Wireless Access Windows 98SE

June 22, 2008

I'm trying to interconnect my desktop machine which is wired to a D-Link

G604T Wireless Modem / Router, and a D-Link DWL-G630 Wireless CardBus Adapter

in my Windows 98SE Tecra 8000 Laptop. The Tecra is unlikely to be able to

support Win 2000, or better.

The Tecra has successfully installed the card and can 'see' the network, but

won't communicate (e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.

The same card in another laptop equipped with XP worked fine after

relatively straightforward setup, with WPA enabled.

I can only get the Tecra to work with WEP enabled, and then it works fine.

However, that means everything has to be WEP (rather than WPA). There is

nothing in the Card's manual regarding whether WPA works with Win 98SE.

I have a sneaking suspicion that, although the card is compatible with Win

98, Win 98 doesn't support WPA. The WEP appears to support a hex key and

that's what I'm using in both machines.

Can you confirm that?

Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?

If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?

June 22, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

Not personally familiar with the device, from the site:

"* Maximum wireless signal rate derived from IEEE Standard 802.11g

specifications. Actual data throughput will vary. Network conditions and

environmental factors, including volume of network traffic, building

materials and construction, and network overhead, lower actual data

throughput rate. Environmental factors will adversely affect wireless signal

range.

** WPA and 802.1x requires use of the Windows® XP Zero Configuration

Utility."

Might look at for card version identification:

http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp?productid=DWL%2DG630

ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg630/Manual/dwlg630_manual_101.zip

WEP will provide very little protection, though it is better than none. It

does appear there is/was an issue with the Atheros chip AND a version or so

of the software

The ATHCFG11.DLL file is linked to missing export

IPHLPAPI.DLL:GetPerAdapterInfo

http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57976

http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/showpost.php?s=3257a81acb90bb568600a19a0bf93969&p=304141&postcount=6

so you may want to look at what driver/software version you have and maybe

try an older or different one...

Your computer specs:

http://www.westworldcomputers.com/toshiba_tecra_8000_specs_page.htm

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"A Team" <A Team@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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| I'm trying to interconnect my desktop machine which is wired to a D-Link

| G604T Wireless Modem / Router, and a D-Link DWL-G630 Wireless CardBus

Adapter

| in my Windows 98SE Tecra 8000 Laptop. The Tecra is unlikely to be able to

| support Win 2000, or better.

|

| The Tecra has successfully installed the card and can 'see' the network,

but

| won't communicate (e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.

|

| The same card in another laptop equipped with XP worked fine after

| relatively straightforward setup, with WPA enabled.

|

| I can only get the Tecra to work with WEP enabled, and then it works fine.

| However, that means everything has to be WEP (rather than WPA). There is

| nothing in the Card's manual regarding whether WPA works with Win 98SE.

|

| I have a sneaking suspicion that, although the card is compatible with Win

| 98, Win 98 doesn't support WPA. The WEP appears to support a hex key and

| that's what I'm using in both machines.

|

| Can you confirm that?

| Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?

| If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?

June 24, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:34:01 -0700, A Team <A

Team@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>I'm trying to interconnect my desktop machine which is wired to a D-Link

>G604T Wireless Modem / Router, and a D-Link DWL-G630 Wireless CardBus Adapter

>in my Windows 98SE Tecra 8000 Laptop. The Tecra is unlikely to be able to

>support Win 2000, or better.

>

>The Tecra has successfully installed the card and can 'see' the network, but

>won't communicate (e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.

>

>The same card in another laptop equipped with XP worked fine after

>relatively straightforward setup, with WPA enabled.

>

>I can only get the Tecra to work with WEP enabled, and then it works fine.

>However, that means everything has to be WEP (rather than WPA). There is

>nothing in the Card's manual regarding whether WPA works with Win 98SE.

>

>I have a sneaking suspicion that, although the card is compatible with Win

>98, Win 98 doesn't support WPA. The WEP appears to support a hex key and

>that's what I'm using in both machines.

