Guest cheley_bonstell88@live.com Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 XP Death Watch http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-weeks_1.html Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics vendor Net Applications, for example, pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went online last month, five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista. Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important. According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit retailers and OEMs to sell the nearly seven-year-old operating system. [ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition today. ] http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/ You'll have questions as that date approaches, including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging, anyone?); we plan to have the answers, starting with this FAQ and continuing through the end of next month. How long until Microsoft shuts off the XP spigot? Five weeks from today is the last day Microsoft will officially allow retailers to sell the old operating system, and let major computer makers -- called "OEMs," for "original equipment manufacturers" -- to sell PCs with XP pre-installed. Monday, June 30, is the EOL, or End-Of-Life, a term Dell, not Microsoft, has publicly used, for XP's retail and OEM availability. So what's the June 18 date I've heard about? That's the day that Dell has said is the last possible day for its customers to buy a machine running Windows XP. "To meet Microsoft's June 30 last-day-to-ship OEM Windows XP deadline, June 18 is the last time to purchase a Dell laptop, desktop, or workstation with an OEM Windows XP license" , Dell says on its Web site. http://www.dell.com
Guest cheley_bonstell88@live.com Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 So help save Windows XP So help save Windows XP So help save Windows XP On Jun 13, 8:52 pm, cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote: > XP Death Watch > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-... > > Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains > the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics > vendor Net Applications, for example, > pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went > online last month, > > five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista. > > Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important. > > According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit > retailers and OEMs to sell > the nearly seven-year-old operating system. > > [ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition > today. ] > > http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/ > > You'll have questions as that date approaches, > > including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging, > anyone?); > > we plan to have the answers, starting with this FAQ and continuing > through the end of next month. > > How long until Microsoft shuts off the XP spigot? Five weeks from > today is the last day Microsoft > > will officially allow retailers to sell the old operating system, and > let major computer makers > -- > called "OEMs," for "original equipment manufacturers" -- to sell PCs > with XP pre-installed. > > Monday, June 30, is the EOL, or End-Of-Life, a term Dell, not > Microsoft, has publicly used, > for XP's retail and OEM availability. > > So what's the June 18 date I've heard about? That's the day that Dell > has said is the last > > possible day for its customers to buy a machine running Windows XP. > "To meet Microsoft's > > June 30 last-day-to-ship OEM Windows XP deadline, > > June 18 is the last time to purchase a Dell laptop, desktop, or > workstation > > with an OEM Windows XP license" > > , Dell says on its Web site. > > http://www.dell.com
Guest Milt Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: So help save Windows XP Re: So help save Windows XP cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote: > So help save Windows XP > Save it? Its not going anywhere, you will still be able to use it for years to come. Heck, you could still use Windows 3.1 if you wanted to, no one is stopping you. Same with Windows 2000, NT, 98, ME, 95....
Guest Canuck57 Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch <cheley_bonstell88@live.com> wrote in message news:9a7b0dd0-6d20-47d2-bb3f-3bbc3ea81d9a@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > XP Death Watch Why buy XP or petition, Microsoft has declared it dead. Heck, for that mater all the developers are off to "Win 7". Why even bother with Vista if your PC isn't broke. And if it is broke, why not look at EeePC or a Apple Mac? Or buy a commodity (cheap) PC and load Ubuntu/Linux? Microsoft had the best, most accepted OS out there, XP. Now they shot it. Making the same mistake as Coke, new Coke and Coke Clasic. But guess what, the more people that learn Macs and Linux, they might not come back. I am not going to sign the petition, I look forward to Microsoft shooting there feet right off. Besides Linux is free of DRM. Serves them right. > http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-weeks_1.html > > Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains > the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics > vendor Net Applications, for example, > pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went > online last month, > > five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista. > > Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important. > > According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit > retailers and OEMs to sell > the nearly seven-year-old operating system. > > [ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition > today. ] > > > http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/ > > > You'll have questions as that date approaches, > > including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging, > anyone?); > > we plan to have the answers, starting with this FAQ and continuing > through the end of next month. > > How long until Microsoft shuts off the XP spigot? Five weeks from > today is the last day Microsoft > > will officially allow retailers to sell the old operating system, and > let major computer makers > -- > called "OEMs," for "original equipment manufacturers" -- to sell PCs > with XP pre-installed. > > > Monday, June 30, is the EOL, or End-Of-Life, a term Dell, not > Microsoft, has publicly used, > for XP's retail and OEM availability. > > So what's the June 18 date I've heard about? That's the day that Dell > has said is the last > > possible day for its customers to buy a machine running Windows XP. > "To meet Microsoft's > > June 30 last-day-to-ship OEM Windows XP deadline, > > June 18 is the last time to purchase a Dell laptop, desktop, or > workstation > > with an OEM Windows XP license" > > , Dell says on its Web site. > > http://www.dell.com > > >
Guest Canuck57 Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: So help save Windows XP Re: So help save Windows XP "Milt" <netrage@nospammiltsweb.com> wrote in message news:485326a2$0$5704$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote: >> So help save Windows XP >> > > Save it? Its not going anywhere, you will still be able to use it for > years to come. Heck, you could still use Windows 3.1 if you wanted to, no > one is stopping you. Same with Windows 2000, NT, 98, ME, 95.... You can in so long as your PC already has it and it does not crap out. Most PCs are not designed to last 10+ years. (assuming your XP is original and a patch does not blow it up).
