Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. John Bob I wrote: > perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? > > John John (MVP) wrote: > >> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my 14:22 >> post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same message and >> another (new) one with slightly altered contents and the posts aren't >> showing. >> >> John >> >> Bob I wrote: >> >>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, 12:11, >>> 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>> >>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>> >>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has appeared >>>> yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. I tried to >>>> post the same post again with my answer to Ron but the post hasn't >>>> been posted. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>> >>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from >>>>>> making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems >>>>>> like reason enough to block posts! I guess the conversation is >>>>>> now over because I can no longer express my opinion about the >>>>>> subject! >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have >>>>>>> never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS >>>>>>> server merely because there were discussions of or rants about >>>>>>> MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the poster if there is >>>>>>> a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain excessive >>>>>>> profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain dangerous >>>>>>> info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously and does >>>>>>> not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of >>>>>>> MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so >>>>>>> I don't know what might be objectionable in his posts if they are >>>>>>> indeed being removed. I would also be willing to bet that a >>>>>>> person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post >>>>>>> because of a grudge. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. John John (MVP) wrote: > Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in > another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I will > post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. > > John > > Bob I wrote: > >> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >> >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my 14:22 >>> post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same message and >>> another (new) one with slightly altered contents and the posts aren't >>> showing. >>> >>> John >>> >>> Bob I wrote: >>> >>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, 12:11, >>>> 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>> >>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. I >>>>> tried to post the same post again with my answer to Ron but the >>>>> post hasn't been posted. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>> >>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from >>>>>>> making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems >>>>>>> like reason enough to block posts! I guess the conversation is >>>>>>> now over because I can no longer express my opinion about the >>>>>>> subject! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have >>>>>>>> never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS >>>>>>>> server merely because there were discussions of or rants about >>>>>>>> MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the poster if there >>>>>>>> is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain >>>>>>>> excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain >>>>>>>> dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously >>>>>>>> and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are >>>>>>>> critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts >>>>>>>> made by Alias so I don't know what might be objectionable in his >>>>>>>> posts if they are indeed being removed. I would also be willing >>>>>>>> to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she >>>>>>>> removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>
Guest Bob I Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and then you would know what tripped the "filter". John John (MVP) wrote: > I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... There > is something in the post that someone doesn't like. > > John John (MVP) wrote: > >> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >> another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I will >> post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >> >> John >> >> Bob I wrote: >> >>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>> >>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>> >>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my 14:22 >>>> post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same message >>>> and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and the posts >>>> aren't showing. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, 12:11, >>>>> 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>> >>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. >>>>>> I tried to post the same post again with my answer to Ron but the >>>>>> post hasn't been posted. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from >>>>>>>> making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name >>>>>>>> seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>> conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>> opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have >>>>>>>>> never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS >>>>>>>>> server merely because there were discussions of or rants about >>>>>>>>> MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the poster if there >>>>>>>>> is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain >>>>>>>>> excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain >>>>>>>>> dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously >>>>>>>>> and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are >>>>>>>>> critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts >>>>>>>>> made by Alias so I don't know what might be objectionable in >>>>>>>>> his posts if they are indeed being removed. I would also be >>>>>>>>> willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS if >>>>>>>>> he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made it on to their servers, under another account with just my short "John" name. http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d (Look for post #27) The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the powers that be somewhere out there... John Bob I wrote: > You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and > then you would know what tripped the "filter". > > John John (MVP) wrote: > >> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >> There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >> >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>> another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I will >>> post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>> >>> John >>> >>> Bob I wrote: >>> >>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>> >>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>> 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>> message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>> the posts aren't showing. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, 12:11, >>>>>> 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>> >>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. >>>>>>> I tried to post the same post again with my answer to Ron but the >>>>>>> post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from >>>>>>>>> making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name >>>>>>>>> seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>> conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>> opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have >>>>>>>>>> never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS >>>>>>>>>> server merely because there were discussions of or rants about >>>>>>>>>> MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the poster if there >>>>>>>>>> is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain >>>>>>>>>> excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain >>>>>>>>>> dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very >>>>>>>>>> seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because >>>>>>>>>> they are critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall >>>>>>>>>> seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what might be >>>>>>>>>> objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being removed. >>>>>>>>>> I would also be willing to bet that a person could lose >>>>>>>>>> his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >
