Guest Bob I Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Guess not. Bob I wrote: > maybe the word porn? > > John John (MVP) wrote: > >> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post >> must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >> replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made >> it on to their servers, under another account with just my short >> "John" name. >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >> >> >> (Look for post #27) >> >> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >> powers that be somewhere out there... >> >> John >> >> Bob I wrote: >> >>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>> then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>> >>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>> >>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>> There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>> >>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>> another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>> will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>> >>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>> 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>> message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>> the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>> hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>> Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>> from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>> name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>> conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>> opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>> have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off >>>>>>>>>>>> a MS server merely because there were discussions of or >>>>>>>>>>>> rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the >>>>>>>>>>>> poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant >>>>>>>>>>>> spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to >>>>>>>>>>>> porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom >>>>>>>>>>>> of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>>> posts just because they are critical of MS. With that said, >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>> what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed >>>>>>>>>>>> being removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person >>>>>>>>>>>> could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post >>>>>>>>>>>> because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP With he the word c-e-n-s-o r-e-d maybe. John Bob I wrote: > Guess not. > > Bob I wrote: > >> maybe the word porn? >> >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>> post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>> replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made >>> it on to their servers, under another account with just my short >>> "John" name. >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>> >>> >>> (Look for post #27) >>> >>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>> powers that be somewhere out there... >>> >>> John >>> >>> Bob I wrote: >>> >>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>> then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>> >>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>> There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>> >>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>> another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>> will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>> 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>> message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>> the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>> hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>> Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>> from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>> name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>> conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off >>>>>>>>>>>>> a MS server merely because there were discussions of or >>>>>>>>>>>>> rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant >>>>>>>>>>>>> spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to >>>>>>>>>>>>> porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom >>>>>>>>>>>>> of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>>>> posts just because they are critical of MS. With that >>>>>>>>>>>>> said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> know what might be objectionable in his posts if they are >>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed being removed. I would also be willing to bet that >>>>>>>>>>>>> a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a >>>>>>>>>>>>> post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >
Guest Bob I Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Trying censored and alias Bob I wrote: > Guess not. > > Bob I wrote: > >> maybe the word porn? >> >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>> post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>> replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made >>> it on to their servers, under another account with just my short >>> "John" name. >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>> >>> >>> (Look for post #27) >>> >>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>> powers that be somewhere out there... >>> >>> John >>> >>> Bob I wrote: >>> >>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and >>>> then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>> >>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>> There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>> >>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>> another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>> will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>> 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>> message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents and >>>>>>>> the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>> hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer to >>>>>>>>>> Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>> from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>> name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>> conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off >>>>>>>>>>>>> a MS server merely because there were discussions of or >>>>>>>>>>>>> rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant >>>>>>>>>>>>> spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to >>>>>>>>>>>>> porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom >>>>>>>>>>>>> of speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>>>> posts just because they are critical of MS. With that >>>>>>>>>>>>> said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> know what might be objectionable in his posts if they are >>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed being removed. I would also be willing to bet that >>>>>>>>>>>>> a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a >>>>>>>>>>>>> post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Try it with p-o-r-n John Bob I wrote: > Trying censored and alias > > Bob I wrote: > >> Guess not. >> >> Bob I wrote: >> >>> maybe the word porn? >>> >>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>> >>>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>> post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was >>>> replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost >>>> made it on to their servers, under another account with just my >>>> short "John" name. >>>> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>> >>>> >>>> (Look