WinXP --> Win98 Dial Up (direct)

June 14, 2008

Re: WinXP --> Win98 Dial Up (direct)

OK, this one I will respond to, after all. But you ARE a fraud. Anyone who

reads your diatribes at all critically can easily see so.

Comments inline.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:u%2314D1hzIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> No Gary, as usual, both you and Sunny have done the same stupid little

> things your little minds always do on USENET. Here you are hijacking a

> thread with mindless and stupid comments just so you have something to

> post.

I'll let Sunny defend himself if he feels you're worth it. I didn't hijach a

thread, I deliberately and matter-of-fctually commented on the link you

provided. Should I have started a new thread? I just figured that since I

KNOW you always have a pop-up blocker on you don't know what really goes on

in the internet world, and I didn't think you were SUCH a jerk as to allow

that kind of thing to go on, so I figured I'd tell you about it. Give you

some suggestions for alternative solutions.

But as it turns out, you're just a socially irresponsible FRAUD.

> YOU, Gary, started an attack just like YOU always do.

Your site is an insult to any "professional" who provides assistance to this

group. THAT is why I took offense and commented. I gave suggestions, you

took unwarranted offense when you could have instead admitted that I was

right and that you need to find a different host. You so much couldn't

defend yourself against what I charged that you descended into blithering

idiocy.

> YOU previously attempted to label any who disagree with YOU and your XP

> views as Luddites.

I don't have XP views you idiot, except to say that it does what I need to

do better than ANY other OS on the market, past or present, and so for

practical reasons, I use it. I most certainly wish there was a better OS out

there and I'm no more happy with the history of Microsoft's development of

Windows than you are.

No, what I have are Windows 98 views and they say that Win98 is dying a

rather quick death, now, that it is obsolete, that people who insist on

staying stuck in the past with Win98, ESPECIALLY when they do so by atacking

everything else more modern, in this case Windows XP and Vista, are

Luddites, which they are, by definition.

If you'd ever bothered to read what I post, you'd know that my argument is

based upon economics, not technicalities or comparative security, or

whatever else your pathologically obsessed mind wants to obsess about.

> YOU have repeatedly attacked parties merely posting in this group for no

> apparent reason other than you were having a bad day.

A couple of times, yes, and I admitted it. But just because I say what I

mean, out loud and withholding no punches, or even if I rant, that does NOT

mean it wasn't deserved. Plus, when I run into someone who deserves a

dressing down (or, more commonly a WAKING UP!), I take full advantage of the

cathartic opportunities presented.

> YOU have repeatedly attempted to bring me into this mindless stupidity of

> yours.

I haven't attempted to bring you into ANY conversation. All I had to do is

call some other idiot a Luddite and there you were to take offense. Nobody

invited you. And there's nothing mindlesss OR stupid about calling Windows

98 an obsolete system and its *enthusiasts* Luddites. Those are both true

facts, by definition.

> This is a help group guys, take your mentally ill activities elsewhere and

> seek some professional help. What you are receiving now apparently isn't

> working..

GFY.

> Moreover, once again you are still spouting the same mindless Microsoft

> adverti$ing crap you have spouted since you became a user... and still

> having run nothing but those Microsoft products...

Please point out where I "spout" such crap. I simply tell it like it is. You

are the one so wrapped up in your conspiracy theories and whining about

Microsoft that you can't even see straight enough to actually read what I

write in our conversations. And you are again LYING when you say that I've

never run any other OS than Windows. Why do you keep spouting these lies?

Oh, I know. Because you really don't KNOW a thing about me but you've run

out of arguments, so it's time to drag out the LIES.

> Like I said, take your meds, seek professional medical help, and try to

> actually provide a useful function on this planet.

Again, GFY. You have no idea what you're talking about. As usual.

