Spybot Crashes

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"S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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>I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer

> specially when I try to update or if I stop.

> Sol

>

May 28, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

S1L1Y1 wrote:

> I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer

> specially when I try to update or if I stop.

> Sol

If you get a message saying:

"Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access

violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address

FFFFFFFF."

the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.

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May 28, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Huh!?! Spybot has some tie-in with Dr Watson? Any documentation on this?

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"Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

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> S1L1Y1 wrote:

>> I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer

>> specially when I try to update or if I stop.

>> Sol

>

> If you get a message saying:

>

> "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access

> violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address

> FFFFFFFF."

>

> the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.

>

> --

> Regards

>

> Nigel Stapley

>

http://forums.spybot.info/

>

> <reply-to will bounce>

May 28, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Spybot Support Forums

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DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

S1L1Y1 wrote:

> I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer

> specially when I try to update or if I stop.

> Sol

May 28, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Maybe this one? (No search function in those forums.)

http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=4799

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MS-MVP Shell/User

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Spybot Support Forums

> http://forums.spybot.info/ --

> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

> S1L1Y1 wrote:

>> I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer

>> specially when I try to update or if I stop.

>> Sol

May 29, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Thank You. Yes this is one of the messages I get. What do you mean by start

Dr. Watson?

Sol

"Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

news:u9KdnXQS69j7UKDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...

> S1L1Y1 wrote:

> > I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer

> > specially when I try to update or if I stop.

> > Sol

>

> If you get a message saying:

>

> "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access

> violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address

> FFFFFFFF."

>

> the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.

>

> --

> Regards

>

> Nigel Stapley

>

>

> <reply-to will bounce>

May 29, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

Sol

"Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

news:u9KdnXQS69j7UKDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...

> S1L1Y1 wrote:

> > I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer

> > specially when I try to update or if I stop.

> > Sol

>

> If you get a message saying:

>

> "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access

> violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address

> FFFFFFFF."

>

> the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.

>

> --

> Regards

>

> Nigel Stapley

>

>

> <reply-to will bounce>

May 29, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Ignore this message.

Sol

"S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:ep1SRSSwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Thank You. Yes this is one of the messages I get. What do you mean by

start

> Dr. Watson?

> Sol

> "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

> news:u9KdnXQS69j7UKDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...

> > S1L1Y1 wrote:

> > > I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer

> > > specially when I try to update or if I stop.

> > > Sol

> >

> > If you get a message saying:

> >

> > "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access

> > violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address

> > FFFFFFFF."

> >

> > the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.

> >

> > --

> > Regards

> >

> > Nigel Stapley

> >

> > http://www.thejudge.me.uk

> >

> > <reply-to will bounce>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Never mind. It finally clicked.

--

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MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uX6XYvQwIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Huh!?! Spybot has some tie-in with Dr Watson? Any documentation on this?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

> news:u9KdnXQS69j7UKDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...

>> S1L1Y1 wrote:

>>> I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer

>>> specially when I try to update or if I stop.

>>> Sol

>>

>> If you get a message saying:

>>

>> "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access

>> violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of address

>> FFFFFFFF."

>>

>> the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.

>>

>> --

>> Regards

>>

>> Nigel Stapley

>>

>> http://www.thejudge.me.uk

>>

>> <reply-to will bounce>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

You mean this one? Or the one you just posted? Or the one wondering what was

meant by "start Dr Watson"? (Just joking, mostly. You meant the Dr Watson

one, right?)

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MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.thejudge.me.uk

"S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Ignore this message.

> Sol

> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:ep1SRSSwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Thank You. Yes this is one of the messages I get. What do you mean by

> start

>> Dr. Watson?

>> Sol

>> "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

>> news:u9KdnXQS69j7UKDVnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...

>> > S1L1Y1 wrote:

>> > > I installed Spybot but it keeps on crashing and freezing my computer

>> > > specially when I try to update or if I stop.

>> > > Sol

>> >

>> > If you get a message saying:

>> >

>> > "Exception EAccessViolation in module SPYBOTSD.EXE at 002E 6098. Access

>> > violation at address 006E 609B in module 'SPYBOTSD.EXE'. Read of

>> > address

>> > FFFFFFFF."

>> >

>> > the answer is to start Dr Watsons and *then* run Spybot.

