Stop Error when replacing Motherboard, how to fix this

[Guest Bill Simard]

I am replacing my motherboard on my XP PRO machine.

The last time I did this I got a Stop 0X000000 error and after much

searching found the cause was the IDE controller being different.

 

I had to reinstall XP from the CD and that wipes out all my updates and some

of my programs, including my anti-virus, causing me to have to reinstall,

which is a big hassle and takes weeks to get everything back up and running

again.

 

I have heard a rumor that there are 2 files, that if deleted before the

motherboard is replaced, XP will detect the new IDE controller and rebuild

these 2 files and I will not need to re-do all the windows updates and will

not have to reinstall all my software programs.

 

Does anyone know what these 2 files are ? Is this true, or is there another

way to make this work ?

 

Thanks for the help

 

Bill

[Guest R. McCarty]

Re: Stop Error when replacing Motherboard, how to fix this

 

Not delete, but replace the vendor specific Mass Storage controller

driver with a "Generic" drive. Usually this is "Standard Dual PCI IDE

controller". Once the hardware swap is completed it's necessary to

reapply the correct Vendor driver. This is NOT a universal fix as it

has some less than desirable after effects. Also there can be issues if

the original platform is PATA ( Parallel ATA ) and the destination PC

uses the newer SATA ( Serial ATA ).

 

"Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:9CFA6524-0F4F-4742-A71D-4487D209A493@microsoft.com...

>I am replacing my motherboard on my XP PRO machine.

> The last time I did this I got a Stop 0X000000 error and after much

> searching found the cause was the IDE controller being different.

>

> I had to reinstall XP from the CD and that wipes out all my updates and

> some

> of my programs, including my anti-virus, causing me to have to reinstall,

> which is a big hassle and takes weeks to get everything back up and

> running

> again.

>

> I have heard a rumor that there are 2 files, that if deleted before the

> motherboard is replaced, XP will detect the new IDE controller and rebuild

> these 2 files and I will not need to re-do all the windows updates and

> will

> not have to reinstall all my software programs.

>

> Does anyone know what these 2 files are ? Is this true, or is there

> another

> way to make this work ?

>

> Thanks for the help

>

> Bill

>

[Guest Bill Simard]

Re: Stop Error when replacing Motherboard, how to fix this

 

So in Device Manager I should change the IDE ATA/ATAPI controller which now

says:

 

Intel® 82801DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CB

 

to a generic IDE controller ? Is that generic controller in Windows XP ?

 

Should I use the Update driver to change it ?

 

What if I delete it and then shut down just before I replace the MB.

 

Would it find the new hardware on boot up, or would it give me the STOP

error 0X00000 again ?

 

Thanks

 

Bill

 

 

"R. McCarty" wrote:

> Not delete, but replace the vendor specific Mass Storage controller

> driver with a "Generic" drive. Usually this is "Standard Dual PCI IDE

> controller". Once the hardware swap is completed it's necessary to

> reapply the correct Vendor driver. This is NOT a universal fix as it

> has some less than desirable after effects. Also there can be issues if

> the original platform is PATA ( Parallel ATA ) and the destination PC

> uses the newer SATA ( Serial ATA ).

>

> "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:9CFA6524-0F4F-4742-A71D-4487D209A493@microsoft.com...

> >I am replacing my motherboard on my XP PRO machine.

> > The last time I did this I got a Stop 0X000000 error and after much

> > searching found the cause was the IDE controller being different.

> >

> > I had to reinstall XP from the CD and that wipes out all my updates and

> > some

> > of my programs, including my anti-virus, causing me to have to reinstall,

> > which is a big hassle and takes weeks to get everything back up and

> > running

> > again.

> >

> > I have heard a rumor that there are 2 files, that if deleted before the

> > motherboard is replaced, XP will detect the new IDE controller and rebuild

> > these 2 files and I will not need to re-do all the windows updates and

> > will

> > not have to reinstall all my software programs.

> >

> > Does anyone know what these 2 files are ? Is this true, or is there

> > another

> > way to make this work ?

> >

> > Thanks for the help

> >

> > Bill

> >

>

>

>

[Guest Bill Simard]

Re: Stop Error when replacing Motherboard, how to fix this

 

This is a second question I forgot to ask.

 

I'm just swapping Mother Boards, so the hard drive stays the same.