>

>Can you confirm that?

>Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?

>If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?

I don't have any answers, only some general questions directed to

anyone who understands the technology.

Is encryption handled at the hardware level by the wireless card or by

a software driver or network protocol or application? I notice that

the configuration application for the wireless card has a checkbox for

data encryption, but this sets up WEP only. There is no other

encryption option.

Is WPA/WPA-2 handled at the OS level, and if so, does this mean that

Win98SE cannot support this feature, or can it be provided by the

card's driver?

My reading of Wikipedia's WPA/WPA-2 article suggests that these

encryption standards can be retrofitted to older hardware via firmware

upgrades. Does this apply only to wireless routers or can cards be

upgraded as well? Are cards in fact upgradable at all, or are they

like winmodems in that their functions are handled mostly by host

software?

- Franc Zabkar

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June 24, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

Could have a lengthy discussion I suppose, but how about a link that might

help spark the discussion first:

http://www.circuitcellar.com/ - CIRCUIT CELLAR By Engineers, For Engineers

Caution - lots of scripts and code on this site. Dang, I hate these types

of sites. Good magazine though... try the archives ...

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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

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| On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:34:01 -0700, A Team <A

| Team@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

|

| >I'm trying to interconnect my desktop machine which is wired to a D-Link

| >G604T Wireless Modem / Router, and a D-Link DWL-G630 Wireless CardBus

Adapter

| >in my Windows 98SE Tecra 8000 Laptop. The Tecra is unlikely to be able to

| >support Win 2000, or better.

| >

| >The Tecra has successfully installed the card and can 'see' the network,

but

| >won't communicate (e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.

| >

| >The same card in another laptop equipped with XP worked fine after

| >relatively straightforward setup, with WPA enabled.

| >

| >I can only get the Tecra to work with WEP enabled, and then it works

fine.

| >However, that means everything has to be WEP (rather than WPA). There is

| >nothing in the Card's manual regarding whether WPA works with Win 98SE.

| >

| >I have a sneaking suspicion that, although the card is compatible with

Win

| >98, Win 98 doesn't support WPA. The WEP appears to support a hex key and

| >that's what I'm using in both machines.

| >

| >Can you confirm that?

| >Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?

| >If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?

|

| I don't have any answers, only some general questions directed to

| anyone who understands the technology.

|

| Is encryption handled at the hardware level by the wireless card or by

| a software driver or network protocol or application? I notice that

| the configuration application for the wireless card has a checkbox for

| data encryption, but this sets up WEP only. There is no other

| encryption option.

|

| Is WPA/WPA-2 handled at the OS level, and if so, does this mean that

| Win98SE cannot support this feature, or can it be provided by the

| card's driver?

|

| My reading of Wikipedia's WPA/WPA-2 article suggests that these

| encryption standards can be retrofitted to older hardware via firmware

| upgrades. Does this apply only to wireless routers or can cards be

| upgraded as well? Are cards in fact upgradable at all, or are they

| like winmodems in that their functions are handled mostly by host

| software?

|

| - Franc Zabkar

| --

| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

June 24, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:35:10 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>

> Could have a lengthy discussion I suppose, but how about a link that might

>help spark the discussion first:

>

>http://www.circuitcellar.com/ - CIRCUIT CELLAR By Engineers, For Engineers

> Caution - lots of scripts and code on this site. Dang, I hate these types

>of sites. Good magazine though... try the archives ...

>

>--

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

Sorry, I didn't find anything there. Anyway, the reason I asked those

questions was that the answers may determine whether it is in fact

possible for the OP to do what he/she wants. If not, then I would

think that wireless networking via Win98, being limited to WEP, would

be inadvisable from a security point of view.

