Guest Unknown Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Now YOU have a narrow mind. Do you constantly add new programs to an appliance? Do you infect them with the likes of Norton, Symantec or registry cleaners? Wake up and compare apples to apples. "m II" <c@in.the.hat> wrote in message news:9oT0k.496$7B3.76@edtnps91... > Unknown wrote: > > >>>> Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? > >>> I shouldn't have to. > >> That's more stupid than the first. > > > (top posting fixed to ensure clarity) > > > Why should he HAVE to worry about what causes crashes? Any properly > running appliances, such a refrigerators, alarm clocks, etc., cause no > worry OR a need for detective work. > > You plug them in and they do their job. > > > > > > mike > > -- > Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, this filter > blocks all postings from Gmail, Google Mail and Google Groups. > > http://improve-usenet.org/
Guest Unknown Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Holy Cow-----Do you ever read your posts and criticize them? You should talk. "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message news:t22844hvd349ipg79qdi3jj3uu847co6h2@4ax.com... > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:49:05 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> > wrote: > >>That's more stupid than the first. > > This newsgroup is overflowing with stupid comments. Many of them seem > to be coming from guys like you that can't stand to see anyone being > critical of Vista. Sorry to inform you it sounds like you have been > inflicted with the same fatal disease the resident troll Frank has > where the person just rants and screams and keeps making excuses for > Microsoft releasing crap. > >>"dave" <nothere@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>news:MoS0k.6299$dW1.2829@fe113.usenetserver.com... >>> Unknown wrote: >>>> Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? >>> >>> I shouldn't have to. >> >
Guest Unknown Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Since when is trying to correct you (an impossibility) make me sound like a crackpot? I see, you're ALWAYS correct, therefore, everyone else who disagrees with you is a crackpot. Who are you trying to impress? "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message news:9b2844p1u4gj0a5v004rm0f05kidf1n8lb@4ax.com... > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:49:52 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> > wrote: > >>Easy-------too dumb to keep a job. > > My current job is to make idiots like you sound like crackpots. You > make it way too easy since you do all the work. > >>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message >>news:k8e644t0r37b4d36k7aqnkopu5upcfq3ip@4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:03:29 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>If you have to wonder about that you have no business sense whatsoever. >>> >>> Really? Then maybe you can explain how I managed to retire nearly 20 >>> years ago just a little past 40. >>> >>> >> >
Guest RHF Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp. D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp. D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsxp/future.mspx Windows XP will be Gone in June 2008 ? - NOT ! MS Says - Windows XP Sales will Stop on 30 June 2008. Note - Some Existing 'new' Old-Stock of Windows XP presently in Retailers Inventory may be available until 2009 or longer. MS Says - Technical Support [service Pack Downloads] for Window XP will be provided by Microsoft Corp until 2014. OK - What is the Problem ? Yeah -if- You buy a New Computer you will likely get stuck with have Micorsoft's VISTA pre-installed -but- your Old PC that is running Windows XP will have support for Five (5) more years. Hopefully within those Five (5) Years Microsoft will have something better than VISTA as their latest super-dupper OS : Plus you will have a lot of new Hardware to Want-to-Buy. -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade PC Users Dilemma. and . . . that's the way i see it ~ RHF . On May 30, 5:07 am, David <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: > > > > > > > My two cents, > > > I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the product > > provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the market > > or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the > > decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make > > Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to take > > the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg > > anyone for keeping a product or not. > > > "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... > > > >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe.... > > > > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying > > > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough > > > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to > > > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was > > > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many > > > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" > > > and the rest of us simply consider them silly. > > > > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to > > > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole > > > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The > > > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will > > > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). > > > > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the > > > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the > > > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're > > > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a > > > majority of Neowin's visitors: > > > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > > > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > > > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > > > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, > > > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and > > > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. > > I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. > > Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority > of PC users > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > Save Windows XP- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