Guest David Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: So help save Windows XP Re: So help save Windows XP On Jun 13, 10:02 pm, Milt <netr...@nospammiltsweb.com> wrote: > cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote: > > So help save Windows XP > > Save it? Its not going anywhere, you will still be able to use it for > years to come. Heck, you could still use Windows 3.1 if you wanted to, > no one is stopping you. Same with Windows 2000, NT, 98, ME, 95.... Well, let me spell it out. say next year , you want to buy a nice new Shiny PC.. but your choices will be either Vista ( search for Vista on Youtube ) or something that might not be compatible with your work group, or require a" Windows MVP" to support it. If Windows XP is available , pre installed on your new PC, you're good to go. Currently, with Vista, to get any sort of performance out of it, you have to figure out How to disable half of the system just to get the same performance you currently get with Windows XP. - and I say Why force the computer illiterates of the world ( the rest of the Population) through all this Hosre Siht. Why, with Vista, they can't even get out to Yahoo Groups. Having a " Vista Only " PC world is delegating many PC's of the world into fancy screen-saver endowed paperweights. A Vista Only PC world will cripple normal commerce and industry. And I say, why put up with this Microsoft "Vista only " crap! Just Worry, Cajole and Bullyrage Microsoft into making Good old reliable Windows XP available for The Foreseeable Future.. Thank You ..
Guest Canuck57 Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: So help save Windows XP Re: So help save Windows XP "David" <mcdonald606a@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ccf7cc1b-e80d-4ce8-8003-3f27e0b68c79@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > just to get the same performance you currently get with Windows XP. You are doing good. I never got that far. >Having a " Vista Only " PC world is delegating many PC's of the world > into fancy screen-saver endowed paperweights. Not really, Ubuntu works on it just great. > A Vista Only PC world will cripple normal commerce and industry. That is why business is rejecting Vista.
