Guest Derek Harvey Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Hi Folks, Can anyone help with this, please? I have read various help files on setting up a dual boot with XP installed into a separate partition on a system with Vista pre-installed. The system is a Medion system with SCSI internals, 3Gb RAM and Intel Quad processor. Not sure what details are relevant to this problem . I have created a blank partition using Paragon Hard Disk Manager, formatted NTFS version 3.01 (as it was). I have not re-formatted it, perhaps I should. I hide the Vista partition and make it Inactive and the new one active. Now try booting from XP Pro (OEM) CD: I am NOT offered a choice of partition but I assume it is the now only active primary partition that will be used. Various items are loaded in a blue screen with bottom info line and it gets to 'Starting windows' but then stops with 'found a problem' and STOP code 0x0000007B (0xF78D2524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000 The words suggest it has a problem with the HD but I have run a check on the partition using the Paragon boot recovery disk and it reports no errors. The problem repeats. Any ideas? Is the NTFS version wrong for XP? should I change the XP partition to FAT32? XP Setup does ask if I need to load a third-party SCSI driver but I cannot find any such thing on the Drivers supplied; how would I find out about this? Thanks. Derek
Guest Michael Jennings Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Re: Install XP on blank partition on Vista machine I suppose that you are in the United Kingdom. If so, then http://www.medion.co.uk/ may have an XP SCSI driver for your Medion computer. Click the " -> More " in Drivers & Updates. http://www1.medion.de/downloads/templates/hilfe_uk.html Put the number they want in the form. Click " Search " "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message news:OprqEPBzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Hi Folks, > Can anyone help with this, please? > I have read various help files on setting up a dual boot with XP installed > into a separate partition on a system with Vista pre-installed. The system is > a Medion system with SCSI internals, 3Gb RAM and Intel Quad processor. Not > sure what details are relevant to this problem . > I have created a blank partition using Paragon Hard Disk Manager, formatted > NTFS version 3.01 (as it was). I have not re-formatted it, perhaps I should. > I hide the Vista partition and make it Inactive and the new one active. > Now try booting from XP Pro (OEM) CD: > I am NOT offered a choice of partition but I assume it is the now only active > primary partition that will be used. > Various items are loaded in a blue screen with bottom info line and it gets to > 'Starting windows' but then stops with 'found a problem' and STOP code > 0x0000007B (0xF78D2524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000 > The words suggest it has a problem with the HD but I have run a check on the > partition using the Paragon boot recovery disk and it reports no errors. > The problem repeats. > Any ideas? Is the NTFS version wrong for XP? should I change the XP partition > to FAT32? > XP Setup does ask if I need to load a third-party SCSI driver but I cannot > find any such thing on the Drivers supplied; how would I find out about this? > Thanks. > Derek > >
Guest Derek Harvey Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Re: Install XP on blank partition on Vista machine Thanks Michael, I don't know where SCSI came from when I wrote the query, minor brainstorm! I meant of course SATA. But I guess your hint applies anyway. Thanks. I'll give that a trial (and, yes, I am in UK (Wales)). I did notice the initial setup loading various SCSI things but do not recall seeing any SATA things. Derek "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23KMnfnCzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I suppose that you are in the United Kingdom. If so, then > http://www.medion.co.uk/ > may have an XP SCSI driver for your Medion computer. > Click the " -> More " in Drivers & Updates. > http://www1.medion.de/downloads/templates/hilfe_uk.html > Put the number they want in the form. Click " Search " > > "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message > news:OprqEPBzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Hi Folks, >> Can anyone help with this, please? >> I have read various help files on setting up a dual boot with XP >> installed into a separate partition on a system with Vista pre-installed. >> The system is a Medion system with SCSI internals, 3Gb RAM and Intel Quad >> processor. Not sure what details are relevant to this problem . >> I have created a blank partition using Paragon Hard Disk Manager, >> formatted NTFS version 3.01 (as it was). I have not re-formatted it, >> perhaps I should. >> I hide the Vista partition and make it Inactive and the new one active. >> Now try booting from XP Pro (OEM) CD: >> I