Guest m II Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive (top posting fixed to ensure clarity) Unknown wrote: >>>>> Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? >>>> I shouldn't have to. >>> That's more stupid than the first. >> Why should he HAVE to worry about what causes crashes? Any properly >> running appliances, such a refrigerators, alarm clocks, etc., cause no >> worry OR a need for detective work. >> You plug them in and they do their job. > Now YOU have a narrow mind. Do you constantly add new programs to an > appliance? Do you infect them with the likes of Norton, Symantec or > registry cleaners? Wake up and compare apples to apples. I infect my fridge and freezer with all kinds of stuff. Some of it HOT. I subject it to harsh cleaners and repeated slamming of the doors. The alarm clock/radio gets subjected to the weirdest combinations of button presses, especially in the morning. The processor in the clock keeps ticking. The same with the processors in the dryer and microwave. The power company subjects ALL my appliances to surges, spikes and brownouts. So far, they've all survived, with the clock setting in the microwave being the exception. That unit has no battery backup. The point dave was making is that the computer and it's software should be no different than a garden variety appliance. It should just work. The bloated operating systems out there now are so convoluted in their construction that even their makers have lost track of what's in the code. The finer points of quality and care in the finished product seem to have been lost in the mad rush to get unfinished work to market and more people are voting with their wallet and NOT buying. With all respect, I am now leaving this discussion. This can turn into a never ending debate. Please, feel free to have the last word. mike -- Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, this filter blocks all postings from Gmail, Google Mail and Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/
Guest Earle Horton Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Adam Albright is an online bully, who wanders from forum to forum trying to impress people with his vast knowledge and experience. He achieves this by ridiculing anyone who might know something that he does not: "My current job is to make idiots like you sound like crackpots." He is seeking the attention and respect that he is denied in real life, because no one, and I mean no one, respects a loser in real life. Even the chickens in the barn yard peck at the loser hens unmercifully. People can smell a loser like Mr. Albright, even through the medium of the Internet. Even if he knows as much as he claims, and I doubt this very much, it is all useless because he is a self admitted supernumerary, an outcast. He claims to have retired twenty years ago, but I think you're wrong about him being "too dumb to keep a job". It's his fulminating personality disorders that keep him from working with anyone else. The idea of making a petition to keep XP alive is silly though. They can put 8 GB of memory and a TB of hard disk in a computer that would have had 128 MB and 10 GB when XP was released. All that space is just begging for bloatware of the type that the Advanced Technology Group (if it is still called that) in Redmond cranks out. I remember them well. Guys with CS degrees and Indian surnames who worked on exotic products that never saw the light of day when I was there. Looks like their day has come now. Cheers, Earle "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message news:RcU0k.3455$xZ.1712@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com... > Since when is trying to correct you (an impossibility) make me sound like > a crackpot? I see, you're ALWAYS correct, > therefore, everyone else who disagrees with you is a crackpot. Who are you > trying to impress? > "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message > news:9b2844p1u4gj0a5v004rm0f05kidf1n8lb@4ax.com... >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:49:52 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> >> wrote: >> >>>Easy-------too dumb to keep a job. >> >> My current job is to make idiots like you sound like crackpots. You >> make it way too easy since you do all the work. >> >>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message >>>news:k8e644t0r37b4d36k7aqnkopu5upcfq3ip@4ax.com... >>>> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:03:29 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>If you have to wonder about that you have no business sense whatsoever. >>>> >>>> Really? Then maybe you can explain how I managed to retire nearly 20 >>>> years ago just a little past 40. >>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
Guest Unknown Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive In your mind a big steel box is the same as electronics with components microns apart trying to be all things to all people with hundreds of misfits attempting to create the meanest virus. You made your position perfectly clear and I'll also end it here.. m II" <c@in.the.hat> wrote in message news:_DU0k.517$7B3.302@edtnps91... > (top posting fixed to ensure clarity) > > Unknown wrote: > > > >>>>>> Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? > >>>>> I shouldn't have to. > >>>> That's more stupid than the first. > > >>> Why should he HAVE to worry about what causes crashes? Any properly >>> running appliances, such a refrigerators, alarm clocks, etc., cause no >>> worry OR a need for detective work. >>> You plug them in and they do their job. > >> Now YOU have a narrow mind. Do you constantly add new programs to an >> appliance? Do you infect them with the likes of Norton, Symantec or >> registry cleaners? Wake up and compare apples to apples. > > > I infect my fridge and freezer with all kinds of stuff. Some of it HOT. > I subject it to harsh cleaners and repeated slamming of the doors. The > alarm clock/radio gets subjected to the weirdest combinations of button > presses, especially in the morning. The processor in the clock keeps > ticking. The same with the processors in the dryer and microwave. > > The power company subjects ALL my appliances to surges, spikes and > brownouts. So far, they've all survived, with the clock setting in the > microwave being the exception. That unit has no battery backup. > > The point dave was making is that the computer and it's software should > be no different than a garden variety appliance. It should just work. > > The bloated operating systems out there now are so convoluted in their > construction that even their makers have lost track of what's in the code. > > The finer points of quality and care in the finished product seem to > have been lost in the mad rush to get unfinished work to market and more > people are voting with their wallet and NOT buying. > > With all respect, I am now leaving this discussion. This can turn into a > never ending debate. Please, feel free to have the last word. > > > > mike > > -- > Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, this filter > blocks all postings from Gmail, Google Mail and Google Groups. > > http://improve-usenet.org/