Anyway, NOW maybe I will stop responding to your posts. I never get anything

but insane babbling in return, anyway.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:O75a0efzIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | Just like you to change the subject. What's the matter? Got no good

> answers

> | so you attack me instead? Like you always turn the discussion to your

> | favorite topic, SECURITY!!!, and make me the boogy man. You try it just

> | about every day. The answer will always be the same: Your side lost. The

> | security or lack thereof in Win98 is more and more meaningless and will

> | become more and more meaningless every day. It's like driving a Model-T

> on

> | the freeway. Stupid and crazy. (Not that there aren't plenty of stupid

> and

> | crazy people out there.)

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://grystmill.com

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:e8XnHlezIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > Alright Gary, you want the gloves off,, okay, I can handle that.

> | >

> | > So tell this group in your infinite wisdom why you are so friggin

> ignorant

> | > that you fail to understand how and why you block all this crap being

> | > shoved

> | > down the throats of the users on the Web... come on hot shot, explain

> WHY

> | > you think all of this is good,,,, tell us all about how YOU secure

> your

> | > systems.

> | >

> | > By the way, just what is it that you have done recently for the good

> of

> | > mankind... I'll wait for several years for you to dream up some kind

> of

> | > story.. what VALUE do you have to mankind, what's your purpose on this

> | > planet... I realize you have value to the dog world,, but hey, there's

> a

> | > lot

> | > of other animals out there...

> | >

> | > As for my site,, its ranked and indexed,, move it again [as was done

> | > because of the last idiots running that prior service] and all that's

> | > gone... so how's you site doing Gary? Want some more help with making

> your

> | > web pages???

> | >

> | > Hypocrite for security? Hardly. I happen to have directed to various

> | > security issues ON the site... and **repeatedly** IN this group. So

> when

> | > have you done that recently? Or is this dumb little tirade your vain

> | > attempt.

> | >

> | > Go take your pills Gary, and find Dan, I think you guys need to help

> each

> | > other...

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:%23JEm8KezIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:OodnLtdzIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | > | >

> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > news:eHRcd5ZzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | 1. I know they aren't yours, I said as much. But now it's clear

> that

> | > you

> | > | > | will willingly trade with your enemy in order to save a few

> bucks.

> | > | > Surely

> | > | > | you can find a free service with higher moral standards.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | 2. I don't know ahead of time which sites I go to use pop-ups.

> Some

> | > that

> | > | > I'm

> | > | > | accustomed to using change their procedures to using them. I so

> | > seldom

> | > | > have

> | > | > | problems with pop-ups that I simply turn them off for sites that

> | > can't

> | > | > stop

> | > | > | after one. Or remember to never go there again. Even the major

> | > | > commercial

> | > | > | sites that use them for simple advertising, don't make them of

> the

> | > | > "can't

> | > | > | close", endless pop-ups variety. Those types are reserved to the

> | > ninth

> | > | > | circle of hell.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | In any case, for those of us who think YOU are responsible for

> | > whatever

> | > | > | tries to get into our computers when we go to YOUR site, I

> thought

> | > the

> | > | > | warning was warranted.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | --

> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | http://grystmill.com

> | > | > |

> | > | >

> | > | > Well, then you haven't been party to any of the discussions with

> the

> | > | > service

> | > | > operators, have you... gees I even posted indication of this

> several

> | > times

> | > | > in this group..

> | > |

> | > | What's that, some excuse? Do you think I read every word you post?

> What

> | > do

> | > | you say, "Beware of my site, it has nasty stuff." You certainly

> don't

> | > put

> | > | that disclaimer on every one of your posts (which all have at least

> one

> | > link

> | > | to your site.)