am NOT offered a choice of partition but I assume it is the now only >> active primary partition that will be used. >> Various items are loaded in a blue screen with bottom info line and it >> gets to 'Starting windows' but then stops with 'found a problem' and STOP >> code >> 0x0000007B (0xF78D2524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000 >> The words suggest it has a problem with the HD but I have run a check on >> the partition using the Paragon boot recovery disk and it reports no >> errors. >> The problem repeats. >> Any ideas? Is the NTFS version wrong for XP? should I change the XP >> partition to FAT32? >> XP Setup does ask if I need to load a third-party SCSI driver but I >> cannot find any such thing on the Drivers supplied; how would I find out >> about this? >> Thanks. >> Derek >> >> > >
Guest Michael Jennings Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Re: Install XP on blank partition on Vista machine If they won't furnish XP drivers, you could run XP virtualized in Vista. Microsoft's Virtual PC wants Ultimate, Business or Enterprise: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/overview.mspx If you've got Home Premium, Sun's VirtualBox should work: http://www.virtualbox.org/ "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message news:u2%23flNHzIHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Thanks Michael, > I don't know where SCSI came from when I wrote the query, minor brainstorm! I > meant of course SATA. > But I guess your hint applies anyway. Thanks. I'll give that a trial (and, > yes, I am in UK (Wales)). > I did notice the initial setup loading various SCSI things but do not recall > seeing any SATA things. > Derek > > "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23KMnfnCzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>I suppose that you are in the United Kingdom. If so, then >> http://www.medion.co.uk/ >> may have an XP SCSI driver for your Medion computer. >> Click the " -> More " in Drivers & Updates. >> http://www1.medion.de/downloads/templates/hilfe_uk.html >> Put the number they want in the form. Click " Search " >> >> "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message >> news:OprqEPBzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Hi Folks, >>> Can anyone help with this, please? >>> I have read various help files on setting up a dual boot with XP installed >>> into a separate partition on a system with Vista pre-installed. The system >>> is a Medion system with SCSI internals, 3Gb RAM and Intel Quad processor. >>> Not sure what details are relevant to this problem . >>> I have created a blank partition using Paragon Hard Disk Manager, formatted >>> NTFS version 3.01 (as it was). I have not re-formatted it, perhaps I should. >>> I hide the Vista partition and make it Inactive and the new one active. >>> Now try booting from XP Pro (OEM) CD: >>> I am NOT offered a choice of partition but I assume it is the now only >>> active primary partition that will be used. >>> Various items are loaded in a blue screen with bottom info line and it gets >>> to 'Starting windows' but then stops with 'found a problem' and STOP code >>> 0x0000007B (0xF78D2524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000 >>> The words suggest it has a problem with the HD but I have run a check on the >>> partition using the Paragon boot recovery disk and it reports no errors. >>> The problem repeats. >>> Any ideas? Is the NTFS version wrong for XP? should I change the XP >>> partition to FAT32? >>> XP Setup does ask if I need to load a third-party SCSI driver but I cannot >>> find any such thing on the Drivers supplied; how would I find out about >>> this? >>> Thanks. >>> Derek >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Derek Harvey Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 Re: Install XP on blank partition on Vista machine Thanks for that idea, Michael. What I have is Vista Home Premium and I'll investigate Sun. I would still prefer to have it entirely separate. What Medion say is 'we do not have SATA drivers available as the machine was designed for Vista'. How meaningful a statement is that? I.e., what might they have done that would prevent a XP/SATA combination being possible? Is there such a thing as a generic SATA driver and where would I go for it? This is my first exposure to SATA although I assume it has been around for a while. It's a few years since I bought a new machine. Derek "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eaKxUFJzIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > If they won't furnish XP drivers, you could run XP virtualized in Vista. > Microsoft's Virtual PC wants Ultimate, Business or Enterprise: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/overview.mspx > If you've got Home Premium, Sun's VirtualBox should work: > http://www.virtualbox.org/ > > "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message > news:u2%23flNHzIHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Thanks