for post #27) >>>> >>>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>> powers that be somewhere out there... >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>> and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>> >>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... >>>>>> There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>> >>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in >>>>>>> another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I >>>>>>> will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>> 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same >>>>>>>>> message and another (new) one with slightly altered contents >>>>>>>>> and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>> hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer >>>>>>>>>>> to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>> from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" >>>>>>>>>>>>> name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess the >>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation is now over because I can no longer express my >>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>> off a MS server merely because there were discussions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes freedom of speech very seriously and does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias so I don't know what might be objectionable in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts if they are indeed being removed. I would also be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
Guest mae Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windodws XP Re: Windodws XP Ron, I agree with you. Perhaps the one message got lost when he changed the subject, plus messages do get lost, and the filters aren't perpect.. I also see gobs of messages from alias. mae "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message news:%23KV1gRZ0IHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | John | | Something else is going on as my reply to you had Alias in it and it made it | to the thread. Let's see if this one makes it--ALIAS, alias, Alias. By the | way, I post directly to the MS Server (msnews.microsoft.com) using Outlook | Express | | -- | Regards | | Ron Badour | MS MVP 1997 - 2008 | | | "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message | news:uAjrhiX0IHA.3920@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | > It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from making it | > to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems like reason enough | > to block posts! I guess the conversation is now over because I can no | > longer express my opinion about the subject! | > | > John | > | > Ron Badour wrote: | > | >> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never seen | >> nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely because | >> there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the | >> request of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant | >> spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could | >> contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously | >> and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of | >> MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't | >> know what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being | >> removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person could lose his/her | >> job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. | > | |
Guest Alan Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windodws XP Re: Windodws XP mae, What about the missing messages that __I__ have sent, which show up reading this newsgroup in Giganews and Google -- and probably many others -- but which do NOT show up on the Microsoft servers? Why are you discounting those? There clearly is something going on here as far as filtering/editing/censoring goes. And, if you know what kind of filtering is being done, would you kindly share that information with the rest of us? Alan "mae" <agrannie@notemail.msn.com> wrote in message news:%23FxRVmh0IHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Ron, I agree with you. > Perhaps the one message got lost when he changed the subject, plus > messages > do get lost, and the filters aren't perpect.. > I also see gobs of messages from alias. > > mae > > "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message > news:%23KV1gRZ0IHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | John > | > | Something else is going on as my reply to you had Alias in it and it > made > it > | to the thread. Let's see if this one makes it--ALIAS, alias, Alias. By > the > | way, I post directly to the MS Server (msnews.microsoft.com) using > Outlook > | Express > | > | -- > | Regards > | > | Ron Badour > | MS MVP 1997 - 2008 > | > | > | "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > | news:uAjrhiX0IHA.3920@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > | > It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from making > it > | > to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems like reason > enough > | > to block posts! I guess the conversation is now over because I can no > | > longer express my opinion about the subject! > | > > | > John > | > > | > Ron Badour wrote: > | > > | >> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never > seen > | >> nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely > because > | >> there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon > the > | >> request of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain > blatant > | >> spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could > | >> contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very > seriously > | >> and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical > of > | >> MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I > don't > | >> know what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed > being > | >> removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person could lose > his/her > | >> job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. > | > > | > | >
Guest Bob I Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-) John John (MVP) wrote: > Try it with p-o-r-n > > John > > Bob I wrote: > >> Trying censored and alias >> >> Bob I wrote: >> >>> Guess not. >>> >>> Bob I wrote: >>> >>>> maybe the word porn? >>>> >>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>> post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google >>>>> was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted >>>>> repost made it on to their servers, under another account with just >>>>> my short "John" name. >>>>> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (Look for post #27) >>>>> >>>>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>> powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>> and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>> >>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>> up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron >>>>>>>> in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post >>>>>>>> this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my >>>>>>>>>> 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the >>>>>>>>>> same message and another (new) one with slightly altered >>>>>>>>>> contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>> hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer >>>>>>>>>>>> to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "A" name seems like reason enough to block posts! I guess >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the conversation is now over because I can no