cloning, imaging, and backing up

[Guest Jo-Anne Naples]

I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2 ports

and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or maybe two

of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a difference

between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things and wonder

if one software package would do it all or if I need more than one:

 

* Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB drive

in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal drive

crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or copy it

to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one so I can

seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs and redo

my personal settings.

 

* Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

 

* Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to the

internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash completely.

 

So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of the

newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

 

Thank you!

 

Jo-Anne

[Guest duke]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

On Jun 3, 7:21 pm, "Jo-Anne Naples" <nap...@tbcnet.com> wrote:

> I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2 ports

> and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or maybe two

> of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a difference

> between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things and wonder

> if one software package would do it all or if I need more than one:

>

> * Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB drive

> in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal drive

> crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or copy it

> to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one so I can

> seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs and redo

> my personal settings.

>

> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>

> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to the

> internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash completely.

>

> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of the

> newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>

> Thank you!

>

> Jo-Anne

[Guest duke]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

On Jun 3, 7:21 pm, "Jo-Anne Naples" <nap...@tbcnet.com> wrote:

> I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2 ports

> and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or maybe two

> of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a difference

> between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things and wonder

> if one software package would do it all or if I need more than one:

>

> * Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB drive

> in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal drive

> crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or copy it

> to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one so I can

> seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs and redo

> my personal settings.

>

> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>

> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to the

> internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash completely.

>

> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of the

> newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>

> Thank you!

>

> Jo-Anne

 

Acronis True Image is an outstanding product that will meet every one

of your expectations.

You have full control of what you want imaged, incremental images if

requested, plus image isolation to an area of your backup drive that

is accessible only to Acronis itself.

I believe it is the best piece of software ever written for this

purpose.

Go for it you won't be disappointed.

 

Duke

[Guest PD43]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

"Jo-Anne Naples" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote:

>I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2 ports

>and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or maybe two

>of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a difference

>between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things and wonder

>if one software package would do it all or if I need more than one:

>

>* Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB drive

>in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal drive

>crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or copy it

>to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one so I can

>seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs and redo

>my personal settings.

>

>* Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>

>* Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to the

>internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash completely.

>

>So...does any single program do all of what I want?

 

Acronis True Image... buy it at Newegg.com for $25. Free 3-day

shipping.

 

 

I've been looking at

>Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of the

>newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>

>Thank you!

>

>Jo-Anne

>

[Guest Fred]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

You can't go wrong with Acronis. Good support.

Fred

 

"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> "Jo-Anne Naples" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote:

>

>>I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2

>>ports

>>and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or maybe

>>two

>>of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a

>>difference

>>between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things and

>>wonder

>>if one software package would do it all or if I need more than one:

>>

>>* Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB

>>drive

>>in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal drive

>>crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or copy

>>it

>>to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one so I

>>can

>>seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs and redo

>>my personal settings.

>>

>>* Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>>

>>* Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to

>>the

>>internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash completely.

>>

>>So...does any single program do all of what I want?

>

> Acronis True Image... buy it at Newegg.com for $25. Free 3-day

> shipping.

>

>

> I've been looking at

>>Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of

>>the

>>newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>>

>>Thank you!

>>

>>Jo-Anne

>>

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

Acronis True Image can do most of what you want. See below.

 

Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

> I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2

> ports

> and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or maybe

> two

> of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a

> difference

> between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things and

> wonder

> if one software package would do it all or if I need more than one:

>

> * Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB

> drive

> in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal drive

> crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup

 

That's more like Casper, since you're CLONING a disk there.

That won't be doable if you just make an "image backup", BUT the next thing

will:

> and/or copy it

> to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one so I

> can

> seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs and redo

> my personal settings.

 

Yes - THAT will be doable using Acronis True Image (using imagining). You

simply restore the backed up image (which is like a compressed file

containing all your stuff) to the new source drive, and get everything back

as it was on the source drive.

> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

 

Can do this in True Image, yes. (But I often just rewrite it fresh again,

since it doesn't take all that long, and I have it all together). (or you

can do it in Casper, too)

> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to

> the

> internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash completely.

