Computer shutting down automatically

[Guest Jason]

My computer shuts down automatically. I think the problem is due to low disk

space. My disk space is in the range of 0-4 GB. If I free disk space by

either removing or backing up files will this resolve my issue? At this

point I've had my computer for about five years. I realize that most

computers have a limited life. I would hope if I freed up the disk space the

computer would go back to working properly.

 

I appreciate any advice.

[Guest Lisa]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

If low disk space is the problem then yes, that should fix it. The biggest

offenders for disk space are unused programs, pictures, video, and music.

 

"Jason" <Jason@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:92D340EC-A73C-4809-A171-E396E9739776@microsoft.com...

> My computer shuts down automatically. I think the problem is due to low

> disk

> space. My disk space is in the range of 0-4 GB. If I free disk space by

> either removing or backing up files will this resolve my issue? At this

> point I've had my computer for about five years. I realize that most

> computers have a limited life. I would hope if I freed up the disk space

> the

> computer would go back to working properly.

>

> I appreciate any advice.

>

>

[Guest PD43]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

Jason <Jason@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>My computer shuts down automatically. I think the problem is due to low disk

>space. My disk space is in the range of 0-4 GB. If I free disk space by

>either removing or backing up files will this resolve my issue?

 

Only one way to find out!

>At this

>point I've had my computer for about five years. I realize that most

>computers have a limited life. I would hope if I freed up the disk space the

>computer would go back to working properly.

>

>I appreciate any advice.

>

Hard drives are CHEAP these days and have tons of space compared to a

five-year-old drive. All you would have to do is clone your existing

drive to the new one.

 

You could even keep the old drive in the system and use it for storing

data or backups.

[Guest Gerry]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

Jason

 

If the system shuts down does it restart automatically?

 

Change this setting. Disable automatic restart on system failure. This

should help by allowing time to write down the STOP code properly. Right

click on the My Computer icon on the Desktop and select Properties,

Advanced, Start-Up and Recovery, System Failure and uncheck box before

Automatically Restart.

 

Do not re-enable automatic restart on system failure even when you have

resolved the problem. Watch for variants of the Stop Error message.

 

I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report. Open Disk

Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and

click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents

Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it

is more informative.

 

These questions are asked to get background information not because I

think you might need to run Disk Defragmenter!

 

--

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

Gerry

~~~~

FCA

Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

 

Jason wrote:

> My computer shuts down automatically. I think the problem is due to

> low disk space. My disk space is in the range of 0-4 GB. If I free

> disk space by either removing or backing up files will this resolve

> my issue? At this point I've had my computer for about five years.

> I realize that most computers have a limited life. I would hope if I

> freed up the disk space the computer would go back to working

> properly.

>

> I appreciate any advice.

[Guest PD43]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>Jason

>

>If the system shuts down does it restart automatically?

>

>Change this setting. Disable automatic restart on system failure. This

>should help by allowing time to write down the STOP code properly. Right

>click on the My Computer icon on the Desktop and select Properties,

>Advanced, Start-Up and Recovery, System Failure and uncheck box before

>Automatically Restart.

>

>Do not re-enable automatic restart on system failure even when you have

>resolved the problem. Watch for variants of the Stop Error message.

>

>I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report. Open Disk

>Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and

>click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents

>Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it

>is more informative.

>

>These questions are asked to get background information not because I

>think you might need to run Disk Defragmenter!

 

1) I've never seen a fragmented disk cause unexpected shutdowns.

Never.

 

2) The OP clearly indicated that there was only 0-4GB of disk space

left. Not much room for running a defragger.

[Guest Gerry]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

PD43

 

Without further information from Jason I cannot see what throw away

comments contribute towards resolving his problem or problems. In this

kind of situation he could have any number of problems.

 

--

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

Gerry

~~~~

FCA

Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

PD43 wrote:

> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>

>> Jason

>>

>> If the system shuts down does it restart automatically?

>>

>> Change this setting. Disable automatic restart on system failure.

>> This should help by allowing time to write down the STOP code

>> properly. Right click on the My Computer icon on the Desktop and

>> select Properties, Advanced, Start-Up and Recovery, System Failure

>> and uncheck box before Automatically Restart.

>>

>> Do not re-enable automatic restart on system failure even when you

>> have resolved the problem. Watch for variants of the Stop Error

>> message.

>>

>> I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report. Open

>> Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and

>> click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents

>> Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as

>> it is more informative.

