Guest Clear Windows Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-petitions-to-keep-xp If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" and the rest of us simply consider them silly. Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a majority of Neowin's visitors: United States: (866) 234-6020 United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 Canada: (800) 936-8479 If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive I'm still awaiting action to be taken on the petition to keep Win98 on life support! Oh, wait, we got that...twice, all due to the efforts of MS MVPs, not Neowin. Clear Windows wrote: > http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-petitions-to-keep-xp > > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to > Windows > Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was there > was > no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many online > petitions, > but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" and the rest of us > simply consider them silly. > > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). > > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're > so > nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a majority > of Neowin's visitors: > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and > then > go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.
Guest xfile Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive My two cents, I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the product provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the market or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to take the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg anyone for keeping a product or not. "Clear Windows" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... > http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-petitions-to-keep-xp > > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" > and the rest of us simply consider them silly. > > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). > > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a > majority of Neowin's visitors: > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. > >
Guest David Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: > My two cents, > > I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the product > provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the market > or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the > decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make > Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to take > the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg > anyone for keeping a product or not. > > "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message > > news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... > > >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe... > > > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying > > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough > > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to > > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was > > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many > > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" > > and the rest of us simply consider them silly. > > > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to > > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole > > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The > > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will > > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). > > > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the > > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the > > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're > > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a > > majority of Neowin's visitors: > > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, > > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and > > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority of PC users United States: (866) 234-6020 United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 Canada: (800) 936-8479 Save Windows XP
Guest Mike Hall - MVP Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive "David" <mcdonald606a@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:9105796f-4c86-405e-8b53-163630836da0@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: >> My two cents, >> >> I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the >> product >> provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the >> market >> or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the >> decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make >> Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to >> take >> the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg >> anyone for keeping a product or not. >> >> "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... >> >> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe... >> >> > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record >> > saying >> > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if >> > enough >> > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to >> > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem >> > was >> > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many >> > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official >> > complaints" >> > and the rest of us simply consider them silly. >> >> > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on >> > to >> > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the >> > sole >> > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. >> > The >> > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft >> > will >> > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). >> >> > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call >> > the >> > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the >> > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because >> > we're >> > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a >> > majority of Neowin's visitors: >> >> > United States: (866) 234-6020 >> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 >> > Canada: (800) 936-8479 >> >> > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, >> > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and >> > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. > > I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. > > Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority > of PC users > > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > Save Windows XP > > Can you put a word in for solid tires while you are at it. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
Guest dave Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive David wrote: > > Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority > of PC users > Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for most routine tasks.
Guest David Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive On May 30, 9:02 am, "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote: > "David" <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:9105796f-4c86-405e-8b53-163630836da0@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: > >> My two cents, > > >> I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the > >> product > >> provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the > >> market > >> or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the > >> decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make > >> Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to > >> take > >> the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg > >> anyone for keeping a product or not. > > >> "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... > > >> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe... > > >> > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record > >> > saying > >> > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if > >> > enough > >> > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to > >> > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem > >> > was > >> > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many > >> > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official > >> > complaints" > >> > and the rest of us simply consider them silly. > > >> > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on > >> > to > >> > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the > >> > sole > >> > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. > >> > The > >> > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft > >> > will > >> > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). > > >> > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call > >> > the > >> > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the > >> > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because > >> > we're > >> > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a > >> > majority of Neowin's visitors: > > >> > United States: (866) 234-6020 > >> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > >> > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > >> > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, > >> > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and > >> > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. > > > I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. > > > Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority > > of PC users > > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > > Save Windows XP > > Can you put a word in for solid tires while you are at it. > Your comment does not register as Humor; - Friday I cut you some slack . . > -- > Mike Hall - MVP > How to construct a good post..http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm > How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc > Mike's Window - My Blog..http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