Guest Lil' Dave Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: So help save Windows XP Re: So help save Windows XP "David" <mcdonald606a@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ccf7cc1b-e80d-4ce8-8003-3f27e0b68c79@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... On Jun 13, 10:02 pm, Milt <netr...@nospammiltsweb.com> wrote: > cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote: > > So help save Windows XP > > Save it? Its not going anywhere, you will still be able to use it for > years to come. Heck, you could still use Windows 3.1 if you wanted to, > no one is stopping you. Same with Windows 2000, NT, 98, ME, 95.... Well, let me spell it out. say next year , you want to buy a nice new Shiny PC.. but your choices will be either Vista ( search for Vista on Youtube ) or something that might not be compatible with your work group, or require a" Windows MVP" to support it. If Windows XP is available , pre installed on your new PC, you're good to go. Currently, with Vista, to get any sort of performance out of it, you have to figure out How to disable half of the system just to get the same performance you currently get with Windows XP. - and I say Why force the computer illiterates of the world ( the rest of the Population) through all this Hosre Siht. Why, with Vista, they can't even get out to Yahoo Groups. Having a " Vista Only " PC world is delegating many PC's of the world into fancy screen-saver endowed paperweights. A Vista Only PC world will cripple normal commerce and industry. And I say, why put up with this Microsoft "Vista only " crap! Just Worry, Cajole and Bullyrage Microsoft into making Good old reliable Windows XP available for The Foreseeable Future.. Thank You .. ----------- Each previous version of windows outperformed its replacement, assuming both could function properly with that same hardware/same PC. IE: appropriate hardware drivers available and used for comparision sakes when comparing the OSes. The hardware drivers for a particular OS from the hardware makers follow suit of the market, not MS's choice of what OS to be sold for license. Similar for 3rd party applications. But, different from the prior MS OSes, activation is the trump card which no one but MS controls. So, in effect, controls its own market. Mark my words for future reference of things to come. -- Dave
Guest Hayden Kirk Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch I sell Vista to many businesses. They don't reject it at all. Just stop using min speced hardware, or hardware under min spec. That's the reason it runs so slow. My customers want a good 64bit system. 64bit Vista is a lot better than 64bit XP. Do some homework, half of you sound like you haven't got a clue. - Hayden "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message news:BVF4k.29746$gc5.5410@pd7urf2no... > > <cheley_bonstell88@live.com> wrote in message > news:9a7b0dd0-6d20-47d2-bb3f-3bbc3ea81d9a@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >> XP Death Watch > > Why buy XP or petition, Microsoft has declared it dead. Heck, for that > mater all the developers are off to "Win 7". Why even bother with Vista > if your PC isn't broke. And if it is broke, why not look at EeePC or a > Apple Mac? Or buy a commodity (cheap) PC and load Ubuntu/Linux? > > Microsoft had the best, most accepted OS out there, XP. Now they shot it. > Making the same mistake as Coke, new Coke and Coke Clasic. But guess > what, the more people that learn Macs and Linux, they might not come back. > > I am not going to sign the petition, I look forward to Microsoft shooting > there feet right off. Besides Linux is free of DRM. Serves them right. > > >> http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-weeks_1.html >> >> Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains >> the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics >> vendor Net Applications, for example, >> pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went >> online last month, >> >> five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista. >> >> Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important. >> >> According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit >> retailers and OEMs to sell >> the nearly seven-year-old operating system. >> >> [ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition >> today. ] >> >> >> http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/ >> >> >> You'll have questions as that date approaches, >> >> including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging, >> anyone?); >> >> we plan to have the answers, starting with this FAQ and continuing >> through the end of next month. >> >> How long until Microsoft shuts off the XP spigot? Five weeks from >> today is the last day Microsoft >> >> will officially allow retailers to sell the old operating system, and >> let major computer makers >> -- >> called "OEMs," for "original equipment manufacturers" -- to sell PCs >> with XP pre-installed. >> >> >> Monday, June 30, is the EOL, or End-Of-Life, a term Dell, not >> Microsoft, has publicly used, >> for XP's retail and OEM availability. >> >> So what's the June 18 date I've heard about? That's the day that Dell >> has said is the last >> >> possible day for its customers to buy a machine running Windows XP. >> "To meet Microsoft's >> >> June 30 last-day-to-ship OEM Windows XP deadline, >> >> June 18 is the last time to purchase a Dell laptop, desktop, or >> workstation >> >> with an OEM Windows XP license" >> >> , Dell says on its Web site. >> >> http://www.dell.com >> >> >> > >
Guest Nick Ballard Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote: > XP Death Watch > > > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-weeks_1.html > > Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains > the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics > vendor Net Applications, for example, > pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went > online last month, > > five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista. > > Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important. > > According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit > retailers and OEMs to sell > the nearly seven-year-old operating system. > <SNIP> Great. Let them shoot themselves in the foot. Vista is a crippled, DRM-infested piece of crap that makes a dual-core AMD64 machine perform like a Pentium II. If MSFT seriously thinks that it's somehow advantageous to push this sorry excuse for an OS onto the general public, they deserve to go out of business. Windows XP isn't the only option if you're trying to avoid Vista. There are Linux, BSD, OS X, and Solaris...all of which have been gaining serious application support in the form of native 3rd-party apps and compatibility libraries such as WINE. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Guest the wharf rat Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch In article <Ot5dobdzIHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, Hayden Kirk <hayden@mobilepc.co.nz> wrote: > >My customers want a good 64bit system. Why?