Michael, >> I don't know where SCSI came from when I wrote the query, minor >> brainstorm! I meant of course SATA. >> But I guess your hint applies anyway. Thanks. I'll give that a trial >> (and, yes, I am in UK (Wales)). >> I did notice the initial setup loading various SCSI things but do not >> recall seeing any SATA things. >> Derek >> >> "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23KMnfnCzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>I suppose that you are in the United Kingdom. If so, then >>> http://www.medion.co.uk/ >>> may have an XP SCSI driver for your Medion computer. >>> Click the " -> More " in Drivers & Updates. >>> http://www1.medion.de/downloads/templates/hilfe_uk.html >>> Put the number they want in the form. Click " Search " >>> >>> "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message >>> news:OprqEPBzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> Can anyone help with this, please? >>>> I have read various help files on setting up a dual boot with XP >>>> installed into a separate partition on a system with Vista >>>> pre-installed. The system is a Medion system with SCSI internals, 3Gb >>>> RAM and Intel Quad processor. Not sure what details are relevant to >>>> this problem . >>>> I have created a blank partition using Paragon Hard Disk Manager, >>>> formatted NTFS version 3.01 (as it was). I have not re-formatted it, >>>> perhaps I should. >>>> I hide the Vista partition and make it Inactive and the new one active. >>>> Now try booting from XP Pro (OEM) CD: >>>> I am NOT offered a choice of partition but I assume it is the now only >>>> active primary partition that will be used. >>>> Various items are loaded in a blue screen with bottom info line and it >>>> gets to 'Starting windows' but then stops with 'found a problem' and >>>> STOP code >>>> 0x0000007B (0xF78D2524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000 >>>> The words suggest it has a problem with the HD but I have run a check >>>> on the partition using the Paragon boot recovery disk and it reports no >>>> errors. >>>> The problem repeats. >>>> Any ideas? Is the NTFS version wrong for XP? should I change the XP >>>> partition to FAT32? >>>> XP Setup does ask if I need to load a third-party SCSI driver but I >>>> cannot find any such thing on the Drivers supplied; how would I find >>>> out about this? >>>> Thanks. >>>> Derek >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Derek Harvey Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Install XP on blank partition on Vista machine It now appears that the SATA drivers are available as Intel Matrix Storage on the Support CD supplied by Medion and I can get the files from that or from the Vista installation, I think. BUT I understand XP will only install them from floppy AND there is no floppy drive on this system. I do have a USB floppy but that will not work during the XP install process, presumably. Is there a way round this? I have seen reference to 'slipstreaming' the install to include these drivers but I do not know what that is or how to set it up. Can you give me a link to some information about it, please. Meanwhile I am wondering if the motherboard might have a floppy controller as I have floppy drives available. Thanks. Derek "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eaKxUFJzIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > If they won't furnish XP drivers, you could run XP virtualized in Vista. > Microsoft's Virtual PC wants Ultimate, Business or Enterprise: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/overview.mspx > If you've got Home Premium, Sun's VirtualBox should work: > http://www.virtualbox.org/ > > "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message > news:u2%23flNHzIHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Thanks Michael, >> I don't know where SCSI came from when I wrote the query, minor >> brainstorm! I meant of course SATA. >> But I guess your hint applies anyway. Thanks. I'll give that a trial >> (and, yes, I am in UK (Wales)). >> I did notice the initial setup loading various SCSI things but do not >> recall seeing any SATA things. >> Derek >> >> "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23KMnfnCzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>I suppose that you are in the United Kingdom. If so, then >>> http://www.medion.co.uk/ >>> may have an XP SCSI driver for your Medion computer. >>> Click the " -> More " in Drivers & Updates. >>> http://www1.medion.de/downloads/templates/hilfe_uk.html >>> Put the number they want in the form. Click " Search " >>> >>> "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message >>> news:OprqEPBzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> Can anyone help with this, please? >>>> I have read various help files on setting up a dual boot with XP >>>> installed into a separate partition on a system with Vista >>>> pre-installed. The system is a