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"Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

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> IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>

> I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather sites on

> this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with the IE7

> with Vista x86.

 

 

What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

 

> This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

> returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can think of

> and still no solution.

>

> Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be appreciated.

> (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with that

> suggestion.)

>

> Jan :)

>

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Robert,

My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

 

Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

Post back your results.

IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

 

Carlos

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

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> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

> >

> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather sites on

> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with the IE7

> > with Vista x86.

>

>

> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>

>

> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can think of

> > and still no solution.

> >

> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be appreciated.

> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with that

> > suggestion.)

> >

> > Jan :)

> >

>

>

>

Guest Jan :\)

Guest Jan :\)

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"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message

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> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>

>> I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather sites on

>> this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with the IE7

>> with Vista x86.

>

>

> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

 

The map on the page page won't even render when I switch to the IE x64

http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36hr_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar

 

Jan :)

>

>

>> This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>> returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can think

>> of

>> and still no solution.

>>

>> Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be appreciated.

>> (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with that

>> suggestion.)

>>

>> Jan :)

>>

>

>

Guest Jan :\)

Guest Jan :\)

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"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Robert,

> My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>

> Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

> Post back your results.

> IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

 

Nope, that has been installed.

 

Jan :)

>

> Carlos

> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>

>> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>> >

>> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather sites

>> > on

>> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with the

>> > IE7

>> > with Vista x86.

>>

>>

>> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>

>>

>> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can

>> > think of

>> > and still no solution.

>> >

>> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be appreciated.

>> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with that

>> > suggestion.)

>> >

>> > Jan :)

>> >

>>

>>

>>

Guest Tony Sperling

Guest Tony Sperling

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Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not

being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

(coldboot!) and re-install?

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

"Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

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>

> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

> > Robert,

> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

> >

> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

> >

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

> > Post back your results.

> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>

> Nope, that has been installed.

>

> Jan :)

>

> >

> > Carlos

> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> >

> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

> >> >

> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather sites

> >> > on

> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with the

> >> > IE7

> >> > with Vista x86.

> >>

> >>

> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

> >>

> >>

> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can

> >> > think of

> >> > and still no solution.

> >> >

> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

appreciated.

> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

that

> >> > suggestion.)

> >> >

> >> > Jan :)

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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Can he can uninstall IE7? It is the base IE in Vista.

 

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

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> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not

> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

> (coldboot!) and re-install?

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>> > Robert,

>> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>> >

>> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>> >

> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>> > Post back your results.

>> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>

>> Nope, that has been installed.

>>

>> Jan :)

>>

>> >

>> > Carlos

>> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>> >

>> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>> >> >

>> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>> >> > sites

>> >> > on

>> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

>> >> > the

>> >> > IE7

>> >> > with Vista x86.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can

>> >> > think of

>> >> > and still no solution.

>> >> >

>> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

> appreciated.

>> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

> that

>> >> > suggestion.)

>> >> >

>> >> > Jan :)

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>

>

Guest Tony Sperling

Guest Tony Sperling

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Well, maybe not in reality, but in XP you can remove IE as one of the

'Windows Components' - which will remove associations and (I think?) the

*.EXE while leaving the *.DLL's which other system components rely on.

 

Anyhow, re-activating it, should give you some certainty that everything is

working right across the system.

 

You are right though, I have no idea if this functionality still exist in

Vista? It has been there for ages - and I think it is part of the Court

settlement over the IE integration in the system, so I believe the option

'should' be there. Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it?

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> Can he can uninstall IE7? It is the base IE in Vista.

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not

> > being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

> > (coldboot!) and re-install?

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> > "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> > news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>

> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

> >> > Robert,

> >> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

> >> >

> >> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

> >> >

> >

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

> >> > Post back your results.

> >> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

> >>

> >> Nope, that has been installed.

> >>

> >> Jan :)

> >>

> >> >

> >> > Carlos

> >> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

> >> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> >> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

> >> >> > sites

> >> >> > on

> >> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > IE7

> >> >> > with Vista x86.

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

> >> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I

can

> >> >> > think of

> >> >> > and still no solution.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

> > appreciated.

> >> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

> > that

> >> >> > suggestion.)

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Jan :)

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

Guest Jan :\)

Guest Jan :\)

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'She' wonders about that too. :-)

 

Jan :)

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> Can he can uninstall IE7? It is the base IE in Vista.

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not

>> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>> (coldboot!) and re-install?

>>

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>>

>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>>> > Robert,

>>> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>>> >

>>> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>>> >

>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>>> > Post back your results.

>>> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>>

>>> Nope, that has been installed.

>>>

>>> Jan :)

>>>

>>> >

>>> > Carlos

>>> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>>> >

>>> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>> >> >

>>> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>>> >> > sites

>>> >> > on

>>> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

>>> >> > the

>>> >> > IE7

>>> >> > with Vista x86.

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can

>>> >> > think of

>>> >> > and still no solution.

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>> appreciated.

>>> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

>> that

>>> >> > suggestion.)

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Jan :)

>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Jan :\)

Guest Jan :\)

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"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

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> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not

> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

> (coldboot!) and re-install?

 

I can try it. I am am not keen to do a Vista repair if there is any way I

can avoid it.

 

Jan :)

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>> > Robert,

>> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>> >

>> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>> >

> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>> > Post back your results.

>> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>

>> Nope, that has been installed.

>>

>> Jan :)

>>

>> >

>> > Carlos

>> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>> >

>> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>> >> >

>> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>> >> > sites

>> >> > on

>> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

>> >> > the

>> >> > IE7

>> >> > with Vista x86.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can

>> >> > think of

>> >> > and still no solution.

