Winodws XP

[Guest Ivan]

I have one IBM notebook X40 and there is some strange happened.

 

It has installed Windows XP with SP2 . But now sometimes the keyboard does

not has any repsonse and I need to physical shut it down.

 

Does anyone has any idea? What do i need to check? Is it hardware or

Windows XP problems?

 

Ivan

[Guest SteveL]

RE: Winodws XP

 

Check to see if you need any updates from IBM: BIOS, HD Firmware update,

keyboard and so forth. Choose the correct country if not in the USA.

 

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-54078

 

"Ivan" wrote:

> I have one IBM notebook X40 and there is some strange happened.

>

> It has installed Windows XP with SP2 . But now sometimes the keyboard does

> not has any repsonse and I need to physical shut it down.

>

> Does anyone has any idea? What do i need to check? Is it hardware or

> Windows XP problems?

>

> Ivan

[Guest Ivan]

RE: Winodws XP

 

I have checked it out in the IBM website and seems that nothing is related to

the keyboard dirver.

 

Does anybody has other suggestion for the notebook keyboard not responding

 

Ivan

 

"SteveL" wrote:

> Check to see if you need any updates from IBM: BIOS, HD Firmware update,

> keyboard and so forth. Choose the correct country if not in the USA.

>

> http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-54078

>

> "Ivan" wrote:

>

> > I have one IBM notebook X40 and there is some strange happened.

> >

> > It has installed Windows XP with SP2 . But now sometimes the keyboard does

> > not has any repsonse and I need to physical shut it down.

> >

> > Does anyone has any idea? What do i need to check? Is it hardware or

> > Windows XP problems?

> >

> > Ivan

[Guest SteveL]

RE: Winodws XP

 

So you are telling me that the BIOS has nothing to do with the keyboard.. OK

well good luck.

 

"Ivan" wrote:

> I have checked it out in the IBM website and seems that nothing is related to

> the keyboard dirver.

>

> Does anybody has other suggestion for the notebook keyboard not responding

>

> Ivan

>

> "SteveL" wrote:

>

> > Check to see if you need any updates from IBM: BIOS, HD Firmware update,

> > keyboard and so forth. Choose the correct country if not in the USA.

> >

> > http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-54078

> >

> > "Ivan" wrote:

> >

> > > I have one IBM notebook X40 and there is some strange happened.

> > >

> > > It has installed Windows XP with SP2 . But now sometimes the keyboard does

> > > not has any repsonse and I need to physical shut it down.

> > >

> > > Does anyone has any idea? What do i need to check? Is it hardware or

> > > Windows XP problems?

> > >

> > > Ivan

[Guest Patrick Keenan]

Re: Winodws XP

 

"Ivan" <Ivan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:534C1085-1936-44DC-BE0E-075910A3B4A9@microsoft.com...

>I have one IBM notebook X40 and there is some strange happened.

>

> It has installed Windows XP with SP2 . But now sometimes the keyboard

> does

> not has any repsonse and I need to physical shut it down.

>

> Does anyone has any idea? What do i need to check? Is it hardware or

> Windows XP problems?

>

> Ivan

 

It's likely hardware. You'll need to contact Lenovo for service.

 

You can test by using a Linux live boot CD, which will not affect the

installed OS. If the problem manifests there too, it has nothing

whatsoever to do with the OS.

 

HTH

-pk

[Guest 4PeaceMirelle]

Re: Winodws XP

 

On Jun 17, 8:28 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:

Mr. Keenan, I was reading on the net that you are a philanthropist, as

is your wife.

How do you reconcile giving millions to charity and defending a

terrorist state that has put the Palestinians in the largest open air

prison in world - Gaza, cut off food and fuel supplies, etc.

Collective punishment is not permitted by the Geneva Convention and

all other bodies of International law.

As a philanthropist, I would hope that you give those millions a year

out of seeing the need for donations due to seeing the suffering, and

by donating you are acting from the conviction that if a person is

able to alleviate suffering financially to do so. I would hope it is

not done to social climb and hop nob with the "haves" and "have

mores".

BTW, tell your wife to stop with the Botox already, aging is natural.

Botox is embarrassing to look at on a person's face, although the

person is not aware that people find it so. Usually, people feel sorry

for the person for resorting to Botox.

 

http://chitchatzionist.livejournal.com/

 

Mirelle

> "Ivan" <I...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>

> news:534C1085-1936-44DC-BE0E-075910A3B4A9@microsoft.com...