Having said that, I suspect that there are huge numbers of unprotected

wireless networks in domestic use. A friend recently asked me to

determine why it was that she was no longer able to connect to the

Internet via her hard-wired Win98SE box and her wireless laptop at the

same time, after her ISP had upgraded her from ADSL to ADSL+ (by

upgrading the DSLAM). The solution was to enable NAT in her router (ie

the ADSL+ upgrade was not the cause of her problem), which then begged

the question, if NAT had previously been disabled, then how had she

achieved simultaneous Internet access? The answer appears to be that

her laptop had unknowingly been accessing the Internet via a

neighbour's insecure wireless network.

- Franc Zabkar

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June 24, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

The prior link's intent was to direct to the usual "Well, it depends".

Interspersed in the articles and downloads, are codings, discussions of

programmable chips, USB device creation, embedded OSs, and other.

Depending upon the USB device, its chip(s) and their programmability [chip

specific or if programmable, whether the programming connections had been

"cut" or not, any "memory", etc.], and the correct programming software, it

MIGHT be possible to change the USB chip hard code to something that

provides that support. It would appear though, that potentially may not be

enough, particularly IF the USB device was intended for use elsewhere [like

in XP or VISTA, where the Zero Configuration tool might be used], or still

required its interface software to provide other functions.

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|

| Could have a lengthy discussion I suppose, but how about a link that

might

| help spark the discussion first:

|

| http://www.circuitcellar.com/ - CIRCUIT CELLAR By Engineers, For Engineers

| Caution - lots of scripts and code on this site. Dang, I hate these types

| of sites. Good magazine though... try the archives ...

|

| --

| MEB

| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| --

| _________

|

| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

| news:8f3164pmqdaqkonlfmr9lgmp5h24o6o9te@4ax.com...

| | On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:34:01 -0700, A Team <A

| | Team@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

| |

| | >I'm trying to interconnect my desktop machine which is wired to a

D-Link

| | >G604T Wireless Modem / Router, and a D-Link DWL-G630 Wireless CardBus

| Adapter

| | >in my Windows 98SE Tecra 8000 Laptop. The Tecra is unlikely to be able

to

| | >support Win 2000, or better.

| | >

| | >The Tecra has successfully installed the card and can 'see' the

network,

| but

| | >won't communicate (e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.

| | >

| | >The same card in another laptop equipped with XP worked fine after

| | >relatively straightforward setup, with WPA enabled.

| | >

| | >I can only get the Tecra to work with WEP enabled, and then it works

| fine.

| | >However, that means everything has to be WEP (rather than WPA). There

is

| | >nothing in the Card's manual regarding whether WPA works with Win 98SE.

| | >

| | >I have a sneaking suspicion that, although the card is compatible with

| Win

| | >98, Win 98 doesn't support WPA. The WEP appears to support a hex key

and

| | >that's what I'm using in both machines.

| | >

| | >Can you confirm that?

| | >Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?

| | >If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?

| |

| | I don't have any answers, only some general questions directed to

| | anyone who understands the technology.

| |

| | Is encryption handled at the hardware level by the wireless card or by

| | a software driver or network protocol or application? I notice that

| | the configuration application for the wireless card has a checkbox for

| | data encryption, but this sets up WEP only. There is no other

| | encryption option.

| |

| | Is WPA/WPA-2 handled at the OS level, and if so, does this mean that

| | Win98SE cannot support this feature, or can it be provided by the

| | card's driver?

| |

| | My reading of Wikipedia's WPA/WPA-2 article suggests that these

| | encryption standards can be retrofitted to older hardware via firmware

| | upgrades. Does this apply only to wireless routers or can cards be

| | upgraded as well? Are cards in fact upgradable at all, or are they

| | like winmodems in that their functions are handled mostly by host

| | software?

| |

| | - Franc Zabkar

| | --

| | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

|

June 25, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

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| On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:35:10 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

| put finger to keyboard and composed:

|

| >

| > Could have a lengthy discussion I suppose, but how about a link that

might

| >help spark the discussion first:

| >

| >http://www.circuitcellar.com/ - CIRCUIT CELLAR By Engineers, For

Engineers

| > Caution - lots of scripts and code on this site. Dang, I hate these

types

| >of sites. Good magazine though... try the archives ...

| >

| >--

| > MEB

| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|

| Sorry, I didn't find anything there. Anyway, the reason I asked those

| questions was that the answers may determine whether it is in fact

| possible for the OP to do what he/she wants. If not, then I would

| think that wireless networking via Win98, being limited to WEP, would

| be inadvisable from a security point of view.

