System Volume Information

June 4, 2008

On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

the Admin. on my computer.

Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

"drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

drives.

Thanks for any tips.

Charliec

******************************************************

Charliec

June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other drives,

go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the system

drive (normally C:).

(Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.

But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!

Charliec wrote:

> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

> the Admin. on my computer.

>

> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

> drives.

>

> Thanks for any tips.

>

> Charliec

> ******************************************************

> Charliec

June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Charliec wrote:

> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

> the Admin. on my computer.

>

> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

> drives.

>

> Thanks for any tips.

>

> Charliec

> ******************************************************

> Charliec

The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's System

Restore feature stores information used to recover from errors. By

default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the partition's size for

storing System Volume Information, but the amount of space set aside for

this purpose can be adjusted by the user. Start > All Programs >

Accessories > System Tools > System Restore > System Restore Settings,

select the pertinent partition and click Settings.

If you don't want to use System Restore, simply turn off the System

Restore feature (Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools >

System Restore, System Restore Settings) and reboot. This will, of

course, delete all of your previously saved Restore Points.

--

Bruce Chambers

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June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Bruce Chambers wrote:

> Charliec wrote:

>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>> the Admin. on my computer.

>>

>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>> drives.

>>

>> Thanks for any tips.

>>

>> Charliec

>> ******************************************************

>> Charliec

>

> The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's System

> Restore feature stores information used to recover from errors. By

> default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the partition's size for

> storing System Volume Information, but the amount of space set aside for

> this purpose can be adjusted by the user. Start > All Programs >

> Accessories > System Tools > System Restore > System Restore Settings,

> select the pertinent partition and click Settings.

>

> If you don't want to use System Restore, simply turn off the System

> Restore feature (Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools >

> System Restore, System Restore Settings) and reboot. This will, of

> course, delete all of your previously saved Restore Points.

But THAT is a dumb recommendation (to completely turn off System Restore).

(Frankly, I'm surprised you would even suggest or imply it!).

But for the OTHER drives, sure; but NOT for the system drive (nominally

C:).

As I said....

> --

>

> Bruce Chambers

>

> Help us help you:

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

>

> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

>

> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand

> Russell

>

> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

> killed a great many philosophers.

> ~ Denis Diderot

June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

"Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message

news:op0c449brq9u8b0f5kgj628nrcp49qtm14@4ax.com...

> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

> the Admin. on my computer.

>

> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

> drives.

>

> Thanks for any tips.

>

> Charliec

> ******************************************************

> Charliec

As Bruce and Bill stated, that's part where the system restore information

is kept. Its contains an open file until the PC is shutdown regarding XP.

That's why you can't have access to it by default.

If you trust system restore in the event of a problem to "fix" your PC,

leave system restore on. Bear in mind there are things that system restore

simply cannot fix.

If you have an imaging program that you use frequently, and are sure you can

recover using that, turn off system restore completely.

You can use both as an alternative.

System restore DOES NOTHING regarding any non-windows partition regarding

repair operations.

--

Dave

June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Bill in Co. wrote:

> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> Charliec wrote:

>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>>> the Admin. on my computer.

>>>

>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it

>>> was there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>>> drives.

>>>

>>> Thanks for any tips.

>>>

>>> Charliec

>>> ******************************************************

>>> Charliec

>>

>> The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's

>> System Restore feature stores information used to recover from

>> errors. By default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the

>> partition's size for storing System Volume Information, but the

>> amount of space set aside for this purpose can be adjusted by the

>> user. Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System

>> Restore > System Restore Settings, select the pertinent partition

>> and click Settings. If you don't want to use System Restore, simply turn

>> off the System

>> Restore feature (Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools >

>> System Restore, System Restore Settings) and reboot. This will, of

>> course, delete all of your previously saved Restore Points.

>

> But THAT is a dumb recommendation (to completely turn off System

> Restore). (Frankly, I'm surprised you would even suggest or imply

> it!). But for the OTHER drives, sure; but NOT for the system drive

> (nominally C:).