>> >> >

>> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

> appreciated.

>> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

> that

>> >> > suggestion.)

>> >> >

>> >> > Jan :)

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>

>

Guest Jan :\)

Guest Jan :\)

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Nope...no luck. IE is not a component listed there.

 

Thanks for the suggestions. :-)

 

Jan :)

 

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not

> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

> (coldboot!) and re-install?

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>> > Robert,

>> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>> >

>> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>> >

> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>> > Post back your results.

>> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>

>> Nope, that has been installed.

>>

>> Jan :)

>>

>> >

>> > Carlos

>> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>> >

>> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>> >> >

>> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>> >> > sites

>> >> > on

>> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

>> >> > the

>> >> > IE7

>> >> > with Vista x86.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can

>> >> > think of

>> >> > and still no solution.

>> >> >

>> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

> appreciated.

>> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

> that

>> >> > suggestion.)

>> >> >

>> >> > Jan :)

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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Try it in a virtual machine first.

 

"Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

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>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not

>> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>> (coldboot!) and re-install?

>

> I can try it. I am am not keen to do a Vista repair if there is any way I

> can avoid it.

>

> Jan :)

>

>>

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>>

>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>>> > Robert,

>>> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>>> >

>>> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>>> >

>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>>> > Post back your results.

>>> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>>

>>> Nope, that has been installed.

>>>

>>> Jan :)

>>>

>>> >

>>> > Carlos

>>> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>>> >

>>> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>> >> >

>>> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>>> >> > sites

>>> >> > on

>>> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

>>> >> > the

>>> >> > IE7

>>> >> > with Vista x86.

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can

>>> >> > think of

>>> >> > and still no solution.

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>> appreciated.

>>> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

>> that

>>> >> > suggestion.)

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Jan :)

>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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I think all you could remove from XP was IE6 SP1 but IE6 is core also. And

then you have to remove the XP service packs before rolling back to the

original IE.

 

"Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

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> Nope...no luck. IE is not a component listed there.

>

> Thanks for the suggestions. :-)

>

> Jan :)

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not

>> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>> (coldboot!) and re-install?

>>

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>>

>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>>> > Robert,

>>> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>>> >

>>> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>>> >

>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>>> > Post back your results.

>>> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>>

>>> Nope, that has been installed.

>>>

>>> Jan :)

>>>

>>> >

>>> > Carlos

>>> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>>> >

>>> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>> >> >

>>> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>>> >> > sites

>>> >> > on

>>> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

>>> >> > the

>>> >> > IE7

>>> >> > with Vista x86.

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can

>>> >> > think of

>>> >> > and still no solution.

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>> appreciated.

>>> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

>> that

>>> >> > suggestion.)

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Jan :)

>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest R. C. White

Guest R. C. White

Posted
Posted

Re: No longer have animation

 

Re: No longer have animation

 

Hi, Tony.

> Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it?

 

Right. As Microsoft told the court, IE is so tightly integrated into WinXP

that it can't be removed. I had no idea that it was removable in non-US

editions.

 

WinXP includes IE6, which can be upgraded since IE7 arrived. Vista started

with IE7, which is still included on every DVD. Many of us are now involved

in the public beta of IE8, which can run on both WinXP and Vista, replacing

IE6 or IE7, as appropriate. For more, see

microsoft.public.internetexplorer.beta.

 

But IE6 can't be removed (by us mere mortals - in the US, at least) from

WinXP or IE7 from Vista.

 

And be nice to Jan. She's a Cherokee.

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

 

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:#Om#gYd1IHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Well, maybe not in reality, but in XP you can remove IE as one of the

> 'Windows Components' - which will remove associations and (I think?) the

> *.EXE while leaving the *.DLL's which other system components rely on.

>

> Anyhow, re-activating it, should give you some certainty that everything

> is

> working right across the system.

>

> You are right though, I have no idea if this functionality still exist in

> Vista? It has been there for ages - and I think it is part of the Court

> settlement over the IE integration in the system, so I believe the option

> 'should' be there. Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it?

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:58D2A951-EA40-4BB5-9908-552F7D6128C6@microsoft.com...

>> Can he can uninstall IE7? It is the base IE in Vista.

>>

>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me

>> > not

>> > being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>> > (coldboot!) and re-install?

>> >

>> >

>> > Tony. . .

>> >

>> >

>> > "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> > news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >>

>> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Robert,

>> >> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>> >> >

>> >> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>> >> >

>> >

> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>> >> > Post back your results.

>> >> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>> >>

>> >> Nope, that has been installed.

>> >>

>> >> Jan :)

>> >>

>> >> >

>> >> > Carlos

>> >> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>> >> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>> >> >> > sites

>> >> >> > on

>> >> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> > IE7

>> >> >> > with Vista x86.

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>> >> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I

> can

>> >> >> > think of

>> >> >> > and still no solution.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>> > appreciated.

>> >> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

>> > that

>> >> >> > suggestion.)

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Jan :)

Guest Robert Aldwinckle

Guest Robert Aldwinckle

Posted
Posted

Re: No longer have animation

 

Re: No longer have animation

 

"Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

news:%23KctM8Y1IHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>

> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message news:%23bgEMqX1IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>>

>>> I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather sites on

>>> this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with the IE7

>>> with Vista x86.