Right, I got the tenor of your original post. The answer is hardware/chip

or chipset support. The encryption and other can, could, and should be

handled within the USB wireless device.

WEP would indeed be a limited security to use but anything beyond a few

hundred feet away wouldn't be able to affect the network very much. The

range of the devices is not that great. Stacked apartment dwellers and

closely placed housing units are likely the most vulnerable.

Security, in general, is based upon deterance. Determined indivduals will

break into almost any security if given the chance. Living/networking in

cities increases the need for more security in general and secure access

points, obviously.

|

| Having said that, I suspect that there are huge numbers of unprotected

| wireless networks in domestic use. A friend recently asked me to

| determine why it was that she was no longer able to connect to the

| Internet via her hard-wired Win98SE box and her wireless laptop at the

| same time, after her ISP had upgraded her from ADSL to ADSL+ (by

| upgrading the DSLAM). The solution was to enable NAT in her router (ie

| the ADSL+ upgrade was not the cause of her problem), which then begged

| the question, if NAT had previously been disabled, then how had she

| achieved simultaneous Internet access? The answer appears to be that

| her laptop had unknowingly been accessing the Internet via a

| neighbour's insecure wireless network.

|

| - Franc Zabkar

| --

| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

The number of unprotected and under-protected wireless networks would be

astounding, I'm sure.

Most people never change the default passwords or use simple to guess

passwords, and know little beyond what was needed to install the wireless

units.

Moreover, many never even use WEP in their networks, they are wide open

[such as in the network you mentioned]; and when enabled, never make or

change WEP Keys.

The 802.11i standard [WPA2} can and is implemented via hardware.

WPA/WPA-PSK came with updates to XPSP1 {Update 815485} and is/was part of

802.11b [a supplement]. Early vendors included support in their own software

[supplicant support] and hardware for 9X [generally only SE], now, its

difficult to find.

Older 802.11b products may or may not be upgradeable, depending on the

vendor. If you own 802.11b equipment, check with the vendor to see if

upgrades will be offered for your particular product(s). Newer 802.11g or

multi-mode 802.11a/g equipment is what is now generally found, though you

may be using the n version..

Should the manufacturer not supply 98SE supplicant, some users have

resorted to experimentation, and found that there were others that MIGHT

work, such as:

Funk Software Odyssey client or Aegis.

Some have also found that using certain drivers/supplicants from other

vendors would work with their devices, such as:

ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520/Apps/dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip

Though as always, this is experimentation... YMMV....

Interestingly, many MVPs know of these issues and potential fixes, but

rarely post them... particularly here....

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http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

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June 25, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

Sorry Franc, not fully holding up my end:

Here's the standards:

http://ieee802.org/1/

http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/802.1.html

Here's the update for 2000:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313664

KB313664 - Using 802.1x authentication on client computers that are running

Windows 2000

This was included in SP4

http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/

wpa_supplicant is a WPA Supplicant for Linux, BSD, Mac OS X, and Windows

with support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i / RSN).

{tested with XP, 2000 per developer}

Articles:

http://www.wireless-center.net/Mobile-and-Wireless/IEEE-802.1X-Authentication.html

http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/tip/1,289483,sid7_gci872324,00.html -

2003 - dated material

AND:

Microsoft also announced 802.1X Authentication Client packages for Windows

98, ME, and NT 4.0 Workstation, available to customers with support

contracts. Key being SUPPORT CONTRACTS...

It would be interesting if some of those made it to the NET.

