RE: Reasons to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

[Guest Casanova Fly]

RE: Reasons to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Don't listen to what people say about Vista not being a gaming OS. I think

they just assumed the backwards compatibility would be non-existant. Vista

has a clean interface that looks very nice. It's can utilize DirectX 10

(which is key unless you plan on having a system specifically to play games

from the 1990s). I was going to stick with XP because I listened to the

negativity, but my friend told me to go for it and so I did and I'm not

looking back. It's terrific. And in terms of playing old games, I bought

Hitman the week it came out back in 1999/2000. Before XP even existed, and it

installed on Vista no problem. I couldn't install it on XP either. So THERE.

The only game I couldn't play was original Doom, the original Windows 95

version. So it's your decision, Doom or Crysis. Crysis rocks the house, by

the way. Go Vista, you won't regret it. And it's not as buggy (for your

typical above-average-knowledge user like myself) as people, or those stupid

lame Mac commercials suggest.

[Guest cheley_bonstell88@live.com]

Re: Reasons to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Re: Reasons to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

On Jun 17, 8:59 pm, Casanova Fly

<Casanova...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Don't listen to what people say about Vista not being a gaming OS. I think

> they just assumed the backwards compatibility would be non-existant. Vista

> has a clean interface that looks very nice. It's can utilize DirectX 10

> (which is key unless you plan on having a system specifically to play games

> from the 1990s). I was going to stick with XP because I listened to the

> negativity, but my friend told me to go for it and so I did and I'm not

> looking back. It's terrific. And in terms of playing old games, I bought

> Hitman the week it came out back in 1999/2000. Before XP even existed, and it

> installed on Vista no problem. I couldn't install it on XP either. So THERE.

> The only game I couldn't play was original Doom, the original Windows 95

> version. So it's your decision, Doom or Crysis. Crysis rocks the house, by

> the way. Go Vista, you won't regret it. And it's not as buggy (for your

> typical above-average-knowledge user like myself) as people, or those stupid

> lame Mac commercials suggest.

 

- So ,

 

what advantages are there with Vista for the average user ?

 

- Check out the link below . .

 

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

[Guest oscar]

Re: Reasons to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Re: Reasons to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

In the spirit of good conversation I submit:

 

I have Vista on a Sony machine that was designed for Vista.

 

In the beginning, I didn't have time to learn Vista so I stumbled around

with it and had some frustrating experiences. But now that I've had time to

learn more and more about Vista's features, I question the test results that

shows XP to be 40% faster than Vista. I have 3 XP machines that are running

to the max speed (lots of memory, clean OS and no bloatware.) In contrast to

XP, my Vista machine which is running full speed with all the eye-candy,

including slide show gadgets, is faster than my XP's in most apllications.

For example, when I turn on my wireless adapter switch on Vista, my Vista

connects to the internet in 5 seconds or less. That's right. 5 seconds or

less. In contrast to my very fast, clean XP's that take much longer (30-60

seconds) and in many cases, I have to help XP connect by using XP Network

connect menus. The only problem I have with Vista is that the media player 11

can not handle some of my old video clips but the MP on XP can. I remedy that

with GOM.

 

In conclusion, I'm having good experiences with Vista since SP1 download and

with a few driver updates from my computer manufacturer.

 

I haven't even mentioned how Live Mail is performing incredibly well... and

fast. Or how the search functions of Vista make XP seem like a DOS based

system. Vista is more complicated and is asked to do more work that XP and in

most cases it does it faster.

 

So, as normal user/consumer, I say Vista is getting better.

 

One last thing- I've worked with a few Macs. They have their problems, too.

 

MS is going into the right direction with Vista.

 

cheers,

 

oscar

 

"cheley_bonstell88@live.com" wrote:

> On Jun 17, 8:59 pm, Casanova Fly

> <Casanova...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> > Don't listen to what people say about Vista not being a gaming OS. I think

> > they just assumed the backwards compatibility would be non-existant. Vista

> > has a clean interface that looks very nice. It's can utilize DirectX 10

> > (which is key unless you plan on having a system specifically to play games

> > from the 1990s). I was going to stick with XP because I listened to the

> > negativity, but my friend told me to go for it and so I did and I'm not

> > looking back. It's terrific. And in terms of playing old games, I bought

> > Hitman the week it came out back in 1999/2000. Before XP even existed, and it

> > installed on Vista no problem. I couldn't install it on XP either. So THERE.

> > The only game I couldn't play was original Doom, the original Windows 95

> > version. So it's your decision, Doom or Crysis. Crysis rocks the house, by

> > the way. Go Vista, you won't regret it. And it's not as buggy (for your

> > typical above-average-knowledge user like myself) as people, or those stupid

> > lame Mac commercials suggest.

>

> - So ,

>

> what advantages are there with Vista for the average user ?

>

> - Check out the link below . .

