64-bit Cisco VPN Client

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:09FE102D-0FA0-43DF-B39F-A69799471C0B@microsoft.com...

>I bought an HP Notebook to replace an old desktop that was running Windows

>XP Pro. The notebook was configured with:

> a.. Vista Home Premium (64-bit) SP1

> b.. Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 GHz

> c.. 4.00 GB RAM

> To my dismay, I have discovered that the VPN client that my government

> agency requires to connect to my office network will not install on the

> notebook. The client is a 32-bit program and my IT department does not

> provide a 64-bit client. So my new notebook was rendered useless as a

> computer to telework with.

>

> I configured it as a 64-bit Vista OS because HP sales told me it was

> needed in order to be able to use the 4 GB of RAM. With memory becoming

> more affordable, it seems to me that more purchasers of new PCs will be

> taking advantage of the 4+ RAM options and hopefully companies like Cisco

> will see fit to release 64-bit versions of their programs.

>

> I have replaced the OS with a 32-bit Vista Home Premium and installed the

> VPN client. The tradeoff: loss of about a gigabyte of RAM for the ability

> to use my notebook to do my job.

July 2, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

I spent hours on the phone with HP and my agency's IT department looking for

a workaround. No one offered running the Cisco VPN client in a virtual

machine. If they had, and if I had confidence in how to do that, I would

have tried it before sacrificing a gig of RAM and installing the 32-bit

Vista.

I suspect that going back to the 64-bit Vista to then attempt to:

a) install the 32-bit client (It wouldn't install on Vista 64)

b) run it in VM mode

would be a significant undertaking with no guarantee that it will work.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:F2926BAD-B696-47AB-A0D5-C686CDB7B266@microsoft.com...

> yes, we need the Cisco's and Adobe's and others to get with the program.

>

> That being said, you might have been able to work around the problem by

> running the Cisco VPN client in a virtual machine, running Vista (or XP)

> 32-bit in the VM.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:09FE102D-0FA0-43DF-B39F-A69799471C0B@microsoft.com...

>>I bought an HP Notebook to replace an old desktop that was running Windows

>>XP Pro. The notebook was configured with:

>> a.. Vista Home Premium (64-bit) SP1

>> b.. Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 GHz

>> c.. 4.00 GB RAM

>> To my dismay, I have discovered that the VPN client that my government

>> agency requires to connect to my office network will not install on the

>> notebook. The client is a 32-bit program and my IT department does not

>> provide a 64-bit client. So my new notebook was rendered useless as a

>> computer to telework with.

>>

>> I configured it as a 64-bit Vista OS because HP sales told me it was

>> needed in order to be able to use the 4 GB of RAM. With memory becoming

>> more affordable, it seems to me that more purchasers of new PCs will be

>> taking advantage of the 4+ RAM options and hopefully companies like Cisco

>> will see fit to release 64-bit versions of their programs.

>>

>> I have replaced the OS with a 32-bit Vista Home Premium and installed the

>> VPN client. The tradeoff: loss of about a gigabyte of RAM for the

>> ability to use my notebook to do my job.

>

July 2, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

Cisco makes a VPN client that runs on 64 bit WinXP. It is the Cisco

AnyConnect VPN Client. I've been using it for a while now, and it works very

well. Not sure if it would work for you or not, YMMV.

"VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:09FE102D-0FA0-43DF-B39F-A69799471C0B@microsoft.com...

>I bought an HP Notebook to replace an old desktop that was running Windows

>XP Pro. The notebook was configured with:

> a.. Vista Home Premium (64-bit) SP1

> b.. Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 GHz

> c.. 4.00 GB RAM

> To my dismay, I have discovered that the VPN client that my government

> agency requires to connect to my office network will not install on the

> notebook. The client is a 32-bit program and my IT department does not

> provide a 64-bit client. So my new notebook was rendered useless as a

> computer to telework with.

>

> I configured it as a 64-bit Vista OS because HP sales told me it was

> needed in order to be able to use the 4 GB of RAM. With memory becoming

> more affordable, it seems to me that more purchasers of new PCs will be

> taking advantage of the 4+ RAM options and hopefully companies like Cisco

> will see fit to release 64-bit versions of their programs.

>

> I have replaced the OS with a 32-bit Vista Home Premium and installed the

> VPN client. The tradeoff: loss of about a gigabyte of RAM for the ability

> to use my notebook to do my job.

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

No, they probably didn't. I have no way of knowing if it would work, but I

can't think of a single reason why not. It doesn't depend on any hardware

that's not available in the VM. It will connect the VM to your VPN, not the

host, but you can communicate between the host and the guest, so I'm

confident you can work with that.