>>

>>

>> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>

> The map on the page page won't even render when I switch to the IE x64

> http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36hr_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar

>

> Jan :)

 

 

Ok. Well, now that we know some other Vista x64 users are reading this

perhaps you will find out at least how common this symptom is? <eg>

 

Otherwise one way to try to get more clues about what is different

in the two cases is to use ProcMon. E.g. open the above link as the first

thing for a new iexplore.exe process to do. That way you will see the

modules being loaded. If something is not being loaded in the bad case

it might even be sufficient just to use the Process filter (e.g. ignore RegMon

and FileMon aspects as hopefully extraneous noise.) Then, if that's not

enough add in the FileMon type tracing. Etc. Note that by default ProcMon

captures all the detail anyway, so you can always save the trace and reanalyse

it later with different filters. Note too that when you have two supposedly

nearly identical saved traces you can analyse them side-by-side.

Unfortunately though you have to use your eyeballs instead of a diff program

to do that because of all the other details such as timestamps, etc. which

would make a programmed difference report impractical.

 

Hmm... it would help if ProcMon didn't BSOD as often as it does but... ; )

 

BTW it would probably help if you elaborated on your symptom.

E.g. do you see the map? Does right-clicking on the map give the

same menu? Etc.

 

Also, have you checked on the Adobe forums for previous reports

of the same symptom?

 

 

Good luck

 

Robert

---

 

>

>>

>>

>>> This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>> returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can think of

>>> and still no solution.

>>>

>>> Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be appreciated.

>>> (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with that

>>> suggestion.)

>>>

>>> Jan :)

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Jan :\)

Guest Jan :\)

Posted
Posted

Re: No longer have animation

 

Re: No longer have animation

 

 

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

news:2EB225C9-1638-4EA9-8877-0A20422AA76C@microsoft.com...

> Hi, Tony.

>

>> Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it?

>

> Right. As Microsoft told the court, IE is so tightly integrated into

> WinXP that it can't be removed. I had no idea that it was removable in

> non-US editions.

>

> WinXP includes IE6, which can be upgraded since IE7 arrived. Vista

> started with IE7, which is still included on every DVD. Many of us are

> now involved in the public beta of IE8, which can run on both WinXP and

> Vista, replacing IE6 or IE7, as appropriate. For more, see

> microsoft.public.internetexplorer.beta.

>

> But IE6 can't be removed (by us mere mortals - in the US, at least) from

> WinXP or IE7 from Vista.

 

I was curious about that too, as since XP IE has been a core part of the

software and not uninstallable. As far as know that is the case with Vista

as well. So, if it is uninstallable from XP or Vista in other than US

versions, I am unaware of that capability. I was testing the IE8 beta on

that machine, but, uninstalled it last Thursday to do some testing the needs

a clean IE7, not just the Emulation. That is when I noticed that none of

the map animations are now working.

>

> And be nice to Jan. She's a Cherokee.

 

Yeppers....they even let me off the Resevation now and then too. At least to

attend the MVP Summits. :o))

 

Jan :)

 

>

> RC

> --

> R. C. White, CPA

> San Marcos, TX

> rc@grandecom.net

> Microsoft Windows MVP

> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:#Om#gYd1IHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Well, maybe not in reality, but in XP you can remove IE as one of the

>> 'Windows Components' - which will remove associations and (I think?) the

>> *.EXE while leaving the *.DLL's which other system components rely on.

>>

>> Anyhow, re-activating it, should give you some certainty that everything

>> is

>> working right across the system.

>>

>> You are right though, I have no idea if this functionality still exist in

>> Vista? It has been there for ages - and I think it is part of the Court

>> settlement over the IE integration in the system, so I believe the option

>> 'should' be there. Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it?

>>

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>>

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:58D2A951-EA40-4BB5-9908-552F7D6128C6@microsoft.com...

>>> Can he can uninstall IE7? It is the base IE in Vista.

>>>

>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> > Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me

>>> > not

>>> > being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>>> > (coldboot!) and re-install?

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > Tony. . .

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>> > news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> >>

>>> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> >> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>>> >> > Robert,

>>> >> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>>> >> >

>>> >

>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>>> >> > Post back your results.

>>> >> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>> >>

>>> >> Nope, that has been installed.

>>> >>

>>> >> Jan :)

>>> >>

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Carlos

>>> >> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>>> >> >

>>> >> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>> >> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>> >> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> >> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>> >> >> >

>>> >> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>>> >> >> > sites

>>> >> >> > on

>>> >> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines

>>> >> >> > with

>>> >> >> > the

>>> >> >> > IE7

>>> >> >> > with Vista x86.

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>> >> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I

>> can

>>> >> >> > think of

>>> >> >> > and still no solution.

>>> >> >> >

>>> >> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>>> > appreciated.

>>> >> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother

>>> >> >> > with

>>> > that

>>> >> >> > suggestion.)

>>> >> >> >

>>> >> >> > Jan :)

>

Guest Jan :\)

Guest Jan :\)

Posted
Posted

Re: No longer have animation

 

Re: No longer have animation

 

I didn't think it would be there, but, figured I cover all the bases.

 

Jan :)

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:ECFA6093-CFF3-4619-B082-9994606E8ECE@microsoft.com...

>I think all you could remove from XP was IE6 SP1 but IE6 is core also. And

>then you have to remove the XP service packs before rolling back to the

>original IE.

>

> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> news:eQsrJZg1IHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Nope...no luck. IE is not a component listed there.

>>

>> Thanks for the suggestions. :-)

>>

>> Jan :)

>>

>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not

>>> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>>> (coldboot!) and re-install?

>>>

>>>

>>> Tony. . .

>>>

>>>

>>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>> news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>>>> > Robert,

>>>> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>>>> >

>>>> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>>>> >

>>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>>>> > Post back your results.

>>>> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>>>

>>>> Nope, that has been installed.