>>

>> These questions are asked to get background information not because I

>> think you might need to run Disk Defragmenter!

>

> 1) I've never seen a fragmented disk cause unexpected shutdowns.

> Never.

>

> 2) The OP clearly indicated that there was only 0-4GB of disk space

> left. Not much room for running a defragger.

[Guest PD43]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>PD43

>

>Without further information from Jason I cannot see what throw away

>comments contribute towards resolving his problem or problems. In this

>kind of situation he could have any number of problems.

 

ONE of them won't be disk fragmentation. You copied and pasted the

wrong paragraphs into that reply.

[Guest Gerry]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

No PD43!

 

We have been through that one previously. The request for a Disk

Defragmenter Report is an information gathering exercise.

 

After we had our last exchange I added a small paragraph to make this

point clear to all. "These questions are asked to get background

information not because I think you might need to run Disk

Defragmenter!"

 

Do I need a sledge hammer to drive the point home so that it fixes into

your memory and comprehension?

 

--

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

Gerry

~~~~

FCA

Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

 

PD43 wrote:

> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>

>> PD43

>>

>> Without further information from Jason I cannot see what throw away

>> comments contribute towards resolving his problem or problems. In

>> this kind of situation he could have any number of problems.

>

> ONE of them won't be disk fragmentation. You copied and pasted the

> wrong paragraphs into that reply.

[Guest PD43]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>No PD43!

>

>We have been through that one previously. The request for a Disk

>Defragmenter Report is an information gathering exercise.

 

If it's an exercise that has the OP doing things he/she does NOT need

to do to fix the problem - as this case clearly demonstrates - then

it's not only a waste of the OP's time, it also serves to make it

appear as if such information is important to the fix.

>After we had our last exchange I added a small paragraph to make this

>point clear to all. "These questions are asked to get background

>information not because I think you might need to run Disk

>Defragmenter!"

 

Perhaps you should stop using what we on this continent call a

"scattergun" approach, and focus a tad more specifically.

 

Frame your cookie-cutter reply material so that you can easily refrain

from adding non-essential material to your request for info if such

info doesn't apply to the fix.

>Do I need a sledge hammer to drive the point home so that it fixes into

>your memory and comprehension?

 

MY point is clearly stated in the first paragraph in this reply. Do I

need a sledge hammer to drive the point home so that it fixes into

your memory and comprehension?

[Guest Doug]

RE: Computer shutting down automatically

 

Does the PC shutdown, or just swicth off suddenly?

I've just had a PC that would switch off suddenly due to CPU overheating.

 

Switch on and go into SETUP or BIOS. Check all the options to see if CPU

temperature is shown. In my case it was in the PC Health section.

 

I watched this setting, if it gets over 60 degrees you may have a problem.

Mine switched off at 90 degrees.

I removed the CPU fan and cleaned all the junk off the heat sink and that

fixed the problem.

--

Doug

 

 

"Jason" wrote:

> My computer shuts down automatically. I think the problem is due to low disk

> space. My disk space is in the range of 0-4 GB. If I free disk space by

> either removing or backing up files will this resolve my issue? At this

> point I've had my computer for about five years. I realize that most

> computers have a limited life. I would hope if I freed up the disk space the

> computer would go back to working properly.

>

> I appreciate any advice.

>

>

[Guest Jason]

RE: Computer shutting down automatically

 

Thank you for all of your responses. Now if only my computer will stay on

long enough to try all the remedies!

 

Jason

 

"Doug" wrote:

> Does the PC shutdown, or just swicth off suddenly?

> I've just had a PC that would switch off suddenly due to CPU overheating.

>

> Switch on and go into SETUP or BIOS. Check all the options to see if CPU

> temperature is shown. In my case it was in the PC Health section.

>

> I watched this setting, if it gets over 60 degrees you may have a problem.

> Mine switched off at 90 degrees.

> I removed the CPU fan and cleaned all the junk off the heat sink and that

> fixed the problem.

> --

> Doug

>

>

> "Jason" wrote:

>

> > My computer shuts down automatically. I think the problem is due to low disk

> > space. My disk space is in the range of 0-4 GB. If I free disk space by

> > either removing or backing up files will this resolve my issue? At this

> > point I've had my computer for about five years. I realize that most

> > computers have a limited life. I would hope if I freed up the disk space the

> > computer would go back to working properly.

> >

> > I appreciate any advice.

> >

> >

[Guest Gerry]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

PD43

 

So how did your diagnostic technique lead you to determine that

replacing the hard drive was the solution to Jason's problem?

 

 

 