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:91D4EF38-0F27-4E76-8362-9FA4D8B8E351@microsoft.com...

>I spent hours on the phone with HP and my agency's IT department looking

>for a workaround. No one offered running the Cisco VPN client in a virtual

>machine. If they had, and if I had confidence in how to do that, I would

>have tried it before sacrificing a gig of RAM and installing the 32-bit

>Vista.

>

> I suspect that going back to the 64-bit Vista to then attempt to:

> a) install the 32-bit client (It wouldn't install on Vista 64)

> b) run it in VM mode

> would be a significant undertaking with no guarantee that it will work.

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:F2926BAD-B696-47AB-A0D5-C686CDB7B266@microsoft.com...

>> yes, we need the Cisco's and Adobe's and others to get with the program.

>>

>> That being said, you might have been able to work around the problem by

>> running the Cisco VPN client in a virtual machine, running Vista (or XP)

>> 32-bit in the VM.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:09FE102D-0FA0-43DF-B39F-A69799471C0B@microsoft.com...

>>>I bought an HP Notebook to replace an old desktop that was running

>>>Windows XP Pro. The notebook was configured with:

>>> a.. Vista Home Premium (64-bit) SP1

>>> b.. Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 GHz

>>> c.. 4.00 GB RAM

>>> To my dismay, I have discovered that the VPN client that my government

>>> agency requires to connect to my office network will not install on the

>>> notebook. The client is a 32-bit program and my IT department does not

>>> provide a 64-bit client. So my new notebook was rendered useless as a

>>> computer to telework with.

>>>

>>> I configured it as a 64-bit Vista OS because HP sales told me it was

>>> needed in order to be able to use the 4 GB of RAM. With memory becoming

>>> more affordable, it seems to me that more purchasers of new PCs will be

>>> taking advantage of the 4+ RAM options and hopefully companies like

>>> Cisco will see fit to release 64-bit versions of their programs.

>>>

>>> I have replaced the OS with a 32-bit Vista Home Premium and installed

>>> the VPN client. The tradeoff: loss of about a gigabyte of RAM for the

>>> ability to use my notebook to do my job.

>>

>

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

In message <F07AF527-4424-4821-BD74-B6534EEC955A@microsoft.com> "Charlie

Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>No, they probably didn't. I have no way of knowing if it would work, but I

>can't think of a single reason why not. It doesn't depend on any hardware

>that's not available in the VM. It will connect the VM to your VPN, not the

>host, but you can communicate between the host and the guest, so I'm

>confident you can work with that.

I can tell you that the Cisco VPN client from two or three years ago ran

fine in a VM, although I haven't tested it recently.

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

I have never run a program in a virtual machine and do not have a clue as to

where to start but I am pretty good at following directions.

Do I need to install any additional software on my system to run the client

in a virtual machine? My first challenge is to figure out how to install

the client. Obviously, there must be a different procedure for running the

setup program in order to get it to install. Once installed, how would I

run it "in a virtual machine"?

Also, once connected to my office network, would I also have to run the

application programs I use to perform my job "in a virtual machine"?

Typically, I log on to Windows, connect to the internet, connect the VPN

Client, connect to my network drives, launch Microsoft Outlook to access our

Exchange server and use several programs on my notebook to performs tasks,

e.g. Excel, Access, Word, Acrobat, WordPerfect, etc.

I would like to be able to use all 4 GB of RAM I paid for and I would be

willing to invest the time to set the notebaook back to its original 64-bit

configuration but I need some assiatnace to get me there - even if it's just

a general outline of the steps I need to perform after I restore the

computer to a 64-bit Vista Home Premium edition.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:F07AF527-4424-4821-BD74-B6534EEC955A@microsoft.com...

> No, they probably didn't. I have no way of knowing if it would work, but I

> can't think of a single reason why not. It doesn't depend on any hardware

> that's not available in the VM. It will connect the VM to your VPN, not

> the host, but you can communicate between the host and the guest, so I'm

> confident you can work with that.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:91D4EF38-0F27-4E76-8362-9FA4D8B8E351@microsoft.com...

>>I spent hours on the phone with HP and my agency's IT department looking

>>for a workaround. No one offered running the Cisco VPN client in a

>>virtual machine. If they had, and if I had confidence in how to do that,

>>I would have tried it before sacrificing a gig of RAM and installing the

>>32-bit Vista.

>>

>> I suspect that going back to the 64-bit Vista to then attempt to:

>> a) install the 32-bit client (It wouldn't install on Vista 64)

>> b) run it in VM mode

>> would be a significant undertaking with no guarantee that it will work.