>>>>

>>>> Jan :)

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > Carlos

>>>> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>>> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>>>> >> > sites

>>>> >> > on

>>>> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

>>>> >> > the

>>>> >> > IE7

>>>> >> > with Vista x86.

>>>> >>

>>>> >>

>>>> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>>> >>

>>>> >>

>>>> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>>> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I

>>>> >> > can

>>>> >> > think of

>>>> >> > and still no solution.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>>> appreciated.

>>>> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

>>> that

>>>> >> > suggestion.)

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Jan :)

>>>> >> >

>>>> >>

>>>> >>

>>>> >>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest Jan :\)

Guest Jan :\)

Posted
Posted

Re: No longer have animation

 

Re: No longer have animation

 

Sorry...I don't follow the idea....try what in a virtual machine?

 

Jan :)

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:EF17A5B7-3E82-4465-A7AB-D9486FDB1288@microsoft.com...

> Try it in a virtual machine first.

>

> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> news:%23P9AbVg1IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not

>>> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>>> (coldboot!) and re-install?

>>

>> I can try it. I am am not keen to do a Vista repair if there is any way I

>> can avoid it.

>>

>> Jan :)

>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Tony. . .

>>>

>>>

>>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>> news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>>>> > Robert,

>>>> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>>>> >

>>>> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>>>> >

>>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>>>> > Post back your results.

>>>> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>>>

>>>> Nope, that has been installed.

>>>>

>>>> Jan :)

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > Carlos

>>>> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>>> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>>>> >> > sites

>>>> >> > on

>>>> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

>>>> >> > the

>>>> >> > IE7

>>>> >> > with Vista x86.

>>>> >>

>>>> >>

>>>> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>>> >>

>>>> >>

>>>> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>>> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I

>>>> >> > can

>>>> >> > think of

>>>> >> > and still no solution.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>>> appreciated.

>>>> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

>>> that

>>>> >> > suggestion.)

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Jan :)

>>>> >> >

>>>> >>

>>>> >>

>>>> >>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Posted
Posted

Re: No longer have animation

 

Re: No longer have animation

 

The N editions ("no IE") don't have it but it can be installed. That

installation can later be uninstalled. However, only a few thousand N

editions apparently sold. The European Courts' great triumph fizzled. I

beleive that the K editions (Korea) worked about the same. I think other

than that whatever IE ships with a version of Windows is core.

 

 

"Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

news:epu25Fh1IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>

> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

> news:2EB225C9-1638-4EA9-8877-0A20422AA76C@microsoft.com...

>> Hi, Tony.

>>

>>> Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it?

>>

>> Right. As Microsoft told the court, IE is so tightly integrated into

>> WinXP that it can't be removed. I had no idea that it was removable in

>> non-US editions.

>>

>> WinXP includes IE6, which can be upgraded since IE7 arrived. Vista

>> started with IE7, which is still included on every DVD. Many of us are

>> now involved in the public beta of IE8, which can run on both WinXP and

>> Vista, replacing IE6 or IE7, as appropriate. For more, see

>> microsoft.public.internetexplorer.beta.

>>

>> But IE6 can't be removed (by us mere mortals - in the US, at least) from

>> WinXP or IE7 from Vista.

>

> I was curious about that too, as since XP IE has been a core part of the

> software and not uninstallable. As far as know that is the case with

> Vista as well. So, if it is uninstallable from XP or Vista in other than

> US versions, I am unaware of that capability. I was testing the IE8 beta

> on that machine, but, uninstalled it last Thursday to do some testing the

> needs a clean IE7, not just the Emulation. That is when I noticed that

> none of the map animations are now working.

>>

>> And be nice to Jan. She's a Cherokee.

>

> Yeppers....they even let me off the Resevation now and then too. At least

> to attend the MVP Summits. :o))

>

> Jan :)

>

>

>>

>> RC

>> --

>> R. C. White, CPA

>> San Marcos, TX

>> rc@grandecom.net

>> Microsoft Windows MVP

>> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

>>

>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> news:#Om#gYd1IHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Well, maybe not in reality, but in XP you can remove IE as one of the

>>> 'Windows Components' - which will remove associations and (I think?) the

>>> *.EXE while leaving the *.DLL's which other system components rely on.

>>>

>>> Anyhow, re-activating it, should give you some certainty that everything

>>> is

>>> working right across the system.

>>>

>>> You are right though, I have no idea if this functionality still exist

>>> in

>>> Vista? It has been there for ages - and I think it is part of the Court

>>> settlement over the IE integration in the system, so I believe the

>>> option

>>> 'should' be there. Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it?

>>>

>>>

>>> Tony. . .

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:58D2A951-EA40-4BB5-9908-552F7D6128C6@microsoft.com...

>>>> Can he can uninstall IE7? It is the base IE in Vista.

>>>>

>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> > Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me

>>>> > not

>>>> > being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>>>> > (coldboot!) and re-install?

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > Tony. . .

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>> > news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> >>

>>>> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> >> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>>>> >> > Robert,

>>>> >> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>>>> >> >

>>>> >

>>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>>>> >> > Post back your results.

>>>> >> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Nope, that has been installed.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Jan :)

>>>> >>

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Carlos

>>>> >> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>>> >> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>> >> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> >> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>>>> >> >> > sites

>>>> >> >> > on

>>>> >> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines

>>>> >> >> > with

>>>> >> >> > the

>>>> >> >> > IE7

>>>> >> >> > with Vista x86.

>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>>> >> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I

>>> can

>>>> >> >> > think of

>>>> >> >> > and still no solution.

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>>>> > appreciated.