Guest Rex Ballard Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch On Jun 13, 8:52 pm, cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote: > XP Death Watch > http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-... > > Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains > the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics > vendor Net Applications, for example, > pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went > online last month, > > five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista. > > Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important. Don't count on it. > According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit > retailers and OEMs to sell > the nearly seven-year-old operating system. Microsoft may be slitting their own throat. The OEMs are still negotiating with Microsoft and it's possible that if Microsoft refuses to deal, or attempts to force the shift to Vista too aggressively, that the OEMs will respond much the same way that Windows NT server customers responded when Microsoft tried to force them into switching to Windows 2003. Instead of being a massive migration worth $billions, many corporations realized that they were being herded into yet a another slaughterhouse, and opted to switch as many servers as they possibly could to Linux, or Unix, including AIX, Solaris, and HP_UX. > [ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition > today. ] > > http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/ > > You'll have questions as that date approaches, > > including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging, > anyone?); Of course, Microsoft is hoping that it will force a mass-migration to Vista. Instead, there is a very good chance that corporate customers, as well as many retail customers, will end up getting much more interested in Linux as a replacement for Vista. Many corporations have already purchased irrevocable licenses to XP/ 2000 (licenses that allow employees to install either XP or 2000) for all of their employees, and these licenses are transferable. This means that corporate customers might opt to purchase machines with Linux, then install these XP or 2000 licenses VM clients. Many corporations may even be ready to "pull the plug" on nearly all Microsoft PCs, especially if Microsoft tries to "put the squeeze on them" for more huge payments for the sake of Vista. Dell may have opted to stop selling XP, but it might be interesting to see how HP, Acer, and Lenovo feel about this. Microsoft might have a very hard time getting all 4 OEMs to accept the very unpopular Vista as the only option. > , Dell says on its Web site. > > http://www.dell.com
Guest Clear Windows Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch I would fire any tech on the spot that even dares to imply to put any kind of vista on a company workstation you must be stupid right? You role is to protect your clients not give them poop (vista) > Do some homework, half of you sound like you haven't got a clue. YOU FRIKIN MORON!!!! Computer illiterate $#&Q)&$Q)*$& "Hayden Kirk" <hayden@mobilepc.co.nz> wrote in message news:Ot5dobdzIHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > I sell Vista to many businesses. > > They don't reject it at all. Just stop using min speced hardware, or > hardware under min spec. That's the reason it runs so slow. My customers > want a good 64bit system. 64bit Vista is a lot better than 64bit XP. > > Do some homework, half of you sound like you haven't got a clue. > > - Hayden > > > "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message > news:BVF4k.29746$gc5.5410@pd7urf2no... >> >> <cheley_bonstell88@live.com> wrote in message >> news:9a7b0dd0-6d20-47d2-bb3f-3bbc3ea81d9a@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >>> XP Death Watch >> >> Why buy XP or petition, Microsoft has declared it dead. Heck, for that >> mater all the developers are off to "Win 7". Why even bother with Vista >> if your PC isn't broke. And if it is broke, why not look at EeePC or a >> Apple Mac? Or buy a commodity (cheap) PC and load Ubuntu/Linux? >> >> Microsoft had the best, most accepted OS out there, XP. Now they shot >> it. Making the same mistake as Coke, new Coke and Coke Clasic. But guess >> what, the more people that learn Macs and Linux, they might not come >> back. >> >> I am not going to sign the petition, I look forward to Microsoft shooting >> there feet right off. Besides Linux is free of DRM. Serves them right. >> >> >>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-weeks_1.html >>> >>> Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains >>> the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics >>> vendor Net Applications, for example, >>> pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went >>> online last month, >>> >>> five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista. >>> >>> Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important. >>> >>> According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit >>> retailers and OEMs to sell >>> the nearly seven-year-old operating system. >>> >>> [ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition >>> today. ] >>> >>> >>> http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/ >>> >>> >>> You'll have questions as that date approaches, >>> >>> including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging, >>> anyone?); >>> >>> we plan to have the answers, starting with this FAQ and continuing >>> through the end of next month. >>> >>> How long until Microsoft shuts off the XP spigot? Five weeks