Windows update OK?

[Guest Jo-Anne Naples]

For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A couple

weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since then that

Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates, and I went

to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I found. Does

this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep asking

this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away and what

to hang back on.)

 

<<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded; ready to

install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer for

Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller download

size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software updates for

Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products. After you

install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

 

One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

notification, not for downloading.

 

Thank you!

 

Jo-Anne

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

Crossposted to Windows Update newsgroup.

 

[background from previous threads: Jo-Anne had a shop install SP3, IE7, and

NIS 2008. We do not know in what order they were installed or if the shop

reinstalled Windows before installing SP3.]

 

While the Applies To section of KB898461

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898461 does not list WinXP SP3 (which leads

us to assume that SP3 includes it), if it's being offered by

Windows/Automatic Update, approve the installation, Jo-Anne. Let us know

how you make out, please.

 

As to the "Downloaded; ready to install" notice, is Automatic Updates

configured for "Notify Only" or "Download then notify"?

 

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

 

Windows Update-specific newsgroup:

http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

 

Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

> For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A couple

> weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since then that

> Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates, and I

> went

> to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I found.

> Does

> this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep asking

> this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away and

> what

> to hang back on.)

>

> <<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded; ready

> to

> install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer for

> Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller

> download

> size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software updates

> for

> Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products. After

> you

> install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>

> One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

> notification, not for downloading.

>

> Thank you!

>

> Jo-Anne

[Guest Nonny]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

On Wed, 28 May 2008 11:12:20 -0500, "Jo-Anne Naples"

<naples@tbcnet.com> wrote:

>For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A couple

>weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since then that

>Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates, and I went

>to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I found. Does

>this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep asking

>this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away and what

>to hang back on.)

 

It's all very simple: do a system restore prior to installing

anything. If something goes wrong, you can go back.

>

><<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded; ready to

>install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer for

>Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller download

>size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software updates for

>Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products. After you

>install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>

>One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

>notification, not for downloading.

>

>Thank you!

>

>Jo-Anne

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

No need: Installing the update will create a Restore Point automatically.

 

Nonny wrote:

> On Wed, 28 May 2008 11:12:20 -0500, "Jo-Anne Naples"

> <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote:

>

>> For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A

>> couple

>> weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since then

>> that

>> Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates, and I

>> went to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I

>> found. Does this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't

>> keep asking this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow

>> right

>> away and what to hang back on.)

>

> It's all very simple: do a system restore prior to installing

> anything. If something goes wrong, you can go back.

>

>>

>> <<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded; ready

>> to

>> install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer for

>> Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller

>> download

>> size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software updates

>> for

>> Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products. After

>> you

>> install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>>

>> One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

>> notification, not for downloading.

>>

>> Thank you!

>>

>> Jo-Anne

[Guest Jo-Anne Naples]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

Thank you very much! This is exactly what I wanted to know.

 

I just looked at System Properties, and I had checked Notify Only. Does this

mean, from what you said below, that SP3 downloaded the update? I'll go

ahead with the install shortly.

 

Thank you again,

 

Jo-Anne

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:O4kruZOwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Crossposted to Windows Update newsgroup.

>

> [background from previous threads: Jo-Anne had a shop install SP3, IE7,

> and NIS 2008. We do not know in what order they were installed or if the

> shop reinstalled Windows before installing SP3.]

>

> While the Applies To section of KB898461

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898461 does not list WinXP SP3 (which

> leads us to assume that SP3 includes it), if it's being offered by

> Windows/Automatic Update, approve the installation, Jo-Anne. Let us know

> how you make out, please.

>

> As to the "Downloaded; ready to install" notice, is Automatic Updates

> configured for "Notify Only" or "Download then notify"?

>

> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

>

> Windows Update-specific newsgroup:

> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate

> --

> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>

>

> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>> For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A

>> couple

>> weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since then

>> that

>> Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates, and I

>> went

>> to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I found.

>> Does

>> this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep asking

>> this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away and

>> what

>> to hang back on.)

>>

>> <<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded; ready

>> to

>> install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer for

>> Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller

>> download

>> size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software updates

>> for

>> Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products. After

>> you

>> install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>>

>> One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

>> notification, not for downloading.

>>

>> Thank you!

>>

>> Jo-Anne

>

[Guest Nonny]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:57:05 -0500, "Jo-Anne Naples"

<naples@tbcnet.com> wrote:

>Thank you very much! This is exactly what I wanted to know.