>

> >I have one IBM notebook X40 and there is some strange happened.

>

> > It has installed Windows XP with SP2 .  But now sometimes the keyboard

> > does

> > not has any repsonse and I need to physical shut it down.

>

> > Does anyone has any idea?  What do i need to check?  Is it hardware or

> > Windows XP problems?

>

> > Ivan

>

> It's likely hardware.  You'll need to contact Lenovo for service.

>

> You can test by using a Linux live boot CD, which will not affect the

> installed OS.   If the problem manifests there too, it has nothing

> whatsoever to do with the OS.

>

> HTH

> -pk

[Guest Alan]

Re: Winodws XP

 

Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here?

 

Alan

 

"4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:7017d46b-cac9-427c-bbc0-498b448f96c7@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com...

On Jun 17, 8:28 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:

Mr. Keenan, I was reading on the net that you are a philanthropist, as

is your wife.

How do you reconcile giving millions to charity and defending a

terrorist state that has put the Palestinians in the largest open air

prison in world - Gaza, cut off food and fuel supplies, etc.

Collective punishment is not permitted by the Geneva Convention and

all other bodies of International law.

As a philanthropist, I would hope that you give those millions a year

out of seeing the need for donations due to seeing the suffering, and

by donating you are acting from the conviction that if a person is

able to alleviate suffering financially to do so. I would hope it is

not done to social climb and hop nob with the "haves" and "have

mores".

BTW, tell your wife to stop with the Botox already, aging is natural.

Botox is embarrassing to look at on a person's face, although the

person is not aware that people find it so. Usually, people feel sorry

for the person for resorting to Botox.

 

http://chitchatzionist.livejournal.com/

 

Mirelle

> "Ivan" <I...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>

> news:534C1085-1936-44DC-BE0E-075910A3B4A9@microsoft.com...

>

> >I have one IBM notebook X40 and there is some strange happened.

>

> > It has installed Windows XP with SP2 . But now sometimes the keyboard

> > does

> > not has any repsonse and I need to physical shut it down.

>

> > Does anyone has any idea? What do i need to check? Is it hardware or

> > Windows XP problems?

>

> > Ivan

>

> It's likely hardware. You'll need to contact Lenovo for service.

>

> You can test by using a Linux live boot CD, which will not affect the

> installed OS. If the problem manifests there too, it has nothing

> whatsoever to do with the OS.

>

> HTH

> -pk

[Guest cheley_bonstell88@live.com]

Re: Winodws XP

 

On Jun 17, 10:15 am, Ivan <I...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I have checked it out in the IBM website and seems that nothing is related to

> the keyboard dirver.

>

> Does anybody has other suggestion for the notebook keyboard not responding

>

> Ivan

>

> "SteveL" wrote:

> > Check to see if you need any updates from IBM: BIOS, HD Firmware update,

> > keyboard and so forth. Choose the correct country if not in the USA.

>

> >http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=leno....

>

> > "Ivan" wrote:

>

> > > I have one IBM notebook X40 and there is some strange happened.

>

> > > It has installed Windows XP with SP2 .  But now sometimes the keyboard does

> > > not has any repsonse and I need to physical shut it down.  

>

> > > Does anyone has any idea?  What do i need to check?  Is it hardware or

> > > Windows XP problems?

>

> > > Ivan

 

See if it works with another keyboard plugged in the back

 

If it does, it's Hardware..

[Guest Bob I]

Re: Winodws XP

 

Same reason every other OT posting is here, it's an unmoderated public

newsgroup.

 

Alan wrote:

> Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here?

>

> Alan

>

> "4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message

[Guest Alan]

Re: Winodws XP

 

Well, this public newsgroup is moderated enough such that posts from 'Alias'

are deleted almost as soon as they are posted.

 

Alias REALLY must have pissed someone at Microsoft off for them to be doing

that.

 

Alan

 

"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:%2319LxDU0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Same reason every other OT posting is here, it's an unmoderated public

> newsgroup.

>

> Alan wrote:

>

>> Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here?

>>

>> Alan

>>

>> "4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

[Guest Daave]

Re: Winodws XP

 

If this were a moderated newsgroup, those posts would never appear in

the first place.

 

Alan wrote:

> Well, this public newsgroup is moderated enough such that posts from

> 'Alias' are deleted almost as soon as they are posted.

>

> Alias REALLY must have pissed someone at Microsoft off for them to be

> doing that.

>

> Alan

>

> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:%2319LxDU0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Same reason every other OT posting is here, it's an unmoderated

>> public newsgroup.