 

What are the less than desirable effects ?

 

Thanks

 

Bill

 

 

"R. McCarty" wrote:

> Not delete, but replace the vendor specific Mass Storage controller

> driver with a "Generic" drive. Usually this is "Standard Dual PCI IDE

> controller". Once the hardware swap is completed it's necessary to

> reapply the correct Vendor driver. This is NOT a universal fix as it

> has some less than desirable after effects. Also there can be issues if

> the original platform is PATA ( Parallel ATA ) and the destination PC

> uses the newer SATA ( Serial ATA ).

>

> "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:9CFA6524-0F4F-4742-A71D-4487D209A493@microsoft.com...

> >I am replacing my motherboard on my XP PRO machine.

> > The last time I did this I got a Stop 0X000000 error and after much

> > searching found the cause was the IDE controller being different.

> >

> > I had to reinstall XP from the CD and that wipes out all my updates and

> > some

> > of my programs, including my anti-virus, causing me to have to reinstall,

> > which is a big hassle and takes weeks to get everything back up and

> > running

> > again.

> >

> > I have heard a rumor that there are 2 files, that if deleted before the

> > motherboard is replaced, XP will detect the new IDE controller and rebuild

> > these 2 files and I will not need to re-do all the windows updates and

> > will

> > not have to reinstall all my software programs.

> >

> > Does anyone know what these 2 files are ? Is this true, or is there

> > another

> > way to make this work ?

> >

> > Thanks for the help

> >

> > Bill

> >

>

>

>

[Guest R. McCarty]

Re: Stop Error when replacing Motherboard, how to fix this

 

If you do a repair or In-Place install, one part of that is rebuilding

the device table ( enum ). If you just switch Mass Storage drivers

and swap ( and the machine boots ) it will add all the new devices

but leave the old hardware in the tables, as "Phantom" entries. To

clean up you have to add an environment variable and set it's value

to 1 so that "Plug-&-Play" phantom devices are shown. Normally

even with the DevMgr Show Hidden Devices toggled XP will not

show the Plug-&-Play phantoms.

 

The effect varies depending on much the two motherboard chipset

components are different. Things like Northbridge/Southbridge sets

require different drivers but Via and Intel Chipset drivers are usually

composite drivers ( meaning they work for a wide range of chips ).

When you go to install chipset drivers they do a check and if they

aren't compatible/designed for your hardware will refuse to load.

 

"Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:0FD13781-87B3-4D61-BCC7-EAF324ED913C@microsoft.com...

> This is a second question I forgot to ask.

>

> I'm just swapping Mother Boards, so the hard drive stays the same.

>

> What are the less than desirable effects ?

>

> Thanks

>

> Bill

>

>

> "R. McCarty" wrote:

>

>> Not delete, but replace the vendor specific Mass Storage controller

>> driver with a "Generic" drive. Usually this is "Standard Dual PCI IDE

>> controller". Once the hardware swap is completed it's necessary to

>> reapply the correct Vendor driver. This is NOT a universal fix as it

>> has some less than desirable after effects. Also there can be issues if

>> the original platform is PATA ( Parallel ATA ) and the destination PC

>> uses the newer SATA ( Serial ATA ).

>>

>> "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:9CFA6524-0F4F-4742-A71D-4487D209A493@microsoft.com...

>> >I am replacing my motherboard on my XP PRO machine.

>> > The last time I did this I got a Stop 0X000000 error and after much

>> > searching found the cause was the IDE controller being different.

>> >

>> > I had to reinstall XP from the CD and that wipes out all my updates and

>> > some

>> > of my programs, including my anti-virus, causing me to have to

>> > reinstall,

>> > which is a big hassle and takes weeks to get everything back up and

>> > running

>> > again.

>> >

>> > I have heard a rumor that there are 2 files, that if deleted before the

>> > motherboard is replaced, XP will detect the new IDE controller and

>> > rebuild

>> > these 2 files and I will not need to re-do all the windows updates and

>> > will

>> > not have to reinstall all my software programs.

>> >

>> > Does anyone know what these 2 files are ? Is this true, or is there

>> > another

>> > way to make this work ?

>> >

>> > Thanks for the help

>> >

>> > Bill

>> >

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Bill Simard]

Re: Stop Error when replacing Motherboard, how to fix this

 

Where do I add this environment variable ?