Guest Unknown Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Keep in mind the enormous flexibility and capability of the PC (what people want it to do). "Earle Horton" <earlio_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23rRmBiMxIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Adam Albright is an online bully, who wanders from forum to forum trying > to impress people with his vast knowledge and experience. He achieves > this by ridiculing anyone who might know something that he does not: > > "My current job is to make idiots like you sound like crackpots." > > He is seeking the attention and respect that he is denied in real life, > because no one, and I mean no one, respects a loser in real life. Even > the chickens in the barn yard peck at the loser hens unmercifully. People > can smell a loser like Mr. Albright, even through the medium of the > Internet. Even if he knows as much as he claims, and I doubt this very > much, it is all useless because he is a self admitted supernumerary, an > outcast. He claims to have retired twenty years ago, but I think you're > wrong about him being "too dumb to keep a job". It's his fulminating > personality disorders that keep him from working with anyone else. > > The idea of making a petition to keep XP alive is silly though. They can > put 8 GB of memory and a TB of hard disk in a computer that would have had > 128 MB and 10 GB when XP was released. All that space is just begging for > bloatware of the type that the Advanced Technology Group (if it is still > called that) in Redmond cranks out. I remember them well. Guys with CS > degrees and Indian surnames who worked on exotic products that never saw > the light of day when I was there. Looks like their day has come now. > > Cheers, > > Earle > > "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message > news:RcU0k.3455$xZ.1712@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com... >> Since when is trying to correct you (an impossibility) make me sound like >> a crackpot? I see, you're ALWAYS correct, >> therefore, everyone else who disagrees with you is a crackpot. Who are >> you trying to impress? >> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message >> news:9b2844p1u4gj0a5v004rm0f05kidf1n8lb@4ax.com... >>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:49:52 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>Easy-------too dumb to keep a job. >>> >>> My current job is to make idiots like you sound like crackpots. You >>> make it way too easy since you do all the work. >>> >>>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message >>>>news:k8e644t0r37b4d36k7aqnkopu5upcfq3ip@4ax.com... >>>>> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:03:29 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>If you have to wonder about that you have no business sense >>>>>>whatsoever. >>>>> >>>>> Really? Then maybe you can explain how I managed to retire nearly 20 >>>>> years ago just a little past 40. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Canuck57 Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message news:49084453m83m4m2ktebe6jmdsikr4av9pi@4ax.com... > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:46:23 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> > wrote: > >>O.K. You built it and it keeps crashing. That describes you. > > I built the system. Microsoft built the operating system. That is what > crashes and has so many security holes in it. Funny thing, I'm not > alone. Check it out: > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Windows+Vista+problems > > I guess the "WOW" Microsoft use to use to describe Vista must be they > knew Google would find millions of people having problems. > > Since you asked, consider this one: > > http://security.itproportal.com/articles/2008/06/02/stay-away-safari-browser-warns-microsoft/ > > It seems Apple's popular browser Safari is a security risk on the > Windows platform and Microsoft just made an official request for > Windows users to stay away from it and not use it. This one is a mixed bag. Users should dump Safari if Apple can't promptly fix the issues. But it is a dangerous precident with obvious bias that Microsoft recommends users not to use Safari. Smacks of WeSaySo. > Oh this is indeed interesting. If you're a true blue Microsoft fan > you're trusting Microsoft crap like Defender and UAC to PROTECT you. In the Vancouver hack fest, they broke into Vista and UAC didn't react. Obviously UAC while it might be better, still is like a login to Windows 95, show and tell. Just click cancel and it used to work for me. UAC appears like this, bypassable. > Well not so fast. This issue and THREAT is due to how Windows in both > XP and Vista handles executable files on the desktop, the most logical > place you would have a link to a browser. > > Oh you remember, the very things Microsoft claims it wants to protect > you from with Defender and UAC. Guess those things don't work too > well. Surprise! > > Honest, you Microsoft apologists make be laugh so hard my ribs hurt. Me too. LOL. But I do agree with the UAC concept, if something is modifying the OS, the user needs to be prompted. Just that the Vista UAC seems somewhat like a incomplete last minute hack. Linux has this too, just far more polish went into it that Vista. I suspect we are in fact Win7 beta testers with Vista.
Guest Allen Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive sgopus wrote: > Now you've done it, you've responded to him, it only encourages him. > > "Allen" wrote: > >> Frank wrote: >> I've seen way more than enough of your obscene but totally useless >> posts, "Frank". I won't be seeing any more. I can't imagine that you >> might ever post anything useful. Ever consider growing up? >> Allen >> I won't see his replies. I don't know why everyone else doesn't put him in their killfiles. He sounds like a 12 or 13 year old kid just showing off his vocabulary that he isn't allowed to use at home. Allen