I can't think of any reason *not* to turn off System Restore if one is

managing things one's self by imaging/copying and maintaining registry

backups. Pretty silly to keep it in that situation. IMO, YMMV.

--

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June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Hi Lil' Dave,

But if someone DOES want to have access to the System Volume directory at

any time, they can do so by following the instructions in the KB article

entitled "How to gain access to the System Volume Information folder,"

found at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309531/en-us

Alan

"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message

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> "Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message

> news:op0c449brq9u8b0f5kgj628nrcp49qtm14@4ax.com...

>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>> the Admin. on my computer.

>>

>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>> drives.

>>

>> Thanks for any tips.

>>

>> Charliec

>> ******************************************************

>> Charliec

>

> As Bruce and Bill stated, that's part where the system restore information

> is kept. Its contains an open file until the PC is shutdown regarding XP.

> That's why you can't have access to it by default.

>

> If you trust system restore in the event of a problem to "fix" your PC,

> leave system restore on. Bear in mind there are things that system

> restore simply cannot fix.

>

> If you have an imaging program that you use frequently, and are sure you

> can recover using that, turn off system restore completely.

>

> You can use both as an alternative.

>

> System restore DOES NOTHING regarding any non-windows partition regarding

> repair operations.

> --

> Dave

>

June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Ok, I will give that a try.

Thanks

>On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other drives,

>go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the system

>drive (normally C:).

>(Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.

>

>But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!

>

>Charliec wrote:

>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>> the Admin. on my computer.

>>

>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>> drives.

>>

>> Thanks for any tips.

>>

>> Charliec

>> ******************************************************

>> Charliec

>

******************************************************

Charliec

June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted

the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information

folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go

away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from

these drives?

Thanks

>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote:

>Ok, I will give that a try.

>Thanks

>

>>On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>

>>It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other drives,

>>go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the system

>>drive (normally C:).

>>(Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.

>>

>>But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!

>>

>>Charliec wrote:

>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>>> the Admin. on my computer.

>>>

>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

>>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>>> drives.

>>>

>>> Thanks for any tips.

>>>

>>> Charliec

>>> ******************************************************

>>> Charliec

>>

>******************************************************

>Charliec

******************************************************

Charliec

June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Sure, just delete the folders in windows explorer.

Charliec wrote:

> Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted

> the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information

> folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go

> away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from

> these drives?

>

> Thanks

>

>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec

>> <charliec@invalid.address.com>

>> wrote:

>

>> Ok, I will give that a try.

>> Thanks

>>

>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co."

>>> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>

>>> It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other

>>> drives,

>>> go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the

>>> system

>>> drive (normally C:).

>>> (Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.

>>>

>>> But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!

>>>

>>> Charliec wrote:

>>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>>>> the Admin. on my computer.

>>>>

>>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

>>>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>>>> drives.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for any tips.

>>>>

>>>> Charliec

>>>> ******************************************************

>>>> Charliec

>>>

>> ******************************************************

>> Charliec

> ******************************************************

> Charliec

June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

dadiOH wrote:

> Bill in Co. wrote:

>> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>>> Charliec wrote:

>>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>>>> the Admin. on my computer.

>>>>

>>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it

>>>> was there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>>>> drives.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for any tips.

>>>>

>>>> Charliec

>>>> ******************************************************

>>>> Charliec

>>>

>>> The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's

>>> System Restore feature stores information used to recover from

>>> errors. By default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the

>>> partition's size for storing System Volume Information, but the

>>> amount of space set aside for this purpose can be adjusted by the

>>> user. Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System

>>> Restore > System Restore Settings, select the pertinent partition

>>> and click Settings. If you don't want to use System Restore, simply turn

>>> off the System

>>> Restore feature (Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools >

>>> System Restore, System Restore Settings) and reboot. This will, of

>>> course, delete all of your previously saved Restore Points.

>>

>> But THAT is a dumb recommendation (to completely turn off System

>> Restore). (Frankly, I'm surprised you would even suggest or imply

>> it!). But for the OTHER drives, sure; but NOT for the system drive

>> (nominally C:).