 

My biggest problem has been that it won't boot into XP. It trys, but then

gets the BSOD Stop error because the IDE controllers are different.

 

If I can get it to not do that and actually get into windows then I should

be able to use safe mode to see those phantoms.

 

I've seen them before using safe mode in ME and was able to remove them, but

ME did not cause the system crash when swapping motherboards.

 

I could delete everyhting out of the device manager and then shut down, that

would eliminate most of the old values , wouldn't it ? before replacing the

MB .

 

Thanks again

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

"R. McCarty" wrote:

> If you do a repair or In-Place install, one part of that is rebuilding

> the device table ( enum ). If you just switch Mass Storage drivers

> and swap ( and the machine boots ) it will add all the new devices

> but leave the old hardware in the tables, as "Phantom" entries. To

> clean up you have to add an environment variable and set it's value

> to 1 so that "Plug-&-Play" phantom devices are shown. Normally

> even with the DevMgr Show Hidden Devices toggled XP will not

> show the Plug-&-Play phantoms.

>

> The effect varies depending on much the two motherboard chipset

> components are different. Things like Northbridge/Southbridge sets

> require different drivers but Via and Intel Chipset drivers are usually

> composite drivers ( meaning they work for a wide range of chips ).

> When you go to install chipset drivers they do a check and if they

> aren't compatible/designed for your hardware will refuse to load.

>

> "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:0FD13781-87B3-4D61-BCC7-EAF324ED913C@microsoft.com...

> > This is a second question I forgot to ask.

> >

> > I'm just swapping Mother Boards, so the hard drive stays the same.

> >

> > What are the less than desirable effects ?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

> > "R. McCarty" wrote:

> >

> >> Not delete, but replace the vendor specific Mass Storage controller

> >> driver with a "Generic" drive. Usually this is "Standard Dual PCI IDE

> >> controller". Once the hardware swap is completed it's necessary to

> >> reapply the correct Vendor driver. This is NOT a universal fix as it

> >> has some less than desirable after effects. Also there can be issues if

> >> the original platform is PATA ( Parallel ATA ) and the destination PC

> >> uses the newer SATA ( Serial ATA ).

> >>

> >> "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:9CFA6524-0F4F-4742-A71D-4487D209A493@microsoft.com...

> >> >I am replacing my motherboard on my XP PRO machine.

> >> > The last time I did this I got a Stop 0X000000 error and after much

> >> > searching found the cause was the IDE controller being different.

> >> >

> >> > I had to reinstall XP from the CD and that wipes out all my updates and

> >> > some

> >> > of my programs, including my anti-virus, causing me to have to

> >> > reinstall,

> >> > which is a big hassle and takes weeks to get everything back up and

> >> > running

> >> > again.

> >> >

> >> > I have heard a rumor that there are 2 files, that if deleted before the

> >> > motherboard is replaced, XP will detect the new IDE controller and

> >> > rebuild

> >> > these 2 files and I will not need to re-do all the windows updates and

> >> > will

> >> > not have to reinstall all my software programs.

> >> >

> >> > Does anyone know what these 2 files are ? Is this true, or is there

> >> > another

> >> > way to make this work ?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks for the help

> >> >

> >> > Bill

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest R. McCarty]

Re: Stop Error when replacing Motherboard, how to fix this

 

Q1 - System, Advanced, Environment Variables (Button) System -

Add ( Variable name DevMgr_Show_NonPresent_Devices )

Set it's value = 1

 

S2 - Safe Mode doesn't affect the ability to view/see "Phantoms"

 

Q2 - Not possible, certain deletions automatically trigger a "Reboot

Request", you can remove the PCI Bus driver that removes

everything but I wouldn't approach this in that way.

 

You might be better off to do a Repair install and SP3 and then the

handful of post-Sp3 updates to get the machine platform change done.

 

 

"Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:447C1D98-B012-445E-95D5-685FB5429B75@microsoft.com...

> Where do I add this environment variable ?

>

> My biggest problem has been that it won't boot into XP. It trys, but then

> gets the BSOD Stop error because the IDE controllers are different.

>

> If I can get it to not do that and actually get into windows then I should

> be able to use safe mode to see those phantoms.