longer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> express my opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off a MS server merely because there were discussions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes freedom of speech very seriously and does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Alias so I don't know what might be objectionable in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his posts if they are indeed being removed. I would also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windodws XP Re: Windodws XP No, that isn't the case, other messages with different contents made it through but multiple attempts to post the same message contents to different parts of the thread failed. John mae wrote: > Ron, I agree with you. > Perhaps the one message got lost when he changed the subject, plus messages > do get lost, and the filters aren't perpect.. > I also see gobs of messages from alias. > > mae > > "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message > news:%23KV1gRZ0IHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | John > | > | Something else is going on as my reply to you had Alias in it and it made > it > | to the thread. Let's see if this one makes it--ALIAS, alias, Alias. By > the > | way, I post directly to the MS Server (msnews.microsoft.com) using Outlook > | Express > | > | -- > | Regards > | > | Ron Badour > | MS MVP 1997 - 2008 > | > | > | "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > | news:uAjrhiX0IHA.3920@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > | > It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from making it > | > to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems like reason > enough > | > to block posts! I guess the conversation is now over because I can no > | > longer express my opinion about the subject! > | > > | > John > | > > | > Ron Badour wrote: > | > > | >> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never > seen > | >> nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely because > | >> there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon > the > | >> request of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain > blatant > | >> spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could > | >> contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously > | >> and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of > | >> MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I > don't > | >> know what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being > | >> removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person could lose > his/her > | >> job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. > | > > | > | >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP I meant censored porn. John Bob I wrote: > Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-) > > John John (MVP) wrote: > >> Try it with p-o-r-n >> >> John >> >> Bob I wrote: >> >>> Trying censored and alias >>> >>> Bob I wrote: >>> >>>> Guess not. >>>> >>>> Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>>> maybe the word porn? >>>>> >>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>> post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google >>>>>> was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted >>>>>> repost made it on to their servers, under another account with >>>>>> just my short "John" name. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (Look for post #27) >>>>>> >>>>>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>> powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>> and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>>> up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron >>>>>>>>> in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post >>>>>>>>> this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before >>>>>>>>>>> my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the >>>>>>>>>>> same message and another (new) one with slightly altered >>>>>>>>>>> contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>> hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer >>>>>>>>>>>>> to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "A" name seems like reason enough to block posts! I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess the conversation is now over because I can no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer express my opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off a MS server merely because there were discussions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously and does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts made by Alias so I don't know what might be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Guest Bob I Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP Humm, I think maybe a combo, or someone "fixed" it. John John (MVP) wrote: > I meant censored porn. > > John > > Bob I wrote: > >> Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-) >> >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> Try it with p-o-r-n >>> >>> John >>> >>> Bob I wrote: >>> >>>> Trying censored and alias >>>> >>>> Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>>> Guess not. >>>>> >>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> maybe the word porn? >>>>>> >>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>> post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google >>>>>>> was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted >>>>>>> repost made it on to their servers, under another account with >>>>>>> just my short "John" name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (Look for post #27) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>> powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>>> and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>>>> up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron >>>>>>>>>> in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post >>>>>>>>>> this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before >>>>>>>>>>>> my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost >>>>>>>>>>>> the same message and another (new) one with slightly altered >>>>>>>>>>>> contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has appeared yet the other one that I posted before this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prevented from making it to the MS server, so even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning the "A" name seems like reason enough to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block posts! I guess the conversation is now over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I can no longer express my opinion about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken off a MS server merely because there were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upon the request of the poster if there is a valid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain excessive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because they are critical of MS. With that said, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what might be objectionable in his posts if they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed being removed. I would also be willing to bet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP I guess it's no that either. Maybe links to censored porn John John John (MVP) wrote: > I meant censored porn. > > John > > Bob I wrote: > >> Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-) >> >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> Try it with p-o-r-n >>> >>> John >>> >>> Bob I wrote: >>> >>>> Trying censored and alias >>>> >>>> Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>>> Guess