>>

>> Alan wrote:

>>

>>> Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here?

>>>

>>> Alan

>>>

>>> "4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: Winodws XP

 

So then tell us, who do you think is removing the posts (on the MS server)?

 

John

 

Daave wrote:

> If this were a moderated newsgroup, those posts would never appear in

> the first place.

>

> Alan wrote:

>

>>Well, this public newsgroup is moderated enough such that posts from

>>'Alias' are deleted almost as soon as they are posted.

>>

>>Alias REALLY must have pissed someone at Microsoft off for them to be

>>doing that.

>>

>> Alan

>>

>>"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>news:%2319LxDU0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>>>Same reason every other OT posting is here, it's an unmoderated

>>>public newsgroup.

>>>

>>>Alan wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here?

>>>>

>>>> Alan

>>>>

>>>>"4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

>

>

[Guest Daave]

Re: Winodws XP

 

Surely someone from Microsoft is removing the posts. But that doesn't

make this a moderated newsgroup (strictly speaking). Posts on moderated

newsgroups do not show up immediately. They are *all* reviewed first.

That is why 4PeaceMirelle's silly post showed up (because this is not a

moderated newsgroup). And that is why Alias's posts show up (and

propagate and get archived on Google, etc., even if they are removed

from the MS news server shortly after they are posted). If this group

were moderated (again, in the generally accepted Usenet sense of the

term), Alias's posts (and presumably 4PeaceMirelle's claptrap) would not

show up in the first place and would therefore not propagate.

 

John John (MVP) wrote:

> So then tell us, who do you think is removing the posts (on the MS

> server)?

> John

>

> Daave wrote:

>

>> If this were a moderated newsgroup, those posts would never appear in

>> the first place.

>>

>> Alan wrote:

>>

>>> Well, this public newsgroup is moderated enough such that posts from

>>> 'Alias' are deleted almost as soon as they are posted.

>>>

>>> Alias REALLY must have pissed someone at Microsoft off for them to

>>> be doing that.

>>>

>>> Alan

>>>

>>> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%2319LxDU0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>> Same reason every other OT posting is here, it's an unmoderated

>>>> public newsgroup.

>>>>

>>>> Alan wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here?

>>>>>

>>>>> Alan

>>>>>

>>>>> "4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message

[Guest Alan]

Re: Winodws XP

 

Hi John,

 

Exactly.

 

I DO manage to see most of Alias' posts when I access these Microsoft groups

from my Supernews account.

 

Alan

 

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

news:uf0LcBW0IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> So then tell us, who do you think is removing the posts (on the MS

> server)?

>

> John

>

> Daave wrote:

>

>> If this were a moderated newsgroup, those posts would never appear in the

>> first place.

>>

>> Alan wrote:

>>

>>>Well, this public newsgroup is moderated enough such that posts from

>>>'Alias' are deleted almost as soon as they are posted.

>>>

>>>Alias REALLY must have pissed someone at Microsoft off for them to be

>>>doing that.

>>>

>>> Alan

>>>

>>>"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>>news:%2319LxDU0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>>Same reason every other OT posting is here, it's an unmoderated

>>>>public newsgroup.

>>>>

>>>>Alan wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here?

>>>>>

>>>>> Alan

>>>>>

>>>>>"4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>

>>

>>

>

[Guest Alan]

Re: Winodws XP

 

Hi Daave,

 

Yes, you're right. In the strict, Usenet sense of the term, these are NOT

moderated groups.

 

Still, the effect is pretty much the same for those users who don't realize

that these Microsoft groups are available via servers other than those

controlled by Microsoft.

 

But, someone from Microsoft clearly has some sort of huge grudge against

Alias.

 

Alan

 

"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

news:OIHUKKW0IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Surely someone from Microsoft is removing the posts. But that doesn't make

> this a moderated newsgroup (strictly speaking). Posts on moderated

> newsgroups do not show up immediately. They are *all* reviewed first. That

> is why 4PeaceMirelle's silly post showed up (because this is not a

> moderated newsgroup). And that is why Alias's posts show up (and propagate

> and get archived on Google, etc., even if they are removed from the MS

> news server shortly after they are posted). If this group were moderated

> (again, in the generally accepted Usenet sense of the term), Alias's posts

> (and presumably 4PeaceMirelle's claptrap) would not show up in the first

> place and would therefore not propagate.

