Which firewall is best for Win98se

May 28, 2008

Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall group and

the security group and they pointed me to http://www.oldapps.com/. I did not see

Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works with windows

98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone have a

recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure it is suggested

for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

May 28, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better security, then

one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is far better

than one that is setup for general usage.

This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request information

on what to do with the connection or files until you have *trained* them or

written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know whether a file

or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to attempt to use

one of these as you might accidentally allow something that shouldn't be.

If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of firewall, then

the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm versions. This

uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that it may have

some issues [see the site's history/update information].

--

MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

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| Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall

group and

| the security group and they pointed me to http://www.oldapps.com/. I did

not see

| Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works with

windows

| 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone have

a

| recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure it is

suggested

| for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

|

May 28, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing it. and took up a

lot of space. But thanks.

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:uzBnWROwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better security, then

> one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is far better

> than one that is setup for general usage.

> This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request information

> on what to do with the connection or files until you have *trained* them or

> written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know whether a file

> or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to attempt to use

> one of these as you might accidentally allow something that shouldn't be.

>

> If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of firewall, then

> the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm versions. This

> uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that it may have

> some issues [see the site's history/update information].

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483d88fd$0$11619$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall

> group and

> | the security group and they pointed me to http://www.oldapps.com/. I did

> not see

> | Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works with

> windows

> | 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone have

> a

> | recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure it is

> suggested

> | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

> |

>

May 28, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

MEB, In spite of the problems, I really liked Zone Alarm and felt secure with it. (by

the way, in the 9 years I have been using the computer (this one), I have never had a

virus, Trojan Horse or anything stronger than a tracking cookie. This I attribute to

asking for advice from people who knew more than I did. My son has had many, many. He

is brilliant at other things but won't take time to use recourses. Believe it or not

he calls me for help and sends his important data for me to store! I don't even have

back ups. That is why it is important that this computer doesn't die before I get a

new one.

Is there a version you can give me that I can download that works well with Windows

98se? They have very good forums (or had), and I don't have to write e-mails to

Russia that get answered 5 days later. Thank you. Ginny

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483dcfd8$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing it. and took up a

> lot of space. But thanks.

> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:uzBnWROwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better security, then

> > one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is far better

> > than one that is setup for general usage.

> > This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request information

> > on what to do with the connection or files until you have *trained* them or

> > written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know whether a file

> > or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to attempt to use

> > one of these as you might accidentally allow something that shouldn't be.

> >

> > If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of firewall, then

> > the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm versions. This

> > uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that it may have

> > some issues [see the site's history/update information].

> >

> > --

> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > --

> > _________

> >

> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:483d88fd$0$11619$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> > | Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall

> > group and

> > | the security group and they pointed me to http://www.oldapps.com/. I did

> > not see

> > | Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works with

> > windows

> > | 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone have

> > a

> > | recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure it is

> > suggested

> > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

> > |

> >

>

May 28, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

In article <483d88fd$0$11619$607ed4bc@cv.net>, ginnyrn5@nospam.com

says...

> Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall group

and

> the security group and they pointed me to http://www.oldapps.com/. I did not see

> Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works with windows

> 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone have a

> recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure it is

suggested

> for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

>

I have been running Sygate Pro v5.5-2710 on my Win98 for quite a few

years. Prior to that I was running Sygate v4.x. Soon after I got Win98

I realized I needed a firewall.

ZoneAlarm, Kero, and Sygate were all popular then--I flipped a

coin and got Sygate. Sygate has served me well all this time.

If I had problems, it was me not the software. he he

Casey

May 29, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

On May 28, 7:50 pm, Casey <Ca...@notspecified.net> wrote:

> In article <483d88fd$0$11619$607ed...@cv.net>, ginny...@nospam.com

> says...> Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall group

> and

> > the security group and they pointed me tohttp://www.oldapps.com/. I did not see

> > Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works with windows

> > 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone have a

> > recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure it is

> suggested

> > for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

>

> I have been running Sygate Pro v5.5-2710 on my Win98 for quite a few

> years. Prior to that I was running Sygate v4.x. Soon after I got Win98

> I realized I needed a firewall.

> ZoneAlarm, Kero, and Sygate were all popular then--I flipped a

> coin and got Sygate. Sygate has served me well all this time.

> If I had problems, it was me not the software. he he

> Casey

I am using Sygate 5.5 2710 (the version for Win98SE) very

successfully, along with Avast, Super AntiSpyware Free, Spyware

Blaster. As a non-techie, this combination seems to keep my computer

very secure.

May 29, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

Again, this will be your choice, the best available is generally rules based

as I previously indicated.

Any recommended Zone Alarm is beyond support and considered as defunct, but

so is the OS so...

http://www.oldapps.com/old_version_download_ZoneAlarm.php

Perhaps someone can apprise you of what would be best for you, or you may

remember what version you were using.

I went right up to the last year or so before support end using ZA, but I

have no persoanl information on the last versions.