>

> I can't think of any reason *not* to turn off System Restore if one is

> managing things one's self by imaging/copying and maintaining registry

> backups. Pretty silly to keep it in that situation. IMO, YMMV.

It's called using the right tool for the right job. (Sometimes restoring

an image backup is just overkill, and unnecessary). That's why I have

(and have used) three different tools for different occasions: ERUNT,

System Restore, and Backup Image Restoration. Each has it's place.

Granted, if you only could have one, the image backup would be all

encompassing. But it's kinda like using a sledge hammer to pound a nail,

in some instances.

June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> managing things one's self by imaging/copying and maintaining registry

>> backups. Pretty silly to keep it in that situation. IMO, YMMV.

>

>It's called using the right tool for the right job.

Yeah! Like using an outdated anti-virus program without any updates

to protect yourself against virus infestation.

June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Bill,

I tried deleting the folder and received the following message:

Cannot delete System volume Information: Access Denied

Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is

not currently in use.

I double checked System Restore and the restore for those drives is

off. I checked Properties for the folder and it was set to read only,

so I unchecked it, same error message, and rechecking Properties for

the folder, read only was rechecked.

In MyComputer, I checked Folder Options and I have "Show Hidden Files

and Folders" checked. Maybe unchecking that would remove that folder

from showing (and others that I see on each drive such as

vProRecovery, Recycler, $Recycle.bin) - the Icon for each folder is

"greyed" out. They would poobably still be there, but not showing.

I will try unclecking "Show Hidden Files and Folders" and see what

happen. If you have other suggestions, let me know.

Thanks for your assistance.

Charliec

> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:05:31 -0600, "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Sure, just delete the folders in windows explorer.

>

>Charliec wrote:

>> Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted

>> the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information

>> folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go

>> away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from

>> these drives?

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec

>>> <charliec@invalid.address.com>

>>> wrote:

>>

>>> Ok, I will give that a try.

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co."

>>>> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>

>>>> It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other

>>>> drives,

>>>> go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the

>>>> system

>>>> drive (normally C:).

>>>> (Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.

>>>>

>>>> But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!

>>>>

>>>> Charliec wrote:

>>>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>>>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>>>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>>>>> the Admin. on my computer.

>>>>>

>>>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

>>>>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>>>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>>>>> drives.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks for any tips.

>>>>>

>>>>> Charliec

>>>>> ******************************************************

>>>>> Charliec

>>>>

>>> ******************************************************

>>> Charliec

>> ******************************************************

>> Charliec

>

******************************************************

Charliec

June 4, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Of course I expect that if you ever want to use backup software that

uses Volume Shadow Copy that you will be back here posting that the

software doesn't work and after 64 different replies from 54 different

poster you will finally let one of them know that you have no SVI folder.

John

Charliec wrote:

> Bill,

>

> I tried deleting the folder and received the following message:

>

> Cannot delete System volume Information: Access Denied

> Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is

> not currently in use.

>

> I double checked System Restore and the restore for those drives is

> off. I checked Properties for the folder and it was set to read only,

> so I unchecked it, same error message, and rechecking Properties for

> the folder, read only was rechecked.

>

> In MyComputer, I checked Folder Options and I have "Show Hidden Files

> and Folders" checked. Maybe unchecking that would remove that folder

> from showing (and others that I see on each drive such as

> vProRecovery, Recycler, $Recycle.bin) - the Icon for each folder is

> "greyed" out. They would poobably still be there, but not showing.

>

> I will try unclecking "Show Hidden Files and Folders" and see what

> happen. If you have other suggestions, let me know.

>

> Thanks for your assistance.

>

> Charliec

>

>>On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:05:31 -0600, "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>

>>Sure, just delete the folders in windows explorer.

>>

>>Charliec wrote:

>>

>>>Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted

>>>the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information

>>>folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go

>>>away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from

>>>these drives?

>>>

>>>Thanks

>>>

>>>>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec

>>>><charliec@invalid.address.com>

>>>>wrote:

>>>

>>>>Ok, I will give that a try.