>

> John John (MVP) wrote:

>> So then tell us, who do you think is removing the posts (on the MS

>> server)?

>> John

>>

>> Daave wrote:

>>

>>> If this were a moderated newsgroup, those posts would never appear in

>>> the first place.

>>>

>>> Alan wrote:

>>>

>>>> Well, this public newsgroup is moderated enough such that posts from

>>>> 'Alias' are deleted almost as soon as they are posted.

>>>>

>>>> Alias REALLY must have pissed someone at Microsoft off for them to

>>>> be doing that.

>>>>

>>>> Alan

>>>>

>>>> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:%2319LxDU0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>> Same reason every other OT posting is here, it's an unmoderated

>>>>> public newsgroup.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alan wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alan

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: Winodws XP

 

It may not be moderated (strictly speaking) but there are posts that

don't ever make it to the groups, they are filtered by contents or

poster name/origin before they make it to the group servers.

 

John

 

Daave wrote:

> Surely someone from Microsoft is removing the posts. But that doesn't

> make this a moderated newsgroup (strictly speaking). Posts on moderated

> newsgroups do not show up immediately. They are *all* reviewed first.

> That is why 4PeaceMirelle's silly post showed up (because this is not a

> moderated newsgroup). And that is why Alias's posts show up (and

> propagate and get archived on Google, etc., even if they are removed

> from the MS news server shortly after they are posted). If this group

> were moderated (again, in the generally accepted Usenet sense of the

> term), Alias's posts (and presumably 4PeaceMirelle's claptrap) would not

> show up in the first place and would therefore not propagate.

>

> John John (MVP) wrote:

>

>>So then tell us, who do you think is removing the posts (on the MS

>>server)?

>>John

>>

>>Daave wrote:

>>

>>

>>>If this were a moderated newsgroup, those posts would never appear in

>>>the first place.

>>>

>>>Alan wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>Well, this public newsgroup is moderated enough such that posts from

>>>>'Alias' are deleted almost as soon as they are posted.

>>>>

>>>>Alias REALLY must have pissed someone at Microsoft off for them to

>>>>be doing that.

>>>>

>>>> Alan

>>>>

>>>>"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>>>news:%2319LxDU0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Same reason every other OT posting is here, it's an unmoderated

>>>>>public newsgroup.

>>>>>

>>>>>Alan wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alan

>>>>>>

>>>>>>"4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

>

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: Winodws XP

 

I don't think it's a grudge against him as such, it's more that some of

the subjects that he raises are obviously pretty touchy for someone at

Microsoft, they don't like certain things being talked about on their

servers.

 

John

 

Alan wrote:

> Hi Daave,

>

> Yes, you're right. In the strict, Usenet sense of the term, these are NOT

> moderated groups.

>

> Still, the effect is pretty much the same for those users who don't realize

> that these Microsoft groups are available via servers other than those

> controlled by Microsoft.

>

> But, someone from Microsoft clearly has some sort of huge grudge against

> Alias.

>

> Alan

>

> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

> news:OIHUKKW0IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>

>>Surely someone from Microsoft is removing the posts. But that doesn't make

>>this a moderated newsgroup (strictly speaking). Posts on moderated

>>newsgroups do not show up immediately. They are *all* reviewed first. That

>>is why 4PeaceMirelle's silly post showed up (because this is not a

>>moderated newsgroup). And that is why Alias's posts show up (and propagate

>>and get archived on Google, etc., even if they are removed from the MS

>>news server shortly after they are posted). If this group were moderated

>>(again, in the generally accepted Usenet sense of the term), Alias's posts

>>(and presumably 4PeaceMirelle's claptrap) would not show up in the first

>>place and would therefore not propagate.

>>

>>John John (MVP) wrote:

>>

>>>So then tell us, who do you think is removing the posts (on the MS

>>>server)?

>>>John

>>>

>>>Daave wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>If this were a moderated newsgroup, those posts would never appear in

>>>>the first place.

>>>>

>>>>Alan wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Well, this public newsgroup is moderated enough such that posts from

>>>>>'Alias' are deleted almost as soon as they are posted.

>>>>>

>>>>>Alias REALLY must have pissed someone at Microsoft off for them to

>>>>>be doing that.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alan

>>>>>

>>>>>"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>>>>news:%2319LxDU0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Same reason every other OT posting is here, it's an unmoderated

>>>>>>public newsgroup.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Alan wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alan

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>"4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest Ron Badour]

Re: Winodws XP

 

I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never seen nor

heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely because there

were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request

of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam,

contain excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain

dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously and does not

arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of MS. With that

said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what might

be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being removed. I would

also be willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she

removed a post because of a grudge.