from >>> today is the last day Microsoft >>> >>> will officially allow retailers to sell the old operating system, and >>> let major computer makers >>> -- >>> called "OEMs," for "original equipment manufacturers" -- to sell PCs >>> with XP pre-installed. >>> >>> >>> Monday, June 30, is the EOL, or End-Of-Life, a term Dell, not >>> Microsoft, has publicly used, >>> for XP's retail and OEM availability. >>> >>> So what's the June 18 date I've heard about? That's the day that Dell >>> has said is the last >>> >>> possible day for its customers to buy a machine running Windows XP. >>> "To meet Microsoft's >>> >>> June 30 last-day-to-ship OEM Windows XP deadline, >>> >>> June 18 is the last time to purchase a Dell laptop, desktop, or >>> workstation >>> >>> with an OEM Windows XP license" >>> >>> , Dell says on its Web site. >>> >>> http://www.dell.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Roy Schestowitz Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ____/ Rex Ballard on Saturday 14 June 2008 08:07 : \____ >> Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important. > > Don't count on it. They enable upgrades to XP now, provided that you 'upgrade' your Vista (edition-wise). Another fine example of double-dipping to game sales statistics and milk innocent users, who can -- and probably will -- pay extra for XP. It was in the news just a couple of days ago: Top OEMs to sell XP PCs down to the wire ,----[ Quote ] | A clause in Microsoft's guidelines lets computer makers install Windows XP | Professional -- but not the more common and less expensive Windows XP Home -- | on new PCs at a customer's request when those machines are ordered with | Windows Vista Business or Windows Vista Ultimate. `---- http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9096598&intsrc=hm_list - -- ~~ Best of wishes Roy S. Schestowitz | HTML is for page layout, not for textual messages http://Schestowitz.com | Free as in Free Beer | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E Load average (/proc/loadavg): 0.90 1.05 1.14 2/178 12594 http://iuron.com - semantic search engine project initiative -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIU3SmU4xAY3RXLo4RAoTJAKCmcYcA2RvXKqWDAbG1evO4eOriyQCff8QI dtcD0W8tsuPs26W8A45dvRc= =RNF7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Guest Not Me Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: So help save Windows XP Re: So help save Windows XP I have a machine that started with an OEM version of W3.1 on a 486 CPU, upgraded to W95, then upgraded to W98, SE, then ME, cloned to a new, larger HDD and put on a new MB/P4 CPU then updated to XP. It still runs fine after all these years...that's a long time for 1 install with many upgrades, and I have never needed to format/reinstall as I see so many recommending. I can make Windows work, even Vista. I just find Vista poorley done and distasteful to use. Some people like it, but then again...some people like liver too... I'll be using XP for a long time, unless W7 is an actual improvement. "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message news:UXF4k.8388$Jx.3194@pd7urf1no... > > "Milt" <netrage@nospammiltsweb.com> wrote in message > news:485326a2$0$5704$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote: >>> So help save Windows XP >>> >> >> Save it? Its not going anywhere, you will still be able to use it for >> years to come. Heck, you could still use Windows 3.1 if you wanted to, no >> one is stopping you. Same with Windows 2000, NT, 98, ME, 95.... > > You can in so long as your PC already has it and it does not crap out. > Most PCs are not designed to last 10+ years. (assuming your XP is original > and a patch does not blow it up). >
Guest RHF Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: So help save Windows XP Re: So help save Windows XP On Jun 13, 7:25 pm, David <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 13, 10:02 pm, Milt <netr...@nospammiltsweb.com> wrote: > > > cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote: > > > So help save Windows XP > > > Save it? Its not going anywhere, you will still be able to use it for > > years to come. Heck, you could still use Windows 3.1 if you wanted to, > > no one is stopping you. Same with Windows 2000, NT, 98, ME, 95.... > > Well, > > let me spell it out. > > say next year , you want to buy a nice new Shiny PC.. > > but your choices will be either Vista ( search for Vista on Youtube ) > > or something that might not be compatible with your work group, or > require a" Windows MVP" to support it. > > If Windows XP is available , pre installed on your new PC, > > you're good to go. > > Currently, with Vista, to get any sort of performance out of it, you > have to figure out How to disable half of the system > > just to get the same performance you currently get with Windows XP. > > - and I say > > Why force the computer illiterates of the world ( the rest of the > Population) > > through all this Hosre Siht. > > Why, with Vista, they can't even get out to Yahoo Groups. > > Having a " Vista Only " PC world is delegating many PC's of the world > into fancy screen-saver endowed paperweights. > > A Vista Only PC world will cripple normal commerce and industry. > > And I say, > > why put up with this Microsoft "Vista only " crap! > > Just Worry, Cajole and Bullyrage Microsoft > > into making Good old reliable Windows XP available for The > Foreseeable Future.. > > Thank You .. David, OK - Simple Question : Why not buy any new PC with Vista installed on it; and Erase {Wipe Clean} the Hard Drive and Install Window's XP on it ? idtars ~ RHF .