not. >>>>> >>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> maybe the word porn? >>>>>> >>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>> post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google >>>>>>> was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted >>>>>>> repost made it on to their servers, under another account with >>>>>>> just my short "John" name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (Look for post #27) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>> powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>>> and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>>>> up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron >>>>>>>>>> in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post >>>>>>>>>> this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before >>>>>>>>>>>> my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost >>>>>>>>>>>> the same message and another (new) one with slightly altered >>>>>>>>>>>> contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has appeared yet the other one that I posted before this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prevented from making it to the MS server, so even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning the "A" name seems like reason enough to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block posts! I guess the conversation is now over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I can no longer express my opinion about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken off a MS server merely because there were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upon the request of the poster if there is a valid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain excessive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because they are critical of MS. With that said, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what might be objectionable in his posts if they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed being removed. I would also be willing to bet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP In that case, if it's "fixed" I should be able to past the exact text that got the post banned yesterday and it should show on the server. I will give it anoter try. John Bob I wrote: > Humm, I think maybe a combo, or someone "fixed" it. > > John John (MVP) wrote: > >> I meant censored porn. >> >> John >> >> Bob I wrote: >> >>> Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-) >>> >>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>> >>>> Try it with p-o-r-n >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>>> Trying censored and alias >>>>> >>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Guess not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> maybe the word porn? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, >>>>>>>> my post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when >>>>>>>> Google was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my >>>>>>>> attempted repost made it on to their servers, under another >>>>>>>> account with just my short "John" name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (Look for post #27) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to >>>>>>>> the powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single >>>>>>>>> sentence, and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>>>>> up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to >>>>>>>>>>> Ron in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I >>>>>>>>>>> post this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier >>>>>>>>>>> reply. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before >>>>>>>>>>>>> my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost >>>>>>>>>>>>> the same message and another (new) one with slightly >>>>>>>>>>>>> altered contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:03, 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has appeared yet the other one that I posted before this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prevented from making it to the MS server, so even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning the "A" name seems like reason enough to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block posts! I guess the conversation is now over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I can no longer express my opinion about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken off a MS server merely because there were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upon the request of the poster if there is a valid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts just because they are critical of MS. With that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know what might be objectionable in his posts if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are indeed being removed. I would also be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Guest Alan Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP And I'll try posting the quotes from you that I made yesterday and which didn't show up in this thread on the Microsoft server. Alan "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:eyXp0ci0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > In that case, if it's "fixed" I should be able to past the exact text that > got the post banned yesterday and it should show on the server. I will > give it anoter try. > > John > > Bob I wrote: >> Humm, I think maybe a combo, or someone "fixed" it. >> >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> I meant censored porn. >>> >>> John >>> >>> Bob I wrote: >>> >>>> Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-) >>>> >>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>>> Try it with p-o-r-n >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Trying censored and alias >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Guess not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> maybe the word porn? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>>>> post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google >>>>>>>>> was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted >>>>>>>>> repost made it on to their servers, under another account with >>>>>>>>> just my short "John" name. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (Look for post #27) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>>>> powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>>>>> and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>>>>>> up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron >>>>>>>>>>>> in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post >>>>>>>>>>>> this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> same message and another (new) one with slightly altered >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "A" name seems like reason enough to block posts! I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess the conversation is now over because I can no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer express my opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off a MS server merely because there were discussions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously and does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts made by Alias so I don't know what might be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windownd XP Re: Windownd XP Hmmm. I wonder how long I should wait.... 