--

MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483de3c0$0$11634$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| MEB, In spite of the problems, I really liked Zone Alarm and felt secure

with it. (by

| the way, in the 9 years I have been using the computer (this one), I have

never had a

| virus, Trojan Horse or anything stronger than a tracking cookie. This I

attribute to

| asking for advice from people who knew more than I did. My son has had

many, many. He

| is brilliant at other things but won't take time to use recourses. Believe

it or not

| he calls me for help and sends his important data for me to store! I don't

even have

| back ups. That is why it is important that this computer doesn't die

before I get a

| new one.

| Is there a version you can give me that I can download that works well

with Windows

| 98se? They have very good forums (or had), and I don't have to write

e-mails to

| Russia that get answered 5 days later. Thank you. Ginny

|

| "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| news:483dcfd8$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing it.

and took up a

| > lot of space. But thanks.

| > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > news:uzBnWROwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > > That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better security,

then

| > > one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is far

better

| > > than one that is setup for general usage.

| > > This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request

information

| > > on what to do with the connection or files until you have *trained*

them or

| > > written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know whether a

file

| > > or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to attempt

to use

| > > one of these as you might accidentally allow something that shouldn't

be.

| > >

| > > If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of firewall,

then

| > > the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm versions.

This

| > > uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that it may

have

| > > some issues [see the site's history/update information].

| > >

| > > --

| > > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > > --

| > > _________

| > >

| > > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > > news:483d88fd$0$11619$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > > | Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the

firewall

| > > group and

| > > | the security group and they pointed me to http://www.oldapps.com/. I

did

| > > not see

| > > | Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works

with

| > > windows

| > > | 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone

have

| > > a

| > > | recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure

it is

| > > suggested

| > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

| > > |

| > >

| >

|

May 29, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

Thanks, What version was that? the one you installed? Ginny

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:egoP%23gSwIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Again, this will be your choice, the best available is generally rules based

> as I previously indicated.

> Any recommended Zone Alarm is beyond support and considered as defunct, but

> so is the OS so...

>

> http://www.oldapps.com/old_version_download_ZoneAlarm.php

>

> Perhaps someone can apprise you of what would be best for you, or you may

> remember what version you were using.

> I went right up to the last year or so before support end using ZA, but I

> have no persoanl information on the last versions.

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483de3c0$0$11634$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | MEB, In spite of the problems, I really liked Zone Alarm and felt secure

> with it. (by

> | the way, in the 9 years I have been using the computer (this one), I have

> never had a

> | virus, Trojan Horse or anything stronger than a tracking cookie. This I

> attribute to

> | asking for advice from people who knew more than I did. My son has had

> many, many. He

> | is brilliant at other things but won't take time to use recourses. Believe

> it or not

> | he calls me for help and sends his important data for me to store! I don't

> even have

> | back ups. That is why it is important that this computer doesn't die

> before I get a

> | new one.

> | Is there a version you can give me that I can download that works well

> with Windows

> | 98se? They have very good forums (or had), and I don't have to write

> e-mails to

> | Russia that get answered 5 days later. Thank you. Ginny

> |

> | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | news:483dcfd8$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing it.

> and took up a

> | > lot of space. But thanks.

> | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > news:uzBnWROwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > > That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better security,

> then

> | > > one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is far

> better

> | > > than one that is setup for general usage.

> | > > This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request

> information

> | > > on what to do with the connection or files until you have *trained*

> them or

> | > > written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know whether a

> file

> | > > or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to attempt

> to use

> | > > one of these as you might accidentally allow something that shouldn't

> be.

> | > >

> | > > If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of firewall,

> then

> | > > the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm versions.

> This

> | > > uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that it may

> have

> | > > some issues [see the site's history/update information].

> | > >

> | > > --

> | > > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > > --

> | > > _________

> | > >

> | > > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > > news:483d88fd$0$11619$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > > | Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the

> firewall

> | > > group and

> | > > | the security group and they pointed me to http://www.oldapps.com/. I

> did

> | > > not see

> | > > | Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works

> with

> | > > windows

> | > > | 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone

> have

> | > > a

> | > > | recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure

> it is

> | > > suggested

> | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

> | > > |

> | > >

> | >

> |

>

May 29, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

"O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in

news:OGp#c3VwIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> Hello:

>

> If you are interested in installing Zone Alarm for Win

> 98/ME, go to the Zone Alarm Free product page (

> http://www.zonealarm.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_

> list_za.jsp ) and click on the systems

> requirement link

> (http://www.zonealarm.com/store/catalog/products/modules/zna

> lm/sys_req.jsp ).

>

> This will show, in part, the following:

>

> Windows 98se/ME Support Discontinued

> On July 11, 2006, Microsoft will end support for

> Windows 98, 98SE and

> Me, which will have the resulting effect of making these

> operating systems less secure

> (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/support/endofsupport.mspx)

> . Windows 98/Me are older operating systems, and therefore

> inherently more vulnerable to attacks than newer operating

> systems. Now that Microsoft will no longer provide security

> updates to this operating system it will become

> increasingly prone to security vulnerabilities.

95 and 98 are vastly more secure than XP (let alone Disasta) not

to mention half of those OS's is not MS/RIAA/MPAA/NSA spyware

and backdoors.

--

We look at each other; see that we do not know each other,

stare, and go off. Such looks are lashes. I feel the whole

cruelty and indifference of the world in them.