~~~~

 

 

Gerry

~~~~

FCA

Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

 

PD43 wrote:

> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>

>> No PD43!

>>

>> We have been through that one previously. The request for a Disk

>> Defragmenter Report is an information gathering exercise.

>

> If it's an exercise that has the OP doing things he/she does NOT need

> to do to fix the problem - as this case clearly demonstrates - then

> it's not only a waste of the OP's time, it also serves to make it

> appear as if such information is important to the fix.

>

>> After we had our last exchange I added a small paragraph to make this

>> point clear to all. "These questions are asked to get background

>> information not because I think you might need to run Disk

>> Defragmenter!"

>

> Perhaps you should stop using what we on this continent call a

> "scattergun" approach, and focus a tad more specifically.

>

> Frame your cookie-cutter reply material so that you can easily refrain

> from adding non-essential material to your request for info if such

> info doesn't apply to the fix.

>

>> Do I need a sledge hammer to drive the point home so that it fixes

>> into your memory and comprehension?

>

> MY point is clearly stated in the first paragraph in this reply. Do I

> need a sledge hammer to drive the point home so that it fixes into

> your memory and comprehension?

[Guest PD43]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>PD43

>

>So how did your diagnostic technique lead you to determine that

>replacing the hard drive was the solution to Jason's problem?

 

It's clear that you're mind is muddled. Have a little more coffee in

the morning before you start prancing around the groups disguised as a

sage.

 

Read the entire post. You'll see that I was telling him what would

help his extreme lack of disk space. Period.

 

>~~~~

>

>

>Gerry

>~~~~

>FCA

>Stourport, England

>Enquire, plan and execute

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>PD43 wrote:

>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>>

>>> No PD43!

>>>

>>> We have been through that one previously. The request for a Disk

>>> Defragmenter Report is an information gathering exercise.

>>

>> If it's an exercise that has the OP doing things he/she does NOT need

>> to do to fix the problem - as this case clearly demonstrates - then

>> it's not only a waste of the OP's time, it also serves to make it

>> appear as if such information is important to the fix.

>>

>>> After we had our last exchange I added a small paragraph to make this

>>> point clear to all. "These questions are asked to get background

>>> information not because I think you might need to run Disk

>>> Defragmenter!"

>>

>> Perhaps you should stop using what we on this continent call a

>> "scattergun" approach, and focus a tad more specifically.

>>

>> Frame your cookie-cutter reply material so that you can easily refrain

>> from adding non-essential material to your request for info if such

>> info doesn't apply to the fix.

>>

>>> Do I need a sledge hammer to drive the point home so that it fixes

>>> into your memory and comprehension?

>>

>> MY point is clearly stated in the first paragraph in this reply. Do I

>> need a sledge hammer to drive the point home so that it fixes into

>> your memory and comprehension?

>

[Guest Gerry]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

PD43

 

Jason's complaint was that the the computer was shutting down

automatically. As a supplement he was asking whether the problem might

be related to insufficient free disk space. It would seem that like

myself you do not know the answer.

 

Spending money on a new hard drive hardly seems sensible when you have

no idea what is causing the computer to shut down! It's just throwing

money at the the problem with no certain expectation that it will work.

If you thought the hard drive was the problem a more sensible approach

would be to test the hard drive. If you think the lack of free disk

space is the problem you test your proposition by creating more free

disk space and seeing if the problem goes away.

 

Not everyone has the deep pockets you have!

 

 

~~~~

 

 