>>>>Thanks

>>>>

>>>>>On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co."

>>>>><not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other

>>>>>drives,

>>>>>go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the

>>>>>system

>>>>>drive (normally C:).

>>>>>(Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.

>>>>>

>>>>>But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!

>>>>>

>>>>>Charliec wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>>>>>>Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>>>>>>created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>>>>>>the Admin. on my computer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

>>>>>>there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>>>>>>"drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>>>>>>drives.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Thanks for any tips.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Charliec

>>>>>>******************************************************

>>>>>>Charliec

>>>>>

>>>>******************************************************

>>>>Charliec

>>>

>>>******************************************************

>>>Charliec

>>

> ******************************************************

> Charliec

June 5, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Soooo! What is your recommendation/suggestion - if you have one?

>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:36:53 -0300, "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>Of course I expect that if you ever want to use backup software that

>uses Volume Shadow Copy that you will be back here posting that the

>software doesn't work and after 64 different replies from 54 different

>poster you will finally let one of them know that you have no SVI folder.

>

>John

>

>Charliec wrote:

>

>> Bill,

>>

>> I tried deleting the folder and received the following message:

>>

>> Cannot delete System volume Information: Access Denied

>> Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is

>> not currently in use.

>>

>> I double checked System Restore and the restore for those drives is

>> off. I checked Properties for the folder and it was set to read only,

>> so I unchecked it, same error message, and rechecking Properties for

>> the folder, read only was rechecked.

>>

>> In MyComputer, I checked Folder Options and I have "Show Hidden Files

>> and Folders" checked. Maybe unchecking that would remove that folder

>> from showing (and others that I see on each drive such as

>> vProRecovery, Recycler, $Recycle.bin) - the Icon for each folder is

>> "greyed" out. They would poobably still be there, but not showing.

>>

>> I will try unclecking "Show Hidden Files and Folders" and see what

>> happen. If you have other suggestions, let me know.

>>

>> Thanks for your assistance.

>>

>> Charliec

>>

>>>On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:05:31 -0600, "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>

>>>Sure, just delete the folders in windows explorer.

>>>

>>>Charliec wrote:

>>>

>>>>Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted

>>>>the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information

>>>>folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go

>>>>away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from

>>>>these drives?

>>>>

>>>>Thanks

>>>>

>>>>>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec

>>>>><charliec@invalid.address.com>

>>>>>wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>Ok, I will give that a try.

>>>>>Thanks

>>>>>

>>>>>>On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co."

>>>>>><not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other

>>>>>>drives,

>>>>>>go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the

>>>>>>system

>>>>>>drive (normally C:).

>>>>>>(Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Charliec wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>>>>>>>Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>>>>>>>created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>>>>>>>the Admin. on my computer.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

>>>>>>>there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>>>>>>>"drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>>>>>>>drives.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Thanks for any tips.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Charliec

>>>>>>>******************************************************

>>>>>>>Charliec

>>>>>>

>>>>>******************************************************

>>>>>Charliec

>>>>

>>>>******************************************************

>>>>Charliec

>>>

>> ******************************************************

>> Charliec

******************************************************

Charliec

June 5, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Bill in Co. wrote:

>

> But THAT is a dumb recommendation (to completely turn off System Restore).

Try working on your reading comprehension. At no time did I

"recommend" turning off System Restore. I merely mentioned that it

could be done, if so desired.

> (Frankly, I'm surprised you would even suggest or imply it!).

Again, I did neither. But why are you so alarmed that I actually

provided the OP with an education?

> But for the OTHER drives, sure; but NOT for the system drive (nominally

> C:).

Given System Restore's very limited utility, and the general user's

complete misunderstanding of its purpose, I don't see why one shouldn't

feel free to disable it, provided other - and almost certainly superior

- recovery methods are available. But that's for to each individual

user to decide.

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June 5, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

dadiOH wrote:

>

> I can't think of any reason *not* to turn off System Restore if one is

> managing things one's self by imaging/copying and maintaining registry

> backups. Pretty silly to keep it in that situation. IMO, YMMV.