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"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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|

| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

| news:45o26491jg2ans5o1skuj274in2m6l43e7@4ax.com...

| | On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:35:10 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

| | put finger to keyboard and composed:

| |

| | >

| | > Could have a lengthy discussion I suppose, but how about a link that

| might

| | >help spark the discussion first:

| | >

| | >http://www.circuitcellar.com/ - CIRCUIT CELLAR By Engineers, For

| Engineers

| | > Caution - lots of scripts and code on this site. Dang, I hate these

| types

| | >of sites. Good magazine though... try the archives ...

| | >

| | >--

| | > MEB

| | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| |

| | Sorry, I didn't find anything there. Anyway, the reason I asked those

| | questions was that the answers may determine whether it is in fact

| | possible for the OP to do what he/she wants. If not, then I would

| | think that wireless networking via Win98, being limited to WEP, would

| | be inadvisable from a security point of view.

|

| Right, I got the tenor of your original post. The answer is hardware/chip

| or chipset support. The encryption and other can, could, and should be

| handled within the USB wireless device.

|

| WEP would indeed be a limited security to use but anything beyond a few

| hundred feet away wouldn't be able to affect the network very much. The

| range of the devices is not that great. Stacked apartment dwellers and

| closely placed housing units are likely the most vulnerable.

| Security, in general, is based upon deterance. Determined indivduals will

| break into almost any security if given the chance. Living/networking in

| cities increases the need for more security in general and secure access

| points, obviously.

|

| |

| | Having said that, I suspect that there are huge numbers of unprotected

| | wireless networks in domestic use. A friend recently asked me to

| | determine why it was that she was no longer able to connect to the

| | Internet via her hard-wired Win98SE box and her wireless laptop at the

| | same time, after her ISP had upgraded her from ADSL to ADSL+ (by

| | upgrading the DSLAM). The solution was to enable NAT in her router (ie

| | the ADSL+ upgrade was not the cause of her problem), which then begged

| | the question, if NAT had previously been disabled, then how had she

| | achieved simultaneous Internet access? The answer appears to be that

| | her laptop had unknowingly been accessing the Internet via a

| | neighbour's insecure wireless network.

| |

| | - Franc Zabkar

| | --

| | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

|

| The number of unprotected and under-protected wireless networks would be

| astounding, I'm sure.

| Most people never change the default passwords or use simple to guess

| passwords, and know little beyond what was needed to install the wireless

| units.

| Moreover, many never even use WEP in their networks, they are wide open

| [such as in the network you mentioned]; and when enabled, never make or

| change WEP Keys.

|

| The 802.11i standard [WPA2} can and is implemented via hardware.

| WPA/WPA-PSK came with updates to XPSP1 {Update 815485} and is/was part of

| 802.11b [a supplement]. Early vendors included support in their own

software

| [supplicant support] and hardware for 9X [generally only SE], now, its

| difficult to find.

| Older 802.11b products may or may not be upgradeable, depending on the

| vendor. If you own 802.11b equipment, check with the vendor to see if

| upgrades will be offered for your particular product(s). Newer 802.11g or

| multi-mode 802.11a/g equipment is what is now generally found, though you

| may be using the n version..

|

| Should the manufacturer not supply 98SE supplicant, some users have

| resorted to experimentation, and found that there were others that MIGHT

| work, such as:

| Funk Software Odyssey client or Aegis.

|

| Some have also found that using certain drivers/supplicants from other

| vendors would work with their devices, such as:

| ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520/Apps/dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip

|

| Though as always, this is experimentation... YMMV....

|

| Interestingly, many MVPs know of these issues and potential fixes, but

| rarely post them... particularly here....

|

| --

| MEB

| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| --

| _________

|

June 28, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:05:54 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

> The 802.11i standard [WPA2} can and is implemented via hardware.

>WPA/WPA-PSK came with updates to XPSP1 {Update 815485} and is/was part of

>802.11b [a supplement]. Early vendors included support in their own software

>[supplicant support] and hardware for 9X [generally only SE], now, its

>difficult to find.

