Guest Terry Pinnell Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Just discovered that this XP Home PC is powering itself up when I touch the keyboard. Yet under Power Options I don't have anything set that should allow that. I've never used anything like Standby or Hibernate. I just want my PC to be plain OFF until I press the ON button. So I have 'When I press the power button on my computer' set to 'Shut down' FWIW, under the Hibernate tab all is greyed and the facility is not enabled. I did notice that there's another setting', 'When I press the sleep button on my computer:' which was set to 'Standby', but as I don't *have* a Sleep Button I don't see how that can be involved. Anne have any ideas on the cause please? -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK
Guest Spiderman Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: PC starting when KB used Is there an option for your keyboard in Device Manager to not "Wake the Computer"? "Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message news:0kt654tlp6q17egrav3qt7l1tek882a0sk@4ax.com... > Just discovered that this XP Home PC is powering itself up when I > touch the keyboard. Yet under Power Options I don't have anything set > that should allow that. I've never used anything like Standby or > Hibernate. I just want my PC to be plain OFF until I press the ON > button. > So I have 'When I press the power button on my computer' set to 'Shut > down' > > FWIW, under the Hibernate tab all is greyed and the facility is not > enabled. > > I did notice that there's another setting', 'When I press the sleep > button on my computer:' which was set to 'Standby', but as I don't > *have* a Sleep Button I don't see how that can be involved. > > Anne have any ideas on the cause please? > > -- > Terry, East Grinstead, UK >
Guest wisdomkiller & pain Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: PC starting when KB used Terry Pinnell wrote: > Just discovered that this XP Home PC is powering itself up when I > touch the keyboard. Yet under Power Options I don't have anything set > that should allow that. I've never used anything like Standby or > Hibernate. I just want my PC to be plain OFF until I press the ON > button. > So I have 'When I press the power button on my computer' set to 'Shut > down' > Since your pc is shut down it cannot be controlled by the OS at that state, because simply it's not running. Your PC, however, does supply standby power to the usb (you'll notice the LED on a optical mouse still lit even with a shutdowned pc), the keyboard - ps2 or usb - and most probably even the network card (onboard). Therefore - useful for corporate nightshiftly jobs - the machines may be (fully) powered up by wake-on-lan special packets anytime to perform nightly upgrades or whatever, without interrupting daily workflow. Now, to come to an end, your bios (available through a special key at poweron, most of the times DEL or F2 or F10 or ALT-ESC should do, depending upon brand and bios type) will have some energy and wake-up settings to modify behavior, or - if you want - wake up your pc every workday at 8am. For a home PC, the most simple and energy effective solution is to get a simple cheap powerbar with a switch. You can connect all the little powerbricks, the monitor and your PC to it, and turn it off at evening. No standby current anymore, saves you lot of energy bill and even may protect your equipment from occasional surges/spikes.
Guest V Green Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: PC starting when KB used "Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message news:0kt654tlp6q17egrav3qt7l1tek882a0sk@4ax.com... > Just discovered that this XP Home PC is powering itself up when I > touch the keyboard. Yet under Power Options I don't have anything set > that should allow that. I've never used anything like Standby or > Hibernate. I just want my PC to be plain OFF until I press the ON > button. > So I have 'When I press the power button on my computer' set to 'Shut > down' > > FWIW, under the Hibernate tab all is greyed and the facility is not > enabled. > > I did notice that there's another setting', 'When I press the sleep > button on my computer:' which was set to 'Standby', but as I don't > *have* a Sleep Button I don't see how that can be involved. > > Anne have any ideas on the cause please? Check BIOS for possible enable/disable. > > -- > Terry, East Grinstead, UK >
Guest Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: PC starting when KB used Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote: >Just discovered that this XP Home PC is powering itself up when I >touch the keyboard. Yet under Power Options I don't have anything set >that should allow that. I've never used anything like Standby or >Hibernate. I just want my PC to be plain OFF until I press the ON >button. >So I have 'When I press the power button on my computer' set to 'Shut >down' > >FWIW, under the Hibernate tab all is greyed and the facility is not >enabled. > >I did notice that there's another setting', 'When I press the sleep >button on my computer:' which was set to 'Standby', but as I don't >*have* a Sleep Button I don't see how that can be involved. > >Anne have any ideas on the cause please? Check your options in your bios, there is a key (I don't know what one) that can start windows. Never done this one, just something I read well before I started using XP. -- Forbidden http://img.skitch.com/20080614-ra41s6rberibgxgmf6y9w8pa76.jpg
