unplug DC and use Replica DC

[Guest Hernan Batista]

Hi friends, I already install a new server and with DCPROMO right now it is

a Replica DC of my domain. Now, my question is: Can I just shutdown my

actual DC and the Replica DC will act as the new DC ? or should I do

something before? is something related to "delegate control" ?

 

thanks men

 

HB

[Guest Danny Sanders]

Re: unplug DC and use Replica DC

 

If the first DC is providing DNS and DHCP you need to account for that.

 

 

hth

DDS

 

"Hernan Batista" <noreply@cantv> wrote in message

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> Hi friends, I already install a new server and with DCPROMO right now it

> is a Replica DC of my domain. Now, my question is: Can I just shutdown my

> actual DC and the Replica DC will act as the new DC ? or should I do

> something before? is something related to "delegate control" ?

>

> thanks men

>

> HB

>

[Guest Hernan Batista]

Re: unplug DC and use Replica DC

 

Hi Mr Danny, actually is only providing Active Directory.... so, Can I just

shut it down and begin using the Replica as DC?

 

What is Delegate Control? is related to this topic?

 

HB

 

"Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> escribió en el mensaje

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> If the first DC is providing DNS and DHCP you need to account for that.

>

>

> hth

> DDS

>

> "Hernan Batista" <noreply@cantv> wrote in message

> news:%23%239Ln3V0IHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Hi friends, I already install a new server and with DCPROMO right now it

>> is a Replica DC of my domain. Now, my question is: Can I just shutdown my

>> actual DC and the Replica DC will act as the new DC ? or should I do

>> something before? is something related to "delegate control" ?

>>

>> thanks men

>>

>> HB

>>

>

>

[Guest Danny Sanders]

Re: unplug DC and use Replica DC

 

Delegate control has nothing to do with this.

 

If all it's providing is AD then you can turn it off.............but why? If

this is production there is a lot of value in having a second DC on the

domain incase the first one fails.

 

 

hth

DDS

 

"Hernan Batista" <noreply@cantv> wrote in message

news:%23ZucnGW0IHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Hi Mr Danny, actually is only providing Active Directory.... so, Can I

> just shut it down and begin using the Replica as DC?

>

> What is Delegate Control? is related to this topic?

>

> HB

>

> "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> escribió en el mensaje

> news:e29%23jCW0IHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> If the first DC is providing DNS and DHCP you need to account for that.

>>

>>

>> hth

>> DDS

>>

>> "Hernan Batista" <noreply@cantv> wrote in message

>> news:%23%239Ln3V0IHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Hi friends, I already install a new server and with DCPROMO right now it

>>> is a Replica DC of my domain. Now, my question is: Can I just shutdown

>>> my actual DC and the Replica DC will act as the new DC ? or should I do

>>> something before? is something related to "delegate control" ?

>>>

>>> thanks men

>>>

>>> HB

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest Hernan Batista]

Re: unplug DC and use Replica DC

 

Hi Danny, thanks for your soon answer, I need to shut it down to reimage it

(format), and for a while use the Replica as DC, then restart again the

fresh DC.... by the way, with the same procedure (using DCPROMO) can I

return the fresh DC as the Main DC?

 

HB

 

"Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> escribió en el mensaje

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> Delegate control has nothing to do with this.

>

> If all it's providing is AD then you can turn it off.............but why?

> If this is production there is a lot of value in having a second DC on the

> domain incase the first one fails.

>

>

> hth

> DDS

>

> "Hernan Batista" <noreply@cantv> wrote in message

> news:%23ZucnGW0IHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Hi Mr Danny, actually is only providing Active Directory.... so, Can I

>> just shut it down and begin using the Replica as DC?

>>

>> What is Delegate Control? is related to this topic?

>>

>> HB

>>

>> "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> escribió en el mensaje

>> news:e29%23jCW0IHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> If the first DC is providing DNS and DHCP you need to account for that.

>>>

>>>

>>> hth

>>> DDS

>>>

>>> "Hernan Batista" <noreply@cantv> wrote in message

>>> news:%23%239Ln3V0IHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> Hi friends, I already install a new server and with DCPROMO right now

>>>> it is a Replica DC of my domain. Now, my question is: Can I just

>>>> shutdown my actual DC and the Replica DC will act as the new DC ? or

>>>> should I do something before? is something related to "delegate

>>>> control" ?