 

You can access the files in the backup image on the backup drive with True

Image to copy some of them back to the source drive if you want, in Windows

Explorer.

> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of

> the

> newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>

> Thank you!

>

> Jo-Anne

[Guest Lil' Dave]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

"Jo-Anne Naples" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

news:u7n0IFexIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2

>ports and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or

>maybe two of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a

>difference between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things

>and wonder if one software package would do it all or if I need more than

>one:

>

 

A clone is an identical copy to another hard drive including the file system

and master boot record.. The copied partitions may be larger if the hard

drive target is larger in capacity. This may be an option of the cloning

software.

 

An image is a file or files that contain the master boot record information,

the disk signature, the partition(s) information, each partition's

filesystem, all file data. The image file or files must be restored to a

blank hard drive, or capable of being voided by the restoration software,

via the imaging software. After restoration, the restored information on

the hard drive allows same use as the previously used hard drive. There may

be allowances duirng the image restore to increase the size of the

partition(s). However, by default, the restore will make the target hard

drive identical parttion sizes as the source hard drive.

> * Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB

> drive in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal

> drive crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or

> copy it to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one

> so I can seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs

> and redo my personal settings.

>

> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>

> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to

> the internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash

> completely.

>

> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of

> the newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

 

There are many, many cloning and imaging softwares out there. Casper

clones. TI images, and clones partitions not entire hard drives. Similar

with Ghost.

 

I haven't been able to determine what you want from your post.

--

Dave

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

Lil' Dave wrote:

> "Jo-Anne Naples" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

> news:u7n0IFexIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2

>> ports and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or

>> maybe two of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's

>> a

>> difference between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different

>> things

>> and wonder if one software package would do it all or if I need more than

>> one:

>>

>

> A clone is an identical copy to another hard drive including the file

> system

> and master boot record.. The copied partitions may be larger if the hard

> drive target is larger in capacity. This may be an option of the cloning

> software.

>

> An image is a file or files that contain the master boot record

> information,

> the disk signature, the partition(s) information, each partition's

> filesystem, all file data. The image file or files must be restored to a

> blank hard drive, or capable of being voided by the restoration software,

> via the imaging software. After restoration, the restored information on

> the hard drive allows same use as the previously used hard drive. There

> may

> be allowances duirng the image restore to increase the size of the

> partition(s). However, by default, the restore will make the target hard

> drive identical parttion sizes as the source hard drive.

>

>> * Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB

>> drive in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal

>> drive crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup

>> and/or

>> copy it to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old

>> one

>> so I can seamlessly start working again, without having to reload

>> programs

>> and redo my personal settings.

>>

>> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>>

>> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to

>> the internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash

>> completely.

>>

>> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

>> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of

>> the newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>

> There are many, many cloning and imaging softwares out there. Casper

> clones. TI images, and clones partitions not entire hard drives. Similar

> with Ghost.

>

> I haven't been able to determine what you want from your post.

> --

> Dave

 

That's why she's asking. She's trying to sort all this out, and admitedly,

it can be confusing.

[Guest PD43]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote:

>There are many, many cloning and imaging softwares out there. Casper

>clones. TI images, and clones partitions not entire hard drives. Similar

>with Ghost.

 

TI images anything. It clones entire drives, not partitions. You had

that part backwards.

[Guest Jo-Anne Naples]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

Thank you, everyone! You've been extremely helpful.

 

Jo-Anne

 

"Jo-Anne Naples" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

news:u7n0IFexIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2

>ports and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or

>maybe two of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a

>difference between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things

>and wonder if one software package would do it all or if I need more than

>one:

>

> * Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB

> drive in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal

> drive crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or

> copy it to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one

> so I can seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs

> and redo my personal settings.

>

> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>

> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to

> the internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash

> completely.

>

> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of

> the newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>

> Thank you!

>

> Jo-Anne

>

[Guest Timothy Daniels]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

"Jo-Anne Naples" wrote:

>I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer

> with USB2 ports and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an

> external hard drive (or maybe two of them) for backing up,

 

Or you can install another internal hard drive.