- Virginia Woolf

May 29, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

Let's do this, try using Sygate for awhile, it won't take long to get it

configured, and see if you can live with it. If you can't, then I'll supply

some more information and dig out the old info,,, OR we'll help you setup

Kerio PF,,, sound like a good deal?

--

MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483e10ea$0$15158$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| Thanks, What version was that? the one you installed? Ginny

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:egoP%23gSwIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > Again, this will be your choice, the best available is generally rules

based

| > as I previously indicated.

| > Any recommended Zone Alarm is beyond support and considered as defunct,

but

| > so is the OS so...

| >

| > http://www.oldapps.com/old_version_download_ZoneAlarm.php

| >

| > Perhaps someone can apprise you of what would be best for you, or you

may

| > remember what version you were using.

| > I went right up to the last year or so before support end using ZA, but

I

| > have no persoanl information on the last versions.

| >

| > --

| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > news:483de3c0$0$11634$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > | MEB, In spite of the problems, I really liked Zone Alarm and felt

secure

| > with it. (by

| > | the way, in the 9 years I have been using the computer (this one), I

have

| > never had a

| > | virus, Trojan Horse or anything stronger than a tracking cookie. This

I

| > attribute to

| > | asking for advice from people who knew more than I did. My son has had

| > many, many. He

| > | is brilliant at other things but won't take time to use recourses.

Believe

| > it or not

| > | he calls me for help and sends his important data for me to store! I

don't

| > even have

| > | back ups. That is why it is important that this computer doesn't die

| > before I get a

| > | new one.

| > | Is there a version you can give me that I can download that works

well

| > with Windows

| > | 98se? They have very good forums (or had), and I don't have to write

| > e-mails to

| > | Russia that get answered 5 days later. Thank you. Ginny

| > |

| > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > | news:483dcfd8$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > | > I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing

it.

| > and took up a

| > | > lot of space. But thanks.

| > | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > news:uzBnWROwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | > > That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better

security,

| > then

| > | > > one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is

far

| > better

| > | > > than one that is setup for general usage.

| > | > > This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request

| > information

| > | > > on what to do with the connection or files until you have

*trained*

| > them or

| > | > > written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know

whether a

| > file

| > | > > or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to

attempt

| > to use

| > | > > one of these as you might accidentally allow something that

shouldn't

| > be.

| > | > >

| > | > > If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of

firewall,

| > then

| > | > > the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm

versions.

| > This

| > | > > uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that it

may

| > have

| > | > > some issues [see the site's history/update information].

| > | > >

| > | > > --

| > | > > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > > --

| > | > > _________

| > | > >

| > | > > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

| > | > > news:483d88fd$0$11619$607ed4bc@cv.net...

| > | > > | Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the

| > firewall

| > | > > group and

| > | > > | the security group and they pointed me to

http://www.oldapps.com/. I

| > did

| > | > > not see

| > | > > | Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it

works

| > with

| > | > > windows

| > | > > | 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does

anyone

| > have

| > | > > a

| > | > > | recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not

sure

| > it is

| > | > > suggested

| > | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

| > | > > |

| > | > >

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 29, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

Great. Thank you. Ginny

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:udU0swUwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Let's do this, try using Sygate for awhile, it won't take long to get it

> configured, and see if you can live with it. If you can't, then I'll supply

> some more information and dig out the old info,,, OR we'll help you setup

> Kerio PF,,, sound like a good deal?

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483e10ea$0$15158$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | Thanks, What version was that? the one you installed? Ginny

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:egoP%23gSwIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > Again, this will be your choice, the best available is generally rules

> based

> | > as I previously indicated.

> | > Any recommended Zone Alarm is beyond support and considered as defunct,

> but

> | > so is the OS so...

> | >

> | > http://www.oldapps.com/old_version_download_ZoneAlarm.php

> | >

> | > Perhaps someone can apprise you of what would be best for you, or you

> may

> | > remember what version you were using.

> | > I went right up to the last year or so before support end using ZA, but

> I

> | > have no persoanl information on the last versions.

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > news:483de3c0$0$11634$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > | MEB, In spite of the problems, I really liked Zone Alarm and felt

> secure

> | > with it. (by

> | > | the way, in the 9 years I have been using the computer (this one), I

> have

> | > never had a

> | > | virus, Trojan Horse or anything stronger than a tracking cookie. This

> I

> | > attribute to

> | > | asking for advice from people who knew more than I did. My son has had

> | > many, many. He

> | > | is brilliant at other things but won't take time to use recourses.

> Believe

> | > it or not

> | > | he calls me for help and sends his important data for me to store! I

> don't

> | > even have

> | > | back ups. That is why it is important that this computer doesn't die

> | > before I get a

> | > | new one.

> | > | Is there a version you can give me that I can download that works

> well

> | > with Windows

> | > | 98se? They have very good forums (or had), and I don't have to write

> | > e-mails to

> | > | Russia that get answered 5 days later. Thank you. Ginny

> | > |

> | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:483dcfd8$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > | > I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing

> it.

> | > and took up a

> | > | > lot of space. But thanks.

> | > | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > news:uzBnWROwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | > > That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better

> security,

> | > then

> | > | > > one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is

> far

> | > better

> | > | > > than one that is setup for general usage.