Guest David Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive On May 30, 2:25 am, "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote: > http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe... > > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to Windows > Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was there was > no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many online petitions, > but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" and the rest of us > simply consider them silly. > > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). > > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're so > nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a majority > of Neowin's visitors: > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and then > go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. tried (866) 234-6020 got voice mail menu finally got operator Operator sweet but clueless gave me 800-677-7377
Guest Big Al Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Mike Hall - MVP wrote: > "David" <mcdonald606a@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:9105796f-4c86-405e-8b53-163630836da0@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >> On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: >>> My two cents, >>> >>> I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the >>> product >>> provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the >>> market >>> or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the >>> decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make >>> Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have >>> to take >>> the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg >>> anyone for keeping a product or not. >>> >>> "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... >>> >>> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe... >>> >>> >>> > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record >>> > saying >>> > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if > >>> enough >>> > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to >>> > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The >>> problem > was >>> > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many >>> > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official > >>> complaints" >>> > and the rest of us simply consider them silly. >>> >>> > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then >>> on > to >>> > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for >>> the > sole >>> > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows >>> XP. > The >>> > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft >>> > will >>> > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). >>> >>> > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply >>> call > the >>> > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the >>> > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because >>> > we're >>> > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a >>> > majority of Neowin's visitors: >>> >>> > United States: (866) 234-6020 >>> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 >>> > Canada: (800) 936-8479 >>> >>> > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support >>> Site, >>> > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product >>> and >>> > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. >> >> I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. >> >> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority >> of PC users >> >> >> United States: (866) 234-6020 >> United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 >> Canada: (800) 936-8479 >> >> Save Windows XP >> >> > > > Can you put a word in for solid tires while you are at it. > > My first bike had solid tires. It was cool, I could go anywhere with that bike. Early 1950's
Guest Mark L. Ferguson Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Yeah, mine too. Ya know, you'd think MS would make those again. sndrec32 "TheseAreAFewOfMyFavioriteThings.wav" -- Mark L. Ferguson "Big Al" <BigAl@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:YsT%j.2$qP.0@trnddc03... > Mike Hall - MVP wrote: >> "David" <mcdonald606a@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:9105796f-4c86-405e-8b53-163630836da0@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >>> On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: >>> Save Windows XP >>> >>> >> >> >> Can you put a word in for solid tires while you are at it. >> >> > My first bike had solid tires. It was cool, I could go anywhere with > that bike. Early 1950's
Guest C.B. Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive "David" <mcdonald606a@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4518147e-313f-4d96-bc64-5dd2b8660f47@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On May 30, 9:02 am, "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> > wrote: >> "David" <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:9105796f-4c86-405e-8b53-163630836da0@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: >> >> My two cents, >> >> >> I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the >> >> product >> >> provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the >> >> market >> >> or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making >> >> the >> >> decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make >> >> Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to >> >> take >> >> the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to >> >> beg >> >> anyone for keeping a product or not. >> >> >> "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... >> >> >> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe... >> >> >> > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record >> >> > saying >> >> > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if >> >> > enough >> >> > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to >> >> > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The >> >> > problem >> >> > was >> >> > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many >> >> > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official >> >> > complaints" >> >> > and the rest of us simply consider them silly. >> >> >> > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then >> >> > on >> >> > to >> >> > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for >> >> > the >> >> > sole >> >> > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. >> >> > The >> >> > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft >> >> > will >> >> > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). >> >> >> > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply >> >> > call >> >> > the >> >> > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the >> >> > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because >> >> > we're >> >> > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a >> >> > majority of Neowin's visitors: >> >> >> > United States: (866) 234-6020 >> >> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 >> >> > Canada: (800) 936-8479 >> >> >> > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support >> >> > Site, >> >> > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product >> >> > and >> >> > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. >> >> > I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. >> >> > Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority >> > of PC users >> >> > United States: (866) 234-6020 >> > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 >> > Canada: (800) 936-8479 >> >> > Save Windows XP >> >> Can you put a word in for solid tires while you are at it. >> > > Your comment does not register as Humor; > > - Friday I cut you some slack . . > > >> -- >> Mike Hall - MVP >> How to construct a good post..http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm >> How to use the Microsoft Product Support >> Newsgroups..http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc >> Mike's Window - My Blog..http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx That's your opinion only. I thought it was quite humorous. C.B. -- It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged and unfortunate among us. >
Guest Rene Brehmer Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote: > David wrote: > >> >> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority >> of PC users >> > Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for > most routine tasks. Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta. I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home. -- Rene Brehmer IT Technician North Hill Inn http://www.northhillinn.com
Guest Billy Smith Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive "Rene Brehmer" <rene@metalbunny.net> wrote in message news:1v0tie1m9l70g$.qlzqjiap3bc0$.dlg@40tude.net... > On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote: > >> David wrote: >> >>> >>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority >>> of PC users >>> >> Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for >> most routine tasks. > > Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of > Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a > clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta. > > I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home. > -- > Rene Brehmer > IT Technician > > North Hill Inn > http://www.northhillinn.com That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them playing music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every application you can use. No problems here just as long as you really know what you are doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem but the user not knowing how to properly operate the computer.