>>

>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

>> news:F2926BAD-B696-47AB-A0D5-C686CDB7B266@microsoft.com...

>>> yes, we need the Cisco's and Adobe's and others to get with the program.

>>>

>>> That being said, you might have been able to work around the problem by

>>> running the Cisco VPN client in a virtual machine, running Vista (or XP)

>>> 32-bit in the VM.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Charlie.

>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>

>>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:09FE102D-0FA0-43DF-B39F-A69799471C0B@microsoft.com...

>>>>I bought an HP Notebook to replace an old desktop that was running

>>>>Windows XP Pro. The notebook was configured with:

>>>> a.. Vista Home Premium (64-bit) SP1

>>>> b.. Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 GHz

>>>> c.. 4.00 GB RAM

>>>> To my dismay, I have discovered that the VPN client that my government

>>>> agency requires to connect to my office network will not install on the

>>>> notebook. The client is a 32-bit program and my IT department does not

>>>> provide a 64-bit client. So my new notebook was rendered useless as a

>>>> computer to telework with.

>>>>

>>>> I configured it as a 64-bit Vista OS because HP sales told me it was

>>>> needed in order to be able to use the 4 GB of RAM. With memory

>>>> becoming more affordable, it seems to me that more purchasers of new

>>>> PCs will be taking advantage of the 4+ RAM options and hopefully

>>>> companies like Cisco will see fit to release 64-bit versions of their

>>>> programs.

>>>>

>>>> I have replaced the OS with a 32-bit Vista Home Premium and installed

>>>> the VPN client. The tradeoff: loss of about a gigabyte of RAM for the

>>>> ability to use my notebook to do my job.

>>>

>>

>

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

In message <D3DC5855-4575-4460-90E0-513F8FDF9A64@microsoft.com>

"VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have never run a program in a virtual machine and do not have a clue as to

>where to start but I am pretty good at following directions.

>

>Do I need to install any additional software on my system to run the client

>in a virtual machine? My first challenge is to figure out how to install

>the client. Obviously, there must be a different procedure for running the

>setup program in order to get it to install. Once installed, how would I

>run it "in a virtual machine"?

>

>Also, once connected to my office network, would I also have to run the

>application programs I use to perform my job "in a virtual machine"?

>Typically, I log on to Windows, connect to the internet, connect the VPN

>Client, connect to my network drives, launch Microsoft Outlook to access our

>Exchange server and use several programs on my notebook to performs tasks,

>e.g. Excel, Access, Word, Acrobat, WordPerfect, etc.

>

>I would like to be able to use all 4 GB of RAM I paid for and I would be

>willing to invest the time to set the notebaook back to its original 64-bit

>configuration but I need some assiatnace to get me there - even if it's just

>a general outline of the steps I need to perform after I restore the

>computer to a 64-bit Vista Home Premium edition.

The first question is where did you get the 32-bit version of Vista? Did

you buy it separately?

The reason I ask, you'll need a second OS license for this purpose.

In short, what you'll need to do is grab some virtual machine software.

Microsoft's VirtualPC will do the job nicely, and it's free.

Once the VM software is installed, you create a virtual machine in the

software and install an operating system into that virtual machine.

Think if it like an entirely separate computer that physically lives

inside your machine. It has it's own set of hardware which is unrelated

to your hardware, including it's own hard drive and operating system.

Once you get that OS up and running (and install the appropriate "tools"

or "additions" or whatever, you'll want to read the VM software's

documentation for the details), then you install the Cisco VPN software

and go nuts.

This is a very high level overview, but it might get you started, or at

least gives you a place to start reading and decide if it's worth the

hassle.

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

The process requires installing some sort of virtualization software

(Virtual PC is a good choice here, and free), then installing an operating

system in a Virtual Machine created with that virtualization software. This

could be XP or Vista, personally since it's a single use VM, I'd choose XP -

the resource requirements are less. You'll need a license for that OS, by

the way. Now, once you have the new OS installed, and communicating with the

world, install the Cisco software.

Trying to give you a "step by step" here is a bit beyond the scope of this

newsgroup, frankly. But there is a VirtualPC specific newsgroup, some

excellent blogs, and full download documentation from microsoft.com on

VirtualPC and it's setup and configuration.

BTW, I first talked about this alternative quite a while back:

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/archive/2006/03/29/88280.aspx. There I used

it as an alternative to dual-booting XP x64, and we didn't yet have a

version of VirtualPC that worked in 64-bit, but the basic concept hasn't

changed - use a virtualized legacy OS running on your new 64-bit hardware to

get around compatibility issues.