> | > |

> | > | And who are these "service operators"? If you're hinting at some

> | > fine-print

> | > | weasel out... I'm talking about YOU, Maurice, the self-annointed

> Pope

> of

> | > | security in this group. You don't feel just a little bit icky

> trading

> | > your

> | > | soul and selling your your site to purveyors of such objectionable

> crap,

> | > | crap that's totally rare outside the sex sites these days? I know,

> | > because

> | > I

> | > | leave my pop-up blocker off an go to all kinds of free sites,

> drivers

> | > | downloads, etc. I even click on the sex links every once in a while

> to

> | > see

> | > | what they're up to. The one I got at your site today is one I

> haven't

> | > seen

> | > | in a couple of years. Probably because it turned out not to get

> positive

> | > | results.

> | > |

> | > | > Just as YOU want everything, right now, and don't care how you get

> it,

> | > so

> | > | > do the operators of that service... I find it quite amusing that

> you

> | > | > continue to subject yourself to tracking cookies, popups, and

> other

> | > junk

> | > | > which can easily be blocked by one who bothers to look for methods

> to

> | > do

> | > | > so,

> | > | > particularly as you are an MVP for the Windows OSs.

> | > |

> | > | You haven't the slightest idea what I do to protect myself. I'm

> | > perfectly

> | > | well protected from anything getting into my machine that will cause

> me

> | > any

> | > | problems. Additionally, I keep TOTAL control of cookies, and I've

> | > already

> | > | explained that contrary to your opinion, I find pop-ups to be

> | > indispensible

> | > | in a lot of places I go, and I HATE whitelists. I also don't have

> much

> | > good

> | > | to say for anyone who lumps all this stuff together as BAD when in

> many

> | > if

> | > | not most cases outside the sex sites it works like it was intended

> to.

> | > |

> | > | > As for where else to put my site, seems most people are just like

> you

> | > | > apparently are, when confronted with a pro bono site for which I

> have

> | > no

> | > | > more intention to supply cost out of my own pocket, they feel they

> | > should

> | > | > make some type of money from it. I thought the materials relevant

> | > enough

> | > | > to

> | > | > put it in the public rather than as the limited VPN it was for

> years.

> | > Not

> | > | > that many people actually appreciate the site, since it deals with

> | > reality

> | > | > rather than daily junk, mindless ramblings, and misdirections

> based

> | > | > largely

> | > | > upon the thin air that seems to be what the

> video/TV/gaming/scripted

> | > | > unreality public presently desires and gets lost in Seems the

> | > students

> | > | > find

> | > | > some of the materials useful, and the materials were used for

> awhile

> | > in

> | > | > various courses offered, but then that would make them potentially

> as

> | > the

> | > | > apparently hated intellectuals in America.

> | > | >

> | > | > Soooo, if you want to stop the operators from doing what they are,

> why

> | > not

> | > | > drop them an email or two explaining your position on their

> service.

> | > There

> | > | > is a contact address for them on the main orgfree service page.

> | > |

> | > | Those last two paragraphs are unintelligible. Care to try again?

> You're

> | > | saying that *I* want to make money from your site? That I make money

> | > from

> | > | mine? What? And who cares who goes to your site and why? When you

> send

> | > | people there from here, where you have a certain reputation, posting

> | > CERTs,

> | > | trying to get me any way you can to discuss comparative OSes

> especially

> | > with

> | > | regard to security (when it's obvious that I couldn't care less),

> one

> | > would

> | > | not expect the site to be so sleazy. If *I* were seriously

> interested

> in

> | > | your writings (and I have read at least some of your stuff), I would

> | > | certainly be offput by the crap invasion and would have second and

> third

> | > | thoughts as to your seriousness and dedication to your declared

> values.

> | > |

> | > | Anyway, as I said, my primary point was to WARN PEOPLE THAT MEB's

> SITE

> | > IS

> | > | FULL OF INVASIVE CRAPWARE. That MEB is such a weasel that he can

> only

> | > say

> | > | that it's not HIS site but his HOST's site that is doing the nasty,

> that

> | > he

> | > | has no control over that situation. Think about the logic in that

> last

> | > | sentence and then ask yourself, "Just who is this MEB dude, really?"

