Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

June 3, 2008

Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3 is Ready for Download -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

Re: Windows XP Service Pack 3 is Ready for Download -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

"RHF" <rhf-newsgroups@pacbell.net> wrote in message

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Windows XP Service Pack 3 is Ready for Download

Dated : 6 May 2008

Why are you telling us this on the THIRD OF JUNE? Dork.

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:47:08 -0400, "Billy Smith"

<chungkingchungking@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Yeah, adam albright is the real nut case of this ng.

>> Frank

>

>Watch it now, you might upset him and he will throw a temper tantrum. He's

>so tightly wound now that he can't use his computer correctly. He might

>heaven forbid go postal on it.

Oh wow, another jackass spreading Frank's stupid lies. Just wondering

which one of you is dumb and the other dumber?

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Adam Albright wrote:

> Even dumber is the director of CNBC's popular "Fast Money" show that

> features motor mouth anchor Dyland Ratigan and four "experts" giving

> stock tips each trying to out talk each other. While I find the banter

> often interesting, the director constantly makes fast cuts to show one

> of the experts not talking while you still hear the one that is. This

> probably was a accident originally, but now it seems to be a "feature"

> of the show with whoever the director switches to as soon as they're

> aware the camera is on them they ham it up, like smirk or roll their

> eyes or do something else silly while the other guy is still heard

> talking. I don't get it.

>

CNBC is a window into Hell. Those people sold their souls for money.

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Unknown wrote:

> You make it perfectly obvious you know nothing about programming, the

> business of it, or the testing of the product.

> What for example would be your test standards?

You prove my point:

Windows makes people uptight and paranoid.

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Unknown wrote:

> With approximately 180 million computers running Windows XP and you have a

> problem, does that tell you anything?

At any given time, at least 180,000,000 people are in a living Hell?

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Unknown wrote:

> Now YOU have a narrow mind. Do you constantly add new programs to an

> appliance?

> Do you infect them with the likes of Norton, Symantec or registry cleaners?

> Wake up and compare apples to apples.

>

Do some homework. Lots of appliances have imbedded processing and most

of it runs Linux. Playstation 3? Echostar DVRs? Most smart phones?

June 3, 2008

Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

RHF wrote:

>

> -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever

> changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade

> PC Users Dilemma.

>

This is stupid. There is no reason to overhaul your PC every 30 months.

Think of the toxic waste. My computer uses 12 Watts.

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Unknown wrote:

> In your mind a big steel box is the same as electronics with components

> microns apart trying to be

> all things to all people with hundreds of misfits attempting to create the

> meanest virus.

"Virus" is a convenient excuse for a computer that takes a dump for no

apparent reason.

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:53:09 -0400, "Billy Smith"

<chungkingchungking@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Considering that I have 1 XP laptop, 3 XP desktops, 2 Vista Laptops, and 1 Vista Desktop says

>to me that I spend quite a bit of time in the computer realm.

Really? That's like some little old lady spending her morning

squeezing tomatoes at her grocery store and then claiming she's

qualified to run Campbell Soup company. The resident idiot Frank

claims to have 9 computers and everybody knows he's a clueless moron

that likes to scream and yell.

Hint: How many computers you have has absolutely no relevance to your

knowledge of computers.

>In fact, probably several hours of the day outside of work. Perhaps you're less than

>capable using Vista or learning how not to crash a computer system would be

>educational for you.

Silly boy. You keep assuming Vista is crashing on me and I'm stumped

what to do about it as opposed to me reporting on Vista crashes and

offering solutions or just commenting on how dumb Microsoft is for

allowing X, Y or Z to happen. Apples and oranges.

>

>I don't sit around and install new updates every time. One because I use all

>my computers more than that. I have computers for different purposes. One

>primarily for amateur radio software and music not to mention media mixing.

>Another is for website development and business. 2 are for personal pleasure

>one desktop and the other laptop.

Sorry, not impressed. How many computers you play with in your mom's

basement is of little consequence and you haven't mentioned a single

thing you do with any of them that's relevant to your supposed

knowledge or experience.

>The other couple get a lot of web usage.

>One pretty much has thousands of songs on it. You might learn something from

>some of the posters here. No small task to keep all those computers running

>in top shape. Something else that eludes you.

Oh please... we're suppose to be impressed because you have a computer

with thousands of songs on it? Did you compose some of these songs?

Remix them, change the pitch, tempo, do anything other that download

them and then play them back? I doubt it.

As far as learning from some of the posters here... I do. Sorry you're

not one of them unless your lesson was self-importance, bragging and

how to whine. We already have a surplus of those kind of posters, your

services aren't required.

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

> Hint: How many computers you have has absolutely no relevance to your

> knowledge of computers.

>

Awfully true.