>

> I've seen them before using safe mode in ME and was able to remove them,

> but

> ME did not cause the system crash when swapping motherboards.

>

> I could delete everyhting out of the device manager and then shut down,

> that

> would eliminate most of the old values , wouldn't it ? before replacing

> the

> MB .

>

> Thanks again

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

> "R. McCarty" wrote:

>

>> If you do a repair or In-Place install, one part of that is rebuilding

>> the device table ( enum ). If you just switch Mass Storage drivers

>> and swap ( and the machine boots ) it will add all the new devices

>> but leave the old hardware in the tables, as "Phantom" entries. To

>> clean up you have to add an environment variable and set it's value

>> to 1 so that "Plug-&-Play" phantom devices are shown. Normally

>> even with the DevMgr Show Hidden Devices toggled XP will not

>> show the Plug-&-Play phantoms.

>>

>> The effect varies depending on much the two motherboard chipset

>> components are different. Things like Northbridge/Southbridge sets

>> require different drivers but Via and Intel Chipset drivers are usually

>> composite drivers ( meaning they work for a wide range of chips ).

>> When you go to install chipset drivers they do a check and if they

>> aren't compatible/designed for your hardware will refuse to load.

>>

>> "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:0FD13781-87B3-4D61-BCC7-EAF324ED913C@microsoft.com...

>> > This is a second question I forgot to ask.

>> >

>> > I'm just swapping Mother Boards, so the hard drive stays the same.

>> >

>> > What are the less than desirable effects ?

>> >

>> > Thanks

>> >

>> > Bill

>> >

>> >

>> > "R. McCarty" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Not delete, but replace the vendor specific Mass Storage controller

>> >> driver with a "Generic" drive. Usually this is "Standard Dual PCI IDE

>> >> controller". Once the hardware swap is completed it's necessary to

>> >> reapply the correct Vendor driver. This is NOT a universal fix as it

>> >> has some less than desirable after effects. Also there can be issues

>> >> if

>> >> the original platform is PATA ( Parallel ATA ) and the destination PC

>> >> uses the newer SATA ( Serial ATA ).

>> >>

>> >> "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:9CFA6524-0F4F-4742-A71D-4487D209A493@microsoft.com...

>> >> >I am replacing my motherboard on my XP PRO machine.

>> >> > The last time I did this I got a Stop 0X000000 error and after much

>> >> > searching found the cause was the IDE controller being different.

>> >> >

>> >> > I had to reinstall XP from the CD and that wipes out all my updates

>> >> > and

>> >> > some

>> >> > of my programs, including my anti-virus, causing me to have to

>> >> > reinstall,

>> >> > which is a big hassle and takes weeks to get everything back up and

>> >> > running

>> >> > again.

>> >> >

>> >> > I have heard a rumor that there are 2 files, that if deleted before

>> >> > the

>> >> > motherboard is replaced, XP will detect the new IDE controller and

>> >> > rebuild

>> >> > these 2 files and I will not need to re-do all the windows updates

>> >> > and

>> >> > will

>> >> > not have to reinstall all my software programs.

>> >> >

>> >> > Does anyone know what these 2 files are ? Is this true, or is there

>> >> > another

>> >> > way to make this work ?

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks for the help

>> >> >

>> >> > Bill

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest 3c273]

Re: Stop Error when replacing Motherboard, how to fix this

 

I don't mean to sound rude, but according to the timestamps of your posts,

you've been beating your head against the wall trying to bugger up an old

installation of XP for at least 5 hours. In that amount of time, you

could've installed XP and most, if not all, all of your programs. Then you'd

just need to let automatic updates do its thing and you'd be done. Sorry I

don't have a solution to your specific problem, but IMHO, I think you would

be better off with a clean install.

Louis

 

"Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:447C1D98-B012-445E-95D5-685FB5429B75@microsoft.com...

> Where do I add this environment variable ?

>

> My biggest problem has been that it won't boot into XP. It trys, but then

> gets the BSOD Stop error because the IDE controllers are different.

>

> If I can get it to not do that and actually get into windows then I should

> be able to use safe mode to see those phantoms.

>

> I've seen them before using safe mode in ME and was able to remove them,

but

> ME did not cause the system crash when swapping motherboards.

>

> I could delete everyhting out of the device manager and then shut down,

that

> would eliminate most of the old values , wouldn't it ? before replacing

the

> MB .