Guest Frank Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Rene Brehmer wrote: > > > Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap... Sorry, but that is simply not true. to come out of Richmond yet. Richmond? You must mean Redmond right? I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a > clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta. So you're saying you can't get your install of Vista to run properly? Which version of Vista do you have, and exactly what problem do you have? Frank
Guest RFI-EMI-GUY Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Billy Smith wrote: >That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them > playing music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every > application you can use. No problems here just as long as you really > know what you are doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem > but the user not knowing how to properly operate the computer. Back when I built my first computer, DOS, Windows 3.1. 386-16 16 MB Ram. It would do a lot of neat things "Just as long as you really knew what you were doing". Like writing batch files to load and unload conflicting TSR's from memory etc. Here we are 22 years later, and you still have to be some kind of "wizard" to keep Windows working. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." "Follow The Money" ;-P
Guest xfile Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive > Here we are 22 years later, and you still have to be some kind of "wizard" > to keep Windows working. My thought, exactly. How pathetic. "RFI-EMI-GUY" <Rhyolite@NETTALLY.COM> wrote in message news:k%%%j.151$UF5.143@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > Billy Smith wrote: >>That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them >>playing music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every >>application you can use. No problems here just as long as you really know >>what you are doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem but the >>user not knowing how to properly operate the computer. > > Back when I built my first computer, DOS, Windows 3.1. 386-16 16 MB Ram. > It would do a lot of neat things "Just as long as you really knew what you > were doing". Like writing batch files to load and unload conflicting TSR's > from memory etc. Here we are 22 years later, and you still have to be some > kind of "wizard" to keep Windows working. > -- > Joe Leikhim K4SAT > "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© > > "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? > For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." > > "Follow The Money" ;-P
Guest cheley_bonstell88@live.com Posted May 31, 2008 Posted May 31, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive On May 30, 6:56 pm, Rene Brehmer <r...@metalbunny.net> wrote: > On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote: > > David wrote: > > >> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority > >> of PC users > > > Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for > > most routine tasks. > > Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of > Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a > clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta. > > I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home. > -- > Rene Brehmer > IT Technician > > North Hill Innhttp://www.northhillinn.com Agree.. Vista Loses almost every performance benchmark, re Vista: - Story I heard was thet the guy at Microsoft in charge of Vista Said it was ready to ship. AND THEN he immediately went to Yahoo, with a Thirty Million Dollar Signing Bonus.. -Windows XP does the job here and Ubuntu GG is on the other partition IF Microsoft had a new OS that was worthy of purchase 'd get one Until then Its XP & Linux
Guest RHF Posted May 31, 2008 Posted May 31, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive On May 30, 4:23 pm, RFI-EMI-GUY <Rhyol...@NETTALLY.COM> wrote: > Billy Smith wrote: > >That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them > > playing music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every > > application you can use. No problems here just as long as you really > > know what you are doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem > > but the user not knowing how to properly operate the computer. > - Back when I built my first computer, DOS, Windows 3.1. 386-16 16 MB Ram. - It would do a lot of neat things "Just as long as you really knew what - you were doing". Like writing batch files to load and unload conflicting - TSR's from memory etc. Here we are 22 years later, and you still have to - be some kind of "wizard" to keep Windows working. - -- - Joe Leikhim K4SAT - "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© - - "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? - For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." - - "Follow The Money" ;-P RFI-EMI-GUY - Dang - Batch Files (.bat) now that is something i ain't heard of in a mighty long while. config.sys me 'til i'm dos'ed ~ RHF .