--

Mats Peterson

http://www.geocities.com/matsp888/

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

> Hint: How many computers you have has absolutely no relevance to your

> knowledge of computers.

>

Awfully true.

--

Mats Peterson

http://www.geocities.com/matsp888/

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

> Hint: How many computers you have has absolutely no relevance to your

> knowledge of computers.

>

Awfully true.

--

Mats Peterson

http://www.geocities.com/matsp888/

June 3, 2008

Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:31:07 -0700, Frank <fb@tpi.olm> wrote:

>Billy Smith wrote:

>

>>

>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>> news:uo9944l8kr3bot2laurjfcfgr7guqivusp@4ax.com...

>>

>>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:48:53 -0700, Frank <fb@heh.lol> wrote:

>>>

>>>> cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> On Jun 2, 11:42 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft

>>>>>> Corp.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsxp/future.mspx

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Windows XP will be Gone in June 2008 ? - NOT !

>>>>>>

>>>>>> MS Says - Windows XP Sales will Stop on 30 June 2008.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Note - Some Existing 'new' Old-Stock of Windows XP presently

>>>>>> in Retailers Inventory may be available until 2009 or longer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> MS Says - Technical Support [service Pack Downloads] for

>>>>>> Window XP will be provided by Microsoft Corp until 2014.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> OK - What is the Problem ?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Yeah -if- You buy a New Computer you will likely get stuck

>>>>>> with have Micorsoft's VISTA pre-installed -but- your Old PC

>>>>>> that is running Windows XP will have support for Five (5)

>>>>>> more years.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Hopefully within those Five (5) Years Microsoft will have

>>>>>> something better than VISTA as their latest super-dupper

>>>>>> OS : Plus you will have a lot of new Hardware to Want-to-Buy.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever

>>>>>> changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade

>>>>>> PC Users Dilemma.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> and . . . that's the way i see it ~ RHF

>>>>>> .

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On May 30, 5:07 am, David <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On May 30, 6:20 am, "xfile" <cou...@nospam.com> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> My two cents,

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I don't see the needs for customers to sign any petitions. It's

>>>>>>>> the product

>>>>>>>> provider's job to find out if their product is well accepted by

>>>>>>>> the market

>>>>>>>> or not. And it's their product so they have every right for

>>>>>>>> making the

>>>>>>>> decision. If they think Vista is so good, just terminate XP and

>>>>>>>> make

>>>>>>>> Windows 7 even more like Vista. Of course, it's also them who

>>>>>>>> have to take

>>>>>>>> the consequences of that decision. Life finds a way, so no need

>>>>>>>> to beg

>>>>>>>> anyone for keeping a product or not.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Clear Windows" <carlfered...@wizzmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> news:483f9df8@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/05/30/microsoft-taking-official-pe...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> If you can remember back a few weeks, Steve Ballmer went on

>>>>>>>>> record saying

>>>>>>>>> that Microsoft would consider extending the life of Windows XP

>>>>>>>>> if enough

>>>>>>>>> people asked for it. Afterall, many people don't want to upgrade to

>>>>>>>>> Windows Vista because they are perfectly content with XP. The

>>>>>>>>> problem was

>>>>>>>>> there was no way to ask for it. Sure, you could sign one of the

>>>>>>>>> many

>>>>>>>>> online petitions, but Microsoft considers those "non-official

>>>>>>>>> complaints"

>>>>>>>>> and the rest of us simply consider them silly.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Well, word has been passed down to the tech support teams (and

>>>>>>>>> then on to

>>>>>>>>> Neowin) that they are to begin logging any calls that come in

>>>>>>>>> for the sole

>>>>>>>>> purpose of requesting an extension to the retail life of Windows

>>>>>>>>> XP. The

>>>>>>>>> calls will be logged and, if enough complaints are filed,

>>>>>>>>> Microsoft will

>>>>>>>>> consider giving XP some more time (no pinky promises, though).

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> If you wish to file an official petition yourself, you can

>>>>>>>>> simply call the

>>>>>>>>> Windows XP Home Edition support numbers for your country and let

>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>> operator know that you wish to file an official complaint.

>>>>>>>>> Because we're

>>>>>>>>> so nice and want to save you the trouble, here are the numbers

>>>>>>>>> for a

>>>>>>>>> majority of Neowin's visitors:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> United States: (866) 234-6020

>>>>>>>>> United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

>>>>>>>>> Canada: (800) 936-8479

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> If your country isn't listed, you can visit the Microsoft

>>>>>>>>> Support Site,

>>>>>>>>> choose your country, choose Windows XP Home Edition as your

>>>>>>>>> product and

>>>>>>>>> then go to 'Contacts' for the appropriate support number.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I disagree with their methodology but will make the call.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast

>>>>>>> majority

>>>>>>> of PC users

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> United States: (866) 234-6020

>>>>>>> United Kingdom: 0870 60 10 100

>>>>>>> Canada: (800) 936-8479

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Save Windows XP- Hide quoted text -

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -

>>>>>

>>>>> - But the problem is that whatever Microsoft comes up with to replace

>>>>> Vista will be the same resource Hog Vista is now;

>>>>> - with no substantial gain.