>

>I just looked at System Properties, and I had checked Notify Only. Does this

>mean, from what you said below, that SP3 downloaded the update? I'll go

>ahead with the install shortly.

 

"Notify Only" means that it only tells you when updates are available.

You have to then tell it to download and install.

 

>Thank you again,

>

>Jo-Anne

>

>"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>news:O4kruZOwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Crossposted to Windows Update newsgroup.

>>

>> [background from previous threads: Jo-Anne had a shop install SP3, IE7,

>> and NIS 2008. We do not know in what order they were installed or if the

>> shop reinstalled Windows before installing SP3.]

>>

>> While the Applies To section of KB898461

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898461 does not list WinXP SP3 (which

>> leads us to assume that SP3 includes it), if it's being offered by

>> Windows/Automatic Update, approve the installation, Jo-Anne. Let us know

>> how you make out, please.

>>

>> As to the "Downloaded; ready to install" notice, is Automatic Updates

>> configured for "Notify Only" or "Download then notify"?

>>

>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

>>

>> Windows Update-specific newsgroup:

>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate

>> --

>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>

>>

>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>> For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A

>>> couple

>>> weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since then

>>> that

>>> Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates, and I

>>> went

>>> to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I found.

>>> Does

>>> this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep asking

>>> this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away and

>>> what

>>> to hang back on.)

>>>

>>> <<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded; ready

>>> to

>>> install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer for

>>> Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller

>>> download

>>> size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software updates

>>> for

>>> Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products. After

>>> you

>>> install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>>>

>>> One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

>>> notification, not for downloading.

>>>

>>> Thank you!

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne

>>

>

[Guest Big Al]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

> Thank you very much! This is exactly what I wanted to know.

>

> I just looked at System Properties, and I had checked Notify Only. Does this

> mean, from what you said below, that SP3 downloaded the update? I'll go

> ahead with the install shortly.

>

> Thank you again,

>

> Jo-Anne

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:O4kruZOwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Crossposted to Windows Update newsgroup.

>>

>> [background from previous threads: Jo-Anne had a shop install SP3, IE7,

>> and NIS 2008. We do not know in what order they were installed or if the

>> shop reinstalled Windows before installing SP3.]

>>

>> While the Applies To section of KB898461

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898461 does not list WinXP SP3 (which

>> leads us to assume that SP3 includes it), if it's being offered by

>> Windows/Automatic Update, approve the installation, Jo-Anne. Let us know

>> how you make out, please.

>>

>> As to the "Downloaded; ready to install" notice, is Automatic Updates

>> configured for "Notify Only" or "Download then notify"?

>>

>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

>>

>> Windows Update-specific newsgroup:

>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate

>> --

>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>

>>

>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>> For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A

>>> couple

>>> weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since then

>>> that

>>> Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates, and I

>>> went

>>> to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I found.

>>> Does

>>> this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep asking

>>> this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away and

>>> what

>>> to hang back on.)

>>>

>>> <<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded; ready

>>> to

>>> install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer for

>>> Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller

>>> download

>>> size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software updates

>>> for

>>> Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products. After

>>> you

>>> install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>>>

>>> One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

>>> notification, not for downloading.

>>>

>>> Thank you!

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne

>

>

There is a similar question about 898461 and 924764 in

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.

Once you install the new installer per KB898461 the next windows update

shows KB924764 is needed.

I'm guessing, but it sounds like the installer was changed, and the

timezone software (924764) was changed too.

Both were offered to me in the Windows updates today in sequence.

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

If AU is set to Notify Only, someone would have had to approve the download

of KB898461 at some point, Jo-Anne. If you didn't approve it, other

explanations that it's downloaded could include:

 

1. Norton Security Center (part of NIS 2008) has overridden your Automatic

Updates setting (especially if Norton Security Center has also overridden

Windows Security Center & settings [another reason I hate Norton apps]);

 

2. Someone may have changed AU setting to Download Then Notify;

 

3. KB898461 may have downloaded while the machine was in the shop and before

AU was set to Notify Only or before NIS was installed;

 

4. The shop did a half-a**ed job installing SP3...and may have reinstalled

Windows before installing SP3.

 

Again, let us know what happens.

--

~PA Bear

 

 

Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

> Thank you very much! This is exactly what I wanted to know.