> | > |

> | > | I've already answered that one, posted those answers a few times,

> and

> | > I've

> | > | yet to see you prove me wrong. In fact, just the opposite, you

> continue

> | > to

> | > | amaze me with your hypocrisies.

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | http://grystmill.com

> | > |

> | > | >

> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | news:%23c5XbuZzIHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > DUHHHH, those aren't MY popups.... those come from the *free*

> | > service.

> | > | > | > Might

> | > | > | > try only enabling popups from sites you actually want them

> from...

> | > do

> | > | > you

> | > | > | > need some help configuring that, or do you think you can find

> that

> | > | > | > information. Google would be your friend for this, do you know

> how

> | > to

> | > | > use

> | > | > | > Google?

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > IF you need help, start a new discussion and I'll walk you

> through

> | > the

> | > | > | > techniques and changes necessary...

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > | > news:%23nTzTfZzIHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | Those advertising pop-ups on your site suck big time. And,

> yes,

> | > I

> | > | > know

> | > | > | > how

> | > | > | > | to block pop-ups, but then I have to turn the blocker off

> for

> | > when

> | > I

> | > | > | > need

> | > | > | > | pop-ups, which is regularly. Fact is, my normal surfing

> these

> | > days

> | > | > is

> | > | > | > fairly

> | > | > | > | popup-free except for the necessary ones. But your pop-ups

> are

> | > | > | > particularly

> | > | > | > | insidious. If you haven't actually experienced them, I

> suggest

> | > you

> | > | > check

> | > | > | > | them out.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | For someone so concerned about internet intrusions, you sure

> | > have

> | > a

> | > | > | > | hypocritical attitude about the advertising you use.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | For those of you caught in Maurice's pop-up problem,

> right-click

> | > the

> | > | > | > button

> | > | > | > | on the taskbar and close. Anything else will just lead to

> more

> | > crap.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | And, Maurice, if the advertising is coming from orgfree.com,

> | > then

> | > I

> | > | > | > suggest

> | > | > | > | that there are some quite inexpensive alternatives that

> include

> | > your

> | > | > own

> | > | > | > | full domain name, etc. I pay ~$10/month for mine, but I

> could

> | > get

> | > it

> | > | > for

> | > | > | > a

> | > | > | > | LOT less if I were in the mood to switch. (here, for

> instance

> | > | > | > | http://hosting.aplus.net/) I am secure in the knowledge that

> I

> | > am

> | > in

> | > | > | > total

> | > | > | > | control of the content my can visitors receive (though, of

> | > course,

> | > | > | > whether

> | > | > | > | they want to see the content or not is up to them.) One

> thing

> I

> | > | > | > *certainly*

> | > | > | > | wouldn't countenance is that crap on your site.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | --

> | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | > | http://grystmill.com

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | > | news:uhaQ6MZzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > After searching around for DUN/VPN server issues, I

> thought

> | > maybe

> | > | > a

> | > | > | > web

> | > | > | > | > page might be in order.

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | >

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/dun_vpn_diag.htm

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | >

> | > | > |

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> |

>

June 14, 2008

Re: WinXP --> Win98 Dial Up (direct)

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:u%2314D1hzIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| No Gary, as usual, both you and Sunny have done the same stupid little

| things your little minds always do on USENET. Here you are hijacking a

| thread with mindless and stupid comments just so you have something to

post.

<snip>

Your inflated ego is self evident.

June 14, 2008

Re: WinXP --> Win98 Dial Up (direct)

Hey, MEB. You're so knowledgeable about security problems and the

vulnerabilities in Windows XP, how about you break into my computer. Go

ahead, I dare you. Get into any of my computers and steal some info that

could only come from here. Heck, you can even set up a website full of crap

and I'll go there, with no special protections in place other than my

standard ones.

Steal something from me, Maurice. If you can't do that, and PROVE it without

any help from me, you're a fraud, plain and simple.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:u%2314D1hzIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> No Gary, as usual, both you and Sunny have done the same stupid little

> things your little minds always do on USENET. Here you are hijacking a

> thread with mindless and stupid comments just so you have something to

> post.