 

Or you can install a mobile rack if you have a spare

expansion bay, and you can put bootable clones

or images on it (them). Here is a manufacturer of

mobile racks that has a large product line:

http://kingwin.com/ide.asp (assuming that you have

IDE hard drives and not SATA).

 

> I'm confused about whether there's a difference between cloning

> and imaging.

 

The utility writers' terminology varies a lot, but for the purposes

of this NG, a clone is an exact sector-for-sector copy to another

hard drive, and it is directly bootable. An image is a *file* that

contains all the information necessary to re-create the original.

Acronis's True Image does both, but the clone will be of an entire

hard drive, and it cannot make clones of individual partitions.

Acronis's Disk Director 10 *can* make clones of individual

partitions. As a matter of personal taste, though, I prefer Casper 4.0,

which can make clones of individual partitions, and it does it

quickly because it doesn't bother cloning sectors that are empty.

Casper 4.0 also doesn't require one to disconnect the hard drive

that contains the original OS when one starts up the clone for its

first run.

 

> I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or copy it to a new internal

> hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one

> so I can seamlessly start working again, without having to reload

> programs and redo my personal settings.

 

The fastest up-and-running-again backup is the clone. It already

resides on a hard drive in bootable form. If that hard drive is another

internal hard drive, all you have to do is to restart the PC, and go into

the BIOS and put the backup hard drive at the head of the hard drive

boot sequence (some BIOSes instead allow just "enabling" one of the

hard drives as the "boot drive"). As the boot drive, the drive containing

the clone will boot up the OS as long as the OS's partition is marked

"active" and its boot.ini file points to the right partition.

 

> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>

> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to the

> internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash completely.

>

> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of the

> newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

 

I don't believe Casper does images, but it does incremental cloning

that greatly reduces the cloning time after the initial clone is made.

 

*TimDaniels*

[Guest Brian A.]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message

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>

> There are many, many cloning and imaging softwares out there. Casper clones.

> TI images, and clones partitions not entire hard drives. Similar with Ghost.

 

Incorrect, both ATI and Ghost can clone and image the entire disk.

>

> I haven't been able to determine what you want from your post.

> --

> Dave

>

 

 

--

 

 

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

 

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[Guest PD43]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

"Jo-Anne Naples" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote:

>Thank you, everyone! You've been extremely helpful.

>

>Jo-Anne

 

No problem. See you in a couple hours when your next crisis occurs.

[Guest PD43]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

PD43 <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote:

>"Jo-Anne Naples" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote:

>

>>Thank you, everyone! You've been extremely helpful.

>>

>>Jo-Anne

>

>No problem. See you in a couple hours when your next crisis occurs.

 

I was wrong. It was only 7 minutes.

[Guest Peter A]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

In article <u7n0IFexIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, naples@tbcnet.com

says...

> I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2 ports

> and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or maybe two

> of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a difference

> between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things and wonder

> if one software package would do it all or if I need more than one:

>

> * Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB drive

> in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal drive

> crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or copy it

> to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one so I can

> seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs and redo

> my personal settings.

>

> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>

> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to the

> internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash completely.

>

> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of the

> newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>

> Thank you!

>

> Jo-Anne

>

>

>

I can't speak about other programs for this task, but Ghost has a good

reputation. I use it, although I have never needed to call on it for a

system restore. It works by saving a "restore point" to a network or USB

drive. I do this automatically once a week. You also create a boot CD.

Then, if your hard drive goes loopy, you boot from the CD and perform a

restore from the external drive.

 

--

Peter Aitken

Author, MS Word for Medical and Technical Writers

http://www.tech-word.com

[Guest Jo-Anne Naples]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

I didn't know one had to have a crisis to post.

 

"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> "Jo-Anne Naples" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote:

>

>>Thank you, everyone! You've been extremely helpful.

>>

>>Jo-Anne

>

> No problem. See you in a couple hours when your next crisis occurs.

[Guest Jo-Anne Naples]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

Thank you, Tim! This is the clearest explanation of cloning versus imaging

that I've seen and answers my question about the differences in the programs

as well.