Guest Canuck57 Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message news:ORopAYKxIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Personally I have found that users quickly get used to the newer Linux > distributions and for work these are just fine. For games of course not so > good, but then you don't want people playing counter strike at work eh? Insightful. With only one exception, I have yet to see a business or work scenario that a user cannot use a Linux PC for. Most products stick to more open and cross platform standards. The exception is if your company has purchased applications are vendor locked using non-standard technologies. Such as .NET must have. In such cases, you just married Microsoft for better or for worse so the answer is, just pay up. You have no choices until you change your purchasing habits and purchase standards based interoperable products. This is 100% the reason why Microsoft does this too. Gets companies hooked like fish without any other options. No easy way off the hook but to make an expensive migration away from the hook. Then time for M$ to milk it as you options are few. For example, a simple choice. IIS or Apache. Apache runs on almost any OS, where as IIS does not. This means you are bound to the server license. Then a MS-programer uses/wants .NET, you are even further in the MS-lock-in-hole. Soon, M$ wants a 500% serve cost increase...you have no nice options. > A side effect of my messing with it at work is that now, maybe 20 people > know there is an alternative OS they can put on the old machine they can't > use because XP/ME is broken and they lost or damaged the CD. As they haul > that out of the closet for the kids to use or as a spare machine their > friends will see it and use it. Most people find adapting to say, Ubuntu quite easy for all user tasks. Generally Linux menus are much cleaner and not as cluttered as are MS-Windows ones, which lets the user get a quick start. > This is why I say that MS need to be careful, because at some future date > the rise in the use of alternatives could become exponential, Linux' > problem has been that nobody got familiar with it in their day to day > life. As they do that things could change. Computer stores will have to > offer it, techs will have to learn it, etc. Probably already happening. Linix chewing away at the bottom, Apple hewing away at the top. Not rational person believes as a percentage Microsoft market share is currently growing. > My IT pro will not adopt Vista if he can avoid it because the company has > no real use for the "Extra" features it offers over XP. Most work related > stuff requires only internet access and text entry with some spreadsheet > work thrown in. Basically we have to have W2003 on one server per > facility, but could equally well use a Linux with open office for > everything, including access to the server (The main data entry program > used is Windows only). Prudent move. Vista generally needs new higher cost hardware, and once one user gets it they all want to get it of feel like inferior employees. Then there are issues of scale, desktop now has to support 2 desktop OSes, not one. > Why would we spend say $1500 each for all new machines in order to do just > what we do now? Over time maybe, IF we could get the networking between > Vista and "Something else" reliable, but that is another issue. Which is the binified business reason NOT to go to Vista. I suspect your average Vista desktop costs a company a lot more than $1500. $1500 for a bottom end business Vista machine, new MS-Office licenses and support $400, time to set it up, train and integrate to the existing environment, $500. No including any user trainign issues and other software sucha s AV etc, $3000 would be a closer figure for a Vista desktop refresh. > Personally, were I Mr Gates or Mr Ballmer, I think I'd rather see pirate > copies of XP used than have Linux appearing on random desktops, but I'm > not :) I bet that is happening. In fact it is known to be the major reason they have market share in China. Only 15% of their population is considered middl class, the rest, can't afford the MS pricing. But it is a growing market. > So I don't really advocate anything, only state what appears to me to be > the obvious. That there is plenty of hardware out there that can be > refurbished, and with the financial situation many people are in now I can > see that happening. Take the old PC, add a big cheap disk, and use it for backups and learning Linux. In fact, load Solaris, a BSD or others and play. > I mean what is XP going to cost, assuming you can get it legitimately in > the future, couple of hundred? Then something like MS Office? Couple of > hundred? MS is discontinuing XP so users will have to buy Vista and pump the numbers. MS makes plenty from XP, the R&D is already paid and is in maintenace mode at best. But, if people chose XP over Vista, it is a Vista sale lost. And some MS bean counter wants the return of 5-6 years of Vista development. > Ubuntu and Open Office - nothing - zilch, maybe the price of a blank CD of > you want to be picky. Open Office, have used it consistantly for over 3 years now. Can't understand why with more features someone would waste their money on MS-Office. Does not mater which OS you use, Open Office is a great cross platform office tool. > Now I happen to like XP, but hey, I am not the one "Taking it away". I > like Vista, but I also have older machines it simply cannot run on, where > XP runs just fine for most things. Debian and Ubuntu run well on just > about anything - although to be honest I did find one old one that ran XP > but not Linux and cannot explain that because it was really too old anyway > and I trashed it. MS will do anything to pump the lethargic adoption of Vista. While they state they have sold 140m copies, I wonder 1) how many are running in 30 days after. 2) what would it have been if it wasn't bundled and 3) how many of those copies were full off the shelf versions? (I suspect very few were). > So you know, it's got to be a valid decision for Microsoft to make - what > happens to XP? So was New Coke, they changed their tune on a consumer whiplash. > I think my inclination would be to keep selling it, gradually reducing the > price. If not, people will steal it or worse still (IMHO) look elsewhere. > I don;t think you can declare million of machines obsolete in the space of > a year or two. That is how the rest of the competative part of the electronics business operates. But a monopoly bundling position gives more latitude to Microsoft. But it will break in time. > I don't know any IT pro who really wants to rush out and buy a new OS the > day it is released, especially when the "Core" is radically different from > the previous version. As someone (you?) suggested the progress on the > Linux core should hold far fewer surprises being more incremental. However > to be fair I have noted more "Glitches" in the current release of Ubuntu > than in the version I have at work which is now maybe 2 years old. Debian > is harder to get set up, but rock steady by comparison. This suggests that > as more "Glitz" is added to any OS more things get unreliable. It is a far cry from Win95. People lined up before the store opened for that one. Now people are considering a 2-3 year wait. Let someone else beta test MS-Windows. > So yes, many people like Windows and will continue to do so, those who > don't really care as long as it works reliably may reconsider, and guess > what, those are often the people with hundreds of machines to maintain. Lots of people will continue to use MS-Windows. For some, change is like a root canal. For others, change is swift and easy.