>>>>>

>>>> And you know this because...?

>>>>

>>>>> - Imagine how nice it would be to have a REALLY fast, reliable PC that

>>>>> ran on Some Future Iteration of hardware

>>>>

>>>> I've got multiple installs of that OS right now...it's called Vista!

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> - but had Reliable, Familiar Windows XP as its OS

>>>>

>>>> Why? Once you become familiar with Vista, then XP seems old, slow and

>>>> clunky...just W2K did after we became familiar with XP.

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> - tapping into whatever faster Internet / server farm is standard

>>>>> down teh road.

>>>>

>>>> ????????????????????????

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Worth Saving Windows XP, in the opinion of over 200,000

>>>>

>>>> Yeah right. You don't think for one second that 200,000 individuals

>>>> responded do you?

>>>> If so, lets talk about some very fine bridges I happens to know of that

>>>> are for sale...LOL!

>>>> Also blogs are now becoming click-and-I-get-cash cows. Any resemblance

>>>> to a real e-rag news outlet is delusional at best.

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> Frank knows all about delusional. It's his life.

>>>

>>

>> Sure you do, Madeline

>

>Most people fine it rather strange that the real malcontents in this ng

>are the ones who can't get their installs of vista to run properly.

Well Frank you can't deny you're the malcontent and anyone wishing to

invest some time at Google will dig out one of your posts where YOU

admitted you needed to call Microsoft support to help YOU get Vista up

and running.

Sorry Bubba, the truth sometimes hurts.

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:53:44 -0700, Dave <nospam@biteme.com> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>> Even dumber is the director of CNBC's popular "Fast Money" show that

>> features motor mouth anchor Dyland Ratigan and four "experts" giving

>> stock tips each trying to out talk each other. While I find the banter

>> often interesting, the director constantly makes fast cuts to show one

>> of the experts not talking while you still hear the one that is. This

>> probably was a accident originally, but now it seems to be a "feature"

>> of the show with whoever the director switches to as soon as they're

>> aware the camera is on them they ham it up, like smirk or roll their

>> eyes or do something else silly while the other guy is still heard

>> talking. I don't get it.

>>

>CNBC is a window into Hell. Those people sold their souls for money.

I wonder if the Devil uses Vista.

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:59:39 -0700, Dave <nospam@biteme.com> wrote:

>Unknown wrote:

>> With approximately 180 million computers running Windows XP and you have a

>> problem, does that tell you anything?

>At any given time, at least 180,000,000 people are in a living Hell?

Maybe you found the cause of global warming. <giggle>

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

>On June 30, Microsoft is scheduled to pull the OEM distribution plug

>on Windows XP. In 30 days. That's all before the older operating

>system largely disappears from new PCs. The "largely" qualifier is

>because downgrade rights will still be available to some customers,

>and system builders can ship PCs with XP through January 2009.

Was thinking about buying a copy of XP, but decided not to. One license per

PC is good enough, and while Vista is unsuitable for my needs, the thought

of being double dipped just ticks me off.

Very few "home" customers have the legal ability to downgrade without at

least a purchase of XP OEM of one version or another.

June 3, 2008

Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

<cheley_bonstell88@live.com> wrote in message

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>- But the problem is that whatever Microsoft comes up with to replace

>Vista will be the same resource Hog Vista is now;

>- with no substantial gain.

We know this to be true as it has already been stated Win 7 is based on

Vista. So in fact, todays Vista users are Microsoft beta testers.

>- Imagine how nice it would be to have a REALLY fast, reliable PC that

>ran on Some Future Iteration of hardware

Ubuntu, Fedora and XP.

XP you say? I think slowly Microsoft is getting the message. They dusted

off mothball plans for XP becasue Vista was too fat and slow for Eee PC.

And Eee PC with Linux was and still is selling pretty good. So the choice

was to revivce XP for the Eee PC or not participate. XP will be around for

a long time to come.

>- but had Reliable, Familiar Windows XP as its OS

If you know XP, moving to Ubuntu or Fedora is not as bad as it sounds. In

fact, the menus are much better organized.

>- tapping into whatever faster Internet / server farm is standard

>down teh road.

There is no doubt a Linux based system will do the internet. Virtually

every common internet protocol out there existed on UNIX/Linux before

M-Windows. And even many that most that are not in the internet.

June 3, 2008

Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

"Dave" <nospam@biteme.com> wrote in message

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> RHF wrote:

>

>>

>> -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever

>> changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade

>> PC Users Dilemma.