Gerry

~~~~

FCA

Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

 

PD43 wrote:

> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>

>> PD43

>>

>> So how did your diagnostic technique lead you to determine that

>> replacing the hard drive was the solution to Jason's problem?

>

> It's clear that you're mind is muddled. Have a little more coffee in

> the morning before you start prancing around the groups disguised as a

> sage.

>

> Read the entire post. You'll see that I was telling him what would

> help his extreme lack of disk space. Period.

>

>

>> ~~~~

>>

>>

>> Gerry

>> ~~~~

>> FCA

>> Stourport, England

>> Enquire, plan and execute

>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>

>>

>> PD43 wrote:

>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> No PD43!

>>>>

>>>> We have been through that one previously. The request for a Disk

>>>> Defragmenter Report is an information gathering exercise.

>>>

>>> If it's an exercise that has the OP doing things he/she does NOT

>>> need to do to fix the problem - as this case clearly demonstrates -

>>> then it's not only a waste of the OP's time, it also serves to make

>>> it appear as if such information is important to the fix.

>>>

>>>> After we had our last exchange I added a small paragraph to make

>>>> this point clear to all. "These questions are asked to get

>>>> background information not because I think you might need to run

>>>> Disk Defragmenter!"

>>>

>>> Perhaps you should stop using what we on this continent call a

>>> "scattergun" approach, and focus a tad more specifically.

>>>

>>> Frame your cookie-cutter reply material so that you can easily

>>> refrain from adding non-essential material to your request for info

>>> if such info doesn't apply to the fix.

>>>

>>>> Do I need a sledge hammer to drive the point home so that it fixes

>>>> into your memory and comprehension?

>>>

>>> MY point is clearly stated in the first paragraph in this reply. Do

>>> I need a sledge hammer to drive the point home so that it fixes into

>>> your memory and comprehension?

[Guest Gerry]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

Jason

 

It sounds like a hardware problem. It could be a failing power supply

unit. I would take the computer to a small computer repair shop.

 

--

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

Gerry

~~~~

FCA

Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Jason wrote:

> Thank you for all of your responses. Now if only my computer will

> stay on long enough to try all the remedies!

>

> Jason

>

> "Doug" wrote:

>

>> Does the PC shutdown, or just swicth off suddenly?

>> I've just had a PC that would switch off suddenly due to CPU

>> overheating.

>>

>> Switch on and go into SETUP or BIOS. Check all the options to see

>> if CPU temperature is shown. In my case it was in the PC Health

>> section.

>>

>> I watched this setting, if it gets over 60 degrees you may have a

>> problem. Mine switched off at 90 degrees.

>> I removed the CPU fan and cleaned all the junk off the heat sink and

>> that fixed the problem.

>> --

>> Doug

>>

>>

>> "Jason" wrote:

>>

>>> My computer shuts down automatically. I think the problem is due

>>> to low disk space. My disk space is in the range of 0-4 GB. If I

>>> free disk space by either removing or backing up files will this

>>> resolve my issue? At this point I've had my computer for about

>>> five years. I realize that most computers have a limited life. I

>>> would hope if I freed up the disk space the computer would go back

>>> to working properly.

>>>

>>> I appreciate any advice.

[Guest C.Joseph S. Drayton]

Re: Computer shutting down automatically

 

Jason wrote:

>Thank you for all of your responses. Now if only my computer will

>stay on long enough to try all the remedies!

>

>Jason

>

>"Doug" wrote:

>

>> Does the PC shutdown, or just swicth off suddenly?

>> I've just had a PC that would switch off suddenly due to CPU

>>overheating.

>> Switch on and go into SETUP or BIOS. Check all the options to see

>>if CPU temperature is shown. In my case it was in the PC Health

>>section.

>> I watched this setting, if it gets over 60 degrees you may have a

>>problem. Mine switched off at 90 degrees.

>> I removed the CPU fan and cleaned all the junk off the heat sink

>>and that fixed the problem.

>> --

>> Doug

>>

>>

>> "Jason" wrote:

>>

>> > My computer shuts down automatically. I think the problem is

>>due to low disk > space. My disk space is in the range of 0-4 GB.

>>If I free disk space by > either removing or backing up files will

>>this resolve my issue? At this > point I've had my computer for

>>about five years. I realize that most > computers have a limited

>>life. I would hope if I freed up the disk space the > computer

>>would go back to working properly. >

>> > I appreciate any advice.

>> >

>> >

 

Hi Jason,

 

1) Is the computer in question a laptop? laptops as they get older tend

to develop overheating problems. Because of their design, cleaning them

can be difficult so a lot of people don't ever think about the amount

of dust/dirt that can accumulate in the laptop.

 

2) Can you tell us what you are doing when the shutdown occurs?

 

3) Do you process data files that require more physical memory then

available? If so and you are making heavy use of the swapfile, it can

cause your hard disk to overheat more easily which means the computer

itself will be having more heat within it case.

 

4) When you are clearing space on your hard disk, do you make sure to

clear ALL of the temp folders?

 

5) If disk space is at a premium, have you removed the uninstall

folders for Windows updates?

 

6) Have you run a S.M.A.R.T. drive test on your hard disk?

 

--

 

Sincerely,

C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T

 

CSD Computer Services

 

Web site: http://csdcs.itgo.com/

E-mail: cjoseph@csdcs.itgo.com