>

> I just looked at System Properties, and I had checked Notify Only. Does

> this

> mean, from what you said below, that SP3 downloaded the update? I'll go

> ahead with the install shortly.

> <snip>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:O4kruZOwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Crossposted to Windows Update newsgroup.

>>

>> [background from previous threads: Jo-Anne had a shop install SP3, IE7,

>> and NIS 2008. We do not know in what order they were installed or if the

>> shop reinstalled Windows before installing SP3.]

>>

>> While the Applies To section of KB898461

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898461 does not list WinXP SP3 (which

>> leads us to assume that SP3 includes it), if it's being offered by

>> Windows/Automatic Update, approve the installation, Jo-Anne. Let us know

>> how you make out, please.

>>

>> As to the "Downloaded; ready to install" notice, is Automatic Updates

>> configured for "Notify Only" or "Download then notify"?

>>

>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

>>

>> Windows Update-specific newsgroup:

>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate

>> --

>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>

>>

>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>> For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A

>>> couple

>>> weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since then

>>> that

>>> Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates, and I

>>> went

>>> to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I found.

>>> Does

>>> this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep asking

>>> this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away and

>>> what

>>> to hang back on.)

>>>

>>> <<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded; ready

>>> to

>>> install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer for

>>> Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller

>>> download

>>> size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software updates

>>> for

>>> Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products. After

>>> you

>>> install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>>>

>>> One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

>>> notification, not for downloading.

>>>

>>> Thank you!

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne

[Guest Jo-Anne Naples]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

Things are getting stranger. First, I clicked on the Updates icon and said

to go ahead--but what went ahead was, it claimed, a download (after I had

been told at the Windows Update website that what it wanted to update had

already been downloaded and just needed to be installed). After the

download, I said OK to the install, and it seemed to install. (I haven't yet

restarted the computer.)

 

The Update icon, however, immediately began to notify me again that updates

were ready for my computer. I went to the Updates website and was told I

should install the high-priority update KB942763. I haven't done so yet but

assume I should. But why didn't it do all the Updates at once?

 

Also, Norton would have liked to override my Automatic Updates notify-only

setting, but I unchecked that box, even though it warned me I was making my

computer unsafe. My setting is definitely still notify-only. (The shop where

I had SP3 installed didn't reinstall Windows; that's something I'm sure of.)

 

Thanks again!

 

Jo-Anne

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23dROGQPwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> If AU is set to Notify Only, someone would have had to approve the

> download of KB898461 at some point, Jo-Anne. If you didn't approve it,

> other explanations that it's downloaded could include:

>

> 1. Norton Security Center (part of NIS 2008) has overridden your Automatic

> Updates setting (especially if Norton Security Center has also overridden

> Windows Security Center & settings [another reason I hate Norton apps]);

>

> 2. Someone may have changed AU setting to Download Then Notify;

>

> 3. KB898461 may have downloaded while the machine was in the shop and

> before AU was set to Notify Only or before NIS was installed;

>

> 4. The shop did a half-a**ed job installing SP3...and may have reinstalled

> Windows before installing SP3.

>

> Again, let us know what happens.

> --

> ~PA Bear

>

>

> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>> Thank you very much! This is exactly what I wanted to know.

>>

>> I just looked at System Properties, and I had checked Notify Only. Does

>> this

>> mean, from what you said below, that SP3 downloaded the update? I'll go

>> ahead with the install shortly.

>> <snip>

>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:O4kruZOwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Crossposted to Windows Update newsgroup.

>>>

>>> [background from previous threads: Jo-Anne had a shop install SP3, IE7,

>>> and NIS 2008. We do not know in what order they were installed or if

>>> the

>>> shop reinstalled Windows before installing SP3.]

>>>

>>> While the Applies To section of KB898461

>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898461 does not list WinXP SP3 (which

>>> leads us to assume that SP3 includes it), if it's being offered by

>>> Windows/Automatic Update, approve the installation, Jo-Anne. Let us

>>> know

>>> how you make out, please.

>>>

>>> As to the "Downloaded; ready to install" notice, is Automatic Updates

>>> configured for "Notify Only" or "Download then notify"?

>>>

>>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:

>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

>>>

>>> Windows Update-specific newsgroup:

>>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate

>>> --

>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>>

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>>> For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A

>>>> couple

>>>> weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since then

>>>> that

>>>> Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates, and I

>>>> went

>>>> to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I found.