>

Precisely.

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Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

killed a great many philosophers.

~ Denis Diderot

June 5, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Bruce Chambers wrote:

> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>

>> But THAT is a dumb recommendation (to completely turn off System

>> Restore).

>

> Try working on your reading comprehension. At no time did I

> "recommend" turning off System Restore. I merely mentioned that it

> could be done, if so desired.

Sorry, I thought you had talked about turning it all off.

>> (Frankly, I'm surprised you would even suggest or imply it!).

>

> Again, I did neither. But why are you so alarmed that I actually

> provided the OP with an education?

Need to be careful on the education, however (more below).

>> But for the OTHER drives, sure; but NOT for the system drive (nominally

>> C:).

>

> Given System Restore's very limited utility, and the general user's

I don't consider it "very limited". But I do consider it "limited". And

there is a difference.

> complete misunderstanding of its purpose, I don't see why one shouldn't

> feel free to disable it, provided other - and almost certainly superior

> - recovery methods are available. But that's for to each individual

> user to decide.

Right, but to encourage (or indirectly imply) it might be a good idea, I

think, is a bit irresponsible. More especially if he has no other

backups - but EVEN if he does. And even more especially to a newbie (the

idea of not having any System Restore)

Like most things, it's a tool, and using the appropriate tool for the

appropriate job is the wisest approach. (IMO).

June 5, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

PD43 wrote:

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>

>>> managing things one's self by imaging/copying and maintaining registry

>>> backups. Pretty silly to keep it in that situation. IMO, YMMV.

>>

>> It's called using the right tool for the right job.

>

> Yeah! Like using an outdated anti-virus program without any updates

> to protect yourself against virus infestation.

Uh huh. WHAT virus infestation????

Funny, haven't seen too many over here, in all the years I've been online -

and trust me, that's a bunch. Don't believe me?? Go look in the Win98

group, and maybe even the Win95 group (I can't recall for sure on that one).

And some BBS's (pre Internet as we now know it)

June 5, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

I seem to recall an article on this. Let me see..

Ahhh yes: Article #309531, at the Microsoft Web Site, entitled:

"How to gain access to th System Volume Information folder."

Search for it.

Charliec wrote:

> Bill,

>

> I tried deleting the folder and received the following message:

>

> Cannot delete System volume Information: Access Denied

> Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is

> not currently in use.

>

> I double checked System Restore and the restore for those drives is

> off. I checked Properties for the folder and it was set to read only,

> so I unchecked it, same error message, and rechecking Properties for

> the folder, read only was rechecked.

>

> In MyComputer, I checked Folder Options and I have "Show Hidden Files

> and Folders" checked. Maybe unchecking that would remove that folder

> from showing (and others that I see on each drive such as

> vProRecovery, Recycler, $Recycle.bin) - the Icon for each folder is

> "greyed" out. They would poobably still be there, but not showing.

>

> I will try unclecking "Show Hidden Files and Folders" and see what

> happen. If you have other suggestions, let me know.

>

> Thanks for your assistance.

>

> Charliec

>

>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:05:31 -0600, "Bill in Co."

>> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>

>> Sure, just delete the folders in windows explorer.

>>

>> Charliec wrote:

>>> Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted

>>> the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information

>>> folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go

>>> away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from

>>> these drives?

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec

>>>> <charliec@invalid.address.com>

>>>> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Ok, I will give that a try.

>>>> Thanks

>>>>

>>>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co."

>>>>> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other

>>>>> drives,

>>>>> go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the

>>>>> system

>>>>> drive (normally C:).

>>>>> (Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.

>>>>>

>>>>> But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!

>>>>>

>>>>> Charliec wrote:

>>>>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>>>>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>>>>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>>>>>> the Admin. on my computer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

>>>>>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>>>>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>>>>>> drives.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks for any tips.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Charliec

>>>>>> ******************************************************

>>>>>> Charliec

>>>>>

>>>> ******************************************************

>>>> Charliec

>>> ******************************************************

>>> Charliec

>>

> ******************************************************

> Charliec

June 5, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Charliec added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

> the Admin. on my computer.