>> >

>> > --

>> > Regards

>> >

>> > Nigel Stapley

>> >

>> > http://www.thejudge.me.uk

>> >

>> > <reply-to will bounce>

>>

>

May 29, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

S1L1Y1 wrote:

> It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98 handles

memory. I'm not convinced.

Glad it worked.

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Regards

Nigel Stapley

<reply-to will bounce>

May 29, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Just curious, wasn't that supposedly fix [i remember the issue]?

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"Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

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| S1L1Y1 wrote:

| > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

|

| I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98 handles

| memory. I'm not convinced.

|

| Glad it worked.

|

| --

| Regards

|

| Nigel Stapley

|

| http://www.thejudge.me.uk

|

| <reply-to will bounce>

June 6, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Which version of SpyBot S&D?

"Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

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> S1L1Y1 wrote:

> > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

>

> I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98 handles

> memory. I'm not convinced.

>

> Glad it worked.

>

> --

> Regards

>

> Nigel Stapley

>

http://www.safer-networking.org/

>

> <reply-to will bounce>

June 8, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Version 1.5.2.20

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Which version of SpyBot S&D?

>

> "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

> news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...

> > S1L1Y1 wrote:

> > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

> >

> > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98 handles

> > memory. I'm not convinced.

> >

> > Glad it worked.

> >

> > --

> > Regards

> >

> > Nigel Stapley

> >

> > http://www.thejudge.me.uk

> >

> > <reply-to will bounce>

>

June 10, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it once and

uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only. The new

v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though they

say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked like a

charm on win98?

"S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Version 1.5.2.20

> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?

> >

> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...

> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:

> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

> > >

> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98

handles

> > > memory. I'm not convinced.

> > >

> > > Glad it worked.

> > >

> > > --

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Nigel Stapley

> > >

> > > http://www.thejudge.me.uk

> > >

> > > <reply-to will bounce>

> >

>

June 11, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Jim wrote:

| I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it

| once and uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4

| only. The new v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for

| win98/95 even though they say it is ok... Is it really any better

| than the v.1.4 which worked like a charm on win98?

Uhuh. I just took the download of SpybotSD152.exe (v.1.5.2)-- which is

9,772,720 bytes huge! Have you seen Terhune's suggestion on that...?...

.......Quote Terhune's suggestion.........

Spybot S&D (do not install Tea-Timer, SDHelper or Immunization. Just use

for

static scanning on some schedule like weekly or monthly.

.......EOQ............................................

Did you install those extras to come to your assessment-- or did you

find v.1.5.2 kills resources even just running it statically?

| "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

| news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> Version 1.5.2.20

|> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

|> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?

|> >

|> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

|> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...

|> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:

|> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

|> > >

|> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98

|> > > handles memory. I'm not convinced.

|> > >

|> > > Glad it worked.

|> > >

|> > > --

|> > > Regards

|> > >

|> > > Nigel Stapley

|> > >

|> > > http://www.thejudge.me.uk

|> > >

|> > > <reply-to will bounce>

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

June 11, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run tests

(with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get

essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI drops

from 98% to 45%.

Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything but

static scanning.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it once and

> uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only. The new

> v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though they

> say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked like a

> charm on win98?

>

> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Version 1.5.2.20

>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?

>> >

>> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

>> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...

>> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:

>> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

>> > >

>> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98

> handles

>> > > memory. I'm not convinced.

>> > >

>> > > Glad it worked.

>> > >

>> > > --

>> > > Regards

>> > >

>> > > Nigel Stapley

>> > >

>> > > http://www.thejudge.me.uk

>> > >

>> > > <reply-to will bounce>

>> >

>>

>

June 12, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

It's been awhile; I think I used the resource meter that gives: System,User

and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red; and System Properties performance

tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features on

v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I think the

program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted zones

list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT "custom"

browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security settings

and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have certain

online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast and ZA

FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard and HP

systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but as I

wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and trying to

be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run tests

> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get

> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI

drops

> from 98% to 45%.

>

> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything but

> static scanning.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it once

and

> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only. The

new

> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though

they

> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked like

a

> > charm on win98?

> >

> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> Version 1.5.2.20

> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?

> >> >

> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...

> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:

> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

> >> > >

> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98

> > handles

> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.

> >> > >

> >> > > Glad it worked.

> >> > >

> >> > > --

> >> > > Regards

> >> > >

> >> > > Nigel Stapley

> >> > >

> >> > > http://www.thejudge.me.uk

> >> > >

> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

June 12, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow, you

have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would ONLY

have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.

Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said the RM

dropped to yellow/red?

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> It's been awhile; I think I used the resource meter that gives:

> System,User

> and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red; and System Properties performance

> tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features on

> v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I think the

> program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted

> zones

> list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT

> "custom"

> browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security settings

> and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have certain

> online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast and ZA

> FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard and

> HP

> systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but as I

> wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and trying to

> be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run tests

>> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get

>> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI

> drops

>> from 98% to 45%.

>>

>> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything but

>> static scanning.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it once

> and

>> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only. The

> new

>> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though

> they

>> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked

>> > like

> a

>> > charm on win98?

>> >

>> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> Version 1.5.2.20

>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?

>> >> >

>> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

>> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...

>> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:

>> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

>> >> > >

>> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98

>> > handles

>> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Glad it worked.

>> >> > >

>> >> > > --

>> >> > > Regards

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Nigel Stapley

>> >> > >

>> >> > > http://www.thejudge.me.uk

>> >> > >

>> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

June 13, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

The latter.

Typically I am green>40% here on msoe, but not as high as I would be if I

did get rid of the startup stuff. I checked every item and the arguments are

for increased performance early on hotfixes. No spyware, adware just patches

from Netropa and HP Backweb when I still ran it. One problem they had with

this hp system in universities was a constant ping to the Backweb/Infospace

server or even MS critical updates is another. Here is a list of these:

hpsysdrv; HPScanPatch; usbmmkbd.exe; bpcpost.exe; Hidserv.exe; KeyBoard

Manager [Netropa]. The rest of the stuff is Avast or ZA or MS critical KB ~.

The classic minimum necessary startup stuff is: scanregw.exe; systray.exe;

LoadPowerProfile both run/service; taskmon.exe; mstask.exe. I also have

MSDTC and inetinfo.exe on.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:e2EGCYMzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow, you

> have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would ONLY

> have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.

>

> Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said the RM

> dropped to yellow/red?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > It's been awhile; I think I used the resource meter that gives:

> > System,User

> > and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red; and System Properties

performance

> > tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features on

> > v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I think

the

> > program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted

> > zones

> > list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT

> > "custom"

> > browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security

settings

> > and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have

certain

> > online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast and

ZA

> > FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard and

> > HP

> > systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but as

I

> > wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and trying

to

> > be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run tests

> >> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get

> >> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI

> > drops

> >> from 98% to 45%.

> >>

> >> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything

but

> >> static scanning.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> http://grystmill.com

> >>

> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it

once

> > and

> >> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only.

The

> > new

> >> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though

> > they

> >> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked

> >> > like

> > a

> >> > charm on win98?

> >> >

> >> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >> Version 1.5.2.20

> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

> >> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...

> >> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:

> >> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98

> >> > handles

> >> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > Glad it worked.

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > --

> >> >> > > Regards

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > Nigel Stapley

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > http://www.thejudge.me.uk

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

June 13, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

First thing I could suggest would be to get rid of that keyboard and all

it's supporting junk.

And about bpcpost.exe. Do you really use Microsoft Web TV?

And are you running PWS (inetinfo.exe)? If so, there's where I'd bet your

Resources went.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

news:%23H4zTnOzIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> The latter.

>

> Typically I am green>40% here on msoe, but not as high as I would be if I

> did get rid of the startup stuff. I checked every item and the arguments

> are

> for increased performance early on hotfixes. No spyware, adware just

> patches

> from Netropa and HP Backweb when I still ran it. One problem they had with

> this hp system in universities was a constant ping to the

> Backweb/Infospace

> server or even MS critical updates is another. Here is a list of these:

> hpsysdrv; HPScanPatch; usbmmkbd.exe; bpcpost.exe; Hidserv.exe; KeyBoard

> Manager [Netropa]. The rest of the stuff is Avast or ZA or MS critical KB

> ~.

> The classic minimum necessary startup stuff is: scanregw.exe;

> systray.exe;

> LoadPowerProfile both run/service; taskmon.exe; mstask.exe. I also have

> MSDTC and inetinfo.exe on.

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:e2EGCYMzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow, you

>> have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would ONLY

>> have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.