Guest RFI-EMI-GUY Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Adam Albright wrote: > On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:21:06 -0400, "Billy Smith" > <chungkingchungking@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> You are talking to Adam Not So Bright. Its amusing these guys keep >> complaining about crashes but Ive had XP for about 6 years and no crashes, >> Vista about a year and no crashes. Nice. > > Did I miss some "logic" in that silly comment? No, just another patsy > that doesn't have a clue. Let me explain the facts of life to the > armatures here one more time in simple terms maybe they can > understand. > > How often one might expect to see Windows "crash" is proportional to > what you use your computer for. An analogy would be you wouldn't > expect your car to have a major mechanical breakdown if all you did > was drive it up and down your driveway once a week. However if you're > trying to tow a two ton boat and trailer up a steep hill for miles > every weekend then something breaking down is far more likely to > happen. > > It is obvious from reading many of the posts here that a lot of people > merely "play" with their computer. That's like driving that car back > and forth on your driveway. Of course just surfing the web, reading > email, maybe writing some short document or crunching some numbers in > a spreadsheet isn't stressful to your computer or Windows so expecting > it to see crashes under those circumstances would be silly and yes if > that's all I did I wouldn't expect Windows to crash for years either. > > On the other hand some of us actually WORK with our computers > stressing it to the limit like that car straining to pull that boat > and trailer up a steep hill for mile after mile. The chances of > Windows crashing when it is running under heavy load increases the > likelihood something will hang, stop working or the system just > getting sluggish. > HUH? WTF? -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." "Follow The Money" ;-P
Guest cheley_bonstell88@live.com Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp. Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp. On Jun 2, 11:42 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote: > D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.http://www..microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsxp/future.mspx > > Windows XP will be Gone in June 2008 ? - NOT ! > > MS Says - Windows XP Sales will Stop on 30 June 2008. > > Note - Some Existing 'new' Old-Stock of Windows XP presently > in Retailers Inventory may be available until 2009 or longer. > > MS Says - Technical Support [service Pack Downloads] for > Window XP will be provided by Microsoft Corp until 2014. > > OK - What is the Problem ? > > Yeah -if- You buy a New Computer you will likely get stuck > with have Micorsoft's VISTA pre-installed -but- your Old PC > that is running Windows XP will have support for Five (5) > more years. > > Hopefully within those Five (5) Years Microsoft will have > something better than VISTA as their latest super-dupper > OS : Plus you will have a lot of new Hardware to Want-to-Buy. > > -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever > changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade > PC Users Dilemma. > > and . . . that's the way i see it ~ RHF > . > > On May 30, 5:07 am, David <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: > > > > My two cents, > > > > I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the product > > > provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the market > > > or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the > > > decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make > > > Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to take > > > the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg > > > anyone for keeping a product or not. > > > > "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message > > > >news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... > > > > >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe.... > > > > > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying > > > > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough > > > > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to > > > > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was > > > > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many > > > > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" > > > > and the rest of us simply consider them silly. > > > > > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to > > > > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole > > > > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The > > > > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will > > > > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). > > > > > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the > > > > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the > > > > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're > > > > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a > > > > majority of Neowin's visitors: > > > > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > > > > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > > > > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > > > > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, > > > > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and > > > > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. > > > I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. > > > Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority > > of PC users > > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > > Save Windows XP- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - - But the problem is that whatever Microsoft comes up with to replace Vista will be the same resource Hog Vista is now; - with no substantial gain. - Imagine how nice it would be to have a REALLY fast, reliable PC that ran on Some Future Iteration of hardware - but had Reliable, Familiar Windows XP as its OS - tapping into whatever faster Internet / server farm is standard down teh road. Worth Saving Windows XP, in the opinion of over 200,000 http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/
Guest cheley_bonstell88@live.com Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive On May 30, 8:07 am, David <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: > > > > > My two cents, > > > I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the product > > provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the market > > or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the > > decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make > > Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to take > > the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg > > anyone for keeping a product or not. > > > "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... > > > >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe.... > > > > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying > > > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough > > > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to > > > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was > > > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many > > > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" > > > and the rest of us simply consider them silly. > > > > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to > > > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole > > > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The > > > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will > > > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). > > > > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the > > > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the > > > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're > > > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a > > > majority of Neowin's visitors: > > > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > > > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > > > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > > > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, > > > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and > > > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. > I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority of PC users United States: (866) 234-6020 United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 Canada: (800) 936-8479 Save Windows XP The vast majority of people I know are moving from Windows to a Mac; I think Microsoft would notice at some point that it's consumer base is eroding.. It's really a shame that a safe, reliable OS like Windows XP is being abandoned by Microsoft