Guest Ron Badour Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windodws XP Re: Windodws XP John Something else is going on as my reply to you had Alias in it and it made it to the thread. Let's see if this one makes it--ALIAS, alias, Alias. By the way, I post directly to the MS Server (msnews.microsoft.com) using Outlook Express -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2008 "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:uAjrhiX0IHA.3920@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from making it > to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems like reason enough > to block posts! I guess the conversation is now over because I can no > longer express my opinion about the subject! > > John > > Ron Badour wrote: > >> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never seen >> nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely because >> there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the >> request of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant >> spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could >> contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously >> and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of >> MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't >> know what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being >> removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person could lose his/her >> job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >
Guest Daave Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post > must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was > replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made > it on to their servers, under another account with just my short > "John" name. > > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d > > (Look for post #27) > > The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the > powers that be somewhere out there... > > John > > Bob I wrote: > >> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >> then you would know what tripped the "filter". >> >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>> There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>> >>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>> >>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>> another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>> will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>> >>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>> 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>> message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>> the posts aren't showing. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>> hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>> Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>> from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>> name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>> conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>> opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>> have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off >>>>>>>>>>> a MS server merely because there were discussions of or >>>>>>>>>>> rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the >>>>>>>>>>> poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant >>>>>>>>>>> spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to >>>>>>>>>>> porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom >>>>>>>>>>> of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>> posts just because they are critical of MS. With that said, >>>>>>>>>>> I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know >>>>>>>>>>> what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed >>>>>>>>>>> being removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person >>>>>>>>>>> could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post >>>>>>>>>>> because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windodws XP Re: Windodws XP Yes, it takes something else or something more than just the "A" name. I said something else that someone doesn't like, I tried to post it several times to you and once to Bob, but someone won't allow it or it's triggering a filter rule on the servers. One post managed to make it on to the Google archives, (see another post to Bob I), there isn't much there offensive if you ask me but in the past I have found discussions mentioning the subject to not be allowed on the servers, it appears to be a "touchy" subject. John Ron Badour wrote: > John > > Something else is going on as my reply to you had Alias in it and it made it > to the thread. Let's see if this one makes it--ALIAS, alias, Alias. By the > way, I post directly to the MS Server (msnews.microsoft.com) using Outlook > Express >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP It seems to me that censoring the word censor is a bit over the top, but maybe read in context with the other words in the post it could have triggered a filter rule. But I have to say that not too long ago a I found that a discussion about certain practices was not allowed here. John Daave wrote: > Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the MS > server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... > > > "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post >>must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made >>it on to their servers, under another account with just my short >>"John" name. >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >> >>(Look for post #27) >> >>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>powers that be somewhere out there... >> >>John >> >>Bob I wrote: >> >> >>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>> >>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>> >>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>> >>>>>John >>>>> >>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>> >>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off >>>>>>>>>>>>a MS server merely because there were discussions of or >>>>>>>>>>>>rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the >>>>>>>>>>>>poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant >>>>>>>>>>>>spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to >>>>>>>>>>>>porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom >>>>>>>>>>>>of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>>>posts just because they are critical of MS. With that said, >>>>>>>>>>>>I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed >>>>>>>>>>>>being removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person >>>>>>>>>>>>could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post >>>>>>>>>>>>because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text is also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after (without the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it isn't coincidence at all. John Daave wrote: > Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the MS > server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... > > > "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post >>must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made >>it on to their servers, under another account with just my short >>"John" name. >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >> >>(Look for post #27) >> >>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>powers that be somewhere out there... >> >>John >> >>Bob I wrote: >> >> >>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>> >>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>> >>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>> >>>>>John >>>>> >>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>> >>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off >>>>>>>>>>>>a MS server merely because there were discussions of or >>>>>>>>>>>>rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the >>>>>>>>>>>>poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant >>>>>>>>>>>>spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to >>>>>>>>>>>>porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom >>>>>>>>>>>>of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>>>posts just because they are critical of MS. With that said, >>>>>>>>>>>>I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed >>>>>>>>>>>>being removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person >>>>>>>>>>>>could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post >>>>>>>>>>>>because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >
Guest Ron Badour Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP John, Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2008 "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text is > also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after (without > the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it isn't > coincidence at all. > > John > > Daave wrote: > >> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the MS >> server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >> >> >> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post >>>must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made it >>>on to their servers, under another account with just my short "John" >>>name. >>> >>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>> >>>(Look for post #27) >>> >>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the powers >>>that be somewhere out there... >>> >>>John >>> >>>Bob I wrote: >>> >>> >>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>>then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>> >>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... There >>>>>is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>> >>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I will >>>>>>post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>> >>>>>>John >>>>>> >>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my 14:22 >>>>>>>>post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same message >>>>>>>>and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and the posts >>>>>>>>aren't showing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, 12:11, >>>>>>>>>14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. >>>>>>>>>>I tried to post the same post again with my answer to Ron but the >>>>>>>>>>post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from >>>>>>>>>>>>making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name >>>>>>>>>>>>seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>server merely because there were discussions of or rants about >>>>>>>>>>>>>MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the poster if there >>>>>>>>>>>>>is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously >>>>>>>>>>>>>and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts >>>>>>>>>>>>>made by Alias so I don't know what might be objectionable in >>>>>>>>>>>>>his posts if they are indeed being removed. I would also be >>>>>>>>>>>>>willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS if >>>>>>>>>>>>>he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>
Guest Ron Badour Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windodws XP Re: Windodws XP If the subject dealt with something illegal, then I would not be surprised to see it deleted. However, with that said, I have seen posts (one by a former MS MVP) that contained product keys for W98 and the posts were not deleted. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2008 "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:uZGIGZZ0IHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Yes, it takes something else or something more than just the "A" name. I > said something else that someone doesn't like, I tried to post it several > times to you and once to Bob, but someone won't allow it or it's > triggering a filter rule on the servers. One post managed to make it on > to the Google archives, (see another post to Bob I), there isn't much > there offensive if you ask me but in the past I have found discussions > mentioning the subject to not be allowed on the servers, it appears to be > a "touchy" subject. > > John > > Ron Badour wrote: > >> John >> >> Something else is going on as my reply to you had Alias in it and it made >> it to the thread. Let's see if this one makes it--ALIAS, alias, Alias. >> By the way, I post directly to the MS Server (msnews.microsoft.com) using >> Outlook Express >>
Guest Alan Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Hi Ron, I have tried posting replies two times showing a history of John's replies to this thread, and they still haven't shown up here. Let's see if this post makes it. Alan "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > John, > > Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you > believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ > > -- > Regards > > Ron Badour > MS MVP 1997 - 2008 > > > "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text is >> also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after (without >> the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it isn't >> coincidence at all. >> >> John >> >> Daave wrote: >> >>> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the MS >>> server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>> >>> >>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post >>>>must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made it >>>>on to their servers, under another account with just my short "John" >>>>name. >>>> >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>> >>>>(Look for post #27) >>>> >>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the powers >>>>that be somewhere out there... >>>> >>>>John >>>> >>>>Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>>>then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>> >>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>> >>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I will >>>>>>>post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>>>the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, 12:11, >>>>>>>>>>14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. >>>>>>>>>>>I tried to post the same post again with my answer to Ron but the >>>>>>>>>>>post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from >>>>>>>>>>>>>making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name >>>>>>>>>>>>>seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>server merely because there were discussions of or rants about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the poster if there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>they are critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what might be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being removed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would also be willing to bet that a person could lose >>>>>>>>>>>>>>his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >
Guest Alan Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Ron, Is it okay if I send the replies that I posted -- which HAVEN'T shown up here -- to your website account? Alan "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > John, > > Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you > believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ > > -- > Regards > > Ron Badour > MS MVP 1997 - 2008 > > > "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text is >> also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after (without >> the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it isn't >> coincidence at all. >> >> John >> >> Daave wrote: >> >>> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the MS >>> server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>> >>> >>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post >>>>must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made it >>>>on to their servers, under another account with just my short "John" >>>>name. >>>> >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>> >>>>(Look for post #27) >>>> >>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the powers >>>>that be somewhere out there... >>>> >>>>John >>>> >>>>Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>>>then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>> >>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>> >>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I will >>>>>>>post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>>>the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, 12:11, >>>>>>>>>>14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. >>>>>>>>>>>I tried to post the same post again with my answer to Ron but the >>>>>>>>>>>post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from >>>>>>>>>>>>>making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name >>>>>>>>>>>>>seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>server merely because there were discussions of or rants about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the poster if there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>they are critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what might be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being removed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would also be willing to bet that a person could lose >>>>>>>>>>>>>>his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >
Guest Ron Badour Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Seems like it made it here anyway. Do you post directly to the MS server: msnews.microsoft.com ? I am hoping that John will email me the comments he is having trouble with so I can try posting them. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2008 "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message news:uMG7euZ0IHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hi Ron, > > I have tried posting replies two times showing a history of John's > replies to this thread, and they still haven't shown up here. > > Let's see if this post makes it. > > Alan > > "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message > news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> John, >> >> Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you >> believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> Ron Badour >> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >> >> >> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >> news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text is >>> also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after (without >>> the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it isn't >>> coincidence at all. >>> >>> John >>> >>> Daave wrote: >>> >>>> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the >>>> MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>>> >>>> >>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post >>>>>must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made >>>>>it on to their servers, under another account with just my short "John" >>>>>name. >>>>> >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>> >>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>> >>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>> >>>>>John >>>>> >>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>>>>then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>> >>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>>>>the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. >>>>>>>>>>>>I tried to post the same post again with my answer to Ron but >>>>>>>>>>>>the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name >>>>>>>>>>>>>>seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>server merely because there were discussions of or rants >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the poster >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>contain excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just because they are critical of MS. With that said, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >
Guest Alan Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP I've been using the MS Server to try to post them. I'm now going to use my Supernews account to post them, and see if they show up there....and ultimately Google. Alan "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message news:%23$bpb0Z0IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Seems like it made it here anyway. Do you post directly to the MS server: > msnews.microsoft.com ? > > I am hoping that John will email me the comments he is having trouble with > so I can try posting them. > > -- > Regards > > Ron Badour > MS MVP 1997 - 2008 > > > "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message > news:uMG7euZ0IHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Hi Ron, >> >> I have tried posting replies two times showing a history of John's >> replies to this thread, and they still haven't shown up here. >> >> Let's see if this post makes it. >> >> Alan >> >> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >> news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> John, >>> >>> Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you >>> believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ >>> >>> -- >>> Regards >>> >>> Ron Badour >>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>> >>> >>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>> news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text is >>>> also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after (without >>>> the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it isn't >>>> coincidence at all. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> Daave wrote: >>>> >>>>> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the >>>>> MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post >>>>>>must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made >>>>>>it on to their servers, under another account with just my short >>>>>>"John" name. >>>>>> >>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>> >>>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>>> >>>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>> >>>>>>John >>>>>> >>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>>>>>then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>>>>>the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a MS server merely because there were discussions of or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posts just because they are critical of MS. With that said, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>being removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Ron Badour Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Yes. By the way, I see two posts that you made--one at 6:21 and the other at 6:32 and they appear to be ones you are not seeing. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2008 "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message news:e$roGzZ0IHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Ron, > > Is it okay if I send the replies that I posted -- which HAVEN'T shown up > here -- to your website account? > > Alan > > "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message > news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> John, >> >> Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you >> believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> Ron Badour >> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >> >> >> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >> news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text is >>> also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after (without >>> the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it isn't >>> coincidence at all. >>> >>> John >>> >>> Daave wrote: >>> >>>> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the >>>> MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>>> >>>> >>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post >>>>>must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made >>>>>it on to their servers, under another account with just my short "John" >>>>>name. >>>>> >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>> >>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>> >>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>> >>>>>John >>>>> >>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>>>>then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>> >>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>>>>the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. >>>>>>>>>>>>I tried to post the same post again with my answer to Ron but >>>>>>>>>>>>the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name >>>>>>>>>>>>>>seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>server merely because there were discussions of or rants >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the poster >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>contain excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just because they are critical of MS. With that said, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> > >