>

> YOU, Gary, started an attack just like YOU always do.

> YOU previously attempted to label any who disagree with YOU and your XP

> views as Luddites.

> YOU have repeatedly attacked parties merely posting in this group for no

> apparent reason other than you were having a bad day.

> YOU have repeatedly attempted to bring me into this mindless stupidity of

> yours.

> This is a help group guys, take your mentally ill activities elsewhere and

> seek some professional help. What you are receiving now apparently isn't

> working..

>

> Moreover, once again you are still spouting the same mindless Microsoft

> adverti$ing crap you have spouted since you became a user... and still

> having run nothing but those Microsoft products...

>

> Like I said, take your meds, seek professional medical help, and try to

> actually provide a useful function on this planet.

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:O75a0efzIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | Just like you to change the subject. What's the matter? Got no good

> answers

> | so you attack me instead? Like you always turn the discussion to your

> | favorite topic, SECURITY!!!, and make me the boogy man. You try it just

> | about every day. The answer will always be the same: Your side lost. The

> | security or lack thereof in Win98 is more and more meaningless and will

> | become more and more meaningless every day. It's like driving a Model-T

> on

> | the freeway. Stupid and crazy. (Not that there aren't plenty of stupid

> and

> | crazy people out there.)

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://grystmill.com

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:e8XnHlezIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > Alright Gary, you want the gloves off,, okay, I can handle that.

> | >

> | > So tell this group in your infinite wisdom why you are so friggin

> ignorant

> | > that you fail to understand how and why you block all this crap being

> | > shoved

> | > down the throats of the users on the Web... come on hot shot, explain

> WHY

> | > you think all of this is good,,,, tell us all about how YOU secure

> your

> | > systems.

> | >

> | > By the way, just what is it that you have done recently for the good

> of

> | > mankind... I'll wait for several years for you to dream up some kind

> of

> | > story.. what VALUE do you have to mankind, what's your purpose on this

> | > planet... I realize you have value to the dog world,, but hey, there's

> a

> | > lot

> | > of other animals out there...

> | >

> | > As for my site,, its ranked and indexed,, move it again [as was done

> | > because of the last idiots running that prior service] and all that's

> | > gone... so how's you site doing Gary? Want some more help with making

> your

> | > web pages???

> | >

> | > Hypocrite for security? Hardly. I happen to have directed to various

> | > security issues ON the site... and **repeatedly** IN this group. So

> when

> | > have you done that recently? Or is this dumb little tirade your vain

> | > attempt.

> | >

> | > Go take your pills Gary, and find Dan, I think you guys need to help

> each

> | > other...

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:%23JEm8KezIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:OodnLtdzIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | > | >

> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > news:eHRcd5ZzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | 1. I know they aren't yours, I said as much. But now it's clear

> that

> | > you

> | > | > | will willingly trade with your enemy in order to save a few

> bucks.

> | > | > Surely

> | > | > | you can find a free service with higher moral standards.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | 2. I don't know ahead of time which sites I go to use pop-ups.

> Some

> | > that

> | > | > I'm

> | > | > | accustomed to using change their procedures to using them. I so

> | > seldom

> | > | > have

> | > | > | problems with pop-ups that I simply turn them off for sites that

> | > can't

> | > | > stop

> | > | > | after one. Or remember to never go there again. Even the major

> | > | > commercial

> | > | > | sites that use them for simple advertising, don't make them of

> the

> | > | > "can't

> | > | > | close", endless pop-ups variety. Those types are reserved to the

> | > ninth

> | > | > | circle of hell.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | In any case, for those of us who think YOU are responsible for

> | > whatever

> | > | > | tries to get into our computers when we go to YOUR site, I

> thought

> | > the

> | > | > | warning was warranted.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | --

> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | http://grystmill.com

> | > | > |

> | > | >

> | > | > Well, then you haven't been party to any of the discussions with

> the

> | > | > service

> | > | > operators, have you... gees I even posted indication of this

> several

> | > times

> | > | > in this group..