>>>> >> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother

>>>> >> >> > with

>>>> > that

>>>> >> >> > suggestion.)

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Jan :)

>>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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Re: No longer have animation

 

What you said above in response to Tony, "I can try it. I am am not keen to

do a Vista repair if there is any way I

can avoid it." So use VPC and install a copy of Vista in a virtual machine

to experiment with. When you are done just delete the virtual machine.

That's the way to try out stuff without it affecting your computer.

 

"Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

news:OJcVmHh1IHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Sorry...I don't follow the idea....try what in a virtual machine?

>

> Jan :)

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:EF17A5B7-3E82-4465-A7AB-D9486FDB1288@microsoft.com...

>> Try it in a virtual machine first.

>>

>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:%23P9AbVg1IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me

>>>> not

>>>> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>>>> (coldboot!) and re-install?

>>>

>>> I can try it. I am am not keen to do a Vista repair if there is any way

>>> I can avoid it.

>>>

>>> Jan :)

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>> news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>>>>> > Robert,

>>>>> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>>>>> >

>>>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>>>>> > Post back your results.

>>>>> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>>>>

>>>>> Nope, that has been installed.

>>>>>

>>>>> Jan :)

>>>>>

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Carlos

>>>>> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>>>>> >

>>>>> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>>>> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>>> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>>>>> >> > sites

>>>>> >> > on

>>>>> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

>>>>> >> > the

>>>>> >> > IE7

>>>>> >> > with Vista x86.

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>>>> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I

>>>>> >> > can

>>>>> >> > think of

>>>>> >> > and still no solution.

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>>>> appreciated.

>>>>> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

>>>> that

>>>>> >> > suggestion.)

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >> > Jan :)

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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Re: No longer have animation

 

Yeah, the core software never shows up in Add/Remove, including whatever

version of IE or WMP shipped with the copy of the OS you are using.

 

"Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

news:ev41rGh1IHA.3920@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>I didn't think it would be there, but, figured I cover all the bases.

>

> Jan :)

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:ECFA6093-CFF3-4619-B082-9994606E8ECE@microsoft.com...

>>I think all you could remove from XP was IE6 SP1 but IE6 is core also.

>>And then you have to remove the XP service packs before rolling back to

>>the original IE.

>>

>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:eQsrJZg1IHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Nope...no luck. IE is not a component listed there.

>>>

>>> Thanks for the suggestions. :-)

>>>

>>> Jan :)

>>>

>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me

>>>> not

>>>> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>>>> (coldboot!) and re-install?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>> news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>>>>> > Robert,

>>>>> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>>>>> >

>>>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>>>>> > Post back your results.

>>>>> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>>>>

>>>>> Nope, that has been installed.

>>>>>

>>>>> Jan :)

>>>>>

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Carlos

>>>>> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>>>>> >

>>>>> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>>>> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>>> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>>>>> >> > sites

>>>>> >> > on

>>>>> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with

>>>>> >> > the

>>>>> >> > IE7

>>>>> >> > with Vista x86.

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>>>> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I

>>>>> >> > can

>>>>> >> > think of

>>>>> >> > and still no solution.

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>>>> appreciated.

>>>>> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with

>>>> that

>>>>> >> > suggestion.)

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >> > Jan :)

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest Jan :\)

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Re: No longer have animation

 

 

"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message

news:ebuY9Dh1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> news:%23KctM8Y1IHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23bgEMqX1IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>>>

>>>> I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather sites

>>>> on

>>>> this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with the

>>>> IE7

>>>> with Vista x86.

>>>

>>>

>>> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>

>> The map on the page page won't even render when I switch to the IE x64

>> http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36hr_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar

>>

>> Jan :)

>

>

> Ok. Well, now that we know some other Vista x64 users are reading this

> perhaps you will find out at least how common this symptom is? <eg>

>

> Otherwise one way to try to get more clues about what is different

> in the two cases is to use ProcMon. E.g. open the above link as the

> first

> thing for a new iexplore.exe process to do. That way you will see the

> modules being loaded. If something is not being loaded in the bad case

> it might even be sufficient just to use the Process filter (e.g. ignore

> RegMon

> and FileMon aspects as hopefully extraneous noise.) Then, if that's not

> enough add in the FileMon type tracing. Etc. Note that by default

> ProcMon

> captures all the detail anyway, so you can always save the trace and

> reanalyse

> it later with different filters. Note too that when you have two

> supposedly

> nearly identical saved traces you can analyse them side-by-side.

> Unfortunately though you have to use your eyeballs instead of a diff

> program

> to do that because of all the other details such as timestamps, etc. which

> would make a programmed difference report impractical.

 

I will endeavor the above as gray matter comprehends. :-) While I have all

these tools, analysis of such is not one of my more deft attributes. <grin>

Expecially, when it doing visual comparisions, as vision in one eye is very

limited so extended study is not always an easy thing. However, the

programs do have merit and can offer a good information.

>

> Hmm... it would help if ProcMon didn't BSOD as often as it does but...

> ; )

 

Indeed! :-)

>

> BTW it would probably help if you elaborated on your symptom.

> E.g. do you see the map? Does right-clicking on the map give the

> same menu? Etc.

 

The map here does not appear at all:

http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36hr_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar

 

The map here renders but when I click the Show Map In Motion it tries to

change to the animation but just hangs indefinitely.

http://www.weather.com/weather/map/USVA0808?clip=704&region=null&collection=localwxforecast&presname=Warrenton,%20VA%20Forecast&name=usinterstateforecastday3_large_animated&day=1

>

> Also, have you checked on the Adobe forums for previous reports

> of the same symptom?