Guest clifto Posted May 31, 2008 Posted May 31, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Billy Smith wrote: > "Rene Brehmer" <rene@metalbunny.net> wrote in message > news:1v0tie1m9l70g$.qlzqjiap3bc0$.dlg@40tude.net... >> On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote: >> >>> David wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority >>>> of PC users >>>> >>> Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for >>> most routine tasks. >> >> Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of >> Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a >> clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta. >> >> I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home. >> -- >> Rene Brehmer >> IT Technician >> >> North Hill Inn >> http://www.northhillinn.com > > That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them playing > music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every application > you can use. No problems here just as long as you really know what you are > doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem but the user not > knowing how to properly operate the computer. Or the owner not being able to afford a 900 terahertz 16-core processor with 100 terabytes of memory. -- "On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes - and I see many of them in the audience here today - our sense of patriotism is particularly strong." -- Barack Obama's seance
Guest Billy Smith Posted May 31, 2008 Posted May 31, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive "clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message news:2oo6h5-899.ln1@remote.clifto.com... > Billy Smith wrote: >> "Rene Brehmer" <rene@metalbunny.net> wrote in message >> news:1v0tie1m9l70g$.qlzqjiap3bc0$.dlg@40tude.net... >>> On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote: >>> >>>> David wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority >>>>> of PC users >>>>> >>>> Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for >>>> most routine tasks. >>> >>> Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of >>> Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling >>> a >>> clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta. >>> >>> I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home. >>> -- >>> Rene Brehmer >>> IT Technician >>> >>> North Hill Inn >>> http://www.northhillinn.com >> >> That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them >> playing >> music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every >> application >> you can use. No problems here just as long as you really know what you >> are >> doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem but the user not >> knowing how to properly operate the computer. > > Or the owner not being able to afford a 900 terahertz 16-core processor > with 100 terabytes of memory. > What makes this interesting to me is that I paid 200 dollars for the desktop computer brand new out of the box at Circuit City. Computer was originally 409 dollars and discounted to 200. Worked great right out of the box. I didn't have a bit of problem with that computer and its about a year old. Next pieces I bought were two laptops one from last August and the other this February. HP for both of them and spent 1500 for both of them in total. Both with 1 GB of ram apiece. 160 GB drive on one and 250 GB on the other. AMD processor on both 2.0 Ghz plus speed. So basically 700 bucks for one laptop and 800 for another. I've been seeing desktops for maybe 500-700 which is pretty reasonable.
Guest Clear Windows Posted May 31, 2008 Posted May 31, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive vista is crap <cheley_bonstell88@live.com> wrote in message news:67bbdfae-408b-4a23-820b-6fe4cc8c23de@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On May 30, 6:56 pm, Rene Brehmer <r...@metalbunny.net> wrote: >> On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote: >> > David wrote: >> >> >> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority >> >> of PC users >> >> > Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for >> > most routine tasks. >> >> Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of >> Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a >> clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta. >> >> I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home. >> -- >> Rene Brehmer >> IT Technician >> >> North Hill Innhttp://www.northhillinn.com > > Agree.. > > Vista Loses almost every performance benchmark, > > re Vista: > > - Story I heard was > > thet the guy at Microsoft in charge of Vista > > Said it was ready to ship. > > AND THEN he immediately went to Yahoo, with a > > Thirty Million Dollar Signing Bonus.. > > -Windows XP does the job here > > and Ubuntu GG is on the other partition > > IF Microsoft had a new OS that was worthy of purchase > 'd get one > > Until then Its XP & Linux >
Guest Not Me Posted May 31, 2008 Posted May 31, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive "Billy Smith" <chungkingchungking@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:J-2dnW7PQJ6XFN3VnZ2dnUVZ_rXinZ2d@earthlink.com... > > "Rene Brehmer" <rene@metalbunny.net> wrote in message > news:1v0tie1m9l70g$.qlzqjiap3bc0$.dlg@40tude.net... >> On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote: >> >>> David wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority >>>> of PC users >>>> >>> Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for >>> most routine tasks. >> >> Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of >> Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a >> clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta. >> >> I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home. >> -- >> Rene Brehmer >> IT Technician >> >> North Hill Inn >> http://www.northhillinn.com > > That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them > playing music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every > application you can use. No problems here just as long as you really know > what you are doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem but the > user not knowing how to properly operate the computer. I can operate it just fine. I fix computers every day with every imaginable OS, so I have to know them all inside out. I just plain do not like Vista. From my perspective, it is the first time in my 40 years of compuer experience that a major software vendor released a new OS that I thought was a step backwards instead of forwards. They call it new and improved, I call it XP run through a blender and poured in the pigpen to 'cure'. Everyone has their opinion, that is mine.