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I > will give it anoter try. > > John > > Bob I wrote: > >> Humm, I think maybe a combo, or someone "fixed" it. >> >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> I meant censored porn. >>> >>> John >>> >>> Bob I wrote: >>> >>>> Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-) >>>> >>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>>> Try it with p-o-r-n >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Trying censored and alias >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Guess not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> maybe the word porn? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, >>>>>>>>> my post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when >>>>>>>>> Google was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my >>>>>>>>> attempted repost made it on to their servers, under another >>>>>>>>> account with just my short "John" name. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (Look for post #27) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to >>>>>>>>> the powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single >>>>>>>>>> sentence, and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>>>>>> up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to >>>>>>>>>>>> Ron in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I >>>>>>>>>>>> post this I will post a second post with a copy of my >>>>>>>>>>>> earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (before my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> repost the same message and another (new) one with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly altered contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:03, 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has appeared yet the other one that I posted before this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prevented from making it to the MS server, so even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning the "A" name seems like reason enough to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block posts! I guess the conversation is now over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I can no longer express my opinion about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I have never seen nor heard of a post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intentionally taken off a MS server merely because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are removed upon the request of the poster if there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain excessive profanity, have any reference to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> porn, could contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of speech very seriously and does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arbitrarily remove posts just because they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what might >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being removed. I would also be willing to bet that a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Guest Alias Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Winodws XP Daave wrote: > Surely someone from Microsoft is removing the posts. But that doesn't > make this a moderated newsgroup (strictly speaking). Posts on moderated > newsgroups do not show up immediately. They are *all* reviewed first. > That is why 4PeaceMirelle's silly post showed up (because this is not a > moderated newsgroup). And that is why Alias's posts show up (and > propagate and get archived on Google, etc., even if they are removed > from the MS news server shortly after they are posted). If this group > were moderated (again, in the generally accepted Usenet sense of the > term), Alias's posts (and presumably 4PeaceMirelle's claptrap) would not > show up in the first place and would therefore not propagate. Many, many times my posts never show up in the first place. Alias > > John John (MVP) wrote: >> So then tell us, who do you think is removing the posts (on the MS >> server)? >> John >> >> Daave wrote: >> >>> If this were a moderated newsgroup, those posts would never appear in >>> the first place. >>> >>> Alan wrote: >>> >>>> Well, this public newsgroup is moderated enough such that posts from >>>> 'Alias' are deleted almost as soon as they are posted. >>>> >>>> Alias REALLY must have pissed someone at Microsoft off for them to >>>> be doing that. >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%2319LxDU0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>>> Same reason every other OT posting is here, it's an unmoderated >>>>> public newsgroup. >>>>> >>>>> Alan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Why is this propaganda crap link from 'Mirelle' allowed here? >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan >>>>>> >>>>>> "4PeaceMirelle" <anaminaam@gmail.com> wrote in message > >
Guest Alias Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Winodws XP Ron Badour wrote: > I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never seen nor > heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely because there > were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request > of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, > contain excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain > dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously and does not > arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of MS. With that > said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know what might > be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being removed. I would > also be willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she > removed a post because of a grudge. I don't know anyone at MS. I do know that some of my posts never make the MS servers until I change my email address. So, I am being censored, pure and simple, and MS is not serious about free speech. They would do well to set up shop in China where this kind of crap is accepted. Alias
Guest Daave Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Winodws XP Alias wrote: > Daave wrote: >> Surely someone from Microsoft is removing the posts. But that doesn't >> make this a moderated newsgroup (strictly speaking). Posts on >> moderated newsgroups do not show up immediately. They are *all* >> reviewed first. That is why 4PeaceMirelle's silly post showed up >> (because this is not a moderated newsgroup). And that is why Alias's >> posts show up (and propagate and get archived on Google, etc., even >> if they are removed from the MS news server shortly after they are >> posted). If this group were moderated (again, in the generally >> accepted Usenet sense of the term), Alias's posts (and presumably >> 4PeaceMirelle's claptrap) would not show up in the first place and >> would therefore not propagate. > > Many, many times my posts never show up in the first place. This one did!