>>>> Does

>>>> this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep

>>>> asking

>>>> this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away and

>>>> what

>>>> to hang back on.)

>>>>

>>>> <<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded;

>>>> ready

>>>> to

>>>> install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer

>>>> for

>>>> Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller

>>>> download

>>>> size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software updates

>>>> for

>>>> Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products. After

>>>> you

>>>> install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>>>>

>>>> One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

>>>> notification, not for downloading.

>>>>

>>>> Thank you!

>>>>

>>>> Jo-Anne

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

Short answer: KB898461 needed to be installed before KB942763 could be

offered/installed. Install the latter now.

 

Sounds like you installed NIS, not the shop.

 

 

Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

> Things are getting stranger. First, I clicked on the Updates icon and said

> to go ahead--but what went ahead was, it claimed, a download (after I had

> been told at the Windows Update website that what it wanted to update had

> already been downloaded and just needed to be installed). After the

> download, I said OK to the install, and it seemed to install. (I haven't

> yet

> restarted the computer.)

>

> The Update icon, however, immediately began to notify me again that

> updates

> were ready for my computer. I went to the Updates website and was told I

> should install the high-priority update KB942763. I haven't done so yet

> but

> assume I should. But why didn't it do all the Updates at once?

>

> Also, Norton would have liked to override my Automatic Updates notify-only

> setting, but I unchecked that box, even though it warned me I was making

> my

> computer unsafe. My setting is definitely still notify-only. (The shop

> where

> I had SP3 installed didn't reinstall Windows; that's something I'm sure

> of.)

>

>> If AU is set to Notify Only, someone would have had to approve the

>> download of KB898461 at some point, Jo-Anne. If you didn't approve it,

>> other explanations that it's downloaded could include:

>>

>> 1. Norton Security Center (part of NIS 2008) has overridden your

>> Automatic

>> Updates setting (especially if Norton Security Center has also overridden

>> Windows Security Center & settings [another reason I hate Norton apps]);

>>

>> 2. Someone may have changed AU setting to Download Then Notify;

>>

>> 3. KB898461 may have downloaded while the machine was in the shop and

>> before AU was set to Notify Only or before NIS was installed;

>>

>> 4. The shop did a half-a**ed job installing SP3...and may have

>> reinstalled

>> Windows before installing SP3.

>>

>> Again, let us know what happens.

>> --

>> ~PA Bear

>>

>>

>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>> Thank you very much! This is exactly what I wanted to know.

>>>

>>> I just looked at System Properties, and I had checked Notify Only. Does

>>> this

>>> mean, from what you said below, that SP3 downloaded the update? I'll go

>>> ahead with the install shortly.

>>> <snip>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:O4kruZOwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Crossposted to Windows Update newsgroup.

>>>>

>>>> [background from previous threads: Jo-Anne had a shop install SP3, IE7,

>>>> and NIS 2008. We do not know in what order they were installed or if

>>>> the

>>>> shop reinstalled Windows before installing SP3.]

>>>>

>>>> While the Applies To section of KB898461

>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898461 does not list WinXP SP3 (which

>>>> leads us to assume that SP3 includes it), if it's being offered by

>>>> Windows/Automatic Update, approve the installation, Jo-Anne. Let us

>>>> know

>>>> how you make out, please.

>>>>

>>>> As to the "Downloaded; ready to install" notice, is Automatic Updates

>>>> configured for "Notify Only" or "Download then notify"?

>>>>

>>>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:

>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

>>>>

>>>> Windows Update-specific newsgroup:

>>>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate

>>>> --

>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>>>> For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A

>>>>> couple

>>>>> weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since then

>>>>> that

>>>>> Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates, and

>>>>> I

>>>>> went

>>>>> to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I

>>>>> found.

>>>>> Does

>>>>> this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep

>>>>> asking

>>>>> this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away

>>>>> and

>>>>> what

>>>>> to hang back on.)

>>>>>

>>>>> <<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded;

>>>>> ready

>>>>> to

>>>>> install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer

>>>>> for

>>>>> Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller

>>>>> download

>>>>> size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software

>>>>> updates

>>>>> for

>>>>> Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products.

>>>>> After

>>>>> you

>>>>> install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>>>>>

>>>>> One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

>>>>> notification, not for downloading.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thank you!