>>

>> Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said the

>> RM

>> dropped to yellow/red?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> > It's been awhile; I think I used the resource meter that gives:

>> > System,User

>> > and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red; and System Properties

> performance

>> > tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features

>> > on

>> > v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I think

> the

>> > program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted

>> > zones

>> > list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT

>> > "custom"

>> > browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security

> settings

>> > and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have

> certain

>> > online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast and

> ZA

>> > FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard

>> > and

>> > HP

>> > systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but as

> I

>> > wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and trying

> to

>> > be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run

>> >> tests

>> >> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get

>> >> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI

>> > drops

>> >> from 98% to 45%.

>> >>

>> >> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything

> but

>> >> static scanning.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> http://grystmill.com

>> >>

>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it

> once

>> > and

>> >> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only.

> The

>> > new

>> >> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though

>> > they

>> >> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked

>> >> > like

>> > a

>> >> > charm on win98?

>> >> >

>> >> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> >> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> Version 1.5.2.20

>> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...

>> >> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:

>> >> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way

>> >> >> > > 98

>> >> > handles

>> >> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > Glad it worked.

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > --

>> >> >> > > Regards

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > Nigel Stapley

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > http://www.thejudge.me.uk

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

June 15, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

Good points.

I have fiddled with them in the past, and may in the future. So I just left

them on. I should have written, with nothing on but windows and these

startup I am >58%. With just explorer on it is a wow >90%. How great win98

would have been without all the junk!

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:ek5k4CPzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> First thing I could suggest would be to get rid of that keyboard and all

> it's supporting junk.

>

> And about bpcpost.exe. Do you really use Microsoft Web TV?

>

> And are you running PWS (inetinfo.exe)? If so, there's where I'd bet your

> Resources went.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> news:%23H4zTnOzIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > The latter.

> >

> > Typically I am green>40% here on msoe, but not as high as I would be if

I

> > did get rid of the startup stuff. I checked every item and the arguments

> > are

> > for increased performance early on hotfixes. No spyware, adware just

> > patches

> > from Netropa and HP Backweb when I still ran it. One problem they had

with

> > this hp system in universities was a constant ping to the

> > Backweb/Infospace

> > server or even MS critical updates is another. Here is a list of these:

> > hpsysdrv; HPScanPatch; usbmmkbd.exe; bpcpost.exe; Hidserv.exe; KeyBoard

> > Manager [Netropa]. The rest of the stuff is Avast or ZA or MS critical

KB

> > ~.

> > The classic minimum necessary startup stuff is: scanregw.exe;

> > systray.exe;

> > LoadPowerProfile both run/service; taskmon.exe; mstask.exe. I also have

> > MSDTC and inetinfo.exe on.

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:e2EGCYMzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow,

you

> >> have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would

ONLY

> >> have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.

> >>

> >> Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said the

> >> RM

> >> dropped to yellow/red?

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> http://grystmill.com

> >>

> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> > It's been awhile; I think I used the resource meter that gives:

> >> > System,User

> >> > and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red; and System Properties

> > performance

> >> > tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features

> >> > on

> >> > v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I

think

> > the

> >> > program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted

> >> > zones

> >> > list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT

> >> > "custom"

> >> > browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security

> > settings

> >> > and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have

> > certain

> >> > online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast

and

> > ZA

> >> > FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard

> >> > and

> >> > HP

> >> > systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but

as

> > I

> >> > wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and

trying

> > to

> >> > be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.

> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> >> > news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run

> >> >> tests

> >> >> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get

> >> >> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%.

GDI

> >> > drops

> >> >> from 98% to 45%.

> >> >>

> >> >> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for

anything

> > but

> >> >> static scanning.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> >> http://grystmill.com

> >> >>

> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> >> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it

> > once

> >> > and

> >> >> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only.

> > The

> >> > new

> >> >> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even

though

> >> > they

> >> >> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which

worked

> >> >> > like

> >> > a

> >> >> > charm on win98?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >> >> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >> Version 1.5.2.20

> >> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message

> >> >> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...

> >> >> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:

> >> >> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way

> >> >> >> > > 98

> >> >> > handles

> >> >> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > > Glad it worked.

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > > --

> >> >> >> > > Regards

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > > Nigel Stapley

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > > http://www.thejudge.me.uk

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

June 15, 2008

Re: Spybot Crashes

The "great" that could have been was if Bill (or whomever) hadn't limited

User and GDI Resources to such pitifully small amounts. That is THE fatal

flaw that killed Windows 9x.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User