> | > | > > This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request

> | > information

> | > | > > on what to do with the connection or files until you have

> *trained*

> | > them or

> | > | > > written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know

> whether a

> | > file

> | > | > > or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to

> attempt

> | > to use

> | > | > > one of these as you might accidentally allow something that

> shouldn't

> | > be.

> | > | > >

> | > | > > If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of

> firewall,

> | > then

> | > | > > the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm

> versions.

> | > This

> | > | > > uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that it

> may

> | > have

> | > | > > some issues [see the site's history/update information].

> | > | > >

> | > | > > --

> | > | > > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > > --

> | > | > > _________

> | > | > >

> | > | > > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> | > | > > news:483d88fd$0$11619$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> | > | > > | Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the

> | > firewall

> | > | > > group and

> | > | > > | the security group and they pointed me to

> http://www.oldapps.com/. I

> | > did

> | > | > > not see

> | > | > > | Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it

> works

> | > with

> | > | > > windows

> | > | > > | 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does

> anyone

> | > have

> | > | > > a

> | > | > > | recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not

> sure

> | > it is

> | > | > > suggested

> | > | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

> | > | > > |

> | > | > >

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> |

>

May 29, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

Hello:

If you are interested in installing Zone Alarm for Win 98/ME, go to the Zone

Alarm Free product page (

http://www.zonealarm.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp )

and click on the systems

requirement link

(http://www.zonealarm.com/store/catalog/products/modules/znalm/sys_req.jsp ).

This will show, in part, the following:

Windows 98se/ME Support Discontinued

On July 11, 2006, Microsoft will end support for Windows 98, 98SE and

Me, which will have the resulting effect of making these operating systems

less secure (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/support/endofsupport.mspx).

Windows 98/Me are older operating systems, and therefore inherently more

vulnerable to attacks than newer operating systems. Now that Microsoft will

no longer provide security updates to this operating system it will become

increasingly prone to security vulnerabilities.

Accordingly, Check Point will cease to support Windows 98/98SE/Me with

the introduction of our version 6.5 ZoneAlarm family of products including

ZoneAlarm® Internet Security Suite, ZoneAlarm® Pro, ZoneAlarm® Antivirus,

ZoneAlarm® Anti-Spyware, and ZoneAlarm®.

Note about pre-6.5 products:

a.. Pre-6.5 products will continue to run on the Windows 98/98SE/Me

operating system. However, there are a few new and advanced protection

features in ZoneAlarm products that will not run due to technical

limitations of this operating system. ZoneAlarm strongly recommends

upgrading to a supported and current version of the Windows operating

system.

b.. ZoneAlarm may end services to pre-6.5 products at any time."

So you will want to download the last build of Zone Alarm 6.1, which is

shown as 6.1.744.001 at

(

http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/information/znalm/zaReleaseHistory.html).

It can also be

downloaded from this page..

Cheers,

O.J.

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:483e10ea$0$15158$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Thanks, What version was that? the one you installed? Ginny

>

> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:egoP%23gSwIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Again, this will be your choice, the best available is generally rules

>> based

>> as I previously indicated.

>> Any recommended Zone Alarm is beyond support and considered as defunct,

>> but

>> so is the OS so...

>>

>> http://www.oldapps.com/old_version_download_ZoneAlarm.php

>>

>> Perhaps someone can apprise you of what would be best for you, or you

>> may

>> remember what version you were using.

>> I went right up to the last year or so before support end using ZA, but I

>> have no persoanl information on the last versions.

>>

>> --

>> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> --

>> _________

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483de3c0$0$11634$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> | MEB, In spite of the problems, I really liked Zone Alarm and felt

>> secure

>> with it. (by

>> | the way, in the 9 years I have been using the computer (this one), I

>> have

>> never had a

>> | virus, Trojan Horse or anything stronger than a tracking cookie. This I

>> attribute to

>> | asking for advice from people who knew more than I did. My son has had

>> many, many. He

>> | is brilliant at other things but won't take time to use recourses.

>> Believe

>> it or not

>> | he calls me for help and sends his important data for me to store! I

>> don't

>> even have

>> | back ups. That is why it is important that this computer doesn't die

>> before I get a

>> | new one.

>> | Is there a version you can give me that I can download that works

>> well

>> with Windows

>> | 98se? They have very good forums (or had), and I don't have to write

>> e-mails to

>> | Russia that get answered 5 days later. Thank you. Ginny

>> |

>> | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> | news:483dcfd8$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> | > I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing it.

>> and took up a

>> | > lot of space. But thanks.

>> | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> | > news:uzBnWROwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> | > > That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better

>> security,

>> then

>> | > > one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is

>> far

>> better

>> | > > than one that is setup for general usage.

>> | > > This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request

>> information

>> | > > on what to do with the connection or files until you have *trained*

>> them or

>> | > > written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know whether

>> a

>> file

>> | > > or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to

>> attempt

>> to use

>> | > > one of these as you might accidentally allow something that

>> shouldn't

>> be.

>> | > >

>> | > > If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of

>> firewall,

>> then

>> | > > the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm

>> versions.

>> This

>> | > > uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that it

>> may

>> have

>> | > > some issues [see the site's history/update information].