>>>>>

>>>>> Jo-Anne

[Guest Jo-Anne Naples]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

I installed the new Windows update as you suggested and restarted the

computer, and all seems to be OK (I hope). Re Norton, Symantec installed the

program for me after the shop installed SP3. I had had malware that I

couldn't get rid of and paid Symantec to do it (the local shop would have

reinstalled Windows, and I didn't want that). My old subscription was

running out, and I was told if I bought any of the three 2008 programs, they

would install it.

 

Next year I'll ask for info on other security programs. Not sure which

newsgroup; if you have any suggestions, let me know. Otherwise, I'll look

around for one. (Actually, I could use one now, since I probably should

install at least one anti-spyware program other than Norton.)

 

Thank you very much for everything!

 

Jo-Anne

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:O7$Z9rPwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Short answer: KB898461 needed to be installed before KB942763 could be

> offered/installed. Install the latter now.

>

> Sounds like you installed NIS, not the shop.

>

>

> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>> Things are getting stranger. First, I clicked on the Updates icon and

>> said

>> to go ahead--but what went ahead was, it claimed, a download (after I had

>> been told at the Windows Update website that what it wanted to update had

>> already been downloaded and just needed to be installed). After the

>> download, I said OK to the install, and it seemed to install. (I haven't

>> yet

>> restarted the computer.)

>>

>> The Update icon, however, immediately began to notify me again that

>> updates

>> were ready for my computer. I went to the Updates website and was told I

>> should install the high-priority update KB942763. I haven't done so yet

>> but

>> assume I should. But why didn't it do all the Updates at once?

>>

>> Also, Norton would have liked to override my Automatic Updates

>> notify-only

>> setting, but I unchecked that box, even though it warned me I was making

>> my

>> computer unsafe. My setting is definitely still notify-only. (The shop

>> where

>> I had SP3 installed didn't reinstall Windows; that's something I'm sure

>> of.)

>>

>>> If AU is set to Notify Only, someone would have had to approve the

>>> download of KB898461 at some point, Jo-Anne. If you didn't approve it,

>>> other explanations that it's downloaded could include:

>>>

>>> 1. Norton Security Center (part of NIS 2008) has overridden your

>>> Automatic

>>> Updates setting (especially if Norton Security Center has also

>>> overridden

>>> Windows Security Center & settings [another reason I hate Norton apps]);

>>>

>>> 2. Someone may have changed AU setting to Download Then Notify;

>>>

>>> 3. KB898461 may have downloaded while the machine was in the shop and

>>> before AU was set to Notify Only or before NIS was installed;

>>>

>>> 4. The shop did a half-a**ed job installing SP3...and may have

>>> reinstalled

>>> Windows before installing SP3.

>>>

>>> Again, let us know what happens.

>>> --

>>> ~PA Bear

>>>

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>>> Thank you very much! This is exactly what I wanted to know.

>>>>

>>>> I just looked at System Properties, and I had checked Notify Only. Does

>>>> this

>>>> mean, from what you said below, that SP3 downloaded the update? I'll go

>>>> ahead with the install shortly.

>>>> <snip>

>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:O4kruZOwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Crossposted to Windows Update newsgroup.

>>>>>

>>>>> [background from previous threads: Jo-Anne had a shop install SP3,

>>>>> IE7,

>>>>> and NIS 2008. We do not know in what order they were installed or if

>>>>> the

>>>>> shop reinstalled Windows before installing SP3.]

>>>>>

>>>>> While the Applies To section of KB898461

>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898461 does not list WinXP SP3 (which

>>>>> leads us to assume that SP3 includes it), if it's being offered by

>>>>> Windows/Automatic Update, approve the installation, Jo-Anne. Let us

>>>>> know

>>>>> how you make out, please.

>>>>>

>>>>> As to the "Downloaded; ready to install" notice, is Automatic Updates

>>>>> configured for "Notify Only" or "Download then notify"?

>>>>>

>>>>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:

>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

>>>>>

>>>>> Windows Update-specific newsgroup:

>>>>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate

>>>>> --

>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>>>>> For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A

>>>>>> couple

>>>>>> weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since then

>>>>>> that

>>>>>> Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates, and

>>>>>> I

>>>>>> went

>>>>>> to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I

>>>>>> found.