 

I've check out some that speak of animation problems, but, nothing is

related to having previously installed the IE8, as least not from what I

could tell, nor were the rendering and animation problems the same.

 

When I try to install the Adobe Flash, it says that I have it installed,

yet, I have unintsalled it earlier to reinstall and see if that might help.

Also, the Adobe Active X download is blocked by IE and I have not yet been

able to find how to unblock it. Putting it in my Trusted Zone does not

work, nor does any of the Security allowances I have made. So, I can't

reinstall it. Although, it says it is installed. So, something may be amiss

too. This is all very strange, as it just started since I uninstalled the

IE8. The Flash and all had been working fine until then.

 

Jan :)

>

>

> Good luck

>

> Robert

> ---

>

>

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>>> returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can

>>>> think of

>>>> and still no solution.

>>>>

>>>> Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be appreciated.

>>>> (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with that

>>>> suggestion.)

>>>>

>>>> Jan :)

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

>

Guest Jan :\)

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"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> What you said above in response to Tony, "I can try it. I am am not keen

> to do a Vista repair if there is any way I

> can avoid it." So use VPC and install a copy of Vista in a virtual

> machine to experiment with. When you are done just delete the virtual

> machine. That's the way to try out stuff without it affecting your

> computer.

 

Ah...I meant by my reply to Tony was that I was willing to try suggestions.

Doing a repair of vista is the last thing I want to do, and only if it is

the last resort. However, I didn't really expect to find the IE listed in

the components list, nor listed in the Programs and Features of VIsta, as it

is not a separate install, ats least not in my version, but, I figured it

wouldn't hurt to check it out anyway. But, I see what you mean now. I

don't anticipate the need for using VPC. If the IE is borked the VPC won't

help.

 

Jan :)

>

> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> news:OJcVmHh1IHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Sorry...I don't follow the idea....try what in a virtual machine?

>>

>> Jan :)

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:EF17A5B7-3E82-4465-A7AB-D9486FDB1288@microsoft.com...

>>> Try it in a virtual machine first.

>>>

>>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>> news:%23P9AbVg1IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me

>>>>> not

>>>>> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>>>>> (coldboot!) and re-install?

>>>>

>>>> I can try it. I am am not keen to do a Vista repair if there is any way

>>>> I can avoid it.

>>>>

>>>> Jan :)

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> > Robert,

>>>>>> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>>>>>> >

>>>>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>>>>>> > Post back your results.

>>>>>> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Nope, that has been installed.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Jan :)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Carlos

>>>>>> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>>>>> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>>>> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

>>>>>> >> > sites

>>>>>> >> > on

>>>>>> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines

>>>>>> >> > with the

>>>>>> >> > IE7

>>>>>> >> > with Vista x86.

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>>>>> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I

>>>>>> >> > can

>>>>>> >> > think of

>>>>>> >> > and still no solution.

>>>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>>>>> appreciated.

>>>>>> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother

>>>>>> >> > with

>>>>> that

>>>>>> >> > suggestion.)

>>>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >> > Jan :)

>>>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest Jan :\)

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Re: No longer have animation

 

Ahhh, thanks for the clarification, Colin. Bill Sharpe used to keep us up to

date on what the Korean version was doing, but, haven't talked with him of

late. His WHS keeps him pretty busy these days :-))

 

Jan :)

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:CC39D026-C597-45F9-A8A4-F21F8D553B97@microsoft.com...

> The N editions ("no IE") don't have it but it can be installed. That

> installation can later be uninstalled. However, only a few thousand N

> editions apparently sold. The European Courts' great triumph fizzled. I

> beleive that the K editions (Korea) worked about the same. I think other

> than that whatever IE ships with a version of Windows is core.

>

>

> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> news:epu25Fh1IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>> news:2EB225C9-1638-4EA9-8877-0A20422AA76C@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi, Tony.

>>>

>>>> Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it?

>>>

>>> Right. As Microsoft told the court, IE is so tightly integrated into

>>> WinXP that it can't be removed. I had no idea that it was removable in

>>> non-US editions.

>>>

>>> WinXP includes IE6, which can be upgraded since IE7 arrived. Vista

>>> started with IE7, which is still included on every DVD. Many of us are

>>> now involved in the public beta of IE8, which can run on both WinXP and

>>> Vista, replacing IE6 or IE7, as appropriate. For more, see

>>> microsoft.public.internetexplorer.beta.

>>>

>>> But IE6 can't be removed (by us mere mortals - in the US, at least) from

>>> WinXP or IE7 from Vista.

>>

>> I was curious about that too, as since XP IE has been a core part of the

>> software and not uninstallable. As far as know that is the case with

>> Vista as well. So, if it is uninstallable from XP or Vista in other than

>> US versions, I am unaware of that capability. I was testing the IE8 beta

>> on that machine, but, uninstalled it last Thursday to do some testing the

>> needs a clean IE7, not just the Emulation. That is when I noticed that

>> none of the map animations are now working.

>>>

>>> And be nice to Jan. She's a Cherokee.

>>

>> Yeppers....they even let me off the Resevation now and then too. At least

>> to attend the MVP Summits. :o))

>>

>> Jan :)

>>

>>

>>>

>>> RC

>>> --

>>> R. C. White, CPA

>>> San Marcos, TX

>>> rc@grandecom.net

>>> Microsoft Windows MVP

>>> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

>>>

>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>> news:#Om#gYd1IHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Well, maybe not in reality, but in XP you can remove IE as one of the

>>>> 'Windows Components' - which will remove associations and (I think?)