Guest Mistoffolees Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: So help save Windows XP Re: So help save Windows XP RHF wrote: > On Jun 13, 7:25 pm, David <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On Jun 13, 10:02 pm, Milt <netr...@nospammiltsweb.com> wrote: >> >> >>>cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote: >>> >>>>So help save Windows XP >> >>>Save it? Its not going anywhere, you will still be able to use it for >>>years to come. Heck, you could still use Windows 3.1 if you wanted to, >>>no one is stopping you. Same with Windows 2000, NT, 98, ME, 95.... >> >>Well, >> >>let me spell it out. >> >>say next year , you want to buy a nice new Shiny PC.. >> >>but your choices will be either Vista ( search for Vista on Youtube ) >> >>or something that might not be compatible with your work group, or >>require a" Windows MVP" to support it. >> >>If Windows XP is available , pre installed on your new PC, >> >>you're good to go. >> >>Currently, with Vista, to get any sort of performance out of it, you >>have to figure out How to disable half of the system >> >>just to get the same performance you currently get with Windows XP. >> >>- and I say >> >>Why force the computer illiterates of the world ( the rest of the >>Population) >> >>through all this Hosre Siht. >> >>Why, with Vista, they can't even get out to Yahoo Groups. >> >>Having a " Vista Only " PC world is delegating many PC's of the world >>into fancy screen-saver endowed paperweights. >> >>A Vista Only PC world will cripple normal commerce and industry. >> >>And I say, >> >> why put up with this Microsoft "Vista only " crap! >> >>Just Worry, Cajole and Bullyrage Microsoft >> >> into making Good old reliable Windows XP available for The >>Foreseeable Future.. >> >>Thank You .. > > > David, > > OK - Simple Question : Why not buy any new PC with Vista > installed on it; and Erase {Wipe Clean} the Hard Drive and > Install Window's XP on it ? > > idtars ~ RHF > . Simple question, yes, but not necessarily a simple solution. What happens if Windows XP drivers do not exist for some of the hardware installed in the PC built by the OEM to Vista specs?
Guest Hayden Kirk Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch Yeah I'm a moron *rollseyes*. "Clear Windows" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message news:48536e53@newsgate.x-privat.org... >I would fire any tech on the spot that even dares to imply to put any kind >of vista on a company workstation > > you must be stupid right? > > You role is to protect your clients not give them poop (vista) > >> Do some homework, half of you sound like you haven't got a clue. > > YOU FRIKIN MORON!!!! Computer illiterate $#&Q)&$Q)*$& > > > > > "Hayden Kirk" <hayden@mobilepc.co.nz> wrote in message > news:Ot5dobdzIHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> I sell Vista to many businesses. >> >> They don't reject it at all. Just stop using min speced hardware, or >> hardware under min spec. That's the reason it runs so slow. My customers >> want a good 64bit system. 64bit Vista is a lot better than 64bit XP. >> >> Do some homework, half of you sound like you haven't got a clue. >> >> - Hayden >> >> >> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message >> news:BVF4k.29746$gc5.5410@pd7urf2no... >>> >>> <cheley_bonstell88@live.com> wrote in message >>> news:9a7b0dd0-6d20-47d2-bb3f-3bbc3ea81d9a@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >>>> XP Death Watch >>> >>> Why buy XP or petition, Microsoft has declared it dead. Heck, for that >>> mater all the developers are off to "Win 7". Why even bother with Vista >>> if your PC isn't broke. And if it is broke, why not look at EeePC or a >>> Apple Mac? Or buy a commodity (cheap) PC and load Ubuntu/Linux? >>> >>> Microsoft had the best, most accepted OS out there, XP. Now they shot >>> it. Making the same mistake as Coke, new Coke and Coke Clasic. But >>> guess what, the more people that learn Macs and Linux, they might not >>> come back. >>> >>> I am not going to sign the petition, I look forward to Microsoft >>> shooting there feet right off. Besides Linux is free of DRM. Serves >>> them right. >>> >>> >>>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-weeks_1.html >>>> >>>> Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains >>>> the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics >>>> vendor Net Applications, for