Guest Billy Smith Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Nah, hes just a self righteous butthole. Stupidity is his own hallmark. "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message news:J8U0k.3454$xZ.2792@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com... > Holy Cow-----Do you ever read your posts and criticize them? You should > talk. > "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message > news:t22844hvd349ipg79qdi3jj3uu847co6h2@4ax.com... >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:49:05 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> >> wrote: >> >>>That's more stupid than the first. >> >> This newsgroup is overflowing with stupid comments. Many of them seem >> to be coming from guys like you that can't stand to see anyone being >> critical of Vista. Sorry to inform you it sounds like you have been >> inflicted with the same fatal disease the resident troll Frank has >> where the person just rants and screams and keeps making excuses for >> Microsoft releasing crap. >> >>>"dave" <nothere@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>>news:MoS0k.6299$dW1.2829@fe113.usenetserver.com... >>>> Unknown wrote: >>>>> Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? >>>> >>>> I shouldn't have to. >>> >> > >
Guest cheley_bonstell88@live.com Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive On Jun 2, 8:22 pm, cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote: > On Jun 2, 11:42 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote: > > > > > D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsxp/future.mspx > > > Windows XP will be Gone in June 2008 ? - NOT ! > > > MS Says - Windows XP Sales will Stop on 30 June 2008. > > > Note - Some Existing 'new' Old-Stock of Windows XP presently > > in Retailers Inventory may be available until 2009 or longer. > > > MS Says - Technical Support [service Pack Downloads] for > > Window XP will be provided by Microsoft Corp until 2014. > > > OK - What is the Problem ? > > > Yeah -if- You buy a New Computer you will likely get stuck > > with have Micorsoft's VISTA pre-installed -but- your Old PC > > that is running Windows XP will have support for Five (5) > > more years. > > > Hopefully within those Five (5) Years Microsoft will have > > something better than VISTA as their latest super-dupper > > OS : Plus you will have a lot of new Hardware to Want-to-Buy. > > > -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever > > changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade > > PC Users Dilemma. > > > and . . . that's the way i see it ~ RHF > > . > > > On May 30, 5:07 am, David <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: > > > > > My two cents, > > > > > I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the product > > > > provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the market > > > > or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the > > > > decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make > > > > Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to take > > > > the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg > > > > anyone for keeping a product or not. > > > > > "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... > http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe... > > > > > > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying > > > > > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough > > > > > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to > > > > > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was > > > > > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many > > > > > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" > > > > > and the rest of us simply consider them silly. > > > > > > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to > > > > > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole > > > > > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The > > > > > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will > > > > > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). > > > > > > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the > > > > > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the > > > > > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're > > > > > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a > > > > > majority of Neowin's visitors: > > > > > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > > > > > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > > > > > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > > > > > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, > > > > > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and > > > > > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. > > > > I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. > > > > Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority > > > of PC users > > > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > > > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > > > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > > > Save Windows XP- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > - But the problem is that whatever Microsoft comes up with to replace > Vista will be the same resource Hog Vista is now; > - with no substantial gain. > > - Imagine how nice it would be to have a REALLY fast, reliable PC that > ran on Some Future Iteration of hardware > > - but had Reliable, Familiar Windows XP as its OS > > - tapping into whatever faster Internet / server farm is standard > down teh road. > > Worth Saving Windows XP, in the opinion of over 200,000 > > http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/
Guest Billy Smith Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive I use all of my computers in about a weeks time frame. One to keep them updated and the other for business purposes. "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message news:ul3do0JxIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Have you tried turning either machine on? > > > > Billy Smith wrote: >> You are talking to Adam Not So Bright. Its amusing these guys keep >> complaining about crashes but Ive had XP for about 6 years and no >> crashes, Vista about a year and no crashes. Nice. >> >> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >> news:pEF0k.2767$uE5.1290@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com... >>> Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? >>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message >>> news:34r544tefr33t5vlj5lrdmk0u5avjihl47@4ax.com... >>>> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 11:38:01 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Your argument is totally ridiculous. The primary reason for >>>>> Microsoft's >>>>> popularity is simply because it is so flexible. >>>>> What do you want your computer to do? Microsoft's OS does it. >>>> >>>> I had no idea people wanted their systems to crash so often. >>>> >>> >>> >>
Guest cheley_bonstell88@live.com Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive On Jun 2, 10:25 pm, Adam Albright <A...@ABC.net> wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:14:20 -0400, "Billy Smith" > > <chungkingchungk...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >I use all of my computers in about a weeks time frame. One to keep them > >updated and the other for business purposes. > > So many here have no idea what they're doing or why they do it. Based > on what you just said it suggests your turn on your computer merely to > see then install any new updates. > > Oh wow, I'm impressed. That's like opening the refrigerator door > slowly to see if you can confirm the light really goes out. http://www.neowin.net/index.php On June 30, Microsoft is scheduled to pull the OEM distribution plug on Windows XP. In 30 days. That's all before the older operating system largely disappears from new PCs. The "largely" qualifier is because downgrade rights will still be available to some customers, and system builders can ship PCs with XP through January 2009. The next 30 days are crucial for anyone still wanting to easily obtain Windows XP on new PCs. But why wait? Why not try Vista, and only Vista, for the next 30 days? Filmmaker Morgan Spurlock pioneered the 30-days concept in the movie "Supersize Me," where he only ate McDonalds food for, you guessed it, 30 days. The concept continues in the FX series "30 Days." I don't believe that Morgan has done a 30-day stretch with Windows Vista, but maybe he should.