>>>>>> Does

>>>>>> this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep

>>>>>> asking

>>>>>> this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away

>>>>>> and

>>>>>> what

>>>>>> to hang back on.)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> <<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded;

>>>>>> ready

>>>>>> to

>>>>>> install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer

>>>>>> for

>>>>>> Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller

>>>>>> download

>>>>>> size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software

>>>>>> updates

>>>>>> for

>>>>>> Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products.

>>>>>> After

>>>>>> you

>>>>>> install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

>>>>>> notification, not for downloading.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thank you!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Jo-Anne

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

So both of 'em installed?

> ...I had had malware that I

> couldn't get rid of and paid Symantec to do it (the local shop would have

> reinstalled Windows, and I didn't want that).

 

You probably didn't need Symantec's assistance to clean up the machine (and

I'd have my doubts that they'd done so, unless they reinstalled Windows as

the shop had wanted to do).

 

In the future, you can post about any security-related problems & issues

(e.g., uninstalling every trace of NIS when the time comes and replacing it

with something that's not such a memory hog) in

microsoft.public.security.homeusers newsgroup, Jo-Anne. We'll take care of

you.

 

Speaking of Norton and WinXP SP3, please consider

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9089658

--

~PA Bear

 

 

Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

> I installed the new Windows update as you suggested and restarted the

> computer, and all seems to be OK (I hope). Re Norton, Symantec installed

> the

> program for me after the shop installed SP3. I had had malware that I

> couldn't get rid of and paid Symantec to do it (the local shop would have

> reinstalled Windows, and I didn't want that). My old subscription was

> running out, and I was told if I bought any of the three 2008 programs,

> they

> would install it.

>

> Next year I'll ask for info on other security programs. Not sure which

> newsgroup; if you have any suggestions, let me know. Otherwise, I'll look

> around for one. (Actually, I could use one now, since I probably should

> install at least one anti-spyware program other than Norton.)

>

> Thank you very much for everything!

>

> Jo-Anne

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:O7$Z9rPwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Short answer: KB898461 needed to be installed before KB942763 could be

>> offered/installed. Install the latter now.

>>

>> Sounds like you installed NIS, not the shop.

>>

>>

>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>> Things are getting stranger. First, I clicked on the Updates icon and

>>> said

>>> to go ahead--but what went ahead was, it claimed, a download (after I

>>> had

>>> been told at the Windows Update website that what it wanted to update

>>> had

>>> already been downloaded and just needed to be installed). After the

>>> download, I said OK to the install, and it seemed to install. (I haven't

>>> yet

>>> restarted the computer.)

>>>

>>> The Update icon, however, immediately began to notify me again that

>>> updates

>>> were ready for my computer. I went to the Updates website and was told I

>>> should install the high-priority update KB942763. I haven't done so yet

>>> but

>>> assume I should. But why didn't it do all the Updates at once?

>>>

>>> Also, Norton would have liked to override my Automatic Updates

>>> notify-only

>>> setting, but I unchecked that box, even though it warned me I was making

>>> my

>>> computer unsafe. My setting is definitely still notify-only. (The shop

>>> where

>>> I had SP3 installed didn't reinstall Windows; that's something I'm sure

>>> of.)

>>>

>>>> If AU is set to Notify Only, someone would have had to approve the

>>>> download of KB898461 at some point, Jo-Anne. If you didn't approve it,

>>>> other explanations that it's downloaded could include:

>>>>

>>>> 1. Norton Security Center (part of NIS 2008) has overridden your

>>>> Automatic

>>>> Updates setting (especially if Norton Security Center has also

>>>> overridden

>>>> Windows Security Center & settings [another reason I hate Norton

>>>> apps]);

>>>>

>>>> 2. Someone may have changed AU setting to Download Then Notify;

>>>>

>>>> 3. KB898461 may have downloaded while the machine was in the shop and

>>>> before AU was set to Notify Only or before NIS was installed;

>>>>

>>>> 4. The shop did a half-a**ed job installing SP3...and may have

>>>> reinstalled

>>>> Windows before installing SP3.

>>>>

>>>> Again, let us know what happens.

>>>> --

>>>> ~PA Bear

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>>>> Thank you very much! This is exactly what I wanted to know.

>>>>>

>>>>> I just looked at System Properties, and I had checked Notify Only.

>>>>> Does

>>>>> this

>>>>> mean, from what you said below, that SP3 downloaded the update? I'll

>>>>> go

>>>>> ahead with the install shortly.