Medion system with SCSI internals, 3Gb >>>> RAM and Intel Quad processor. Not sure what details are relevant to >>>> this problem . >>>> I have created a blank partition using Paragon Hard Disk Manager, >>>> formatted NTFS version 3.01 (as it was). I have not re-formatted it, >>>> perhaps I should. >>>> I hide the Vista partition and make it Inactive and the new one active. >>>> Now try booting from XP Pro (OEM) CD: >>>> I am NOT offered a choice of partition but I assume it is the now only >>>> active primary partition that will be used. >>>> Various items are loaded in a blue screen with bottom info line and it >>>> gets to 'Starting windows' but then stops with 'found a problem' and >>>> STOP code >>>> 0x0000007B (0xF78D2524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000 >>>> The words suggest it has a problem with the HD but I have run a check >>>> on the partition using the Paragon boot recovery disk and it reports no >>>> errors. >>>> The problem repeats. >>>> Any ideas? Is the NTFS version wrong for XP? should I change the XP >>>> partition to FAT32? >>>> XP Setup does ask if I need to load a third-party SCSI driver but I >>>> cannot find any such thing on the Drivers supplied; how would I find >>>> out about this? >>>> Thanks. >>>> Derek >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Timothy Daniels Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Install XP on blank partition on Vista machine Google "slipstream sata drivers", and you'll get lots of hits, as this is a common problem. *TimDaniels* "Derek Harvey" wrote: > It now appears that the SATA drivers are available as Intel Matrix Storage on > the Support CD supplied by Medion and I can get the files from that or from > the Vista installation, I think. BUT I understand XP will only install them > from floppy AND there is no floppy drive on this system. I do have a USB > floppy but that will not work during the XP install process, presumably. > > Is there a way round this? I have seen reference to 'slipstreaming' the > install to include these drivers but I do not know what that is or how to set > it up. Can you give me a link to some information about it, please. Meanwhile > I am wondering if the motherboard might have a floppy controller as I have > floppy drives available. > Thanks. > Derek > "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:eaKxUFJzIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> If they won't furnish XP drivers, you could run XP virtualized in Vista. >> Microsoft's Virtual PC wants Ultimate, Business or Enterprise: >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/overview.mspx >> If you've got Home Premium, Sun's VirtualBox should work: >> http://www.virtualbox.org/ >> >> "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message >> news:u2%23flNHzIHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Thanks Michael, >>> I don't know where SCSI came from when I wrote the query, minor brainstorm! >>> I meant of course SATA. >>> But I guess your hint applies anyway. Thanks. I'll give that a trial (and, >>> yes, I am in UK (Wales)). >>> I did notice the initial setup loading various SCSI things but do not recall >>> seeing any SATA things. >>> Derek >>> >>> "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23KMnfnCzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>I suppose that you are in the United Kingdom. If so, then >>>> http://www.medion.co.uk/ >>>> may have an XP SCSI driver for your Medion computer. >>>> Click the " -> More " in Drivers & Updates. >>>> http://www1.medion.de/downloads/templates/hilfe_uk.html >>>> Put the number they want in the form. Click " Search " >>>> >>>> "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:OprqEPBzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>> Can anyone help with this, please? >>>>> I have read various help files on setting up a dual boot with XP installed >>>>> into a separate partition on a system with Vista pre-installed. The system >>>>> is a Medion system with SCSI internals, 3Gb RAM and Intel Quad processor. >>>>> Not sure what details are relevant to this problem . >>>>> I have created a blank partition using Paragon Hard Disk Manager, >>>>> formatted NTFS version 3.01 (as it was). I have not re-formatted it, >>>>> perhaps I should. >>>>> I hide the Vista partition and make it Inactive and the new one active. >>>>> Now try booting from XP Pro (OEM) CD: >>>>> I am NOT offered a choice of partition but I assume it is the now only >>>>> active primary partition that will be used. >>>>> Various items are loaded in a blue screen with bottom info line and it >>>>> gets to 'Starting windows' but then stops with 'found a problem' and STOP >>>>> code >>>>> 0x0000007B (0xF78D2524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000 >>>>> The words suggest it has a problem with the HD but I have run a check on >>>>> the partition using the Paragon boot recovery disk and it reports no >>>>> errors. >>>>> The problem