>> | > >

>> | > > --

>> | > > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> | > > --

>> | > > _________

>> | > >

>> | > > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> | > > news:483d88fd$0$11619$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> | > > | Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the

>> firewall

>> | > > group and

>> | > > | the security group and they pointed me to

>> http://www.oldapps.com/. I

>> did

>> | > > not see

>> | > > | Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works

>> with

>> | > > windows

>> | > > | 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does

>> anyone

>> have

>> | > > a

>> | > > | recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not

>> sure

>> it is

>> | > > suggested

>> | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

>> | > > |

>> | > >

>> | >

>> |

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

Does ZA rely upon any "definitions" updates (not sure what to call them...

Rules? Or can it stand on its own once installed on Win9x?

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message

news:OGp%23c3VwIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Hello:

>

> If you are interested in installing Zone Alarm for Win 98/ME, go to the

> Zone Alarm Free product page (

> http://www.zonealarm.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp )

> and click on the systems

> requirement link

> (http://www.zonealarm.com/store/catalog/products/modules/znalm/sys_req.jsp

> ).

>

> This will show, in part, the following:

>

> Windows 98se/ME Support Discontinued

> On July 11, 2006, Microsoft will end support for Windows 98, 98SE and

> Me, which will have the resulting effect of making these operating systems

> less secure (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/support/endofsupport.mspx).

> Windows 98/Me are older operating systems, and therefore inherently more

> vulnerable to attacks than newer operating systems. Now that Microsoft

> will no longer provide security updates to this operating system it will

> become increasingly prone to security vulnerabilities.

>

> Accordingly, Check Point will cease to support Windows 98/98SE/Me

> with the introduction of our version 6.5 ZoneAlarm family of products

> including ZoneAlarm® Internet Security Suite, ZoneAlarm® Pro, ZoneAlarm®

> Antivirus, ZoneAlarm® Anti-Spyware, and ZoneAlarm®.

>

> Note about pre-6.5 products:

>

> a.. Pre-6.5 products will continue to run on the Windows 98/98SE/Me

> operating system. However, there are a few new and advanced protection

> features in ZoneAlarm products that will not run due to technical

> limitations of this operating system. ZoneAlarm strongly recommends

> upgrading to a supported and current version of the Windows operating

> system.

> b.. ZoneAlarm may end services to pre-6.5 products at any time."

>

> So you will want to download the last build of Zone Alarm 6.1, which is

> shown as 6.1.744.001 at

> (

> http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/information/znalm/zaReleaseHistory.html).

> It can also be

> downloaded from this page..

>

> Cheers,

> O.J.

>

> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:483e10ea$0$15158$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> Thanks, What version was that? the one you installed? Ginny

>>

>> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:egoP%23gSwIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Again, this will be your choice, the best available is generally rules

>>> based

>>> as I previously indicated.

>>> Any recommended Zone Alarm is beyond support and considered as defunct,

>>> but

>>> so is the OS so...

>>>

>>> http://www.oldapps.com/old_version_download_ZoneAlarm.php

>>>

>>> Perhaps someone can apprise you of what would be best for you, or you

>>> may

>>> remember what version you were using.

>>> I went right up to the last year or so before support end using ZA, but

>>> I

>>> have no persoanl information on the last versions.

>>>

>>> --

>>> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>>> --

>>> _________

>>>

>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:483de3c0$0$11634$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>> | MEB, In spite of the problems, I really liked Zone Alarm and felt

>>> secure

>>> with it. (by

>>> | the way, in the 9 years I have been using the computer (this one), I

>>> have

>>> never had a

>>> | virus, Trojan Horse or anything stronger than a tracking cookie. This

>>> I

>>> attribute to

>>> | asking for advice from people who knew more than I did. My son has had

>>> many, many. He

>>> | is brilliant at other things but won't take time to use recourses.

>>> Believe

>>> it or not

>>> | he calls me for help and sends his important data for me to store! I

>>> don't

>>> even have

>>> | back ups. That is why it is important that this computer doesn't die

>>> before I get a

>>> | new one.

>>> | Is there a version you can give me that I can download that works

>>> well

>>> with Windows

>>> | 98se? They have very good forums (or had), and I don't have to write

>>> e-mails to

>>> | Russia that get answered 5 days later. Thank you. Ginny

>>> |

>>> | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> | news:483dcfd8$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>> | > I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing

>>> it.

>>> and took up a

>>> | > lot of space. But thanks.

>>> | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> | > news:uzBnWROwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> | > > That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better

>>> security,

>>> then

>>> | > > one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is

>>> far

>>> better

>>> | > > than one that is setup for general usage.

>>> | > > This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request

>>> information

>>> | > > on what to do with the connection or files until you have

>>> *trained*

>>> them or

>>> | > > written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know

>>> whether a

>>> file

>>> | > > or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to

>>> attempt

>>> to use

>>> | > > one of these as you might accidentally allow something that

>>> shouldn't

>>> be.

>>> | > >

>>> | > > If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of

>>> firewall,

>>> then

>>> | > > the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm

>>> versions.

>>> This

>>> | > > uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that it

>>> may

>>> have

>>> | > > some issues [see the site's history/update information].