> | > |

> | > | What's that, some excuse? Do you think I read every word you post?

> What

> | > do

> | > | you say, "Beware of my site, it has nasty stuff." You certainly

> don't

> | > put

> | > | that disclaimer on every one of your posts (which all have at least

> one

> | > link

> | > | to your site.)

> | > |

> | > | And who are these "service operators"? If you're hinting at some

> | > fine-print

> | > | weasel out... I'm talking about YOU, Maurice, the self-annointed

> Pope

> of

> | > | security in this group. You don't feel just a little bit icky

> trading

> | > your

> | > | soul and selling your your site to purveyors of such objectionable

> crap,

> | > | crap that's totally rare outside the sex sites these days? I know,

> | > because

> | > I

> | > | leave my pop-up blocker off an go to all kinds of free sites,

> drivers

> | > | downloads, etc. I even click on the sex links every once in a while

> to

> | > see

> | > | what they're up to. The one I got at your site today is one I

> haven't

> | > seen

> | > | in a couple of years. Probably because it turned out not to get

> positive

> | > | results.

> | > |

> | > | > Just as YOU want everything, right now, and don't care how you get

> it,

> | > so

> | > | > do the operators of that service... I find it quite amusing that

> you

> | > | > continue to subject yourself to tracking cookies, popups, and

> other

> | > junk

> | > | > which can easily be blocked by one who bothers to look for methods

> to

> | > do

> | > | > so,

> | > | > particularly as you are an MVP for the Windows OSs.

> | > |

> | > | You haven't the slightest idea what I do to protect myself. I'm

> | > perfectly

> | > | well protected from anything getting into my machine that will cause

> me

> | > any

> | > | problems. Additionally, I keep TOTAL control of cookies, and I've

> | > already

> | > | explained that contrary to your opinion, I find pop-ups to be

> | > indispensible

> | > | in a lot of places I go, and I HATE whitelists. I also don't have

> much

> | > good

> | > | to say for anyone who lumps all this stuff together as BAD when in

> many

> | > if

> | > | not most cases outside the sex sites it works like it was intended

> to.

> | > |

> | > | > As for where else to put my site, seems most people are just like

> you

> | > | > apparently are, when confronted with a pro bono site for which I

> have

> | > no

> | > | > more intention to supply cost out of my own pocket, they feel they

> | > should

> | > | > make some type of money from it. I thought the materials relevant

> | > enough

> | > | > to

> | > | > put it in the public rather than as the limited VPN it was for

> years.

> | > Not

> | > | > that many people actually appreciate the site, since it deals with

> | > reality

> | > | > rather than daily junk, mindless ramblings, and misdirections

> based

> | > | > largely

> | > | > upon the thin air that seems to be what the

> video/TV/gaming/scripted

> | > | > unreality public presently desires and gets lost in Seems the

> | > students

> | > | > find

> | > | > some of the materials useful, and the materials were used for

> awhile

> | > in

> | > | > various courses offered, but then that would make them potentially

> as

> | > the

> | > | > apparently hated intellectuals in America.

> | > | >

> | > | > Soooo, if you want to stop the operators from doing what they are,

> why

> | > not

> | > | > drop them an email or two explaining your position on their

> service.

> | > There

> | > | > is a contact address for them on the main orgfree service page.

> | > |

> | > | Those last two paragraphs are unintelligible. Care to try again?