> Older 802.11b products may or may not be upgradeable, depending on the

>vendor. If you own 802.11b equipment, check with the vendor to see if

>upgrades will be offered for your particular product(s). Newer 802.11g or

>multi-mode 802.11a/g equipment is what is now generally found, though you

>may be using the n version..

>

> Should the manufacturer not supply 98SE supplicant, some users have

>resorted to experimentation, and found that there were others that MIGHT

>work, such as:

>Funk Software Odyssey client or Aegis.

>

> Some have also found that using certain drivers/supplicants from other

>vendors would work with their devices, such as:

>ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520/Apps/dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip

I found the following two articles useful, even though they are aimed

at users of Win XP.

Implement WPA2-Personal wireless security on a Windows XP SP2-based

computer:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/expert/bowman_wirelesssecurity.mspx

WPA Wireless Security for Home Networks:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_03july28.mspx

The author refers to the same DWLG520 device that you have linked to

above. She claims that its drivers may provide WAP-2 support for the

OP's "D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G630 Wireless Cardbus Adapter", although

the INF file calls out Rev D of that particular card. The OP's card,

if it is a different Rev, may not use the same chipset.

She claims she was able to obtain WPA-2 support (under XP) for her

DWL-G650 cards from the following archive:

ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520_revB/Drivers/dwlg520_revB3_drivers_318.zip

I have successfully installed the above software on my Win98SE box

although I don't have any wireless cards. I notice that the

AirPlusCFG.exe file (D-Link AirPlus Utility) has text strings which

refer to WPA and WPA-2. There is also a DLL file

(C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WlanApp.dll) that contains various WPA and WPA2

functions.

I don't know which files, if any, are the "supplicants". Perhaps your

dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip archive needs to be installed as well.

I tried visiting Funk Software's Odyssey site ...

http://www.funk.com/radius/wlan/ody_c_wpa_for_ms.asp

.... but it appeared to be down. The Australian site is up, but demo

downloads are only available to Australian IP addresses.

BTW, when I try to run D-Link's AirPlus Utility, the app just closes

and exits, perhaps because there is no wireless card.

One other thing the OP may like to follow up is the latest firmware

for D-Link's G604T router:

ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Broadband/dslg604t/Firmware/dslg604T_firmware_200.zip

Maybe it includes WPA-2 support.

- Franc Zabkar

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June 28, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

news:bglb641o9qdsc0pbas1chjmlncrn2940f4@4ax.com...

| On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:05:54 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

| put finger to keyboard and composed:

|

| > The 802.11i standard [WPA2} can and is implemented via hardware.

| >WPA/WPA-PSK came with updates to XPSP1 {Update 815485} and is/was part of

| >802.11b [a supplement]. Early vendors included support in their own

software

| >[supplicant support] and hardware for 9X [generally only SE], now, its

| >difficult to find.

| > Older 802.11b products may or may not be upgradeable, depending on the

| >vendor. If you own 802.11b equipment, check with the vendor to see if

| >upgrades will be offered for your particular product(s). Newer 802.11g or

| >multi-mode 802.11a/g equipment is what is now generally found, though you

| >may be using the n version..

| >

| > Should the manufacturer not supply 98SE supplicant, some users have

| >resorted to experimentation, and found that there were others that MIGHT

| >work, such as:

| >Funk Software Odyssey client or Aegis.

| >

| > Some have also found that using certain drivers/supplicants from other

| >vendors would work with their devices, such as:

| >ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520/Apps/dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip

|

| I found the following two articles useful, even though they are aimed

| at users of Win XP.

|

| Implement WPA2-Personal wireless security on a Windows XP SP2-based

| computer:

|

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/expert/bowman_wirelesssecurity.mspx

|

| WPA Wireless Security for Home Networks:

|

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_03july28.mspx

|

| The author refers to the same DWLG520 device that you have linked to

| above. She claims that its drivers may provide WAP-2 support for the

| OP's "D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G630 Wireless Cardbus Adapter", although

| the INF file calls out Rev D of that particular card. The OP's card,

| if it is a different Rev, may not use the same chipset.