Guest Billy Smith Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp. Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp. "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message news:uo9944l8kr3bot2laurjfcfgr7guqivusp@4ax.com... > On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:48:53 -0700, Frank <fb@heh.lol> wrote: > >>cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote: >>> On Jun 2, 11:42 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote: >>> >>>>D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft >>>>Corp.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsxp/future.mspx >>>> >>>>Windows XP will be Gone in June 2008 ? - NOT ! >>>> >>>>MS Says - Windows XP Sales will Stop on 30 June 2008. >>>> >>>>Note - Some Existing 'new' Old-Stock of Windows XP presently >>>>in Retailers Inventory may be available until 2009 or longer. >>>> >>>>MS Says - Technical Support [service Pack Downloads] for >>>>Window XP will be provided by Microsoft Corp until 2014. >>>> >>>>OK - What is the Problem ? >>>> >>>>Yeah -if- You buy a New Computer you will likely get stuck >>>>with have Micorsoft's VISTA pre-installed -but- your Old PC >>>>that is running Windows XP will have support for Five (5) >>>>more years. >>>> >>>>Hopefully within those Five (5) Years Microsoft will have >>>>something better than VISTA as their latest super-dupper >>>>OS : Plus you will have a lot of new Hardware to Want-to-Buy. >>>> >>>>-ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever >>>>changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade >>>>PC Users Dilemma. >>>> >>>>and . . . that's the way i see it ~ RHF >>>> . >>>> >>>>On May 30, 5:07 am, David <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>My two cents, >>>> >>>>>>I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the >>>>>>product >>>>>>provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the >>>>>>market >>>>>>or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making >>>>>>the >>>>>>decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make >>>>>>Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to >>>>>>take >>>>>>the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to >>>>>>beg >>>>>>anyone for keeping a product or not. >>>> >>>>>>"Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>>>>news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... >>>> >>>>>>>http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe... >>>> >>>>>>>If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record >>>>>>>saying >>>>>>>that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if >>>>>>>enough >>>>>>>people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to >>>>>>>Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem >>>>>>>was >>>>>>>there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many >>>>>>>online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official >>>>>>>complaints" >>>>>>>and the rest of us simply consider them silly. >>>> >>>>>>>Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then >>>>>>>on to >>>>>>>Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the >>>>>>>sole >>>>>>>purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. >>>>>>>The >>>>>>>calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft >>>>>>>will >>>>>>>consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). >>>> >>>>>>>If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply >>>>>>>call the >>>>>>>Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the >>>>>>>operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because >>>>>>>we're >>>>>>>so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a >>>>>>>majority of Neowin's visitors: >>>> >>>>>>>United States: (866) 234-6020 >>>>>>>United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 >>>>>>>Canada: (800) 936-8479 >>>> >>>>>>>If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support >>>>>>>Site, >>>>>>>choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product >>>>>>>and >>>>>>>then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. >>>> >>>>>I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. >>>> >>>>>Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority >>>>>of PC users >>>> >>>>>United States: (866) 234-6020 >>>>> United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 >>>>> Canada: (800) 936-8479 >>>> >>>>>Save Windows XP- Hide quoted text - >>>> >>>>>- Show quoted text - >>> >>> >>> - But the problem is that whatever Microsoft comes up with to replace >>> Vista will be the same resource Hog Vista is now; >>> - with no substantial gain. >>> >>And you know this because...? >> >>> - Imagine how nice it would be to have a REALLY fast, reliable PC that >>> ran on Some Future Iteration of hardware >> >>I've got multiple installs of that OS right now...it's called Vista! >> >>> >>> - but had Reliable, Familiar Windows XP as its OS >> >>Why? Once you become familiar with Vista, then XP seems old, slow and >>clunky...just W2K did after we became familiar with XP. >>> >>> - tapping into whatever faster Internet / server farm is standard >>> down teh road. >> >>???????????????????????? >>> >>> Worth Saving Windows XP, in the opinion of over 200,000 >> >>Yeah right. You don't think for one second that 200,000 individuals >>responded do you? >>If so, lets talk about some very fine bridges I happens to know of that >>are for sale...LOL! >>Also blogs are now becoming click-and-I-get-cash cows. Any resemblance >>to a real e-rag news outlet is delusional at best. >>Frank > > Frank knows all about delusional. It's his life. > Sure you do, Madeline
Guest Billy Smith Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive "Frank" <fb@tpi.olm> wrote in message news:4844ad27$0$3361$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Billy Smith wrote: > >> Nah, hes just a self righteous butthole. Stupidity is his own hallmark. >> >> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >> news:J8U0k.3454$xZ.2792@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com... >> >>> Holy Cow-----Do you ever read your posts and criticize them? You should >>> talk. >>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message >>> news:t22844hvd349ipg79qdi3jj3uu847co6h2@4ax.com... >>> >>>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:49:05 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's more stupid than the first. >>>> >>>> >>>> This newsgroup is overflowing with stupid comments. Many of them seem >>>> to be coming from guys like you that can't stand to see anyone being >>>> critical of Vista. Sorry to inform you it sounds like you have been >>>> inflicted with the same fatal disease the resident troll Frank has >>>> where the person just rants and screams and keeps making excuses for >>>> Microsoft releasing crap. >>>> >>>>> "dave" <nothere@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:MoS0k.6299$dW1.2829@fe113.usenetserver.com... >>>>> >>>>>> Unknown wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I shouldn't have to. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > Yeah, adam albright is the real nut case of this ng. > Frank Watch it now, you might upset him and he will throw a temper tantrum. He's so tightly wound now that he can't use his computer correctly. He might heaven forbid go postal on it.
Guest Billy Smith Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message news:nla944ps3b4cbd2nrhnbcuebtjtt65e49h@4ax.com... > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:14:20 -0400, "Billy Smith" > <chungkingchungking@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>I use all of my computers in about a weeks time frame. One to keep them >>updated and the other for business purposes. > > So many here have no idea what they're doing or why they do it. Based > on what you just said it suggests your turn on your computer merely to > see then install any new updates. > > Oh wow, I'm impressed. That's like opening the refrigerator door > slowly to see if you can confirm the light really goes out. > Based on what your reading comprehension is of this thread, I would suspect that you didn't bother to read any of my other comments. Considering that I have 1 XP laptop, 3 XP desktops, 2 Vista Laptops, and 1 Vista Desktop says to me that I spend quite a bit of time in the computer realm. In fact, probably several hours of the day outside of work. Perhaps you're less than capable using Vista or learning how not to crash a computer system would be educational for you. I don't sit around and install new updates every time. One because I use all my computers more than that. I have computers for different purposes. One primarily for amateur radio software and music not to mention media mixing. Another is for website development and business. 2 are for personal pleasure one desktop and the other laptop. The other couple get a lot of web usage. One pretty much has thousands of songs on it. You might learn something from some of the posters here. No small task to keep all those computers running in top shape. Something else that eludes you.