Guest Alan Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Yes, those are the posts. I DO see them using my Supernews server. Alan "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message news:OPMfS6Z0IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Yes. By the way, I see two posts that you made--one at 6:21 and the other > at 6:32 and they appear to be ones you are not seeing. > > -- > Regards > > Ron Badour > MS MVP 1997 - 2008 > > > "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message > news:e$roGzZ0IHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Ron, >> >> Is it okay if I send the replies that I posted -- which HAVEN'T shown up >> here -- to your website account? >> >> Alan >> >> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >> news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> John, >>> >>> Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you >>> believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ >>> >>> -- >>> Regards >>> >>> Ron Badour >>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>> >>> >>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>> news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text is >>>> also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after (without >>>> the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it isn't >>>> coincidence at all. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> Daave wrote: >>>> >>>>> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the >>>>> MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post >>>>>>must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made >>>>>>it on to their servers, under another account with just my short >>>>>>"John" name. >>>>>> >>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>> >>>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>>> >>>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>> >>>>>>John >>>>>> >>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>>>>>then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>>>>>the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a MS server merely because there were discussions of or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posts just because they are critical of MS. With that said, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>being removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Ron Badour Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Well, I can obviously see them and I am connected to msnews.microsoft.com which is the server name listed on my news account, server tab. Check your settings and if they do not mirror mine, that is probably the problem. Once thing for sure--no censorship is involved. John still has not emailed the comments he says he is having trouble with. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2008 "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message news:Oy8nM%23Z0IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Yes, those are the posts. > > I DO see them using my Supernews server. > > Alan > > "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message > news:OPMfS6Z0IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Yes. By the way, I see two posts that you made--one at 6:21 and the >> other at 6:32 and they appear to be ones you are not seeing. >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> Ron Badour >> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >> >> >> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message >> news:e$roGzZ0IHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Ron, >>> >>> Is it okay if I send the replies that I posted -- which HAVEN'T shown up >>> here -- to your website account? >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >>> news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> John, >>>> >>>> Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you >>>> believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Ron Badour >>>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>>> >>>> >>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text >>>>> is also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after >>>>> (without the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it >>>>> isn't coincidence at all. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> Daave wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the >>>>>> MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>>> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> >>>>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>>post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made >>>>>>>it on to their servers, under another account with just my short >>>>>>>"John" name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>> >>>>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>>>>>>then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>>>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>>>>>>the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a MS server merely because there were discussions of or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posts just because they are critical of MS. With that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>know what might be objectionable in his posts if they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>indeed being removed. I would also be willing to bet that a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Ron Badour Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP As a matter of interest, I see two posts made by Alias: Service Pack 3, 7:00 pm and Reinstalling XP Pro, 6:57. By the way, I forgot to include one more thing that could be cause for posts to be removed. MS has rules of conduct for its newsgroups and constant violation of those rules could result in a person being banned from posting on a MS Server. I see some of the posts from pc*butts*1 removed but I don't know why. He includes in his posts that he is an MS MVP and while that may be true, he is not a Microsoft MVP which is implied but I don't think that is the reason his posts are removed--I may be wrong. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2008 "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message news:Oy8nM%23Z0IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Yes, those are the posts. > > I DO see them using my Supernews server. > > Alan > > "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message > news:OPMfS6Z0IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Yes. By the way, I see two posts that you made--one at 6:21 and the >> other at 6:32 and they appear to be ones you are not seeing. >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> Ron Badour >> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >> >> >> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message >> news:e$roGzZ0IHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Ron, >>> >>> Is it okay if I send the replies that I posted -- which HAVEN'T shown up >>> here -- to your website account? >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >>> news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> John, >>>> >>>> Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you >>>> believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Ron Badour >>>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>>> >>>> >>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text >>>>> is also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after >>>>> (without the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it >>>>> isn't coincidence at all. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> Daave wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on the >>>>>> MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>>> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> >>>>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>>post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made >>>>>>>it on to their servers, under another account with just my short >>>>>>>"John" name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>> >>>>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>>>>>>then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>>>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>>>>>>the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a MS server merely because there were discussions of or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posts just because they are critical of MS. With that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>know what might be objectionable in his posts if they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>indeed being removed. I would also be willing to bet that a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Alan Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Ron, I'm also using msnews.microsoft.com for the Microsoft Server name. And I have NO message rules set for either my OE emails or newsgroups. If I were using an incorrect setting, I wouldn't be able to post or see ANY messages in this group, would I? It seems to be selected messages that I can't post -- or see -- using msnews.microsoft.com. However I CAN post and see them using a different newsgroup server. Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean. Alan "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message news:ODH5yCa0IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Well, I can obviously see them and I am connected to msnews.microsoft.com > which is the server name listed on my news account, server tab. Check > your settings and if they do not mirror mine, that is probably the > problem. Once thing for sure--no censorship is involved. John still has > not emailed the comments he says he is having trouble with. > > -- > Regards > > Ron Badour > MS MVP 1997 - 2008 > > > "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message > news:Oy8nM%23Z0IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Yes, those are the posts. >> >> I DO see them using my Supernews server. >> >> Alan >> >> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >> news:OPMfS6Z0IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Yes. By the way, I see two posts that you made--one at 6:21 and the >>> other at 6:32 and they appear to be ones you are not seeing. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards >>> >>> Ron Badour >>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>> >>> >>> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message >>> news:e$roGzZ0IHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> Is it okay if I send the replies that I posted -- which HAVEN'T shown >>>> up here -- to your website account? >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> John, >>>>> >>>>> Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you >>>>> believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Ron Badour >>>>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text >>>>>> is also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after >>>>>> (without the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it >>>>>> isn't coincidence at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> Daave wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on >>>>>>> the MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>>>post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>>>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost >>>>>>>>made it on to their servers, under another account with just my >>>>>>>>short "John" name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>>>>and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>>>>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents >>>>>>>>>>>>>and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>off a MS server merely because there were discussions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>takes freedom of speech very seriously and does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Alias so I don't know what might be objectionable in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posts if they are indeed being removed. I would also be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Alan Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Ron, Well, YOU might be seeing Alias' posts, but I can't see them using the Microsoft server. I CAN see those posts, however, using my Supernews server account. Clearly, something is a bit screwy here. I suppose if I want to ensure that I see all posts by everyone -- without filtering or auto-deleting --it's better to NOT use the Microsoft servers. Alan "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message news:ud9ljMa0IHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > As a matter of interest, I see two posts made by Alias: Service Pack 3, > 7:00 pm and Reinstalling XP Pro, 6:57. > > By the way, I forgot to include one more thing that could be cause for > posts to be removed. MS has rules of conduct for its newsgroups and > constant violation of those rules could result in a person being banned > from posting on a MS Server. > > I see some of the posts from pc*butts*1 removed but I don't know why. He > includes in his posts that he is an MS MVP and while that may be true, he > is not a Microsoft MVP which is implied but I don't think that is the > reason his posts are removed--I may be wrong. > > -- > Regards > > Ron Badour > MS MVP 1997 - 2008 > > > "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message > news:Oy8nM%23Z0IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Yes, those are the posts. >> >> I DO see them using my Supernews server. >> >> Alan >> >> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >> news:OPMfS6Z0IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Yes. By the way, I see two posts that you made--one at 6:21 and the >>> other at 6:32 and they appear to be ones you are not seeing. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards >>> >>> Ron Badour >>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>> >>> >>> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message >>> news:e$roGzZ0IHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> Is it okay if I send the replies that I posted -- which HAVEN'T shown >>>> up here -- to your website account? >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> John, >>>>> >>>>> Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you >>>>> believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Ron Badour >>>>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text >>>>>> is also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after >>>>>> (without the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it >>>>>> isn't coincidence at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> Daave wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on >>>>>>> the MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>>>post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>>>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost >>>>>>>>made it on to their servers, under another account with just my >>>>>>>>short "John" name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>>>>and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>>>>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents >>>>>>>>>>>>>and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>off a MS server merely because there were