Is Terminal Server the solution to my problem? (Newbie)

[Guest jgaines911]

I have 20 users that would like to remote desktop into 20 Windows 2003 EE

servers. The problem is that many of these users want the ability to connect

to many of these servers at the same time (over the 2 user terminal

connection limit).

 

Will installing terminal server services (and the license server) on one

physical server enable these 20 servers to allow more than 2 terminal

connections (assuming enough licenses were installed)?

 

These users are a group of software developers that require direct access to

each box.

 

Thank you,

 

John Gaines

[Guest moncho]

Re: Is Terminal Server the solution to my problem? (Newbie)

 

jgaines911 wrote:

> I have 20 users that would like to remote desktop into 20 Windows 2003 EE

> servers. The problem is that many of these users want the ability to connect

> to many of these servers at the same time (over the 2 user terminal

> connection limit).

>

> Will installing terminal server services (and the license server) on one

> physical server enable these 20 servers to allow more than 2 terminal

> connections (assuming enough licenses were installed)?

>

> These users are a group of software developers that require direct access to

> each box.

 

One license server with 20 User licenses is all you need to

allow access to the 20 TS servers. This will allow you to

have 20 users on each server at one time.

 

Installing Terminal Services software on all of these

servers is a whole other ball of wax and most likely a bad

idea, unless you are ready and willing to put in some work.

 

I am guessing that these 20 W2K3 servers already have software

installed on them and are in production?

 

If you want to install TS on each of these servers, ALL current

applications will have to be reloaded on EACH server after

you install TS.

 

I would definitely assess whether or not the developers need

to be on all 20 servers at the same time. The 2 user limit

refers to concurrent users.

 

moncho

[Guest jgaines911]

Re: Is Terminal Server the solution to my problem? (Newbie)

 

Thanks for the quick reply moncho.

 

So, in order to have more than 2 concurrent user connections on a server, it

will need terminal services installed? I just want to be sure I understand.

 

Yes, these servers already have application software installed on them (but

are in a test/dev environment). I did start the installation of terminal

services on one of the servers and was warned that all existing software

would have to be uninstalled/reinstalled in order to be used (big headache).

 

I was hoping that I would be able to have one terminal services server and

present the desktop of these 20 servers to it, and have the users connect and

work on them through it (the terminal service server). I think this is what

can be done using Citrix (very limited knowledge of this though).

 

Thanks again,

 

John

 

 

"moncho" wrote:

> jgaines911 wrote:

> > I have 20 users that would like to remote desktop into 20 Windows 2003 EE

> > servers. The problem is that many of these users want the ability to connect

> > to many of these servers at the same time (over the 2 user terminal

> > connection limit).

> >

> > Will installing terminal server services (and the license server) on one

> > physical server enable these 20 servers to allow more than 2 terminal

> > connections (assuming enough licenses were installed)?

> >

> > These users are a group of software developers that require direct access to

> > each box.

>

> One license server with 20 User licenses is all you need to

> allow access to the 20 TS servers. This will allow you to

> have 20 users on each server at one time.

>

> Installing Terminal Services software on all of these

> servers is a whole other ball of wax and most likely a bad

> idea, unless you are ready and willing to put in some work.

>

> I am guessing that these 20 W2K3 servers already have software

> installed on them and are in production?

>

> If you want to install TS on each of these servers, ALL current

> applications will have to be reloaded on EACH server after

> you install TS.

>

> I would definitely assess whether or not the developers need

> to be on all 20 servers at the same time. The 2 user limit

> refers to concurrent users.

>

> moncho

>

[Guest moncho]

Re: Is Terminal Server the solution to my problem? (Newbie)

 

jgaines911 wrote:

> Thanks for the quick reply moncho.

>

> So, in order to have more than 2 concurrent user connections on a server, it

> will need terminal services installed? I just want to be sure I understand.

 

Yes, this is correct.

>

> Yes, these servers already have application software installed on them (but

> are in a test/dev environment). I did start the installation of terminal

> services on one of the servers and was warned that all existing software

> would have to be uninstalled/reinstalled in order to be used (big headache).

 

Definitely a big headache but must be done.

>

> I was hoping that I would be able to have one terminal services server and

> present the desktop of these 20 servers to it, and have the users connect and

> work on them through it (the terminal service server). I think this is what

> can be done using Citrix (very limited knowledge of this though).

 

It all depends upon your current setup and how you want to attack the

problem.

 

Based on what you stated, there is the following;

 

1. Create one TS, 20 users can log in, then use RDP on the TS server

to connect to the other 20 machines. In this scenario, 20 users

can connect to the ONE TS, but only two users can connect to each

of the other 20 machines.