Guest Leythos Posted May 31, 2008 Posted May 31, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive In article <eSATRuvwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, cargod01@bresnan.net says... > I just plain do not like Vista. From my perspective, it is the first time in > my 40 years of compuer experience that a major software vendor released a > new OS that I thought was a step backwards instead of forwards. > Many people felt this way about XP also, time changed them. What you might want to consider is the reason for Vista, at least my take on the reason for it. In the Windows ME days, ME required more hardware, more everything, and it was a problem OS, worse than Vista by far, but, it had one impact - it caused people to BUY MORE HARDWARE, faster hardware, better video cards, etc... Vista is the same tool in my view, it really needs about 2 times the CPU as XP does, at least 4 times the memory, and it really needs a 512MB Video card to be very happy. So, people will buy vista upgrades, then my new computers or faster parts, and they will have it running smoothly - then the next OS will come out that will offer the real benefits and features, like XP did. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
Guest barnegatdx Posted May 31, 2008 Posted May 31, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive On May 30, 7:08 pm, "Billy Smith" <chungkingchungk...@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Rene Brehmer" <r...@metalbunny.net> wrote in message > > news:1v0tie1m9l70g$.qlzqjiap3bc0$.dlg@40tude.net... > > > > > On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote: > > >> David wrote: > > >>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority > >>> of PC users > > >> Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for > >> most routine tasks. > > > Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of > > Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a > > clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta. > > > I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home. > > -- > > Rene Brehmer > > IT Technician > > > North Hill Inn > >http://www.northhillinn.com > > That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them playing > music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every application > you can use. No problems here just as long as you really know what you are > doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem but the user not > knowing how to properly operate the computer. Probably get the same performance with Windows XP but with Hundreds of dollars less hardware http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=vista+sucks&btnG=Google+Search - Or with something FREEEE ! Like Ubuntu they say in the future, you'll just need a computer and a browser, meanwhile, theres a petition you can sign, http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/ It'd be nice to have a reliable, standardized OS available for sale June 30, 2008
Guest RHF Posted May 31, 2008 Posted May 31, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive On May 31, 3:52 am, barnegatdx <barnega...@aol.com> wrote: > On May 30, 7:08 pm, "Billy Smith" <chungkingchungk...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > "Rene Brehmer" <r...@metalbunny.net> wrote in message > > >news:1v0tie1m9l70g$.qlzqjiap3bc0$.dlg@40tude.net... > > > > On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:56 -0700, dave wrote: > > > >> David wrote: > > > >>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority > > >>> of PC users > > > >> Huh!? XP is klunky and wastes resources. Puppy Linux works better for > > >> most routine tasks. > > > > Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap to come out of > > > Richmond yet. I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a > > > clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta. > > > > I work with Windows all day. That's why we have a Mac at home. > > > -- > > > Rene Brehmer > > > IT Technician > > > > North Hill Inn > > >http://www.northhillinn.com > > > That's funny. I have three computers running on Vista utilizing them playing > > music, movies, word processing, document saving, and about every application > > you can use. No problems here just as long as you really know what you are > > doing. Maybe its not the software causing the problem but the user not > > knowing how to properly operate the computer. > > Probably get the same performance with Windows XP but with Hundreds > of dollars less hardware > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=vista+sucks&btnG=Google+Search > > - Or with something FREEEE ! Like Ubuntu > > they say in the future, you'll just need a computer and a browser, > > meanwhile, theres a petition you can sign, > > http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/ > > It'd be nice to have a reliable, standardized OS available for sale > June 30, 2008- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Wal*Mart is still selling some Dell Computers with XP installed as the OS.
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