>>>> the

>>>> *.EXE while leaving the *.DLL's which other system components rely on.

>>>>

>>>> Anyhow, re-activating it, should give you some certainty that

>>>> everything is

>>>> working right across the system.

>>>>

>>>> You are right though, I have no idea if this functionality still exist

>>>> in

>>>> Vista? It has been there for ages - and I think it is part of the Court

>>>> settlement over the IE integration in the system, so I believe the

>>>> option

>>>> 'should' be there. Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:58D2A951-EA40-4BB5-9908-552F7D6128C6@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Can he can uninstall IE7? It is the base IE in Vista.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> > Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me

>>>>> > not

>>>>> > being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

>>>>> > (coldboot!) and re-install?

>>>>> >

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Tony. . .

>>>>> >

>>>>> >

>>>>> > "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>>> > news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> >> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

>>>>> >> > Robert,

>>>>> >> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >

>>>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

>>>>> >> > Post back your results.

>>>>> >> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> Nope, that has been installed.

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> Jan :)

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >> > Carlos

>>>>> >> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>>>> >> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>>> >> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> >> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>>>> >> >> >

>>>>> >> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the

>>>>> >> >> > Weather

>>>>> >> >> > sites

>>>>> >> >> > on

>>>>> >> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines

>>>>> >> >> > with

>>>>> >> >> > the

>>>>> >> >> > IE7

>>>>> >> >> > with Vista x86.

>>>>> >> >>

>>>>> >> >>

>>>>> >> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>>>> >> >>

>>>>> >> >>

>>>>> >> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>>>> >> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as

>>>>> >> >> > I

>>>> can

>>>>> >> >> > think of

>>>>> >> >> > and still no solution.

>>>>> >> >> >

>>>>> >> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

>>>>> > appreciated.

>>>>> >> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother

>>>>> >> >> > with

>>>>> > that

>>>>> >> >> > suggestion.)

>>>>> >> >> >

>>>>> >> >> > Jan :)

>>>

>>

>

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Re: No longer have animation

 

Hi, Jan.

 

I haven't followed the thread closely; maybe this has already been covered.

But, since you gave those two links in your last post, I tried them both in

IE8b1 with IE7 Emulation ON, first in the x86 version, then in x64. (I'm

running Vista Ultimate x64, and I get the same results with IE7 Emulation

OFF.) Here's what I see:

 

At:

http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36hr_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar

 

in IE8b1 x86, I see the buff-colored highway road map. When I click on the

Play arrow below the map, maybe there is some animation, but apparently not

much is happening in your weather today.

 

In IE8b1 x64, I see the background for the map, but no map - just a big

square patch of white. At the bottom there is a link to "Get Flash".

Clicking that gets me the Adobe page with a "TechNote" titled "Flash Player

support on 64-bit operating systems" and two statements that say:

ISSUE:

Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser.

However, you can run Flash Player in a 32-bit browser running on a 64-bit

operating system.

REASON

Adobe is working on Flash Player support for 64-bit platforms as part of our

ongoing commitment to the cross-platform compatibility of Flash Player. We

have not yet announced timing or release dates.

 

 

At:

http://www.weather.com/weather/map/USVA0808?clip=704&region=null&collection=localwxforecast&presname=Warrenton,%20VA%20Forecast&name=usinterstateforecastday3_large_animated&day=1

 

In IE8b1 x86, I see a static green weather map. When I click on Show map in

motion, it loads the animation and then shows it. At first there seems to

be no action at all, but then I see a small rain shower dot in the south end

of Delaware. It appears and disappears as the animation loops.

 

In IE8b1 x64, I see the same thing. The animation works just as in x86!

;<)

 

 

So the only non-working combo seems to be the first map, and only in IE8b1

x64. That is, in the 64-bit browser running on 64-bit Vista. And it fails

only for the first URL, not the second. So the problem may be in that web

page, not in Vista - or even in Flash.

 

Matrix: 32-bit IE 64-bit IE

First URL Works Doesn't Work

Second URL Works Works

 

It seems that Adobe doesn't even know that their Flash Player works with

64-bit browsers - sometimes.

 

 

Now, since - as I said - I'm not deeply involved in the thread, I'll back

off and let you and Robert, Colin, Tony, et al, continue.

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

 

 

"Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

news:#mTPDJi1IHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>

> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message

> news:ebuY9Dh1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:%23KctM8Y1IHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%23bgEMqX1IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

>>>> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

>>>> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

>>>>>

>>>>> I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather sites

>>>>> on

>>>>> this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with the

>>>>> IE7

>>>>> with Vista x86.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

>>>

>>> The map on the page page won't even render when I switch to the IE x64

>>> http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36hr_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar

>>>

>>> Jan :)

>>

>>

>> Ok. Well, now that we know some other Vista x64 users are reading this

>> perhaps you will find out at least how common this symptom is? <eg>

>>

>> Otherwise one way to try to get more clues about what is different

>> in the two cases is to use ProcMon. E.g. open the above link as the

>> first

>> thing for a new iexplore.exe process to do. That way you will see the

>> modules being loaded. If something is not being loaded in the bad case

>> it might even be sufficient just to use the Process filter (e.g. ignore

>> RegMon

>> and FileMon aspects as hopefully extraneous noise.) Then, if that's not

>> enough add in the FileMon type tracing. Etc. Note that by default

>> ProcMon

>> captures all the detail anyway, so you can always save the trace and

>> reanalyse

>> it later with different filters. Note too that when you have two

>> supposedly

>> nearly identical saved traces you can analyse them side-by-side.

>> Unfortunately though you have to use your eyeballs instead of a diff

>> program

>> to do that because of all the other details such as timestamps, etc.