>

> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

> drives.

>

> Thanks for any tips.

>

unless you turn it off, Windoze will automagically create RPs on every

HDD partition it finds. it isn't restricted, just add your account in

the "security" section. and, turn RPs off on all but your C:\ as it

only backs up system files, NOT your data. good luck.

--

HP, aka Jerry

"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"

June 5, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Bruce Chambers wrote:

> dadiOH wrote:

>>

>> I can't think of any reason *not* to turn off System Restore if one is

>> managing things one's self by imaging/copying and maintaining registry

>> backups. Pretty silly to keep it in that situation. IMO, YMMV.

>

> Precisely.

Let me help. More below...

It's called, using the right tool for the right job. And - it is much more

prudent.

For example, like using one of these (and each has its niche), as

appropriate:

ERUNT,

or System Restore,

or last, but not least (and, in fact, most):

an Image (or Clone) Restore (which is a bit overkill in many instances)

June 5, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> Yeah! Like using an outdated anti-virus program without any updates

>> to protect yourself against virus infestation.

>

>Uh huh. WHAT virus infestation????

>Funny, haven't seen too many over here, in all the years I've been online -

>and trust me, that's a bunch. Don't believe me?? Go look in the Win98

>group, and maybe even the Win95 group (I can't recall for sure on that one).

>And some BBS's (pre Internet as we now know it)

I believe you. The oldest post of mine that I've found ( using Google

Groups) dates to the Spring of '94.

June 5, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Do you think everyone has the same reading comprehension as you? 'It could

be done' can mean different things to different people. To avoid confusion

don't even mention turning off System Restore.

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

news:uspgGgqxIHA.5652@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>

>> But THAT is a dumb recommendation (to completely turn off System

>> Restore).

>

> Try working on your reading comprehension. At no time did I "recommend"

> turning off System Restore. I merely mentioned that it could be done, if

> so desired.

>

>> (Frankly, I'm surprised you would even suggest or imply it!).

>

> Again, I did neither. But why are you so alarmed that I actually provided

> the OP with an education?

>

>> But for the OTHER drives, sure; but NOT for the system drive (nominally

>> C:).

>

> Given System Restore's very limited utility, and the general user's

> complete misunderstanding of its purpose, I don't see why one shouldn't

> feel free to disable it, provided other - and almost certainly superior -

> recovery methods are available. But that's for to each individual user to

> decide.

>

> --

>

> Bruce Chambers

>

> Help us help you:

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

>

> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

>

> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand

> Russell

>

> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

> killed a great many philosophers.

> ~ Denis Diderot

June 7, 2008

Re: System Volume Information

Those folders will go away by them selves if you turn off System Restore for

that drive. At least most if not all files/folders will go away. If not,

you will have access to delete the remaining folders. Once you turn ON

System Restore for that partition, the folders will come back.

Maybe you should change and keep your system set to Hide System Files and

Hidden files... and don't worry about those folders..... that is my

suggestion.

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

news:epBiBVfxIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Charliec wrote:

>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume

>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what

>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am

>> the Admin. on my computer.

>>

>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was

>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as

>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the

>> drives.

>>

>> Thanks for any tips.

>>

>> Charliec

>> ******************************************************

>> Charliec

>

> The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's System

> Restore feature stores information used to recover from errors. By

> default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the partition's size for

> storing System Volume Information, but the amount of space set aside for

> this purpose can be adjusted by the user. Start > All Programs >

> Accessories > System Tools > System Restore > System Restore Settings,

> select the pertinent partition and click Settings.

>

> If you don't want to use System Restore, simply turn off the System

> Restore feature (Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools >

> System Restore, System Restore Settings) and reboot. This will, of

> course, delete all of your previously saved Restore Points.

>

> --

>

> Bruce Chambers

>

> Help us help you:

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

>

> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

>

> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand

> Russell

>

> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

> killed a great many philosophers.

> ~ Denis Diderot

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