>

> http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

>

>

>

[Guest harvey]

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

On Jun 18, 10:04 am, gringott <gring...@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote:

> "Hans-Georg Michna" wrote:

> > On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:07:06 -0700 (PDT),

> > cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:

>

> > >what advantages are there with Vista for the average user ?

>

> > >- Check out the link below . .

>

> > >http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

>

Infoworld has apparently taken that article down. I certainly

could not open it at 2008-06-18 09:35 UTC.

>

> > Hans-Georg

> > --

> > No mail, please.

 

Works here >

 

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

 

 

Sad to see XP go away and, due to Vista,

 

force would -be PC users over to MAC and Linux

[Guest Bob I]

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

 

 

harvey wrote:

> On Jun 18, 10:04 am, gringott <gring...@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote:

>

>>"Hans-Georg Michna" wrote:

>>

>>>On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:07:06 -0700 (PDT),

>>>cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:

>>

>>>>what advantages are there with Vista for the average user ?

>>

>>>>- Check out the link below . .

>>

>>>>http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

>>

> Infoworld has apparently taken that article down. I certainly

> could not open it at 2008-06-18 09:35 UTC.

>

>>>Hans-Georg

>>>--

>>>No mail, please.

>

>

> Works here >

>

> http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

>

>

> Sad to see XP go away and, due to Vista,

>

> force would -be PC users over to MAC and Linux

>

 

XP isn't "going away", get a grip!

[Guest harvey]

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

On Jun 18, 1:44 pm, Bob I <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> harvey wrote:

> > On Jun 18, 10:04 am, gringott <gring...@discussions.microsoft.com>

> > wrote:

>

> >>"Hans-Georg Michna" wrote:

>

> >>>On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:07:06 -0700 (PDT),

> >>>cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:

>

> >>>>what advantages are there with Vista for the average user ?

>

> >>>>- Check out the link below . .

>

> >>>>http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

>

> >  Infoworld has apparently taken that article down. I certainly

> >  could not open it at 2008-06-18 09:35 UTC.

>

> >>>Hans-Georg

> >>>--

> >>>No mail, please.

>

> > Works here >

>

> >  http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

>

> > Sad to see XP go away and, due to Vista,

>

> >  force would -be PC users over to MAC and Linux

>

> XP isn't "going away", get a grip!

 

 

- Says here it is !!

 

http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/winxp_inspndt?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

 

Per the Microsoft® Windows Life-Cycle policy, Direct OEM and Retail

License Availability for Windows XP will End-Of-Life (EOL) on June 30,

2008. To meet Microsoft’s June 30 last-day-to-ship OEM Windows XP

deadline, June 18 is the last time to purchase a Dell laptop, desktop,

or workstation with an OEM Windows XP license.

 

- After That 'It's Vista, which is unacceptable, MAC, Linux or keep

feeding your current XP new parts.

 

- So, after June 30'th if you want a PC with a Decent Microsoft

Operating system

- You're totally hosed

 

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/

[Guest Bob I]

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

 

 

harvey wrote:

> On Jun 18, 1:44 pm, Bob I <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>>harvey wrote:

>>

>>>On Jun 18, 10:04 am, gringott <gring...@discussions.microsoft.com>

>>>wrote:

>>

>>>>"Hans-Georg Michna" wrote:

>>

>>>>>On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:07:06 -0700 (PDT),

>>>>>cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:

>>

>>>>>>what advantages are there with Vista for the average user ?

>>

>>>>>>- Check out the link below . .

>>

>>>>>>http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

>>

>>> Infoworld has apparently taken that article down. I certainly

>>> could not open it at 2008-06-18 09:35 UTC.

>>

>>>>>Hans-Georg

>>>>>--

>>>>>No mail, please.

>>

>>>Works here >

>>

>>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

>>

>>>Sad to see XP go away and, due to Vista,

>>

>>> force would -be PC users over to MAC and Linux

>>

>>XP isn't "going away", get a grip!

>

>

>

> - Says here it is !!

 

XP isn't "going away", you can use what you have, get a grip!

[Guest The Ghost In The Machine]

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Bob I

<birelan@yahoo.com>

wrote

on Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:47:53 -0500

<ufrtVSY0IHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>:

>

>

> harvey wrote:

>

>> On Jun 18, 1:44 pm, Bob I <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>

>>>harvey wrote:

>>>

>>>>On Jun 18, 10:04 am, gringott <gring...@discussions.microsoft.com>

>>>>wrote:

>>>

>>>>>"Hans-Georg Michna" wrote:

>>>

>>>>>>On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:07:06 -0700 (PDT),

>>>>>>cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:

>>>

>>>>>>>what advantages are there with Vista for the average user ?

>>>

>>>>>>>- Check out the link below . .

>>>

>>>>>>>http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

>>>

>>>> Infoworld has apparently taken that article down. I certainly

>>>> could not open it at 2008-06-18 09:35 UTC.

>>>

>>>>>>Hans-Georg

>>>>>>--

>>>>>>No mail, please.