>>>>> <snip>

>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:O4kruZOwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Crossposted to Windows Update newsgroup.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> [background from previous threads: Jo-Anne had a shop install SP3,

>>>>>> IE7,

>>>>>> and NIS 2008. We do not know in what order they were installed or if

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> shop reinstalled Windows before installing SP3.]

>>>>>>

>>>>>> While the Applies To section of KB898461

>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898461 does not list WinXP SP3 (which

>>>>>> leads us to assume that SP3 includes it), if it's being offered by

>>>>>> Windows/Automatic Update, approve the installation, Jo-Anne. Let us

>>>>>> know

>>>>>> how you make out, please.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> As to the "Downloaded; ready to install" notice, is Automatic Updates

>>>>>> configured for "Notify Only" or "Download then notify"?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:

>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Windows Update-specific newsgroup:

>>>>>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>>>>>> For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A

>>>>>>> couple

>>>>>>> weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since

>>>>>>> then

>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>> Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates,

>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> went

>>>>>>> to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I

>>>>>>> found.

>>>>>>> Does

>>>>>>> this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep

>>>>>>> asking

>>>>>>> this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away

>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>> what

>>>>>>> to hang back on.)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> <<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded;

>>>>>>> ready

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package Installer

>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>> Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller

>>>>>>> download

>>>>>>> size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software

>>>>>>> updates

>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>> Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products.

>>>>>>> After

>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>> install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

>>>>>>> notification, not for downloading.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thank you!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Jo-Anne

[Guest Jo-Anne Naples]

Re: Windows update OK?

 

Thank you again! Yes, both of them are installed, and so far so good.

 

I had a terrible time with the malware, and it took Symantec 3.5 hours to

get rid of it--mainly, I think, because Spybot (which I had on my computer

but no longer do) seems not to play well with Norton. Two malware registry

files that were supposed to have been deleted kept popping back up. I

finally suggested uninstalling Spybot, and that did it.

 

And then, a few days later, when I had Symantec install NIS, it took another

3 hours. The lady who had control of my computer couldn't seem to get rid of

the old Norton Antivirus--and then couldn't install the new program either.

She ended up doing it in Safe Mode as I recall. Not a great experience. And

omigod, what happened with Norton and SP3 as reported in ComputerWorld is

awful!

 

Thank you also for the pointer to the security newsgroup. I've subscribed

and am looking forward to learning more.

 

Jo-Anne

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:uMnwTARwIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> So both of 'em installed?

>

>> ...I had had malware that I

>> couldn't get rid of and paid Symantec to do it (the local shop would have

>> reinstalled Windows, and I didn't want that).

>

> You probably didn't need Symantec's assistance to clean up the machine

> (and I'd have my doubts that they'd done so, unless they reinstalled

> Windows as the shop had wanted to do).

>

> In the future, you can post about any security-related problems & issues

> (e.g., uninstalling every trace of NIS when the time comes and replacing

> it with something that's not such a memory hog) in

> microsoft.public.security.homeusers newsgroup, Jo-Anne. We'll take care

> of you.

>

> Speaking of Norton and WinXP SP3, please consider

> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9089658

> --

> ~PA Bear

>

>

> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>> I installed the new Windows update as you suggested and restarted the

>> computer, and all seems to be OK (I hope). Re Norton, Symantec installed

>> the

>> program for me after the shop installed SP3. I had had malware that I

>> couldn't get rid of and paid Symantec to do it (the local shop would have

>> reinstalled Windows, and I didn't want that). My old subscription was

>> running out, and I was told if I bought any of the three 2008 programs,

>> they

>> would install it.

>>

>> Next year I'll ask for info on other security programs. Not sure which

>> newsgroup; if you have any suggestions, let me know. Otherwise, I'll look

>> around for one. (Actually, I could use one now, since I probably should

>> install at least one anti-spyware program other than Norton.)

>>

>> Thank you very much for everything!

>>

>> Jo-Anne

>>

>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:O7$Z9rPwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Short answer: KB898461 needed to be installed before KB942763 could be

>>> offered/installed. Install the latter now.

>>>

>>> Sounds like you installed NIS, not the shop.

>>>

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>>> Things are getting stranger. First, I clicked on the Updates icon and

>>>> said

>>>> to go ahead--but what went ahead was, it claimed, a download (after I

>>>> had

>>>> been told at the Windows Update website that what it wanted to update

>>>> had

>>>> already been downloaded and just needed to be installed). After the

>>>> download, I said OK to the install, and it seemed to install. (I

>>>> haven't

>>>> yet

>>>> restarted the computer.)