discussions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>takes freedom of speech very seriously and does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Alias so I don't know what might be objectionable in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posts if they are indeed being removed. I would also be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Alan Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Ron, Okay, something clearly IS going on here, vis-a-vis, filtering, censoring, editing....whatever one chooses to call it. Using my Supernews account, I just reposted messages that you earlier said that you could see using the microsoft server. I CAN see the messages using Supernews. I CAN read the message at Google groups at http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/871df38748c5dcd3 I can NOT see the message using the Microsoft server. I don't think it's a 'coincidence.' Alan "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message news:ud9ljMa0IHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > As a matter of interest, I see two posts made by Alias: Service Pack 3, > 7:00 pm and Reinstalling XP Pro, 6:57. > > By the way, I forgot to include one more thing that could be cause for > posts to be removed. MS has rules of conduct for its newsgroups and > constant violation of those rules could result in a person being banned > from posting on a MS Server. > > I see some of the posts from pc*butts*1 removed but I don't know why. He > includes in his posts that he is an MS MVP and while that may be true, he > is not a Microsoft MVP which is implied but I don't think that is the > reason his posts are removed--I may be wrong. > > -- > Regards > > Ron Badour > MS MVP 1997 - 2008 > > > "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message > news:Oy8nM%23Z0IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Yes, those are the posts. >> >> I DO see them using my Supernews server. >> >> Alan >> >> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >> news:OPMfS6Z0IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Yes. By the way, I see two posts that you made--one at 6:21 and the >>> other at 6:32 and they appear to be ones you are not seeing. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards >>> >>> Ron Badour >>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>> >>> >>> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message >>> news:e$roGzZ0IHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> Is it okay if I send the replies that I posted -- which HAVEN'T shown >>>> up here -- to your website account? >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> John, >>>>> >>>>> Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you >>>>> believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Ron Badour >>>>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text >>>>>> is also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after >>>>>> (without the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it >>>>>> isn't coincidence at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> Daave wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on >>>>>>> the MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>>>post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>>>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost >>>>>>>>made it on to their servers, under another account with just my >>>>>>>>short "John" name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>>>>and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>>>>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents >>>>>>>>>>>>>and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>off a MS server merely because there were discussions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>takes freedom of speech very seriously and does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Alias so I don't know what might be objectionable in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posts if they are indeed being removed. I would also be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP The posts are showing up in the Google archives but not on the MS servers. The posts that I made were rather tame and bland if you ask me but someone doesn't want to see the subject mentioned here, not by me or not by others, as clearly demonstrated by your efforts to copy and post the same text to your post. John Alan wrote: > Ron, > > Okay, something clearly IS going on here, vis-a-vis, filtering, censoring, > editing....whatever one chooses to call it. > > Using my Supernews account, I just reposted messages that you earlier said > that you could see using the microsoft server. > > I CAN see the messages using Supernews. > > I CAN read the message at Google groups at > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/871df38748c5dcd3 > > I can NOT see the message using the Microsoft server. > > I don't think it's a 'coincidence.' > > Alan > > "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message > news:ud9ljMa0IHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >>As a matter of interest, I see two posts made by Alias: Service Pack 3, >>7:00 pm and Reinstalling XP Pro, 6:57. >> >>By the way, I forgot to include one more thing that could be cause for >>posts to be removed. MS has rules of conduct for its newsgroups and >>constant violation of those rules could result in a person being banned >>from posting on a MS Server. >> >>I see some of the posts from pc*butts*1 removed but I don't know why. He >>includes in his posts that he is an MS MVP and while that may be true, he >>is not a Microsoft MVP which is implied but I don't think that is the >>reason his posts are removed--I may be wrong. >> >>-- >>Regards >> >>Ron Badour >>MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >> >> >>"Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message >>news:Oy8nM%23Z0IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >>>Yes, those are the posts. >>> >>>I DO see them using my Supernews server. >>> >>> Alan >>> >>>"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >>>news:OPMfS6Z0IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> >>>>Yes. By the way, I see two posts that you made--one at 6:21 and the >>>>other at 6:32 and they appear to be ones you are not seeing. >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Regards >>>> >>>>Ron Badour >>>>MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>>> >>>> >>>>"Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message >>>>news:e$roGzZ0IHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>>>Ron, >>>>> >>>>>Is it okay if I send the replies that I posted -- which HAVEN'T shown >>>>>up here -- to your website account? >>>>> >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>>"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>>>John, >>>>>> >>>>>>Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you >>>>>>believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>Regards >>>>>> >>>>>>Ron Badour >>>>>>MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> >>>>>>>It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text >>>>>>>is also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after >>>>>>>(without the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it >>>>>>>isn't coincidence at all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Daave wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on >>>>>>>>the MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>>>news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>>>>post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>>>>>>>replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost >>>>>>>>>made it on to their servers, under another account with just my >>>>>>>>>short "John" name. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>>>>>and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>>>>>>>There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>>>>>>>another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>>>>>>>>will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents >>>>>>>>>>>>>>and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>off a MS server merely because there were discussions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>takes freedom of speech very seriously and does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Alias so I don't know what might be objectionable in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posts if they are indeed being removed. I would also be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