>> which

>> would make a programmed difference report impractical.

>

> I will endeavor the above as gray matter comprehends. :-) While I have

> all these tools, analysis of such is not one of my more deft attributes.

> <grin> Expecially, when it doing visual comparisions, as vision in one eye

> is very limited so extended study is not always an easy thing. However,

> the programs do have merit and can offer a good information.

>>

>> Hmm... it would help if ProcMon didn't BSOD as often as it does but...

>> ; )

>

> Indeed! :-)

>>

>> BTW it would probably help if you elaborated on your symptom.

>> E.g. do you see the map? Does right-clicking on the map give the

>> same menu? Etc.

>

> The map here does not appear at all:

> http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36hr_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar

>

> The map here renders but when I click the Show Map In Motion it tries to

> change to the animation but just hangs indefinitely.

> http://www.weather.com/weather/map/USVA0808?clip=704&region=null&collection=localwxforecast&presname=Warrenton,%20VA%20Forecast&name=usinterstateforecastday3_large_animated&day=1

>>

>> Also, have you checked on the Adobe forums for previous reports

>> of the same symptom?

>

> I've check out some that speak of animation problems, but, nothing is

> related to having previously installed the IE8, as least not from what I

> could tell, nor were the rendering and animation problems the same.

>

> When I try to install the Adobe Flash, it says that I have it installed,

> yet, I have unintsalled it earlier to reinstall and see if that might

> help. Also, the Adobe Active X download is blocked by IE and I have not

> yet been able to find how to unblock it. Putting it in my Trusted Zone

> does not work, nor does any of the Security allowances I have made. So, I

> can't reinstall it. Although, it says it is installed. So, something may

> be amiss too. This is all very strange, as it just started since I

> uninstalled the IE8. The Flash and all had been working fine until then.

>

> Jan :)

>

>>

>>

>> Good luck

>>

>> Robert

>>>>

>>>>> This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

>>>>> returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can

>>>>> think of

>>>>> and still no solution.

>>>>>

>>>>> Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be appreciated.

>>>>> (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with that

>>>>> suggestion.)

>>>>>

>>>>> Jan :)

Guest Tony Sperling

Guest Tony Sperling

Posted
Posted

Re: No longer have animation

 

Re: No longer have animation

 

Oh, you guys have me worried now - the machine is away for the moment, so

cannot really check right now, but I am quite sure that I did away with it

once in a fit of despair. Of course, it stays installed under the hood but

it looks gone, and I suspect that when you activate it again it should check

that everything it expects to find really is there. As a spinal reaction

after finding MP Classic I give Media Player the same treatment whenever I

install something new, so I cannot be mistaken, (I hope) but I'll give a

hoot in a few days when it's back home again.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

news:2EB225C9-1638-4EA9-8877-0A20422AA76C@microsoft.com...

> Hi, Tony.

>

> > Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it?

>

> Right. As Microsoft told the court, IE is so tightly integrated into

WinXP

> that it can't be removed. I had no idea that it was removable in non-US

> editions.

>

> WinXP includes IE6, which can be upgraded since IE7 arrived. Vista

started

> with IE7, which is still included on every DVD. Many of us are now

involved

> in the public beta of IE8, which can run on both WinXP and Vista,

replacing

> IE6 or IE7, as appropriate. For more, see

> microsoft.public.internetexplorer.beta.

>

> But IE6 can't be removed (by us mere mortals - in the US, at least) from

> WinXP or IE7 from Vista.

>

> And be nice to Jan. She's a Cherokee.

>

> RC

> --

> R. C. White, CPA

> San Marcos, TX

> rc@grandecom.net

> Microsoft Windows MVP

> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:#Om#gYd1IHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Well, maybe not in reality, but in XP you can remove IE as one of the

> > 'Windows Components' - which will remove associations and (I think?) the

> > *.EXE while leaving the *.DLL's which other system components rely on.

> >

> > Anyhow, re-activating it, should give you some certainty that everything

> > is

> > working right across the system.

> >

> > You are right though, I have no idea if this functionality still exist

in

> > Vista? It has been there for ages - and I think it is part of the Court

> > settlement over the IE integration in the system, so I believe the

option

> > 'should' be there. Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it?

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> >

> > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> > news:58D2A951-EA40-4BB5-9908-552F7D6128C6@microsoft.com...

> >> Can he can uninstall IE7? It is the base IE in Vista.

> >>

> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> >> news:%23FZPEPZ1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> > Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me

> >> > not

> >> > being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting

> >> > (coldboot!) and re-install?

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Tony. . .

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> >> > news:uObXa8Y1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> >>

> >> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:16361C0D-34D8-43AA-A6E4-225447B36F69@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > Robert,

> >> >> > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here:

> >> >> >

> >> >

> >

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_activex_051508.exe

> >> >> > Post back your results.

> >> >> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again.

> >> >>

> >> >> Nope, that has been installed.

> >> >>

> >> >> Jan :)

> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Carlos

> >> >> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> (cross-post added to 64bit General)

> >> >> >> "Jan :)" <abuse@localhost.invalid> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:udaEPdV1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >> > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather

> >> >> >> > sites

> >> >> >> > on

> >> >> >> > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines

with

> >> >> >> > the

> >> >> >> > IE7

> >> >> >> > with Vista x86.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; )

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and

> >> >> >> > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I

> > can

> >> >> >> > think of

> >> >> >> > and still no solution.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be

> >> > appreciated.

> >> >> >> > (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother

with

> >> > that

> >> >> >> > suggestion.)

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Jan :)

>

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