--

Regards

 

Ron Badour

MS MVP 1997 - 2008

 

 

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

news:%23maMKZW0IHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>I don't think it's a grudge against him as such, it's more that some of the

>subjects that he raises are obviously pretty touchy for someone at

>Microsoft, they don't like certain things being talked about on their

>servers.

>

> John

>

> Alan wrote:

>

>> Hi Daave,

>>

>> Yes, you're right. In the strict, Usenet sense of the term, these are NOT

>> moderated groups.

>>

>> Still, the effect is pretty much the same for those users who don't

>> realize that these Microsoft groups are available via servers other than

>> those controlled by Microsoft.

>>

>> But, someone from Microsoft clearly has some sort of huge grudge against

>> Alias.

>>

>> Alan

>>

>> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:OIHUKKW0IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>

>>>Surely someone from Microsoft is removing the posts. But that doesn't

>>>make this a moderated newsgroup (strictly speaking). Posts on moderated

>>>newsgroups do not show up immediately. They are *all* reviewed first.

>>>That is why 4PeaceMirelle's silly post showed up (because this is not a

>>>moderated newsgroup). And that is why Alias's posts show up (and

>>>propagate and get archived on Google, etc., even if they are removed from

>>>the MS news server shortly after they are posted). If this group were

>>>moderated (again, in the generally accepted Usenet sense of the term),

>>>Alias's posts (and presumably 4PeaceMirelle's claptrap) would not show up

>>>in the first place and would therefore not propagate.

>>>

>>>John John (MVP) wrote:

>>>

>>>>So then tell us, who do you think is removing the posts (on the MS

>>>>server)?

>>>>John

>>>>

>>>>Daave wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>If this were a moderated newsgroup, those posts would never appear in

>>>>>the first place.

>>>>>

>>>>>Alan wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Well, this public newsgroup is moderated enough such that posts from

>>>>>>'Alias' are deleted almost as soon as they are posted.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Alias REALLY must have pissed someone at Microsoft off for them to

>>>>>>be doing that.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alan

>>>>>>

>>>>>>"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>news:%2319LxDU0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Same reason every other OT posting is here, it's an unmoderated

>>>>>>>public newsgroup.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Alan wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alan

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>"4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: Windodws XP

 

Re: Windodws XP

 

It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from making it

to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems like reason

enough to block posts! I guess the conversation is now over because I

can no longer express my opinion about the subject!

 

John

 

Ron Badour wrote:

> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never seen nor

> heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely because there

> were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request

> of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam,

> contain excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain

> dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously and does not

> arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of MS. With that

> said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what might

> be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being removed. I would

> also be willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she

> removed a post because of a grudge.

[Guest Bob I]

Re: Windodws XP

 

Re: Windodws XP

 

How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon?

 

John John (MVP) wrote:

> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from making it

> to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems like reason

> enough to block posts! I guess the conversation is now over because I

> can no longer express my opinion about the subject!

>

> John

>

> Ron Badour wrote:

>

>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never

>> seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely

>> because there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are

>> removed upon the request of the poster if there is a valid reason, if

>> they contain blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have any

>> reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes

>> freedom of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts

>> just because they are critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall

>> seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what might be objectionable

>> in his posts if they are indeed being removed. I would also be

>> willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she

>> removed a post because of a grudge.

>

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: Windowds XP

 

Re: Windowds XP

 

No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has appeared yet

the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. I tried to post the

same post again with my answer to Ron but the post hasn't been posted.

 

John

 

Bob I wrote:

> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon?

>

> John John (MVP) wrote:

>

>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from making

>> it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems like reason

>> enough to block posts! I guess the conversation is now over because I

>> can no longer express my opinion about the subject!

>>

>> John

>>

>> Ron Badour wrote:

>>

>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never

>>> seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely

>>> because there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are

>>> removed upon the request of the poster if there is a valid reason, if

>>> they contain blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have any

>>> reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes

>>> freedom of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove

>>> posts just because they are critical of MS. With that said, I don't

>>> recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what might be

>>> objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being removed. I would

>>> also be willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS if

>>> he/she removed a post because of a grudge.

>>

>>

>>

>

[Guest Bob I]

Re: Windowds XP

 

Re: Windowds XP

 

Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, 12:11, 14:22

and this one at 14:48..

