the need arose to do

that.

 

That is when you would run True Image, either directly from your computer,

or, alternatively, boot up on the True Image CD (assuming you bought the

CD - otherwise you can make one - but I think it's simpler to just buy the

boxed version of True Image, which is already on a bootable CD)