example, >>>> pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went >>>> online last month, >>>> >>>> five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista. >>>> >>>> Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important. >>>> >>>> According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit >>>> retailers and OEMs to sell >>>> the nearly seven-year-old operating system. >>>> >>>> [ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition >>>> today. ] >>>> >>>> >>>> http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/ >>>> >>>> >>>> You'll have questions as that date approaches, >>>> >>>> including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging, >>>> anyone?); >>>> >>>> we plan to have the answers, starting with this FAQ and continuing >>>> through the end of next month. >>>> >>>> How long until Microsoft shuts off the XP spigot? Five weeks from >>>> today is the last day Microsoft >>>> >>>> will officially allow retailers to sell the old operating system, and >>>> let major computer makers >>>> -- >>>> called "OEMs," for "original equipment manufacturers" -- to sell PCs >>>> with XP pre-installed. >>>> >>>> >>>> Monday, June 30, is the EOL, or End-Of-Life, a term Dell, not >>>> Microsoft, has publicly used, >>>> for XP's retail and OEM availability. >>>> >>>> So what's the June 18 date I've heard about? That's the day that Dell >>>> has said is the last >>>> >>>> possible day for its customers to buy a machine running Windows XP. >>>> "To meet Microsoft's >>>> >>>> June 30 last-day-to-ship OEM Windows XP deadline, >>>> >>>> June 18 is the last time to purchase a Dell laptop, desktop, or >>>> workstation >>>> >>>> with an OEM Windows XP license" >>>> >>>> , Dell says on its Web site. >>>> >>>> http://www.dell.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>
Guest Bender Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: So help save Windows XP Re: So help save Windows XP My Sony laptop is now 10 years old. It came with Windows 98. I flashed the bios for a Windows 2000 installation. It is now running Windows XP. I use it with my old scanner that does not have drivers for Vista. I can't upgrade the laptop to Vista as it doesn't have enough ram for one thing (max is 64 + 128 MB for a total of 192 MB). "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message news:UXF4k.8388$Jx.3194@pd7urf1no... > > "Milt" <netrage@nospammiltsweb.com> wrote in message > news:485326a2$0$5704$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote: >>> So help save Windows XP >>> >> >> Save it? Its not going anywhere, you will still be able to use it for >> years to come. Heck, you could still use Windows 3.1 if you wanted to, no >> one is stopping you. Same with Windows 2000, NT, 98, ME, 95.... > > You can in so long as your PC already has it and it does not crap out. > Most PCs are not designed to last 10+ years. (assuming your XP is original > and a patch does not blow it up). >
Guest Ezekiel Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in message news:1497069.Lp6T5hALED@schestowitz.com... > > They enable upgrades to XP now, provided that you 'upgrade' your Vista > (edition-wise). Another fine example of double-dipping to game sales > statistics and milk innocent users, who can -- and probably will -- pay > extra > for XP. More proof that Roy Schestowitz is either a clueless idiot or a immoral liar. You have absolutely zero idea what you're talking about. You my lying little unemployed loser, are a total idiot. -- "They enable upgrades to XP now, provided that you 'upgrade' your Vista (edition-wise)." So your claim is that if I have a computer and want to run XP then Microsoft will (somehow through magic) force me to buy Vista first, and only then I can buy and install XP? Are you really this stupid? Perhaps a more accurate and far more honest explanation is that Microsoft usually does "site licenses" with it's large customers. And customers who upgraded their site license to Windows Vista are not prohibited from installing/running XP on machines even though the current license is for Vista. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Guest David Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: So help save Windows XP Re: So help save Windows XP On Jun 14, 5:04 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote: > On Jun 13, 7:25 pm, David <mcdonald6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 13, 10:02 pm, Milt <netr...