>>>>

>>>> The Update icon, however, immediately began to notify me again that

>>>> updates

>>>> were ready for my computer. I went to the Updates website and was told

>>>> I

>>>> should install the high-priority update KB942763. I haven't done so yet

>>>> but

>>>> assume I should. But why didn't it do all the Updates at once?

>>>>

>>>> Also, Norton would have liked to override my Automatic Updates

>>>> notify-only

>>>> setting, but I unchecked that box, even though it warned me I was

>>>> making

>>>> my

>>>> computer unsafe. My setting is definitely still notify-only. (The shop

>>>> where

>>>> I had SP3 installed didn't reinstall Windows; that's something I'm sure

>>>> of.)

>>>>

>>>>> If AU is set to Notify Only, someone would have had to approve the

>>>>> download of KB898461 at some point, Jo-Anne. If you didn't approve

>>>>> it,

>>>>> other explanations that it's downloaded could include:

>>>>>

>>>>> 1. Norton Security Center (part of NIS 2008) has overridden your

>>>>> Automatic

>>>>> Updates setting (especially if Norton Security Center has also

>>>>> overridden

>>>>> Windows Security Center & settings [another reason I hate Norton

>>>>> apps]);

>>>>>

>>>>> 2. Someone may have changed AU setting to Download Then Notify;

>>>>>

>>>>> 3. KB898461 may have downloaded while the machine was in the shop and

>>>>> before AU was set to Notify Only or before NIS was installed;

>>>>>

>>>>> 4. The shop did a half-a**ed job installing SP3...and may have

>>>>> reinstalled

>>>>> Windows before installing SP3.

>>>>>

>>>>> Again, let us know what happens.

>>>>> --

>>>>> ~PA Bear

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>>>>> Thank you very much! This is exactly what I wanted to know.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I just looked at System Properties, and I had checked Notify Only.

>>>>>> Does

>>>>>> this

>>>>>> mean, from what you said below, that SP3 downloaded the update? I'll

>>>>>> go

>>>>>> ahead with the install shortly.

>>>>>> <snip>

>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:O4kruZOwIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Crossposted to Windows Update newsgroup.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> [background from previous threads: Jo-Anne had a shop install SP3,

>>>>>>> IE7,

>>>>>>> and NIS 2008. We do not know in what order they were installed or

>>>>>>> if

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> shop reinstalled Windows before installing SP3.]

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> While the Applies To section of KB898461

>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898461 does not list WinXP SP3

>>>>>>> (which

>>>>>>> leads us to assume that SP3 includes it), if it's being offered by

>>>>>>> Windows/Automatic Update, approve the installation, Jo-Anne. Let us

>>>>>>> know

>>>>>>> how you make out, please.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> As to the "Downloaded; ready to install" notice, is Automatic

>>>>>>> Updates

>>>>>>> configured for "Notify Only" or "Download then notify"?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:

>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Windows Update-specific newsgroup:

>>>>>>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>>>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>>>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

>>>>>>>> For several years I never updated Windows on my XP Home computer. A

>>>>>>>> couple

>>>>>>>> weeks ago I had SP3 installed, and today is the first time since

>>>>>>>> then

>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>> Windows wants to update. I had asked for notification of updates,

>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>> went

>>>>>>>> to the update website to see what was there. Following is what I

>>>>>>>> found.

>>>>>>>> Does

>>>>>>>> this appear to be something I should go ahead with? (I won't keep

>>>>>>>> asking

>>>>>>>> this question, but I'm still nervous about what to allow right away

>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>> what

>>>>>>>> to hang back on.)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> <<Update for Windows XP (KB898461) 0 KB , 0 minutes (Downloaded;

>>>>>>>> ready

>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>> install) This update installs a permanent copy of Package

>>>>>>>> Installer

>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>> Windows to enable software updates to have a significantly smaller

>>>>>>>> download

>>>>>>>> size. The Package Installer facilitates the install of software

>>>>>>>> updates

>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>> Microsoft Windows operating systems and other Microsoft products.

>>>>>>>> After

>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>> install this update, you may have to restart your system.>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> One odd thing (to me) is that, as far as I know, I asked only for

>>>>>>>> notification, not for downloading.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Thank you!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Jo-Anne

>