> You're

> | > | saying that *I* want to make money from your site? That I make money

> | > from

> | > | mine? What? And who cares who goes to your site and why? When you

> send

> | > | people there from here, where you have a certain reputation, posting

> | > CERTs,

> | > | trying to get me any way you can to discuss comparative OSes

> especially

> | > with

> | > | regard to security (when it's obvious that I couldn't care less),

> one

> | > would

> | > | not expect the site to be so sleazy. If *I* were seriously

> interested

> in

> | > | your writings (and I have read at least some of your stuff), I would

> | > | certainly be offput by the crap invasion and would have second and

> third

> | > | thoughts as to your seriousness and dedication to your declared

> values.

> | > |

> | > | Anyway, as I said, my primary point was to WARN PEOPLE THAT MEB's

> SITE

> | > IS

> | > | FULL OF INVASIVE CRAPWARE. That MEB is such a weasel that he can

> only

> | > say

> | > | that it's not HIS site but his HOST's site that is doing the nasty,

> that

> | > he

> | > | has no control over that situation. Think about the logic in that

> last

> | > | sentence and then ask yourself, "Just who is this MEB dude, really?"

> | > |

> | > | I've already answered that one, posted those answers a few times,

> and

> | > I've

> | > | yet to see you prove me wrong. In fact, just the opposite, you

> continue

> | > to

> | > | amaze me with your hypocrisies.

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | http://grystmill.com

> | > |

> | > | >

> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | news:%23c5XbuZzIHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > DUHHHH, those aren't MY popups.... those come from the *free*

> | > service.

> | > | > | > Might

> | > | > | > try only enabling popups from sites you actually want them

> from...

> | > do

> | > | > you

> | > | > | > need some help configuring that, or do you think you can find

> that

> | > | > | > information. Google would be your friend for this, do you know

> how

> | > to

> | > | > use

> | > | > | > Google?

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > IF you need help, start a new discussion and I'll walk you

> through

> | > the

> | > | > | > techniques and changes necessary...

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > | > news:%23nTzTfZzIHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | Those advertising pop-ups on your site suck big time. And,

> yes,

> | > I

> | > | > know

> | > | > | > how

> | > | > | > | to block pop-ups, but then I have to turn the blocker off

> for

> | > when

> | > I

> | > | > | > need

> | > | > | > | pop-ups, which is regularly. Fact is, my normal surfing

> these

> | > days

> | > | > is

> | > | > | > fairly

> | > | > | > | popup-free except for the necessary ones. But your pop-ups

> are

> | > | > | > particularly

> | > | > | > | insidious. If you haven't actually experienced them, I

> suggest

> | > you

> | > | > check

> | > | > | > | them out.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | For someone so concerned about internet intrusions, you sure

> | > have

> | > a

> | > | > | > | hypocritical attitude about the advertising you use.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | For those of you caught in Maurice's pop-up problem,

> right-click

> | > the

> | > | > | > button

> | > | > | > | on the taskbar and close. Anything else will just lead to

> more

> | > crap.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | And, Maurice, if the advertising is coming from orgfree.com,

> | > then

> | > I

> | > | > | > suggest

> | > | > | > | that there are some quite inexpensive alternatives that

> include

> | > your

> | > | > own

> | > | > | > | full domain name, etc. I pay ~$10/month for mine, but I

> could

> | > get

> | > it

> | > | > for

> | > | > | > a

> | > | > | > | LOT less if I were in the mood to switch. (here, for

> instance

> | > | > | > | http://hosting.aplus.net/) I am secure in the knowledge that

> I

> | > am

> | > in

> | > | > | > total

> | > | > | > | control of the content my can visitors receive (though, of

> | > course,

> | > | > | > whether

> | > | > | > | they want to see the content or not is up to them.) One

> thing

> I

> | > | > | > *certainly*

> | > | > | > | wouldn't countenance is that crap on your site.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | --

> | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | > | http://grystmill.com

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | > | news:uhaQ6MZzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > After searching around for DUN/VPN server issues, I

> thought

> | > maybe

> | > | > a

> | > | > | > web

> | > | > | > | > page might be in order.

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | >

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/dun_vpn_diag.htm

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | >

> | > | > |

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> |

>

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