>

> Thanks again

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

> "R. McCarty" wrote:

>

> > If you do a repair or In-Place install, one part of that is rebuilding

> > the device table ( enum ). If you just switch Mass Storage drivers

> > and swap ( and the machine boots ) it will add all the new devices

> > but leave the old hardware in the tables, as "Phantom" entries. To

> > clean up you have to add an environment variable and set it's value

> > to 1 so that "Plug-&-Play" phantom devices are shown. Normally

> > even with the DevMgr Show Hidden Devices toggled XP will not

> > show the Plug-&-Play phantoms.

> >

> > The effect varies depending on much the two motherboard chipset

> > components are different. Things like Northbridge/Southbridge sets

> > require different drivers but Via and Intel Chipset drivers are usually

> > composite drivers ( meaning they work for a wide range of chips ).

> > When you go to install chipset drivers they do a check and if they

> > aren't compatible/designed for your hardware will refuse to load.

> >

> > "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:0FD13781-87B3-4D61-BCC7-EAF324ED913C@microsoft.com...

> > > This is a second question I forgot to ask.

> > >

> > > I'm just swapping Mother Boards, so the hard drive stays the same.

> > >

> > > What are the less than desirable effects ?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > >

> > > "R. McCarty" wrote:

> > >

> > >> Not delete, but replace the vendor specific Mass Storage controller

> > >> driver with a "Generic" drive. Usually this is "Standard Dual PCI IDE

> > >> controller". Once the hardware swap is completed it's necessary to

> > >> reapply the correct Vendor driver. This is NOT a universal fix as it

> > >> has some less than desirable after effects. Also there can be issues

if

> > >> the original platform is PATA ( Parallel ATA ) and the destination PC

> > >> uses the newer SATA ( Serial ATA ).

> > >>

> > >> "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > >> news:9CFA6524-0F4F-4742-A71D-4487D209A493@microsoft.com...

> > >> >I am replacing my motherboard on my XP PRO machine.

> > >> > The last time I did this I got a Stop 0X000000 error and after much

> > >> > searching found the cause was the IDE controller being different.

> > >> >

> > >> > I had to reinstall XP from the CD and that wipes out all my updates

and

> > >> > some

> > >> > of my programs, including my anti-virus, causing me to have to

> > >> > reinstall,

> > >> > which is a big hassle and takes weeks to get everything back up and

> > >> > running

> > >> > again.

> > >> >

> > >> > I have heard a rumor that there are 2 files, that if deleted before

the

> > >> > motherboard is replaced, XP will detect the new IDE controller and

> > >> > rebuild

> > >> > these 2 files and I will not need to re-do all the windows updates

and

> > >> > will

> > >> > not have to reinstall all my software programs.

> > >> >

> > >> > Does anyone know what these 2 files are ? Is this true, or is

there

> > >> > another

> > >> > way to make this work ?

> > >> >

> > >> > Thanks for the help

> > >> >

> > >> > Bill

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> >

> >

> >

[Guest Bill Simard]

Re: Stop Error when replacing Motherboard, how to fix this

 

That's what I did last time I needed to replace a MB and it took weeks to get

everything back. Doing a repair erases tons of files and reg data that makes

almost all the programs no longer work.

 

No to mention that the updates number in the 100's for XP itself, then you

need to put back Java, Macromedia Player, etc..

 

It is a very, very long task. I have done it before, and if I can find a

way to not have to do it again I would be real happy.

 

Thanks

 

Bill

 

 

"3c273" wrote:

> I don't mean to sound rude, but according to the timestamps of your posts,

> you've been beating your head against the wall trying to bugger up an old

> installation of XP for at least 5 hours. In that amount of time, you

> could've installed XP and most, if not all, all of your programs. Then you'd

> just need to let automatic updates do its thing and you'd be done. Sorry I

> don't have a solution to your specific problem, but IMHO, I think you would

> be better off with a clean install.

> Louis

>

> "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:447C1D98-B012-445E-95D5-685FB5429B75@microsoft.com...

> > Where do I add this environment variable ?

> >

> > My biggest problem has been that it won't boot into XP. It trys, but then

> > gets the BSOD Stop error because the IDE controllers are different.

> >

> > If I can get it to not do that and actually get into windows then I should

> > be able to use safe mode to see those phantoms.