>>>>

>>>> thanks men

>>>>

>>>> HB

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest Florian Frommherz [MVP]]

Re: unplug DC and use Replica DC

 

Howdie!

 

Hernan Batista schrieb:

> Hi Danny, thanks for your soon answer, I need to shut it down to reimage it

> (format), and for a while use the Replica as DC, then restart again the

> fresh DC.... by the way, with the same procedure (using DCPROMO) can I

> return the fresh DC as the Main DC?

 

In that case, make sure the new server is Global Catalog (GC) by

checking the box Active Directory Sites and Services on the NTDS

settings. Also make sure you transfer the five FSMO roles the first DC has:

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324801

http://www.petri.co.il/transferring_fsmo_roles.htm

 

Check whether DNS is Active Directory Integrated and if not, configure

it so. Wait for it to replicate and direct all clients to use the 2nd

DC's ip as the preferred DNS server. Before you *finally* shut down the

first DC, I suggest you plug off DC's network cable for a while to see

whether there arise issues if it is offline.

 

Unless you *really* have reason to remove the machine from operating, I

suggest you leave it online. To be honest, it seems like you're not very

experienced with AD administration - which actually is not a bad thing -

and I really suggest you consider consulting some external help (a

consultant, trainer, migrator, whatever) to help you get things sorted

(or a least a plan on catching up AD specific administration tasks).

 

cheers,

 

Florian

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[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: unplug DC and use Replica DC

 

Hello Hernan,

 

If the new DC is also DNS server and DHCP, if you are not using fixed ip's.

Additional make the new DC Global catalog server BEFORE shutdown the first

one. Also the clients has to know the new DNS server, otherwise they can

not logon, because they have to contact a DNS server to find the domain controller.

 

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> Hi friends, I already install a new server and with DCPROMO right now

> it is a Replica DC of my domain. Now, my question is: Can I just

> shutdown my actual DC and the Replica DC will act as the new DC ? or

> should I do something before? is something related to "delegate

> control" ?

>

> thanks men

>

> HB

>

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: unplug DC and use Replica DC

 

Hello Hernan,

 

Delegate control configurations are stored in AD so if the replication is

done completely before shutdown the old one, no problem and effect.

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> Hi Mr Danny, actually is only providing Active Directory.... so, Can I

> just shut it down and begin using the Replica as DC?

>

> What is Delegate Control? is related to this topic?

>

> HB

>

> "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> escribió en el mensaje

> news:e29%23jCW0IHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>

>> If the first DC is providing DNS and DHCP you need to account for

>> that.

>>

>> hth

>> DDS

>> "Hernan Batista" <noreply@cantv> wrote in message

>> news:%23%239Ln3V0IHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>

>>> Hi friends, I already install a new server and with DCPROMO right

>>> now it is a Replica DC of my domain. Now, my question is: Can I just

>>> shutdown my actual DC and the Replica DC will act as the new DC ? or

>>> should I do something before? is something related to "delegate

>>> control" ?

>>>

>>> thanks men

>>>

>>> HB

>>>

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: unplug DC and use Replica DC

 

Hello Hernan,

 

Please do not image a DC, additional you wrote format, what is the correct

way. Imaging and reinstalling a DC results very often in problems, because

the Update sequence numbers from AD are creating conflicts.

 

If you remove the DC this way without demoting, what will be the correct

way, the entry is still existing in Active directory and has to be removed

from the database by hand with ntdsutil according to this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498

 

As another step you have to seize the 5 FSMO roles to the existing DC according

to this:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255504

 

So try to FIRST move/transfer the FSMO roles before shutting down:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324801

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> Hi Danny, thanks for your soon answer, I need to shut it down to

> reimage it (format), and for a while use the Replica as DC, then

> restart again the fresh DC.... by the way, with the same procedure

> (using DCPROMO) can I return the fresh DC as the Main DC?