>>> | > >

>>> | > > --

>>> | > > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>>> | > > --

>>> | > > _________

>>> | > >

>>> | > > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> | > > news:483d88fd$0$11619$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>> | > > | Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the

>>> firewall

>>> | > > group and

>>> | > > | the security group and they pointed me to

>>> http://www.oldapps.com/. I

>>> did

>>> | > > not see

>>> | > > | Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it

>>> works

>>> with

>>> | > > windows

>>> | > > | 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does

>>> anyone

>>> have

>>> | > > a

>>> | > > | recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not

>>> sure

>>> it is

>>> | > > suggested

>>> | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

>>> | > > |

>>> | > >

>>> | >

>>> |

>>>

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

Hi Gary!

My experience with Zone Alarm is that it does *not* rely on any definitions

updates, but stands on its own.

The only updating that is done (in my experience) is that of asking the user

for permission when a program on the PC attempts to access the Internet. It

does this my means of a simple dialog box when a program attempts to access

the Internet for the first time, or if the program executable has been

changed.

This record (rules) of allowed and dis-allowed programs in maintained in a

table that is easily accessed by the user in case they want to change any of

the permissions previously granted or denied.

HTH,

O.J.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:OX5r1EWwIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Does ZA rely upon any "definitions" updates (not sure what to call them...

> Rules? Or can it stand on its own once installed on Win9x?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message

> news:OGp%23c3VwIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Hello:

>>

>> If you are interested in installing Zone Alarm for Win 98/ME, go to the

>> Zone Alarm Free product page (

>> http://www.zonealarm.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp )

>> and click on the systems

>> requirement link

>> (http://www.zonealarm.com/store/catalog/products/modules/znalm/sys_req.jsp

>> ).

>>

>> This will show, in part, the following:

>>

>> Windows 98se/ME Support Discontinued

>> On July 11, 2006, Microsoft will end support for Windows 98, 98SE

>> and Me, which will have the resulting effect of making these operating

>> systems less secure

>> (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/support/endofsupport.mspx). Windows

>> 98/Me are older operating systems, and therefore inherently more

>> vulnerable to attacks than newer operating systems. Now that Microsoft

>> will no longer provide security updates to this operating system it will

>> become increasingly prone to security vulnerabilities.

>>

>> Accordingly, Check Point will cease to support Windows 98/98SE/Me

>> with the introduction of our version 6.5 ZoneAlarm family of products

>> including ZoneAlarm® Internet Security Suite, ZoneAlarm® Pro, ZoneAlarm®

>> Antivirus, ZoneAlarm® Anti-Spyware, and ZoneAlarm®.

>>

>> Note about pre-6.5 products:

>>

>> a.. Pre-6.5 products will continue to run on the Windows

>> 98/98SE/Me operating system. However, there are a few new and advanced

>> protection features in ZoneAlarm products that will not run due to

>> technical limitations of this operating system. ZoneAlarm strongly

>> recommends upgrading to a supported and current version of the Windows

>> operating system.

>> b.. ZoneAlarm may end services to pre-6.5 products at any time."

>>

>> So you will want to download the last build of Zone Alarm 6.1, which is

>> shown as 6.1.744.001 at

>> (

>> http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/information/znalm/zaReleaseHistory.html).

>> It can also be

>> downloaded from this page..

>>

>> Cheers,

>> O.J.

>>

>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:483e10ea$0$15158$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>> Thanks, What version was that? the one you installed? Ginny

>>>

>>> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:egoP%23gSwIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Again, this will be your choice, the best available is generally rules

>>>> based

>>>> as I previously indicated.

>>>> Any recommended Zone Alarm is beyond support and considered as defunct,

>>>> but

>>>> so is the OS so...

>>>>

>>>> http://www.oldapps.com/old_version_download_ZoneAlarm.php

>>>>

>>>> Perhaps someone can apprise you of what would be best for you, or you

>>>> may

>>>> remember what version you were using.

>>>> I went right up to the last year or so before support end using ZA, but

>>>> I

>>>> have no persoanl information on the last versions.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>>>> --

>>>> _________

>>>>

>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:483de3c0$0$11634$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>>> | MEB, In spite of the problems, I really liked Zone Alarm and felt

>>>> secure

>>>> with it. (by

>>>> | the way, in the 9 years I have been using the computer (this one), I

>>>> have

>>>> never had a

>>>> | virus, Trojan Horse or anything stronger than a tracking cookie. This

>>>> I

>>>> attribute to

>>>> | asking for advice from people who knew more than I did. My son has

>>>> had

>>>> many, many. He

>>>> | is brilliant at other things but won't take time to use recourses.

>>>> Believe

>>>> it or not

>>>> | he calls me for help and sends his important data for me to store! I

>>>> don't

>>>> even have

>>>> | back ups. That is why it is important that this computer doesn't die

>>>> before I get a

>>>> | new one.

>>>> | Is there a version you can give me that I can download that works

>>>> well

>>>> with Windows

>>>> | 98se? They have very good forums (or had), and I don't have to write

>>>> e-mails to

>>>> | Russia that get answered 5 days later. Thank you. Ginny

>>>> |

>>>> | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> | news:483dcfd8$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>>> | > I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing

>>>> it.