> >

> > I've seen them before using safe mode in ME and was able to remove them,

> but

> > ME did not cause the system crash when swapping motherboards.

> >

> > I could delete everyhting out of the device manager and then shut down,

> that

> > would eliminate most of the old values , wouldn't it ? before replacing

> the

> > MB .

> >

> > Thanks again

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > "R. McCarty" wrote:

> >

> > > If you do a repair or In-Place install, one part of that is rebuilding

> > > the device table ( enum ). If you just switch Mass Storage drivers

> > > and swap ( and the machine boots ) it will add all the new devices

> > > but leave the old hardware in the tables, as "Phantom" entries. To

> > > clean up you have to add an environment variable and set it's value

> > > to 1 so that "Plug-&-Play" phantom devices are shown. Normally

> > > even with the DevMgr Show Hidden Devices toggled XP will not

> > > show the Plug-&-Play phantoms.

> > >

> > > The effect varies depending on much the two motherboard chipset

> > > components are different. Things like Northbridge/Southbridge sets

> > > require different drivers but Via and Intel Chipset drivers are usually

> > > composite drivers ( meaning they work for a wide range of chips ).

> > > When you go to install chipset drivers they do a check and if they

> > > aren't compatible/designed for your hardware will refuse to load.

> > >

> > > "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:0FD13781-87B3-4D61-BCC7-EAF324ED913C@microsoft.com...

> > > > This is a second question I forgot to ask.

> > > >

> > > > I'm just swapping Mother Boards, so the hard drive stays the same.

> > > >

> > > > What are the less than desirable effects ?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "R. McCarty" wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> Not delete, but replace the vendor specific Mass Storage controller

> > > >> driver with a "Generic" drive. Usually this is "Standard Dual PCI IDE

> > > >> controller". Once the hardware swap is completed it's necessary to

> > > >> reapply the correct Vendor driver. This is NOT a universal fix as it

> > > >> has some less than desirable after effects. Also there can be issues

> if

> > > >> the original platform is PATA ( Parallel ATA ) and the destination PC

> > > >> uses the newer SATA ( Serial ATA ).

> > > >>

> > > >> "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > >> news:9CFA6524-0F4F-4742-A71D-4487D209A493@microsoft.com...

> > > >> >I am replacing my motherboard on my XP PRO machine.

> > > >> > The last time I did this I got a Stop 0X000000 error and after much

> > > >> > searching found the cause was the IDE controller being different.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I had to reinstall XP from the CD and that wipes out all my updates

> and

> > > >> > some

> > > >> > of my programs, including my anti-virus, causing me to have to

> > > >> > reinstall,

> > > >> > which is a big hassle and takes weeks to get everything back up and

> > > >> > running

> > > >> > again.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I have heard a rumor that there are 2 files, that if deleted before

> the

> > > >> > motherboard is replaced, XP will detect the new IDE controller and

> > > >> > rebuild

> > > >> > these 2 files and I will not need to re-do all the windows updates

> and

> > > >> > will

> > > >> > not have to reinstall all my software programs.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Does anyone know what these 2 files are ? Is this true, or is

> there

> > > >> > another

> > > >> > way to make this work ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Thanks for the help

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Bill

> > > >> >

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

[Guest 3c273]

Re: Stop Error when replacing Motherboard, how to fix this

 

If it takes weeks, you are doing it wrong. (Unless, of course, you are on

dialup.) SP1, SP3, plus a couple of updates that have been released since

SP3 are all you need for XP. At 10 minutes per install, you could have

installed 40 or 50 programs by now. I understand that sometimes we just need

to do things the hard way ;-) Good luck!

Louis

 

"Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:07BCAB33-EBFE-4E0E-A997-43CC639174DB@microsoft.com...

> That's what I did last time I needed to replace a MB and it took weeks to

get

> everything back. Doing a repair erases tons of files and reg data that

makes

> almost all the programs no longer work.

>

> No to mention that the updates number in the 100's for XP itself, then you

> need to put back Java, Macromedia Player, etc..

>

> It is a very, very long task. I have done it before, and if I can find a

> way to not have to do it again I would be real happy.