>

> HB

>

> "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> escribió en el mensaje

> news:ee6KHRW0IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>

>> Delegate control has nothing to do with this.

>>

>> If all it's providing is AD then you can turn it off.............but

>> why? If this is production there is a lot of value in having a second

>> DC on the domain incase the first one fails.

>>

>> hth

>> DDS

>> "Hernan Batista" <noreply@cantv> wrote in message

>> news:%23ZucnGW0IHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>

>>> Hi Mr Danny, actually is only providing Active Directory.... so, Can

>>> I just shut it down and begin using the Replica as DC?

>>>

>>> What is Delegate Control? is related to this topic?

>>>

>>> HB

>>>

>>> "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> escribió en el mensaje

>>> news:e29%23jCW0IHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>> If the first DC is providing DNS and DHCP you need to account for

>>>> that.

>>>>

>>>> hth

>>>> DDS

>>>> "Hernan Batista" <noreply@cantv> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23%239Ln3V0IHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>> Hi friends, I already install a new server and with DCPROMO right

>>>>> now it is a Replica DC of my domain. Now, my question is: Can I

>>>>> just shutdown my actual DC and the Replica DC will act as the new

>>>>> DC ? or should I do something before? is something related to

>>>>> "delegate control" ?

>>>>>

>>>>> thanks men

>>>>>

>>>>> HB

>>>>>

[Guest Hank Arnold (MVP)]

Re: unplug DC and use Replica DC

 

Also, the "replica" needs to be a GC.

 

--

 

Regards,

Hank Arnold

Microsoft MVP

Windows Server - Directory Services

 

Danny Sanders wrote:

> If the first DC is providing DNS and DHCP you need to account for that.

>

>

> hth

> DDS

>

> "Hernan Batista" <noreply@cantv> wrote in message

> news:%23%239Ln3V0IHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Hi friends, I already install a new server and with DCPROMO right now it

>> is a Replica DC of my domain. Now, my question is: Can I just shutdown my

>> actual DC and the Replica DC will act as the new DC ? or should I do

>> something before? is something related to "delegate control" ?

>>

>> thanks men

>>

>> HB

>>

>

>

[Guest Hernan Batista]

Re: unplug DC and use Replica DC

 

Hi Mr Weber, thanks for all your help, how can I convert my new DC in GC? is

something similar as moving FSMO? do you know a technet link with a

step-by-step?

 

HB

 

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

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> Hello Hernan,

>

> If the new DC is also DNS server and DHCP, if you are not using fixed

> ip's. Additional make the new DC Global catalog server BEFORE shutdown the

> first one. Also the clients has to know the new DNS server, otherwise they

> can not logon, because they have to contact a DNS server to find the

> domain controller.

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>

>> Hi friends, I already install a new server and with DCPROMO right now

>> it is a Replica DC of my domain. Now, my question is: Can I just

>> shutdown my actual DC and the Replica DC will act as the new DC ? or

>> should I do something before? is something related to "delegate

>> control" ?

>>

>> thanks men

>>

>> HB

>>

>

>

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: unplug DC and use Replica DC

 

Hello Hernan,

 

See here:

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=313994)

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> Hi Mr Weber, thanks for all your help, how can I convert my new DC in

> GC? is something similar as moving FSMO? do you know a technet link

> with a step-by-step?

>

> HB

>

> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

> news:ff16fb66a192e8caa06f3cf66901@msnews.microsoft.com...

>

>> Hello Hernan,

>>

>> If the new DC is also DNS server and DHCP, if you are not using fixed

>> ip's. Additional make the new DC Global catalog server BEFORE

>> shutdown the first one. Also the clients has to know the new DNS

>> server, otherwise they can not logon, because they have to contact a

>> DNS server to find the domain controller.

>>

>> Best regards

>>

>> Meinolf Weber

>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>> confers no rights.

>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>> Hi friends, I already install a new server and with DCPROMO right

>>> now it is a Replica DC of my domain. Now, my question is: Can I just

>>> shutdown my actual DC and the Replica DC will act as the new DC ? or

>>> should I do something before? is something related to "delegate

>>> control" ?

>>>

>>> thanks men

>>>

>>> HB

>>>