Guest Buffalo Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Re: PC starting when KB used Meat Plow wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:53:55 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote: > >> Just discovered that this XP Home PC is powering itself up when I >> touch the keyboard. Yet under Power Options I don't have anything >> set that should allow that. I've never used anything like Standby or >> Hibernate. I just want my PC to be plain OFF until I press the ON >> button. >> So I have 'When I press the power button on my computer' set to 'Shut >> down' >> >> FWIW, under the Hibernate tab all is greyed and the facility is not >> enabled. >> >> I did notice that there's another setting', 'When I press the sleep >> button on my computer:' which was set to 'Standby', but as I don't >> *have* a Sleep Button I don't see how that can be involved. >> >> Anne have any ideas on the cause please? > > Never heard of a BIOS option to wake a pc via a keyboard touch. > Are you sure the PC is not being suspended instead of powered off? On my MB (K7S5a) it is called "Keyboard Power On Function" and it is located in the Power Management Setup section of the BIOS. Also, I would have to enable a jumper on the MB and select the function above. You also must have an ATX Power Supply.
Guest Terry Pinnell Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Re: PC starting when KB used Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov wrote: > Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote: > >>Just discovered that this XP Home PC is powering itself up when I >>touch the keyboard. Yet under Power Options I don't have anything set >>that should allow that. I've never used anything like Standby or >>Hibernate. I just want my PC to be plain OFF until I press the ON >>button. >>So I have 'When I press the power button on my computer' set to 'Shut >>down' >> >>FWIW, under the Hibernate tab all is greyed and the facility is not >>enabled. >> >>I did notice that there's another setting', 'When I press the sleep >>button on my computer:' which was set to 'Standby', but as I don't >>*have* a Sleep Button I don't see how that can be involved. >> >>Anne have any ideas on the cause please? > > >Check your options in your bios, there is a key (I don't know what >one) that can start windows. > >Never done this one, just something I read well before I started using >XP. Thanks all. No Keyboard option in Device Mgr (unlike my new PC with its wireless K/B). But happy to say that BIOS did provide an option; it was set to Space, now changed to Disabled. -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK
Guest Terry Pinnell Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 Re: PC starting when KB used Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov wrote: > chuckcar <chuck@nil.car> wrote: > > >I'm not stalking I swear > >>> So I have 'When I press the power button on my computer' set to 'Shut >>> down' > >>No, that turns off the computer without shutting down properly, which >>causes corruption. > >This is how I turn off my computer for the night, push the power >button and walk away I'm confused. Are you saying that the setting "Shut Down" in Power Options > Advanced > Power Buttons actually initiates a proper shut-down sequence, just like Start > Turn Off Computer > Turn Off? I've always assumed it was simply an electrical disconnection, with obvious warnings against doing so. If it is indeed an OK method, what about saving the registry, open files etc - do those default to being unceremoniously closed first? Last time I used the power off button on either my old XP Home PC or this new XP Pro system I'm sure it removed power immediately, in which case there would be no time for such niceties. Re turning off at night, I'm curious to know what proportion of users leave their PCs powered on permanently, with drives spinning, as I do? Apart from the arguable issue of which is best in terms of wear, and I suppose the topical issue of energy-saving, I like to get all my backups and defragging done when I'm not using the PC. -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK
Guest PD43 Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 Re: PC starting when KB used Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote: >Re turning off at night, I'm curious to know what proportion of users >leave their PCs powered on permanently, with drives spinning, as I do? >Apart from the arguable issue of which is best in terms of wear, and I >suppose the topical issue of energy-saving, I like to get all my >backups and defragging done when I'm not using the PC. Same here. Even if/when I don't have anything like that scheduled, I leave my system on 24x7. Always have. I only shut the monitor off. There used to be heated arguments as to which was best for system components - running 24x7 or shutting down - and neither side won those arguments.
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