>>>> and took up a

>>>> | > lot of space. But thanks.

>>>> | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> | > news:uzBnWROwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> | > > That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better

>>>> security,

>>>> then

>>>> | > > one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance] is

>>>> far

>>>> better

>>>> | > > than one that is setup for general usage.

>>>> | > > This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request

>>>> information

>>>> | > > on what to do with the connection or files until you have

>>>> *trained*

>>>> them or

>>>> | > > written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know

>>>> whether a

>>>> file

>>>> | > > or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to

>>>> attempt

>>>> to use

>>>> | > > one of these as you might accidentally allow something that

>>>> shouldn't

>>>> be.

>>>> | > >

>>>> | > > If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of

>>>> firewall,

>>>> then

>>>> | > > the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm

>>>> versions.

>>>> This

>>>> | > > uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that it

>>>> may

>>>> have

>>>> | > > some issues [see the site's history/update information].

>>>> | > >

>>>> | > > --

>>>> | > > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>>>> | > > --

>>>> | > > _________

>>>> | > >

>>>> | > > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> | > > news:483d88fd$0$11619$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>>> | > > | Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of

>>>> the

>>>> firewall

>>>> | > > group and

>>>> | > > | the security group and they pointed me to

>>>> http://www.oldapps.com/. I

>>>> did

>>>> | > > not see

>>>> | > > | Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it

>>>> works

>>>> with

>>>> | > > windows

>>>> | > > | 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does

>>>> anyone

>>>> have

>>>> | > > a

>>>> | > > | recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not

>>>> sure

>>>> it is

>>>> | > > suggested

>>>> | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

>>>> | > > |

>>>> | > >

>>>> | >

>>>> |

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

Thanks!

So it's like Sygate, then, and requires full training at the outset? Have

you seen our Sygate discussion from today?

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message

news:ObgvYWWwIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Hi Gary!

>

> My experience with Zone Alarm is that it does *not* rely on any

> definitions updates, but stands on its own.

>

> The only updating that is done (in my experience) is that of asking the

> user for permission when a program on the PC attempts to access the

> Internet. It does this my means of a simple dialog box when a program

> attempts to access the Internet for the first time, or if the program

> executable has been changed.

>

> This record (rules) of allowed and dis-allowed programs in maintained in a

> table that is easily accessed by the user in case they want to change any

> of the permissions previously granted or denied.

>

> HTH,

> O.J.

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:OX5r1EWwIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Does ZA rely upon any "definitions" updates (not sure what to call

>> them... Rules? Or can it stand on its own once installed on Win9x?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "O.J. Newman" <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote in message

>> news:OGp%23c3VwIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Hello:

>>>

>>> If you are interested in installing Zone Alarm for Win 98/ME, go to the

>>> Zone Alarm Free product page (

>>> http://www.zonealarm.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp

>>> ) and click on the systems

>>> requirement link

>>> (http://www.zonealarm.com/store/catalog/products/modules/znalm/sys_req.jsp

>>> ).

>>>

>>> This will show, in part, the following:

>>>

>>> Windows 98se/ME Support Discontinued

>>> On July 11, 2006, Microsoft will end support for Windows 98, 98SE

>>> and Me, which will have the resulting effect of making these operating

>>> systems less secure

>>> (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/support/endofsupport.mspx). Windows

>>> 98/Me are older operating systems, and therefore inherently more

>>> vulnerable to attacks than newer operating systems. Now that Microsoft

>>> will no longer provide security updates to this operating system it will

>>> become increasingly prone to security vulnerabilities.

>>>

>>> Accordingly, Check Point will cease to support Windows 98/98SE/Me

>>> with the introduction of our version 6.5 ZoneAlarm family of products

>>> including ZoneAlarm® Internet Security Suite, ZoneAlarm® Pro, ZoneAlarm®

>>> Antivirus, ZoneAlarm® Anti-Spyware, and ZoneAlarm®.

>>>

>>> Note about pre-6.5 products:

>>>

>>> a.. Pre-6.5 products will continue to run on the Windows

>>> 98/98SE/Me operating system. However, there are a few new and advanced

>>> protection features in ZoneAlarm products that will not run due to

>>> technical limitations of this operating system. ZoneAlarm strongly

>>> recommends upgrading to a supported and current version of the Windows

>>> operating system.

>>> b.. ZoneAlarm may end services to pre-6.5 products at any time."

>>>

>>> So you will want to download the last build of Zone Alarm 6.1, which is

>>> shown as 6.1.744.001 at

>>> (

>>> http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/information/znalm/zaReleaseHistory.html).

>>> It can also be

>>> downloaded from this page..

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>> O.J.

>>>

>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:483e10ea$0$15158$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>>> Thanks, What version was that? the one you installed? Ginny

>>>>

>>>> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:egoP%23gSwIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Again, this will be your choice, the best available is generally rules

>>>>> based

>>>>> as I previously indicated.

>>>>> Any recommended Zone Alarm is beyond support and considered as

>>>>> defunct, but

>>>>> so is the OS so...

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.oldapps.com/old_version_download_ZoneAlarm.php

>>>>>

>>>>> Perhaps someone can apprise you of what would be best for you, or you

>>>>> may

>>>>> remember what version you were using.