>

> Thanks

>

> Bill

>

>

> "3c273" wrote:

>

> > I don't mean to sound rude, but according to the timestamps of your

posts,

> > you've been beating your head against the wall trying to bugger up an

old

> > installation of XP for at least 5 hours. In that amount of time, you

> > could've installed XP and most, if not all, all of your programs. Then

you'd

> > just need to let automatic updates do its thing and you'd be done. Sorry

I

> > don't have a solution to your specific problem, but IMHO, I think you

would

> > be better off with a clean install.

> > Louis

> >

> > "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:447C1D98-B012-445E-95D5-685FB5429B75@microsoft.com...

> > > Where do I add this environment variable ?

> > >

> > > My biggest problem has been that it won't boot into XP. It trys, but

then

> > > gets the BSOD Stop error because the IDE controllers are different.

> > >

> > > If I can get it to not do that and actually get into windows then I

should

> > > be able to use safe mode to see those phantoms.

> > >

> > > I've seen them before using safe mode in ME and was able to remove

them,

> > but

> > > ME did not cause the system crash when swapping motherboards.

> > >

> > > I could delete everyhting out of the device manager and then shut

down,

> > that

> > > would eliminate most of the old values , wouldn't it ? before

replacing

> > the

> > > MB .

> > >

> > > Thanks again

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "R. McCarty" wrote:

> > >

> > > > If you do a repair or In-Place install, one part of that is

rebuilding

> > > > the device table ( enum ). If you just switch Mass Storage drivers

> > > > and swap ( and the machine boots ) it will add all the new devices

> > > > but leave the old hardware in the tables, as "Phantom" entries. To

> > > > clean up you have to add an environment variable and set it's value

> > > > to 1 so that "Plug-&-Play" phantom devices are shown. Normally

> > > > even with the DevMgr Show Hidden Devices toggled XP will not

> > > > show the Plug-&-Play phantoms.

> > > >

> > > > The effect varies depending on much the two motherboard chipset

> > > > components are different. Things like Northbridge/Southbridge sets

> > > > require different drivers but Via and Intel Chipset drivers are

usually

> > > > composite drivers ( meaning they work for a wide range of chips ).

> > > > When you go to install chipset drivers they do a check and if they

> > > > aren't compatible/designed for your hardware will refuse to load.

> > > >

> > > > "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message

> > > > news:0FD13781-87B3-4D61-BCC7-EAF324ED913C@microsoft.com...

> > > > > This is a second question I forgot to ask.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm just swapping Mother Boards, so the hard drive stays the same.

> > > > >

> > > > > What are the less than desirable effects ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > "R. McCarty" wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >> Not delete, but replace the vendor specific Mass Storage

controller

> > > > >> driver with a "Generic" drive. Usually this is "Standard Dual PCI

IDE

> > > > >> controller". Once the hardware swap is completed it's necessary

to

> > > > >> reapply the correct Vendor driver. This is NOT a universal fix as

it

> > > > >> has some less than desirable after effects. Also there can be

issues

> > if

> > > > >> the original platform is PATA ( Parallel ATA ) and the

destination PC

> > > > >> uses the newer SATA ( Serial ATA ).

> > > > >>

> > > > >> "Bill Simard" <BillSimard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message

> > > > >> news:9CFA6524-0F4F-4742-A71D-4487D209A493@microsoft.com...

> > > > >> >I am replacing my motherboard on my XP PRO machine.

> > > > >> > The last time I did this I got a Stop 0X000000 error and after

much

> > > > >> > searching found the cause was the IDE controller being

different.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > I had to reinstall XP from the CD and that wipes out all my

updates

> > and

> > > > >> > some

> > > > >> > of my programs, including my anti-virus, causing me to have to

> > > > >> > reinstall,

> > > > >> > which is a big hassle and takes weeks to get everything back up

and

> > > > >> > running

> > > > >> > again.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > I have heard a rumor that there are 2 files, that if deleted

before

> > the

> > > > >> > motherboard is replaced, XP will detect the new IDE controller

and

> > > > >> > rebuild

> > > > >> > these 2 files and I will not need to re-do all the windows

updates

> > and

> > > > >> > will

> > > > >> > not have to reinstall all my software programs.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Does anyone know what these 2 files are ? Is this true, or is

> > there

> > > > >> > another

> > > > >> > way to make this work ?

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Thanks for the help

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Bill

> > > > >> >

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

> >