Guest Alan Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP And in the 'SERVICE PACK 3 - Updated Help Needed...' thread that was started by a poster named Stephen Blakely on 6/18/08 at 6:48 PM, there was this exchange, below, between Alias and me. I'm posting this through my giganews account on June 19 at 12:42 PM, EDT. Alan "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmailTHIS.com> wrote in message news:g3e16t$7b6$1@aioe.org... > Alan wrote: >> Alias, >> >> Not that you asked, but I'm just curious if you've seen some of the posts >> that a few of us have been writing regarding your 'problems' with posting >> on Microsoft servers? >> >> Alan > > No, I haven't seen them. What do they say? I do know that all my posts are > censored on MS servers. I guess MS is scared of Ubuntu and rightfully so. > MS would do well in China or Iran. > > Alias "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:eyXp0ci0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > In that case, if it's "fixed" I should be able to past the exact text that > got the post banned yesterday and it should show on the server. I will > give it anoter try. > > John > > Bob I wrote: >> Humm, I think maybe a combo, or someone "fixed" it. >> >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> I meant censored porn. >>> >>> John >>> >>> Bob I wrote: >>> >>>> Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-) >>>> >>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>>> Try it with p-o-r-n >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Trying censored and alias >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Guess not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> maybe the word porn? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>>>> post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google >>>>>>>>> was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted >>>>>>>>> repost made it on to their servers, under another account with >>>>>>>>> just my short "John" name. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (Look for post #27) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>>>> powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>>>>> and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>>>>>> up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't like. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron >>>>>>>>>>>> in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post >>>>>>>>>>>> this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> same message and another (new) one with slightly altered >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "A" name seems like reason enough to block posts! I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess the conversation is now over because I can no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer express my opinion about the subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off a MS server merely because there were discussions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any reference to porn, could contain dangerous info, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously and does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts made by Alias so I don't know what might be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Guest Alan Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP John, Are YOU able to see this post in which Alias and I talk about his threads? Alan "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.pew> wrote in message news:v-WdnWYdpOZFEcfVnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@posted.toastnet... > And in the 'SERVICE PACK 3 - Updated Help Needed...' thread that was > started by a poster named Stephen Blakely on 6/18/08 at 6:48 PM, there was > this exchange, below, between Alias and me. > > I'm posting this through my giganews account on June 19 at 12:42 PM, EDT. > > Alan > > "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmailTHIS.com> wrote in message > news:g3e16t$7b6$1@aioe.org... >> Alan wrote: >>> Alias, >>> >>> Not that you asked, but I'm just curious if you've seen some of the >>> posts that a few of us have been writing regarding your 'problems' with >>> posting on Microsoft servers? >>> >>> Alan >> >> No, I haven't seen them. What do they say? I do know that all my posts >> are censored on MS servers. I guess MS is scared of Ubuntu and rightfully >> so. MS would do well in China or Iran. >> >> Alias > "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > news:eyXp0ci0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> In that case, if it's "fixed" I should be able to past the exact text >> that got the post banned yesterday and it should show on the server. I >> will give it anoter try. >> >> John >> >> Bob I wrote: >>> Humm, I think maybe a combo, or someone "fixed" it. >>> >>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>> >>>> I meant censored porn. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-) >>>>> >>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Try it with p-o-r-n >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Trying censored and alias >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Guess not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> maybe the word porn? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>>>>> post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google >>>>>>>>>> was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted >>>>>>>>>> repost made it on to their servers, under another account with >>>>>>>>>> just my short "John" name. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (Look for post #27) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>>>>> powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>>>>>> and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>>>>>>> up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>> like. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron >>>>>>>>>>>>> in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post >>>>>>>>>>>>> this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier >>>>>>>>>>>>> reply. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same message and another (new) one with slightly altered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has appeared yet the other one that I posted before this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that now my posts to this thread are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prevented from making it to the MS server, so even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning the "A" name seems like reason enough to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> block posts! I guess the conversation is now over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I can no longer express my opinion about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken off a MS server merely because there were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upon the request of the poster if there is a valid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain excessive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because they are critical of MS. With that said, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what might be objectionable in his posts if they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed being removed. I would also be willing to bet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Winodws XP Daave wrote: > Alias wrote: > >>Daave wrote: >> >>>Surely someone from Microsoft is removing the posts. But that doesn't >>>make this a moderated newsgroup (strictly speaking). Posts on >>>moderated newsgroups do not show up immediately. They are *all* >>>reviewed first. That is why 4PeaceMirelle's silly post showed up >>>(because this is not a moderated newsgroup). And that is why Alias's >>>posts show up (and propagate and get archived on Google, etc., even >>>if they are removed from the MS news server shortly after they are >>>posted). If this group were moderated (again, in the generally >>>accepted Usenet sense of the term), Alias's posts (and presumably >>>4PeaceMirelle's claptrap) would not show up in the first place and >>>would therefore not propagate. >> >>Many, many times my posts never show up in the first place. > > > This one did! Maybe because he didn't post anything controversial. But one of my post won't make it to the servers... unless I post it in Morse Code! lol I wonder what is in the post that forbids it on the servers. Mind you, I don't think that anyone is saying that anything and everything should be allowed here, else we would have to wade through tons of spam and f*r*e*e s\e\x junk, as is often the case on .alt discussion groups. There has to be filtering and post removal going on or else the groups would be swamped and everyone would be extremely annoyed. But I think that along with the necessary filtering and post removal someone is applying "other" rules of their own. John