 

2. Setup Remote Access and only have two users connect at one time

to all servers.

 

There are probably other ways to accomplish what you want but

that comes down to money, security and company policies.

 

How are they currently connecting to these servers or are you still

in the planning stages?

>

> Thanks again,

 

Welcome

 

moncho

>

> John

>

>

> "moncho" wrote:

>

>> jgaines911 wrote:

>>> I have 20 users that would like to remote desktop into 20 Windows 2003 EE

>>> servers. The problem is that many of these users want the ability to connect

>>> to many of these servers at the same time (over the 2 user terminal

>>> connection limit).

>>>

>>> Will installing terminal server services (and the license server) on one

>>> physical server enable these 20 servers to allow more than 2 terminal

>>> connections (assuming enough licenses were installed)?

>>>

>>> These users are a group of software developers that require direct access to

>>> each box.

>> One license server with 20 User licenses is all you need to

>> allow access to the 20 TS servers. This will allow you to

>> have 20 users on each server at one time.

>>

>> Installing Terminal Services software on all of these

>> servers is a whole other ball of wax and most likely a bad

>> idea, unless you are ready and willing to put in some work.

>>

>> I am guessing that these 20 W2K3 servers already have software

>> installed on them and are in production?

>>

>> If you want to install TS on each of these servers, ALL current

>> applications will have to be reloaded on EACH server after

>> you install TS.

>>

>> I would definitely assess whether or not the developers need

>> to be on all 20 servers at the same time. The 2 user limit

>> refers to concurrent users.

>>

>> moncho

>>

[Guest jgaines911]

Re: Is Terminal Server the solution to my problem? (Newbie)

 

Ah, I feel much better now that I understand this concept. Not so good now

that I know how long this is going to take to implement.

 

These developers are currently connecting to each server using remote

desktop, and when a 3rd user tries to connect to the same server they get

denied.

 

I think I have what I need now. Thank you moncho!

 

john

 

"moncho" wrote:

> jgaines911 wrote:

> > Thanks for the quick reply moncho.

> >

> > So, in order to have more than 2 concurrent user connections on a server, it

> > will need terminal services installed? I just want to be sure I understand.

>

> Yes, this is correct.

>

> >

> > Yes, these servers already have application software installed on them (but

> > are in a test/dev environment). I did start the installation of terminal

> > services on one of the servers and was warned that all existing software

> > would have to be uninstalled/reinstalled in order to be used (big headache).

>

> Definitely a big headache but must be done.

>

> >

> > I was hoping that I would be able to have one terminal services server and

> > present the desktop of these 20 servers to it, and have the users connect and

> > work on them through it (the terminal service server). I think this is what

> > can be done using Citrix (very limited knowledge of this though).

>

> It all depends upon your current setup and how you want to attack the

> problem.

>

> Based on what you stated, there is the following;

>

> 1. Create one TS, 20 users can log in, then use RDP on the TS server

> to connect to the other 20 machines. In this scenario, 20 users

> can connect to the ONE TS, but only two users can connect to each

> of the other 20 machines.

>

> 2. Setup Remote Access and only have two users connect at one time

> to all servers.

>

> There are probably other ways to accomplish what you want but

> that comes down to money, security and company policies.

>

> How are they currently connecting to these servers or are you still

> in the planning stages?

>

> >

> > Thanks again,

>

> Welcome

>

> moncho

>

> >

> > John

> >

> >

> > "moncho" wrote:

> >

> >> jgaines911 wrote:

> >>> I have 20 users that would like to remote desktop into 20 Windows 2003 EE

> >>> servers. The problem is that many of these users want the ability to connect

> >>> to many of these servers at the same time (over the 2 user terminal

> >>> connection limit).

> >>>

> >>> Will installing terminal server services (and the license server) on one

> >>> physical server enable these 20 servers to allow more than 2 terminal

> >>> connections (assuming enough licenses were installed)?

> >>>

> >>> These users are a group of software developers that require direct access to

> >>> each box.

> >> One license server with 20 User licenses is all you need to

> >> allow access to the 20 TS servers. This will allow you to

> >> have 20 users on each server at one time.

> >>

> >> Installing Terminal Services software on all of these

> >> servers is a whole other ball of wax and most likely a bad

> >> idea, unless you are ready and willing to put in some work.

> >>

> >> I am guessing that these 20 W2K3 servers already have software

> >> installed on them and are in production?

> >>

> >> If you want to install TS on each of these servers, ALL current

> >> applications will have to be reloaded on EACH server after

> >> you install TS.

> >>

> >> I would definitely assess whether or not the developers need

> >> to be on all 20 servers at the same time. The 2 user limit

> >> refers to concurrent users.

> >>

> >> moncho

> >>

>