repeats. >>>>> Any ideas? Is the NTFS version wrong for XP? should I change the XP >>>>> partition to FAT32? >>>>> XP Setup does ask if I need to load a third-party SCSI driver but I cannot >>>>> find any such thing on the Drivers supplied; how would I find out about >>>>> this? >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Derek >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Derek Harvey Posted June 22, 2008 Posted June 22, 2008 Re: Install XP on blank partition on Vista machine I seem to have solved the problem. The info from Medion support seems to have been misleading. In fact SATA drivers for XP came on the support CD and seem to be the same files as used for Vista; I found after some research that what is needed is 'Intel Matrix Storage' - quite how I was supposed to relate that to SATA is obscure. However using those files on a floppy (how I used that on a system with no installed floppy drive is another story!) XP Pro has been able to install. Now just need to sort out the Ethernet! I may experiment with VirtualBox but now at low priority. Derek "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message news:%23y8FKMTzIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Thanks for that idea, Michael. What I have is Vista Home Premium and I'll > investigate Sun. I would still prefer to have it entirely separate. > > What Medion say is 'we do not have SATA drivers available as the machine > was designed for Vista'. How meaningful a statement is that? I.e., what > might they have done that would prevent a XP/SATA combination being > possible? Is there such a thing as a generic SATA driver and where would I > go for it? > > This is my first exposure to SATA although I assume it has been around for > a while. It's a few years since I bought a new machine. > > Derek > > "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:eaKxUFJzIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> If they won't furnish XP drivers, you could run XP virtualized in Vista. >> Microsoft's Virtual PC wants Ultimate, Business or Enterprise: >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/overview.mspx >> If you've got Home Premium, Sun's VirtualBox should work: >> http://www.virtualbox.org/ >> >> "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message >> news:u2%23flNHzIHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Thanks Michael, >>> I don't know where SCSI came from when I wrote the query, minor >>> brainstorm! I meant of course SATA. >>> But I guess your hint applies anyway. Thanks. I'll give that a trial >>> (and, yes, I am in UK (Wales)). >>> I did notice the initial setup loading various SCSI things but do not >>> recall seeing any SATA things. >>> Derek >>> >>> "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23KMnfnCzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>I suppose that you are in the United Kingdom. If so, then >>>> http://www.medion.co.uk/ >>>> may have an XP SCSI driver for your Medion computer. >>>> Click the " -> More " in Drivers & Updates. >>>> http://www1.medion.de/downloads/templates/hilfe_uk.html >>>> Put the number they want in the form. Click " Search " >>>> >>>> "Derek Harvey" <newsbox1@dvharvey.me.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:OprqEPBzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>> Can anyone help with this, please? >>>>> I have read various help files on setting up a dual boot with XP >>>>> installed into a separate partition on a system with Vista >>>>> pre-installed. The system is a Medion system with SCSI internals, 3Gb >>>>> RAM and Intel Quad processor. Not sure what details are relevant to >>>>> this problem . >>>>> I have created a blank partition using Paragon Hard Disk Manager, >>>>> formatted NTFS version 3.01 (as it was). I have not re-formatted it, >>>>> perhaps I should. >>>>> I hide the Vista partition and make it Inactive and the new one >>>>> active. >>>>> Now try booting from XP Pro (OEM) CD: >>>>> I am NOT offered a choice of partition but I assume it is the now only >>>>> active primary partition that will be used. >>>>> Various items are loaded in a blue screen with bottom info line and it >>>>> gets to 'Starting windows' but then stops with 'found a problem' and >>>>> STOP code >>>>> 0x0000007B (0xF78D2524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000 >>>>> The words suggest it has a problem with the HD but I have run a check >>>>> on the partition using the Paragon boot recovery disk and it reports >>>>> no errors. >>>>> The problem repeats. >>>>> Any ideas? Is the NTFS version wrong for XP? should I change the XP >>>>> partition to FAT32? >>>>> XP Setup does ask if I need to load a third-party SCSI driver but I >>>>> cannot find any such thing on the Drivers supplied; how would I find >>>>> out about this? >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Derek >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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