@nospammiltsweb.com> wrote: > > > > cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote: > > > > So help save Windows XP > > > > Save it? Its not going anywhere, you will still be able to use it for > > > years to come. Heck, you could still use Windows 3.1 if you wanted to, > > > no one is stopping you. Same with Windows 2000, NT, 98, ME, 95.... > > > Well, > > > let me spell it out. > > > say next year , you want to buy a nice new Shiny PC.. > > > but your choices will be either Vista ( search for Vista on Youtube ) > > > or something that might not be compatible with your work group, or > > require a" Windows MVP" to support it. > > > If Windows XP is available , pre installed on your new PC, > > > you're good to go. > > > Currently, with Vista, to get any sort of performance out of it, you > > have to figure out How to disable half of the system > > > just to get the same performance you currently get with Windows XP. > > > - and I say > > > Why force the computer illiterates of the world ( the rest of the > > Population) > > > through all this Hosre Siht. > > > Why, with Vista, they can't even get out to Yahoo Groups. > > > Having a " Vista Only " PC world is delegating many PC's of the world > > into fancy screen-saver endowed paperweights. > > > A Vista Only PC world will cripple normal commerce and industry. > > > And I say, > > > why put up with this Microsoft "Vista only " crap! > > > Just Worry, Cajole and Bullyrage Microsoft > > > into making Good old reliable Windows XP available for The > > Foreseeable Future.. > > > Thank You .. > > David, > > OK - Simple Question : Why not buy any new PC with Vista > installed on it; and Erase {Wipe Clean} the Hard Drive and > Install Window's XP on it ? > idtars ~ RHF > . Very complicated, very expensive. Most PC users have just about learned that the Cup Holder actually reads CD's. Asking them to re educate themselves about a complex, cumbersome OS is not practical or realistic. the only thing that they know is " Buy A Mac". " Buy A Mac". As for " Ubuntu" and "Linux " , they are either Countries in Africa or Rap Guys. Windows XP is a Nice, Safe, realiable OS that Should be an option when one goes out to buy a New PC. maybe..MAYBE.. Microsoft will stop pumping Apple by forcing crummy OS's on the computer illiterate. So Please, sign the petition then send it around to your friends. Maybe they'll listen http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/archives/2008/01/save_windows_xp.html
Guest Alias Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: So help save Windows XP Re: So help save Windows XP David wrote: > > As for " Ubuntu" and "Linux " , they are either Countries in Africa > or Rap Guys. How long have you been an ignorant racist? Alias
Guest Robin T Cox Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch cheley_bonstell88@live.com wrote: > XP Death Watch (Sob) I can hardly bear to look ... -- Facts are sacred ... but comment is free
Guest Linonut Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch * cheley_bonstell88@live.com peremptorily fired off this memo: > XP Death Watch http://www.bonestell.org/thebonestell.html This was Chesley's favorite cocktail, which he mixed for himself and for special guests-- The "Bonestell" 4 oz. California brandy (Korbel) 2 oz. White Italian vermouth (Cinzano Blanco) One lump of ice--to cool the drink, not to chill or dilute it Serve in 8-10 oz. glass One to a customer -- I really had a lot of dreams when I was a kid, and I think a great deal of that grew out of the fact that I had a chance to read a lot. -- Bill Gates
Guest David Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: XP Death Watch On Jun 14, 8:58 am, Linonut <lino...@bollsouth.nut> wrote: > * cheley_bonstel...@live.com peremptorily fired off this memo: > > > XP Death Watch > > http://www.bonestell.org/thebonestell.html > > This was Chesley's favorite cocktail, which he mixed for himself and > for special guests-- > > The "Bonestell" > > 4 oz. California brandy (Korbel) > > 2 oz. White Italian vermouth (Cinzano Blanco) > > One lump of ice--to cool the drink, not to chill or dilute it > > Serve in 8-10 oz. glass > > One to a customer > > -- > - Doubtless handed out by the Gallon with every copy of Microsoft Vista . . http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/archives/2008/01/save_windows_xp.html
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