Guest Alan Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Yes, it's a little disheartening -- and a bit scary -- John. Alan "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:uukhq9a0IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > The posts are showing up in the Google archives but not on the MS servers. > The posts that I made were rather tame and bland if you ask me but someone > doesn't want to see the subject mentioned here, not by me or not by > others, as clearly demonstrated by your efforts to copy and post the same > text to your post. > > John > > Alan wrote: > >> Ron, >> >> Okay, something clearly IS going on here, vis-a-vis, filtering, >> censoring, editing....whatever one chooses to call it. >> >> Using my Supernews account, I just reposted messages that you earlier >> said that you could see using the microsoft server. >> >> I CAN see the messages using Supernews. >> >> I CAN read the message at Google groups at >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/871df38748c5dcd3 >> >> I can NOT see the message using the Microsoft server. >> >> I don't think it's a 'coincidence.' >> >> Alan >> >> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >> news:ud9ljMa0IHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >>>As a matter of interest, I see two posts made by Alias: Service Pack 3, >>>7:00 pm and Reinstalling XP Pro, 6:57. >>> >>>By the way, I forgot to include one more thing that could be cause for >>>posts to be removed. MS has rules of conduct for its newsgroups and >>>constant violation of those rules could result in a person being banned >>>from posting on a MS Server. >>> >>>I see some of the posts from pc*butts*1 removed but I don't know why. He >>>includes in his posts that he is an MS MVP and while that may be true, he >>>is not a Microsoft MVP which is implied but I don't think that is the >>>reason his posts are removed--I may be wrong. >>> >>>-- >>>Regards >>> >>>Ron Badour >>>MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>> >>> >>>"Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message >>>news:Oy8nM%23Z0IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>>>Yes, those are the posts. >>>> >>>>I DO see them using my Supernews server. >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>>"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >>>>news:OPMfS6Z0IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>>>Yes. By the way, I see two posts that you made--one at 6:21 and the >>>>>other at 6:32 and they appear to be ones you are not seeing. >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Regards >>>>> >>>>>Ron Badour >>>>>MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message >>>>>news:e$roGzZ0IHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>>>Ron, >>>>>> >>>>>>Is it okay if I send the replies that I posted -- which HAVEN'T shown >>>>>>up here -- to your website account? >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan >>>>>> >>>>>>"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:OvqRWiZ0IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> >>>>>>>John, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Please send me an email through my web site containing the text you >>>>>>>believe is responsible. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ron Badour >>>>>>>MS MVP 1997 - 2008 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>>news:edDCgdZ0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It's a funny coincidence that another post to Bob with the same text >>>>>>>>is also not showing here yet posts a few minutes before and after >>>>>>>>(without the offending text, whatever it is) is showing. To me it >>>>>>>>isn't coincidence at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Daave wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Or it might be a coincidence. Sometimes my posts don't show up on >>>>>>>>>the MS server either. Or maybe it's the "c" word.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>>>>>post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google >>>>>>>>>>was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted >>>>>>>>>>repost made it on to their servers, under another account with >>>>>>>>>>just my short "John" name. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>>>>>>and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>>>>>>>up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron >>>>>>>>>>>>>in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post >>>>>>>>>>>>>this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same message and another (new) one with slightly altered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"A" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the conversation is now over because I can no longer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>express my opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>off a MS server merely because there were discussions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>contain blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously and does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posts made by Alias so I don't know what might be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>
Guest Bob I Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP maybe the word porn? John John (MVP) wrote: > Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post > must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was > replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made it > on to their servers, under another account with just my short "John" name. > > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d > > > (Look for post #27) > > The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the powers > that be somewhere out there... > > John > > Bob I wrote: > >> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >> then you would know what tripped the "filter". >> >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>> There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>> >>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>> >>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>> another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>> will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>> >>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>> 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>> message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>> the posts aren't showing. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>> hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>> Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from >>>>>>>>>> making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name >>>>>>>>>> seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>> conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>> opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have >>>>>>>>>>> never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS >>>>>>>>>>> server merely because there were discussions of or rants >>>>>>>>>>> about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the poster >>>>>>>>>>> if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, >>>>>>>>>>> contain excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, >>>>>>>>>>> could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of >>>>>>>>>>> speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts >>>>>>>>>>> just because they are critical of MS. With that said, I >>>>>>>>>>> don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what >>>>>>>>>>> might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being >>>>>>>>>>> removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person could >>>>>>>>>>> lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a >>>>>>>>>>> grudge. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>
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