 

Jo-Anne

 

"Timothy Daniels" <NoSpam@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message

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> "Jo-Anne Naples" wrote:

>>I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer

>> with USB2 ports and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an

>> external hard drive (or maybe two of them) for backing up,

>

> Or you can install another internal hard drive.

>

> Or you can install a mobile rack if you have a spare

> expansion bay, and you can put bootable clones

> or images on it (them). Here is a manufacturer of

> mobile racks that has a large product line:

> http://kingwin.com/ide.asp (assuming that you have

> IDE hard drives and not SATA).

>

>

>> I'm confused about whether there's a difference between cloning

>> and imaging.

>

> The utility writers' terminology varies a lot, but for the purposes

> of this NG, a clone is an exact sector-for-sector copy to another

> hard drive, and it is directly bootable. An image is a *file* that

> contains all the information necessary to re-create the original.

> Acronis's True Image does both, but the clone will be of an entire

> hard drive, and it cannot make clones of individual partitions.

> Acronis's Disk Director 10 *can* make clones of individual

> partitions. As a matter of personal taste, though, I prefer Casper 4.0,

> which can make clones of individual partitions, and it does it

> quickly because it doesn't bother cloning sectors that are empty.

> Casper 4.0 also doesn't require one to disconnect the hard drive

> that contains the original OS when one starts up the clone for its

> first run.

>

>

>> I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or copy it to a new

>> internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one

>> so I can seamlessly start working again, without having to reload

>> programs and redo my personal settings.

>

> The fastest up-and-running-again backup is the clone. It already

> resides on a hard drive in bootable form. If that hard drive is another

> internal hard drive, all you have to do is to restart the PC, and go into

> the BIOS and put the backup hard drive at the head of the hard drive

> boot sequence (some BIOSes instead allow just "enabling" one of the

> hard drives as the "boot drive"). As the boot drive, the drive containing

> the clone will boot up the OS as long as the OS's partition is marked

> "active" and its boot.ini file points to the right partition.

>

>

>> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>>

>> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to

>> the internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash

>> completely.

>>

>> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

>> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of

>> the newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>

> I don't believe Casper does images, but it does incremental cloning

> that greatly reduces the cloning time after the initial clone is made.

>

> *TimDaniels*

>

>

[Guest Jo-Anne Naples]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

Thank you, Peter! It looks like it's a good idea to create a boot CD as well

as having everything on the external drive.

 

Jo-Anne

 

"Peter A" <paitken@CRAP.nc.rr.com> wrote in message

news:MPG.22b063e374dc3be19897e4@msnews.microsoft.com...

> In article <u7n0IFexIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, naples@tbcnet.com

> says...

>> I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2

>> ports

>> and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or maybe

>> two

>> of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a

>> difference

>> between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things and

>> wonder

>> if one software package would do it all or if I need more than one:

>>

>> * Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB

>> drive

>> in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal drive

>> crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or copy

>> it

>> to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one so I

>> can

>> seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs and

>> redo

>> my personal settings.

>>

>> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>>

>> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to

>> the

>> internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash completely.

>>

>> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

>> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of

>> the

>> newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>>

>> Thank you!

>>

>> Jo-Anne

>>

>>

>>

> I can't speak about other programs for this task, but Ghost has a good

> reputation. I use it, although I have never needed to call on it for a

> system restore. It works by saving a "restore point" to a network or USB

> drive. I do this automatically once a week. You also create a boot CD.

> Then, if your hard drive goes loopy, you boot from the CD and perform a

> restore from the external drive.

>

> --

> Peter Aitken

> Author, MS Word for Medical and Technical Writers

> http://www.tech-word.com

[Guest Fred]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

Acronis makes a boot CD for use with the Image Backups.

Fred

 

 

"Jo-Anne Naples" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

news:OBNNVilxIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Thank you, Peter! It looks like it's a good idea to create a boot CD as

> well as having everything on the external drive.

>

> Jo-Anne

>

> "Peter A" <paitken@CRAP.nc.rr.com> wrote in message

> news:MPG.22b063e374dc3be19897e4@msnews.microsoft.com...

>> In article <u7n0IFexIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, naples@tbcnet.com

>> says...