|

| She claims she was able to obtain WPA-2 support (under XP) for her

| DWL-G650 cards from the following archive:

|

ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520_revB/Drivers/dwlg520_revB3_drivers_318.zip

|

| I have successfully installed the above software on my Win98SE box

| although I don't have any wireless cards. I notice that the

| AirPlusCFG.exe file (D-Link AirPlus Utility) has text strings which

| refer to WPA and WPA-2. There is also a DLL file

| (C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WlanApp.dll) that contains various WPA and WPA2

| functions.

Look for this file:

A3AB9x.sys

|

| I don't know which files, if any, are the "supplicants". Perhaps your

| dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip archive needs to be installed as well.

|

| I tried visiting Funk Software's Odyssey site ...

|

| http://www.funk.com/radius/wlan/ody_c_wpa_for_ms.asp

|

| ... but it appeared to be down. The Australian site is up, but demo

| downloads are only available to Australian IP addresses.

|

| BTW, when I try to run D-Link's AirPlus Utility, the app just closes

| and exits, perhaps because there is no wireless card.

|

| One other thing the OP may like to follow up is the latest firmware

| for D-Link's G604T router:

|

| ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Broadband/dslg604t/Firmware/dslg604T_firmware_200.zip

|

| Maybe it includes WPA-2 support.

|

| - Franc Zabkar

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The file I had directed to [264 Kb] appeared to be just the Aegis support

files [2 exes with a DLL for each]. The file you directed to is the full

installation file [13.26 megs] for a specific adapter or more likely, a

specific chip or {range of} chips.

D-Link did {or does} put out a quite a few 9X supporting devices.

The original issue with WEP was likely due to improper network setup

(firewall, IP addressing, security settings, etc.) ['won't communicate

(e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.']. I didn't key on that issue,

thinking someone else would, and it appeared the poster was more interested

in WPA..

Those {experimental - not for the adapter}supplicants work{ed} in conjuction

with the device's original installation files, or apparently so from what I

can find.

Here's an important section from the aegis12.exe:

; mdc8021x.inf -- AEGIS Client 1.5.1.65 for Windows 98/98SE/ME

[version]

Signature = "$CHICAGO$"

Class = NetTrans

Provider = %MDC%

[Manufacturer]

%MDC8021X.DeviceDesc%=MDC8021X.ndi,MDC8021X

;------------------------; Installation Section

[MDC8021X.ndi]

AddReg=MDC8021X.ndi.reg

CopyFiles=MDC8021X.CopyFiles

DeviceID=MDC8021X

MaxInstance=1

[MDC8021X.ndi.reg]

HKR,Ndi,DeviceID,,MDC8021X

HKR,Ndi,MaxInstance,,1

; NDIS info

HKR,NDIS,LogDriverName,,"MDC8021X"

HKR,NDIS,MajorNdisVersion,1,03

HKR,NDIS,MinorNdisVersion,1,0A

The aegis15.exe contains this:

; mdc8021x.inf -- WPA Security Client for Windows 2000 and XP, Version

1.5.1.65

[version]

Signature = "$Windows NT$"

Class = NetTrans

ClassGUID = {4d36e975-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}

Provider = %MDC%

DriverVer = 03/12/2003,1.5.1.65

[Manufacturer]

%MDC8021X_Desc% = Install,MDC8021X

; Installation Section

[install]

AddReg = AddReg_Ndi

AddReg = AddReg_EventLog

Characteristics = 0 ; Has no characterstic

; Ndi installation

[AddReg_Ndi]

HKR,Ndi,Service,,"MDC8021X"

HKR,Ndi,HelpText,,%MDC8021X_HelpText%

HKR,Ndi\Interfaces,UpperRange,,noupper

HKR,Ndi\Interfaces,LowerRange,,"ndis4,ndis5"

The aegisE2.dll contains:

....