>>>

>>>>Works here >

>>>

>>>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/17/12TC-vista-versus-xp_6.html

>>>

>>>>Sad to see XP go away and, due to Vista,

>>>

>>>> force would -be PC users over to MAC and Linux

>>>

>>>XP isn't "going away", get a grip!

>>

>>

>>

>> - Says here it is !!

>

> XP isn't "going away", you can use what you have, get a grip!

>

 

I dunno....I get the feeling "stealth upgrades" will

eventually transform XP into a crippled version of Vista

Home Basic. Of course one can forestall that by shutting

off access to update.microsoft.com or some such -- but

there's a few issues if one does so, mostly having to do

with security patches.

 

--

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(1) if one defines "multi" as "exactly one".

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[Guest Linonut]

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

* The Ghost In The Machine peremptorily fired off this memo:

>> XP isn't "going away", you can use what you have, get a grip!

>

> I dunno....I get the feeling "stealth upgrades" will

> eventually transform XP into a crippled version of Vista

> Home Basic. Of course one can forestall that by shutting

> off access to update.microsoft.com or some such -- but

> there's a few issues if one does so, mostly having to do

> with security patches.

 

And driver updates, application updates, library updates.

 

(Was just listening to guy at work telling me about a couple of friends'

machines losing some functionality due to up-yours^Wdates. Been there,

done that.)

 

But it can happen even in Debian (though it hasn't happened to my

boxes).

 

--

If I'd had some set idea of a finish line, don't you think I would have

crossed it years ago?

-- Bill Gates

[Guest Hadron]

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Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Linonut <linonut@bollsouth.nut> writes:

> * The Ghost In The Machine peremptorily fired off this memo:

>

>>> XP isn't "going away", you can use what you have, get a grip!

>>

>> I dunno....I get the feeling "stealth upgrades" will

>> eventually transform XP into a crippled version of Vista

>> Home Basic. Of course one can forestall that by shutting

>> off access to update.microsoft.com or some such -- but

>> there's a few issues if one does so, mostly having to do

>> with security patches.

>

> And driver updates, application updates, library updates.

 

So?

>

> (Was just listening to guy at work telling me about a couple of friends'

> machines losing some functionality due to up-yours^Wdates. Been there,

> done that.)

 

Sure... Sure ....

>

> But it can happen even in Debian (though it hasn't happened to my

> boxes).

 

Exactly ... so your point is what?

 

--

"There is no such thing as Intellectual Property"

Mark Kent

Head of Technology Strategy, BT Global

COLA Hypocrite

[Guest Phisherman]

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:08:26 +0200, Hadron

<hadronquark@googlemail.com> wrote:

>Linonut <linonut@bollsouth.nut> writes:

>

>> * The Ghost In The Machine peremptorily fired off this memo:

>>

>>>> XP isn't "going away", you can use what you have, get a grip!

>>>

>>> I dunno....I get the feeling "stealth upgrades" will

>>> eventually transform XP into a crippled version of Vista

>>> Home Basic. Of course one can forestall that by shutting

>>> off access to update.microsoft.com or some such -- but

>>> there's a few issues if one does so, mostly having to do

>>> with security patches.

>>

>> And driver updates, application updates, library updates.

>

>So?

>

>>

>> (Was just listening to guy at work telling me about a couple of friends'

>> machines losing some functionality due to up-yours^Wdates. Been there,

>> done that.)

>

>Sure... Sure ....

>>

>> But it can happen even in Debian (though it hasn't happened to my

>> boxes).

>

>Exactly ... so your point is what?

 

 

XP is not going away after this month, but Microsoft is planning on

adding a $50 charge if you want XP rather than Vista.

[Guest Bob I]

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

Re: Reasons Not to Buy Microsoft Vista at this time

 

 

 

Phisherman wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:08:26 +0200, Hadron

> <hadronquark@googlemail.com> wrote:

>

>

>>Linonut <linonut@bollsouth.nut> writes:

>>

>>

>>>* The Ghost In The Machine peremptorily fired off this memo:

>>>

>>>

>>>>>XP isn't "going away", you can use what you have, get a grip!

>>>>

>>>>I dunno....I get the feeling "stealth upgrades" will

>>>>eventually transform XP into a crippled version of Vista

>>>>Home Basic. Of course one can forestall that by shutting

>>>>off access to update.microsoft.com or some such -- but

>>>>there's a few issues if one does so, mostly having to do

>>>>with security patches.

>>>

>>>And driver updates, application updates, library updates.

>>

>>So?

>>

>>

>>>(Was just listening to guy at work telling me about a couple of friends'

>>>machines losing some functionality due to up-yours^Wdates. Been there,

>>>done that.)

>>

>>Sure... Sure ....

>>

>>>But it can happen even in Debian (though it hasn't happened to my

>>>boxes).

>>

>>Exactly ... so your point is what?

>

>

>

> XP is not going away after this month, but Microsoft is planning on

> adding a $50 charge if you want XP rather than Vista.

 

No they aren't. On the other hand Dell will do that for 50 bucks.