Guest Telamon Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp. Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp. In article <4844ce86$0$31727$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Frank <fb@tpi.olm> wrote: < SNIP > > Most people fine it rather strange that < SNIP > You keep on posting off topic crap. -- Telamon Ventura, California
Guest measekite Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive Frank wrote: > Billy Smith wrote: > >> Nah, hes just a self righteous butthole. Stupidity is his own hallmark. >> >> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >> news:J8U0k.3454$xZ.2792@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com... >> >>> Holy Cow-----Do you ever read your posts and criticize them? You >>> should talk. >>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message >>> news:t22844hvd349ipg79qdi3jj3uu847co6h2@4ax.com... >>> >>>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:49:05 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's more stupid than the first. >>>> >>>> >>>> This newsgroup is overflowing with stupid comments. Many of them seem >>>> to be coming from guys like you that can't stand to see anyone being >>>> critical of Vista. Sorry to inform you it sounds like you have been >>>> inflicted with the same fatal disease the resident troll Frank has >>>> where the person just rants and screams and keeps making excuses for >>>> Microsoft releasing crap. So you discovered that LOL! aka the resident troll is a nut case. How long did it take you to find that out? >>>> >>>>> "dave" <nothere@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:MoS0k.6299$dW1.2829@fe113.usenetserver.com... >>>>> >>>>>> Unknown wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I shouldn't have to. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > Yeah, adam albright is the real nut case of this ng. > Frank They are not takling about Adam so I think you should look in the mirror. Now I know you are scared! Bah.....
Guest Frank Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive measekite wrote: > > > Frank wrote: > >> Billy Smith wrote: >> >>> Nah, hes just a self righteous butthole. Stupidity is his own hallmark. >>> >>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>> news:J8U0k.3454$xZ.2792@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com... >>> >>>> Holy Cow-----Do you ever read your posts and criticize them? You >>>> should talk. >>>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message >>>> news:t22844hvd349ipg79qdi3jj3uu847co6h2@4ax.com... >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:49:05 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's more stupid than the first. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This newsgroup is overflowing with stupid comments. Many of them seem >>>>> to be coming from guys like you that can't stand to see anyone being >>>>> critical of Vista. Sorry to inform you it sounds like you have been >>>>> inflicted with the same fatal disease the resident troll Frank has >>>>> where the person just rants and screams and keeps making excuses for >>>>> Microsoft releasing crap. > > So you discovered that LOL! aka the resident troll is a nut case. How > long did it take you to find that out? > >>>>> >>>>>> "dave" <nothere@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:MoS0k.6299$dW1.2829@fe113.usenetserver.com... >>>>>> >>>>>>> Unknown wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very stupid comment. Ever stop to think what causes the crashes? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I shouldn't have to. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> Yeah, adam albright is the real nut case of this ng. >> Frank > > They are not takling about Adam so I think you should look in the > mirror. Now I know you are scared! Bah..... Can't you read, you dumb fukkin austrian lying fascist atheist bigoted pig
Guest RHF Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Windows XP Service Pack 3 is Ready for Download -according-to-Microsoft Corp. Windows XP Service Pack 3 is Ready for Download -according-to-Microsoft Corp. Windows XP Service Pack 3 is Ready for Download Dated : 6 May 2008 OverView of Windows XP Service Pack 3 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&DisplayLang=en . On Jun 2, 8:42 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote: > D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.http://www..microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsxp/future.mspx > > Windows XP will be Gone in June 2008 ? - NOT ! > > MS Says - Windows XP Sales will Stop on 30 June 2008. > > Note - Some Existing 'new' Old-Stock of Windows XP presently > in Retailers Inventory may be available until 2009 or longer. > > MS Says - Technical Support [service Pack Downloads] for > Window XP will be provided by Microsoft Corp until 2014. > > OK - What is the Problem ? > > Yeah -if- You buy a New Computer you will likely get stuck > with have Micorsoft's VISTA pre-installed -but- your Old PC > that is running Windows XP will have support for Five (5) > more years. > > Hopefully within those Five (5) Years Microsoft will have > something better than VISTA as their latest super-dupper > OS : Plus you will have a lot of new Hardware to Want-to-Buy. > > -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever > changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade > PC Users Dilemma. > > and . . . that's the way i see it ~ RHF > . > > On May 30, 5:07 am, David <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote: > > > > My two cents, > > > > I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's the product > > > provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by the market > > > or not. And it's their product so they have every right for making the > > > decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and make > > > Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who have to take > > > the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need to beg > > > anyone for keeping a product or not. > > > > "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message > > > >news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org... > > > > >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe.... > > > > > If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on record saying > > > > that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP if enough > > > > people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to > > > > Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The problem was > > > > there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the many > > > > online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official complaints" > > > > and the rest of us simply consider them silly. > > > > > Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and then on to > > > > Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in for the sole > > > > purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows XP. The > > > > calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed, Microsoft will > > > > consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though). > > > > > If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can simply call the > > > > Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let the > > > > operator know that you wish to file an official complaint. Because we're > > > > so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers for a > > > > majority of Neowin's visitors: > > > > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > > > > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > > > > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > > > > If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft Support Site, > > > > choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your product and > > > > then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number. > > > I disagree with their methodology but will make the call. > > > Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast majority > > of PC users > > > United States: (866) 234-6020 > > United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100 > > Canada: (800) 936-8479 > > > Save Windows XP- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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