AEGIS Client is licensed for use with ORiNOCO network adapters only.

....

and entries for WEP, WPA, PEAP, MSCHAPv2, LEAP, etc., and the required

requests and responses..

So maybe it is really as it appears, just the supplicant which was found to

work with other adapters, particularly as it doesn't contain the install

INF, Help files, and other files mentioned within the files. Obviously, it

isn't/wasn't being used upon the device intended.

And yeah, Barb puts out some good information sometimes.

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June 29, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:07:43 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>news:bglb641o9qdsc0pbas1chjmlncrn2940f4@4ax.com...

>ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520_revB/Drivers/dwlg520_revB3_drivers_318.zip

>|

>| I have successfully installed the above software on my Win98SE box

>| although I don't have any wireless cards. I notice that the

>| AirPlusCFG.exe file (D-Link AirPlus Utility) has text strings which

>| refer to WPA and WPA-2. There is also a DLL file

>| (C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WlanApp.dll) that contains various WPA and WPA2

>| functions.

>

>Look for this file:

>A3AB9x.sys

I don't have it.

- Franc Zabkar

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June 29, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

In news:8ted64pqk4el0mh831pb8pseedor9b35va@4ax.com at ,

Franc Zabkar contemplated and posted:

| On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:07:43 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

| put finger to keyboard and composed:

|

|>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

|>news:bglb641o9qdsc0pbas1chjmlncrn2940f4@4ax.com...

|

|>ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520_revB/Drivers/dwlg520_revB3_drivers_31

8.zip

|>|

|>| I have successfully installed the above software on my Win98SE box

|>| although I don't have any wireless cards. I notice that the

|>| AirPlusCFG.exe file (D-Link AirPlus Utility) has text strings which

|>| refer to WPA and WPA-2. There is also a DLL file

|>| (C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WlanApp.dll) that contains various WPA and WPA2

|>| functions.

|>

|>Look for this file:

|>A3AB9x.sys

|

| I don't have it.

|

| - Franc Zabkar

That file is referenced within the installer files as being installed in 9X

installations, thought it might be instructive.

;

;Module Name:

;

; netA3AB.inf

;

;Abstract:

; For US

; INF file for installing D-Link 802.11a/b/g Wireless Adapter

;

; Installs A3AB.sys (NDIS 5/5.1 driver) on NT platforms (2000, XP and

greater)

; Installs A3AB9x.sys (NDIS 5 driver) on 9x platforms

....

; A3AB Win9x specific

;

[A3AB.win.reg]

HKR, , DevLoader, 0, "*ndis"

HKR, , DeviceVxDs, 0, "A3AB9x.sys"

....

HKR, NDIS, LogDriverName, 0, "A3AB9X"

HKR, NDIS, MajorNdisVersion, 1, 03

HKR, NDIS, MinorNdisVersion, 1, 0A

HKR, , InitFile, 0, %InitFile%

HKR, , aifs, 0, 2

HKR, , cwmin, 0, 15

HKR, Ndi\Install, ndis3, 0, "A3AB.install"

....

; DestinationDirs

;

[A3AB.win.CopyFiles]

A3AB9x.sys,,,2

....

[sourceDisksFiles]

A3AB9x.sys = 1,, ; on distribution disk 1

....

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July 1, 2008

Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:34:01 -0700, A Team <A

Team@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?

>If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/206529/7-expert-secure-thy-self.html

"After secretly examining 300 wireless access points used by companies

exhibiting in Germany [at the 2006 CeBIT trade fair in Hannover],

Kaspersky revealed 56% of them had no encryption at all, while the

remaining 44% used the easily broken WEP protocol."

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/196350/10-rattle-your-router.html

"You should also change the default wireless security options -

assuming any are being used at all - and make sure it still isn't

running WEP. 'WEP is well and truly cracked,' says Fogerty. 'It's

cracked within one or two minutes. Most routers now support WPA/WPA2 -

ditch WEP and just use WPA.'"

- Franc Zabkar

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