>>

> This is stupid. There is no reason to overhaul your PC every 30 months.

> Think of the toxic waste. My computer uses 12 Watts.

Eee PC?

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

<cheley_bonstell88@live.com> wrote in message

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> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast

> majority of PC users

Agreed. XP is now seasoned with the kinks ironed out and now they want to

discontinue it.

All that does is support an already bloated and costly PC support business

to release beta-Vista and discontinue XP.

> Save Windows XP

Microsoft will make more money if they kill it. Customer needs and

preferences are down the priority list somewhere. Plus, the egg factor.

Corporate executives often would rather lose customers than admit they

fouled up something fearce.

> The vast majority of people I know are moving from Windows to a Mac;

They just made Apples half the floor space on my last visit to the local

computer store. And 2/3rds the people were in that space. No doubt, Apple

is getting the high end.

But looking at the low end, Eee PC, they can't keep the Linux versions in

stock.

>I think Microsoft would notice at some point that it's consumer base

>is eroding..

They get the numbers faster than anyone else. I am sure they are aware.

> It's really a shame that a safe, reliable OS like Windows XP is being

> abandoned by Microsoft

Self destructive actually.

June 3, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Is THAT what you are?

"Dave" <nospam@biteme.com> wrote in message

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> Unknown wrote:

>> You make it perfectly obvious you know nothing about programming, the

>> business of it, or the testing of the product.

>> What for example would be your test standards?

>

> You prove my point:

>

> Windows makes people uptight and paranoid.

June 4, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:47:08 -0400, "Billy Smith"

> <chungkingchungking@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>>> Yeah, adam albright is the real nut case of this ng.

>>> Frank

>> Watch it now, you might upset him and he will throw a temper tantrum. He's

>> so tightly wound now that he can't use his computer correctly. He might

>> heaven forbid go postal on it.

>

> Oh wow, another jackass spreading Frank's stupid lies. Just wondering

> which one of you is dumb and the other dumber?

>

I don't know Albright. You do seem to be carrying a loose in the mind

six pack of empty cans.

June 4, 2008

Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

Re: D'Oh ! - The Future of Windows XP -according-to- Microsoft Corp.

Canuck57 wrote:

> "Dave" <nospam@biteme.com> wrote in message

> news:zZOdnXC-NebF3NjVnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@earthlink.com...

>> RHF wrote:

>>

>>> -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever

>>> changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade

>>> PC Users Dilemma.

>>>

>> This is stupid. There is no reason to overhaul your PC every 30 months.

>> Think of the toxic waste. My computer uses 12 Watts.

>

> Eee PC?

>

Everex WalMart special with a Via C7D motherboard and a switching power

supply. It's a desktop. I also have an Eee 4G Surf subnotebook. Less

is more.

June 4, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Unknown wrote:

> Is THAT what you are?

It depends on how much speed I take.

June 4, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

On Jun 2, 10:33 pm, cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:

> On Jun 2, 10:25 pm, Adam Albright <A...@ABC.net> wrote:

>

> > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:14:20 -0400, "Billy Smith"

>

> > <chungkingchungk...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > >I use all of my computers in about a weeks time frame. One to keep them

> > >updated and the other for business purposes.

>

> > So many here have no idea what they're doing or why they do it. Based

> > on what you just said it suggests your turn on your computer merely to

> > see then install any new updates.

>

> > Oh wow, I'm impressed. That's like opening the refrigerator door

> > slowly to see if you can confirm the light really goes out.

>

> http://www.neowin.net/index.php

>

> On June 30, Microsoft is scheduled to pull the OEM distribution plug

> on Windows XP. In 30 days. That's all before the older operating

> system largely disappears from new PCs. The "largely" qualifier is

> because downgrade rights will still be available to some customers,

> and system builders can ship PCs with XP through January 2009.

>

> The next 30 days are crucial for anyone still wanting to easily obtain

> Windows XP on new PCs. But why wait? Why not try Vista, and only

> Vista, for the next 30 days? Filmmaker Morgan Spurlock pioneered the

> 30-days concept in the movie "Supersize Me," where he only ate

> McDonalds food for, you guessed it, 30 days. The concept continues in

> the FX series "30 Days." I don't believe that Morgan has done a 30-day

> stretch with Windows Vista, but maybe he should.

Users Not Upgrading XP to Vista (Even with SP1), SP3 Didn't Do it

- Microsoft wakes up to the sound of silence where upgrades should be

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June 4, 2008

Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

Just growing up!

Pete

"Dave" <nospam@biteme.com> wrote in message

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> Pete KE9OA wrote:

>>

>> Linux is still my favorite operating platform, but unfortunately, it is

>> incompatible with the electrical engineering programs that I use. When it

>> eventually grows up, I thing Linux will be the way to go.

>

> Adolescence? Prepubescence?

>

> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/electronics/

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