 

John John (MVP) wrote:

> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has appeared yet

> the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. I tried to post the

> same post again with my answer to Ron but the post hasn't been posted.

>

> John

>

> Bob I wrote:

>

>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon?

>>

>> John John (MVP) wrote:

>>

>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from making

>>> it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems like

>>> reason enough to block posts! I guess the conversation is now over

>>> because I can no longer express my opinion about the subject!

>>>

>>> John

>>>

>>> Ron Badour wrote:

>>>

>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never

>>>> seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely

>>>> because there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are

>>>> removed upon the request of the poster if there is a valid reason,

>>>> if they contain blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have any

>>>> reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes

>>>> freedom of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove

>>>> posts just because they are critical of MS. With that said, I don't

>>>> recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what might be

>>>> objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being removed. I

>>>> would also be willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at

>>>> MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: Windowds XP

 

Re: Windowds XP

 

There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my 14:22

post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same message and

another (new) one with slightly altered contents and the posts aren't

showing.

 

John

 

Bob I wrote:

> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, 12:11, 14:22

> and this one at 14:48..

>

> John John (MVP) wrote:

>

>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has appeared

>> yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. I tried to

>> post the same post again with my answer to Ron but the post hasn't

>> been posted.

>>

>> John

>>

>> Bob I wrote:

>>

>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon?

>>>

>>> John John (MVP) wrote:

>>>

>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from

>>>> making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems

>>>> like reason enough to block posts! I guess the conversation is now

>>>> over because I can no longer express my opinion about the subject!

>>>>

>>>> John

>>>>

>>>> Ron Badour wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never

>>>>> seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely

>>>>> because there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are

>>>>> removed upon the request of the poster if there is a valid reason,

>>>>> if they contain blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have any

>>>>> reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes

>>>>> freedom of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove

>>>>> posts just because they are critical of MS. With that said, I

>>>>> don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what might

>>>>> be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being removed. I

>>>>> would also be willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job

>>>>> at MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

[Guest Bob I]

Re: Windowds XP

 

Re: Windowds XP

 

perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word?

 

John John (MVP) wrote:

> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my 14:22

> post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same message and

> another (new) one with slightly altered contents and the posts aren't

> showing.

>

> John

>

> Bob I wrote:

>

>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, 12:11,

>> 14:22 and this one at 14:48..

>>

>> John John (MVP) wrote:

>>

>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has appeared

>>> yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. I tried to

>>> post the same post again with my answer to Ron but the post hasn't

>>> been posted.

>>>

>>> John

>>>

>>> Bob I wrote:

>>>

>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon?

>>>>

>>>> John John (MVP) wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from

>>>>> making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems

>>>>> like reason enough to block posts! I guess the conversation is now

>>>>> over because I can no longer express my opinion about the subject!

>>>>>

>>>>> John

>>>>>

>>>>> Ron Badour wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have

>>>>>> never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server

>>>>>> merely because there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts

>>>>>> are removed upon the request of the poster if there is a valid

>>>>>> reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain excessive profanity,

>>>>>> have any reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS

>>>>>> takes freedom of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily

>>>>>> remove posts just because they are critical of MS. With that

>>>>>> said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know

>>>>>> what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being

>>>>>> removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person could lose

>>>>>> his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

[Guest Daave]

Re: Winodws XP

 

"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message

news:e9$ohqW0IHA.5516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never

>seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely

>because there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed

>upon the request of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they

>contain blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference

>to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech

>very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because they

>are critical of MS.

 

You forgot one category:

 

Someone advocating the transfer of an OEM license from one PC to another

PC and instucting others how to do so. That's the only thing I can think

of that Ay-lee-uss posts that MS would find objectionable, so although

MS may take freedom of speech seriously, they draw the line at a point

where therir EULA can be circumvented if an unethical person chooses to

do so. Then again, Ay-lee-uss has been very vocal in his belief that the

EULA itself is "unconscionable." An interesting assertion, but when push

comes to shove, he can't logically argue the point:

 

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/43b3f6e406487f9c?hl=en

 

Notice that Ay-lee-uss never responded. (Or if he did, the message never

propagated.) PD43/Grumpy made an interesting point. But I still believe

that as long as the purchaser decides against installing the OS after

reading the EULA (but obviously after breaking the shrink wrap), he or

she *is* legally entitled to a full refund. But again, I defer to any

attorneys who may be reading this thread.