>>> I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2

>>> ports

>>> and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or maybe

>>> two

>>> of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a

>>> difference

>>> between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things and

>>> wonder

>>> if one software package would do it all or if I need more than one:

>>>

>>> * Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB

>>> drive

>>> in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal drive

>>> crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or

>>> copy it

>>> to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one so I

>>> can

>>> seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs and

>>> redo

>>> my personal settings.

>>>

>>> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>>>

>>> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive to

>>> the

>>> internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash

>>> completely.

>>>

>>> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking at

>>> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of

>>> the

>>> newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>>>

>>> Thank you!

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> I can't speak about other programs for this task, but Ghost has a good

>> reputation. I use it, although I have never needed to call on it for a

>> system restore. It works by saving a "restore point" to a network or USB

>> drive. I do this automatically once a week. You also create a boot CD.

>> Then, if your hard drive goes loopy, you boot from the CD and perform a

>> restore from the external drive.

>>

>> --

>> Peter Aitken

>> Author, MS Word for Medical and Technical Writers

>> http://www.tech-word.com

>

>

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

LOL. That's just PD43 being is usual self.

 

Jo-Anne Naples wrote:

> I didn't know one had to have a crisis to post.

>

> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:e6ec449rd4umgt74o3olkn1tgbi57dgnqg@4ax.com...

>> "Jo-Anne Naples" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote:

>>

>>> Thank you, everyone! You've been extremely helpful.

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne

>>

>> No problem. See you in a couple hours when your next crisis occurs.

[Guest Jo-Anne Naples]

Re: cloning, imaging, and backing up

 

Thanks much, Fred! I'm about to order that program.

 

Jo-Anne

 

"Fred" <No Can Do@Lost.net> wrote in message

news:%23lxq9TmxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Acronis makes a boot CD for use with the Image Backups.

> Fred

>

>

> "Jo-Anne Naples" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

> news:OBNNVilxIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Thank you, Peter! It looks like it's a good idea to create a boot CD as

>> well as having everything on the external drive.

>>

>> Jo-Anne

>>

>> "Peter A" <paitken@CRAP.nc.rr.com> wrote in message

>> news:MPG.22b063e374dc3be19897e4@msnews.microsoft.com...

>>> In article <u7n0IFexIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, naples@tbcnet.com

>>> says...

>>>> I use Windows XP, SP3, on a 5-year-old Dell desktop computer with USB2

>>>> ports

>>>> and a 60GB hard drive. I'm about to buy an external hard drive (or

>>>> maybe two

>>>> of them) for backing up, and I'm confused about whether there's a

>>>> difference

>>>> between cloning and imaging. I want to do a few different things and

>>>> wonder

>>>> if one software package would do it all or if I need more than one:

>>>>

>>>> * Back up or clone or image my internal hard drive to an external USB

>>>> drive

>>>> in such a way that I can recover everything easily if my internal drive

>>>> crashes. That is, I'd like to be able to boot from the backup and/or

>>>> copy it

>>>> to a new internal hard drive or a messed-up but functional old one so I

>>>> can

>>>> seamlessly start working again, without having to reload programs and

>>>> redo

>>>> my personal settings.

>>>>

>>>> * Be able to do regular incremental backups as well.

>>>>

>>>> * Be able to copy individual folders or files from the external drive

>>>> to the

>>>> internal one if I simply screw up something rather than crash

>>>> completely.

>>>>

>>>> So...does any single program do all of what I want? I've been looking

>>>> at

>>>> Acronis True Image and Casper 4 (at the suggestion of someone on one of

>>>> the

>>>> newsgroups); years ago I had Ghost but never actually used it.

>>>>

>>>> Thank you!

>>>>

>>>> Jo-Anne

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> I can't speak about other programs for this task, but Ghost has a good

>>> reputation. I use it, although I have never needed to call on it for a

>>> system restore. It works by saving a "restore point" to a network or USB

>>> drive. I do this automatically once a week. You also create a boot CD.

>>> Then, if your hard drive goes loopy, you boot from the CD and perform a

>>> restore from the external drive.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Peter Aitken

>>> Author, MS Word for Medical and Technical Writers

>>> http://www.tech-word.com

>>

>>

>

>