Guest Alan Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Winodws XP Daave, Yes THAT post one from Alias did show up. Some of his occasionally do. However, there are posts being made by John John and me -- discussing this situation -- which are NOT showing up when they are posted via Microsoft's newsgroups server. They DO show up when I post via giganews, and they ARE in Google. Take a look at this link at http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/4407208bde812abf?# and read through the ENTIRE thread to see what you might have been missing, if you're depending solely on the MSFT servers. Alan "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message news:e$ptdui0IHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Alias wrote: >> Daave wrote: >>> Surely someone from Microsoft is removing the posts. But that doesn't >>> make this a moderated newsgroup (strictly speaking). Posts on >>> moderated newsgroups do not show up immediately. They are *all* >>> reviewed first. That is why 4PeaceMirelle's silly post showed up >>> (because this is not a moderated newsgroup). And that is why Alias's >>> posts show up (and propagate and get archived on Google, etc., even >>> if they are removed from the MS news server shortly after they are >>> posted). If this group were moderated (again, in the generally >>> accepted Usenet sense of the term), Alias's posts (and presumably >>> 4PeaceMirelle's claptrap) would not show up in the first place and >>> would therefore not propagate. >> >> Many, many times my posts never show up in the first place. > > This one did! >
Guest Bob I Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Winodws XP John John (MVP) wrote: > Daave wrote: > >> Alias wrote: >> >>> Daave wrote: >>> >>>> Surely someone from Microsoft is removing the posts. But that doesn't >>>> make this a moderated newsgroup (strictly speaking). Posts on >>>> moderated newsgroups do not show up immediately. They are *all* >>>> reviewed first. That is why 4PeaceMirelle's silly post showed up >>>> (because this is not a moderated newsgroup). And that is why Alias's >>>> posts show up (and propagate and get archived on Google, etc., even >>>> if they are removed from the MS news server shortly after they are >>>> posted). If this group were moderated (again, in the generally >>>> accepted Usenet sense of the term), Alias's posts (and presumably >>>> 4PeaceMirelle's claptrap) would not show up in the first place and >>>> would therefore not propagate. >>> >>> >>> Many, many times my posts never show up in the first place. >> >> >> >> This one did! > > > Maybe because he didn't post anything controversial. But one of my post > won't make it to the servers... unless I post it in Morse Code! lol I > wonder what is in the post that forbids it on the servers. > > Mind you, I don't think that anyone is saying that anything and > everything should be allowed here, else we would have to wade through > tons of spam and f*r*e*e s\e\x junk, as is often the case on .alt > discussion groups. There has to be filtering and post removal going on > or else the groups would be swamped and everyone would be extremely > annoyed. But I think that along with the necessary filtering and post > removal someone is applying "other" rules of their own. > > John > Curious enough to post it one line at a time yet? ;-)
Guest John John (MVP) Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP I see this thread and the one labeled SERVICE PACK 3 - Updated Help Needed... but I still find my post censored if I post the original contents that couldn't make it here (yesterday) in the first place, ....it is still censored ...unless I post it in Morse Code! John Alan wrote: > John, > > Are YOU able to see this post in which Alias and I talk about his threads? > > Alan > > "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.pew> wrote in message > news:v-WdnWYdpOZFEcfVnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@posted.toastnet... > >>And in the 'SERVICE PACK 3 - Updated Help Needed...' thread that was >>started by a poster named Stephen Blakely on 6/18/08 at 6:48 PM, there was >>this exchange, below, between Alias and me. >> >>I'm posting this through my giganews account on June 19 at 12:42 PM, EDT. >> >> Alan >> >>"Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmailTHIS.com> wrote in message >>news:g3e16t$7b6$1@aioe.org... >> >>>Alan wrote: >>> >>>>Alias, >>>> >>>>Not that you asked, but I'm just curious if you've seen some of the >>>>posts that a few of us have been writing regarding your 'problems' with >>>>posting on Microsoft servers? >>>> >>>> Alan >>> >>>No, I haven't seen them. What do they say? I do know that all my posts >>>are censored on MS servers. I guess MS is scared of Ubuntu and rightfully >>>so. MS would do well in China or Iran. >>> >>>Alias >> >>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>news:eyXp0ci0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >>>In that case, if it's "fixed" I should be able to past the exact text >>>that got the post banned yesterday and it should show on the server. I >>>will give it anoter try. >>> >>>John >>> >>>Bob I wrote: >>> >>>>Humm, I think maybe a combo, or someone "fixed" it. >>>> >>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>I meant censored porn. >>>>> >>>>>John >>>>> >>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Try it with p-o-r-n >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Trying censored and alias >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Guess not. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>maybe the word porn? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my >>>>>>>>>>>post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google >>>>>>>>>>>was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted >>>>>>>>>>>repost made it on to their servers, under another account with >>>>>>>>>>>just my short "John" name. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the >>>>>>>>>>>powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, >>>>>>>>>>>>and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>>>>>>>>up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>like. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same message and another (new) one with slightly altered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>has appeared yet the other one that I posted before this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>answer to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>prevented from making it to the MS server, so even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mentioning the "A" name seems like reason enough to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>block posts! I guess the conversation is now over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>because I can no longer express my opinion about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>taken off a MS server merely because there were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>upon the request of the poster if there is a valid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain excessive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>seriously and does not arbitrarily remove posts just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>because they are critical of MS. With that said, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what might be objectionable in his posts if they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>indeed being removed. I would also be willing to bet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >
Guest Alan Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Windowds XP Re: Windowds XP John, Maybe the admin of the Microsoft servers thinks that an MVP is being 'disloyal?' Have you ever visited Siberia in the wintertime? :-> Alan "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:e07MW4i0IHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I see this thread and the one labeled SERVICE PACK 3 - Updated Help >Needed... but I still find my post censored if I post the original contents >that couldn't make it here (yesterday) in the first place, ...it is still >censored ...unless I post it in Morse Code! > > John > > Alan wrote: > >> John, >> >> Are YOU able to see this post in which Alias and I talk about his >> threads? >> >> Alan >> >> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.pew> wrote in message >> news:v-WdnWYdpOZFEcfVnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@posted.toastnet... >> >>>And in the 'SERVICE PACK 3 - Updated Help Needed...' thread that was >>>started by a poster named Stephen Blakely on 6/18/08 at 6:48 PM, there >>>was this exchange, below, between Alias and me. >>> >>>I'm posting this through my giganews account on June 19 at 12:42 PM, EDT. >>> >>> Alan >>> >>>"Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmailTHIS.com> wrote in message >>>news:g3e16t$7b6$1@aioe.org... >>> >>>>Alan wrote: >>>> >>>>>Alias, >>>>> >>>>>Not that you asked, but I'm just curious if you've seen some of the >>>>>posts that a few of us have been writing regarding your 'problems' with >>>>>posting on Microsoft servers? >>>>> >>>>> Alan >>>> >>>>No, I haven't seen them. What do they say? I do know that all my posts >>>>are censored on MS servers. I guess MS is scared of Ubuntu and >>>>rightfully so. MS would do well in China or Iran. >>>> >>>>Alias >>> >>>"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >>>news:eyXp0ci0IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >>>>In that case, if it's "fixed" I should be able to past the exact text >>>>that got the post banned yesterday and it should show on the server. I >>>>will give it anoter try. >>>> >>>>John >>>> >>>>Bob I wrote: >>>> >>>>>Humm, I think maybe a combo, or someone "fixed" it. >>>>> >>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I meant censored porn. >>>>>> >>>>>>John >>>>>> >>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Try it with p-o-r-n >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Trying censored and alias >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Guess not. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>maybe the word porn? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, >>>>>>>>>>>>my post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when >>>>>>>>>>>>Google was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my >>>>>>>>>>>>attempted repost made it on to their servers, under another >>>>>>>>>>>>account with just my short "John" name. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>(Look for post #27) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to >>>>>>>>>>>>the powers that be somewhere out there... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>You could make multiple posts each containing a single >>>>>>>>>>>>>sentence, and then you would know what tripped the "filter". >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show >>>>>>>>>>>>>>up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>like. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>post this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same message and another (new) one with slightly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>altered contents and the posts aren't showing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>12:03, 12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>has appeared yet the other one that I posted before this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>answer to Ron but the post hasn't been posted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bob I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears that now my posts to this thread are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>prevented from making it to the MS server, so even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mentioning the "A" name seems like reason enough to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>block posts! I guess the conversation is now over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>because I can no longer express my opinion about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>subject! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Badour wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>taken off a MS server merely because there were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>upon the request of the poster if there is a valid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>speech very seriously and does not arbitrarily remove >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posts just because they are critical of MS. With that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't know what might be objectionable in his posts if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they are indeed being removed. I would also be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>willing to bet that a person could lose his/her job at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest norm Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Re: Winodws XP John John (MVP) wrote: > Daave wrote: > >> Alias wrote: >> >>> Daave wrote: >>> >>>> Surely someone from Microsoft is removing the posts. But that doesn't >>>> make this a moderated newsgroup (strictly speaking). Posts on >>>> moderated newsgroups do not show up immediately. They are *all* >>>> reviewed first. That is why 4PeaceMirelle's silly post showed up >>>> (because this is not a moderated newsgroup). And that is why Alias's >>>> posts show up (and propagate and get archived on Google, etc., even >>>> if they are removed from the MS news server shortly after they are >>>> posted). If this group were moderated (again, in the generally >>>> accepted Usenet sense of the term), Alias's posts (and presumably >>>> 4PeaceMirelle's claptrap) would not show up in the first place and >>>> would therefore not propagate. >>> >>> Many, many times my posts never show up in the first place. >> >> >> This one did! > > Maybe because he didn't post anything controversial. But one of my post > won't make it to the servers... unless I post it in Morse Code! lol I > wonder what is in the post that forbids it on the servers. > > Mind you, I don't think that anyone is saying that anything and > everything should be allowed here, else we would have to wade through > tons of spam and f*r*e*e s\e\x junk, as is often the case on .alt > discussion groups. There has to be filtering and post removal going on > or else the groups would be swamped and everyone would be extremely > annoyed. But I think that along with the necessary filtering and post > removal someone is applying "other" rules of their own. > > John > Fwiw, a couple days ago I saw a warning in the vista general group from Colin Barnhorst about some drastic actions forthcoming in the groups concerning posts deemed inappropriate. The thread is "the powers that be". "Colin Barnhorst wrote: Suggestion: I really wish you guys would move on from this Adam NotSoBright stuff. It is entirely off-topic and is starting to result in some ugly looking actions from the powers-that-be." Quite possibly, Colin might have more info on what specifically is going on. -- norm
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