>>>>> I went right up to the last year or so before support end using ZA,

>>>>> but I

>>>>> have no persoanl information on the last versions.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>>>>> --

>>>>> _________

>>>>>

>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:483de3c0$0$11634$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>>>> | MEB, In spite of the problems, I really liked Zone Alarm and felt

>>>>> secure

>>>>> with it. (by

>>>>> | the way, in the 9 years I have been using the computer (this one), I

>>>>> have

>>>>> never had a

>>>>> | virus, Trojan Horse or anything stronger than a tracking cookie.

>>>>> This I

>>>>> attribute to

>>>>> | asking for advice from people who knew more than I did. My son has

>>>>> had

>>>>> many, many. He

>>>>> | is brilliant at other things but won't take time to use recourses.

>>>>> Believe

>>>>> it or not

>>>>> | he calls me for help and sends his important data for me to store! I

>>>>> don't

>>>>> even have

>>>>> | back ups. That is why it is important that this computer doesn't die

>>>>> before I get a

>>>>> | new one.

>>>>> | Is there a version you can give me that I can download that works

>>>>> well

>>>>> with Windows

>>>>> | 98se? They have very good forums (or had), and I don't have to write

>>>>> e-mails to

>>>>> | Russia that get answered 5 days later. Thank you. Ginny

>>>>> |

>>>>> | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>> | news:483dcfd8$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>>>> | > I used to have Zone Alarm, years ago. I spent half my life fixing

>>>>> it.

>>>>> and took up a

>>>>> | > lot of space. But thanks.

>>>>> | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> | > news:uzBnWROwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> | > > That's a difficult question to answer. IF one wants better

>>>>> security,

>>>>> then

>>>>> | > > one like you're presently using [rules based/manual allowance]

>>>>> is far

>>>>> better

>>>>> | > > than one that is setup for general usage.

>>>>> | > > This type may be daunting to setup as they constantly request

>>>>> information

>>>>> | > > on what to do with the connection or files until you have

>>>>> *trained*

>>>>> them or

>>>>> | > > written the configuration files. IF you don't actually know

>>>>> whether a

>>>>> file

>>>>> | > > or access SHOULD be allowed, then it really makes no sense to

>>>>> attempt

>>>>> to use

>>>>> | > > one of these as you might accidentally allow something that

>>>>> shouldn't

>>>>> be.

>>>>> | > >

>>>>> | > > If you're having difficulties with setting up this type of

>>>>> firewall,

>>>>> then

>>>>> | > > the trade off is to use, perhaps, one of the old Zone Alarm

>>>>> versions.

>>>>> This

>>>>> | > > uses general settings, but is also less secure. Note also that

>>>>> it may

>>>>> have

>>>>> | > > some issues [see the site's history/update information].

>>>>> | > >

>>>>> | > > --

>>>>> | > > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>>>>> | > > --

>>>>> | > > _________

>>>>> | > >

>>>>> | > > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>> | > > news:483d88fd$0$11619$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>>>>> | > > | Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of

>>>>> the

>>>>> firewall

>>>>> | > > group and

>>>>> | > > | the security group and they pointed me to

>>>>> http://www.oldapps.com/. I

>>>>> did

>>>>> | > > not see

>>>>> | > > | Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it

>>>>> works

>>>>> with

>>>>> | > > windows

>>>>> | > > | 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does

>>>>> anyone

>>>>> have

>>>>> | > > a

>>>>> | > > | recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am

>>>>> not sure

>>>>> it is

>>>>> | > > suggested

>>>>> | > > | for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

>>>>> | > > |

>>>>> | > >

>>>>> | >

>>>>> |

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: Which firewall is best for Win98se

In article <0f66abd7-4d01-4c61-9cde-

85ac4fdfcaec@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, pixturesk@gmail.com says...

> On May 28, 7:50 pm, Casey <Ca...@notspecified.net> wrote:

> > In article <483d88fd$0$11619$607ed...@cv.net>, ginny...@nospam.com

> > says...> Which firewall is best for Win98se. I asked this question of the firewall group

> > and

> > > the security group and they pointed me tohttp://www.oldapps.com/. I did not see

> > > Kerio there as someone had suggested. I am not sure that it works with windows

> > > 98..They also told me to change my OS or get a new P.C. Does anyone have a

> > > recommendation? I downloaded Sygate 5.5 build 2577,but I am not sure it is

> > suggested

> > > for win98. I know the newer build up isn't. Any suggestions?

> >

> > I have been running Sygate Pro v5.5-2710 on my Win98 for quite a few

> > years. Prior to that I was running Sygate v4.x. Soon after I got Win98

> > I realized I needed a firewall.

> > ZoneAlarm, Kero, and Sygate were all popular then--I flipped a

> > coin and got Sygate. Sygate has served me well all this time.

> > If I had problems, it was me not the software. he he

> > Casey

>

> I am using Sygate 5.5 2710 (the version for Win98SE) very

> successfully, along with Avast, Super AntiSpyware Free, Spyware

> Blaster. As a non-techie, this combination seems to keep my computer

> very secure.

>

Those are good antimalware selections. I too am using Avast,

SuperAntiSpyware, and Spybot S&D.

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