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:D3DC5855-4575-4460-90E0-513F8FDF9A64@microsoft.com...

>I have never run a program in a virtual machine and do not have a clue as

>to where to start but I am pretty good at following directions.

>

> Do I need to install any additional software on my system to run the

> client in a virtual machine? My first challenge is to figure out how to

> install the client. Obviously, there must be a different procedure for

> running the setup program in order to get it to install. Once installed,

> how would I run it "in a virtual machine"?

>

> Also, once connected to my office network, would I also have to run the

> application programs I use to perform my job "in a virtual machine"?

> Typically, I log on to Windows, connect to the internet, connect the VPN

> Client, connect to my network drives, launch Microsoft Outlook to access

> our Exchange server and use several programs on my notebook to performs

> tasks, e.g. Excel, Access, Word, Acrobat, WordPerfect, etc.

>

> I would like to be able to use all 4 GB of RAM I paid for and I would be

> willing to invest the time to set the notebaook back to its original

> 64-bit configuration but I need some assiatnace to get me there - even if

> it's just a general outline of the steps I need to perform after I restore

> the computer to a 64-bit Vista Home Premium edition.

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:F07AF527-4424-4821-BD74-B6534EEC955A@microsoft.com...

>> No, they probably didn't. I have no way of knowing if it would work, but

>> I can't think of a single reason why not. It doesn't depend on any

>> hardware that's not available in the VM. It will connect the VM to your

>> VPN, not the host, but you can communicate between the host and the

>> guest, so I'm confident you can work with that.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:91D4EF38-0F27-4E76-8362-9FA4D8B8E351@microsoft.com...

>>>I spent hours on the phone with HP and my agency's IT department looking

>>>for a workaround. No one offered running the Cisco VPN client in a

>>>virtual machine. If they had, and if I had confidence in how to do that,

>>>I would have tried it before sacrificing a gig of RAM and installing the

>>>32-bit Vista.

>>>

>>> I suspect that going back to the 64-bit Vista to then attempt to:

>>> a) install the 32-bit client (It wouldn't install on Vista 64)

>>> b) run it in VM mode

>>> would be a significant undertaking with no guarantee that it will work.

>>>

>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>> message news:F2926BAD-B696-47AB-A0D5-C686CDB7B266@microsoft.com...

>>>> yes, we need the Cisco's and Adobe's and others to get with the

>>>> program.

>>>>

>>>> That being said, you might have been able to work around the problem by

>>>> running the Cisco VPN client in a virtual machine, running Vista (or

>>>> XP) 32-bit in the VM.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Charlie.

>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>

>>>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:09FE102D-0FA0-43DF-B39F-A69799471C0B@microsoft.com...

>>>>>I bought an HP Notebook to replace an old desktop that was running

>>>>>Windows XP Pro. The notebook was configured with:

>>>>> a.. Vista Home Premium (64-bit) SP1

>>>>> b.. Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 GHz

>>>>> c.. 4.00 GB RAM

>>>>> To my dismay, I have discovered that the VPN client that my government

>>>>> agency requires to connect to my office network will not install on

>>>>> the notebook. The client is a 32-bit program and my IT department

>>>>> does not provide a 64-bit client. So my new notebook was rendered

>>>>> useless as a computer to telework with.

>>>>>

>>>>> I configured it as a 64-bit Vista OS because HP sales told me it was

>>>>> needed in order to be able to use the 4 GB of RAM. With memory

>>>>> becoming more affordable, it seems to me that more purchasers of new

>>>>> PCs will be taking advantage of the 4+ RAM options and hopefully

>>>>> companies like Cisco will see fit to release 64-bit versions of their

>>>>> programs.

>>>>>

>>>>> I have replaced the OS with a 32-bit Vista Home Premium and installed

>>>>> the VPN client. The tradeoff: loss of about a gigabyte of RAM for the

>>>>> ability to use my notebook to do my job.

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

I discovered that notebook wouldn't allow the VPN client to install the

first day I used it. I called HP customer support and after several calls

they agreed that, because the computer was brand new, they would replace it

with a 32-bit notebook as part of their customer satisfaction policy. After

some discussion about how that would cost more money than to simply replace

the OS, they agreed to ship me the 32-bit recovery DVDs for the system which

allowed me to restore it to the factory settings for a 32-bit Vista system.

I still have the original 64-bit recovery DVDs. I can get it back to the

original 64-bit settings but I do not believe that the 32-bit "recovery"

DVDs will allow me to install the 32-bit OS in a virtual machine. I may

have to buy a retail license. I will probably take Charlie Russell's

recommendation and "choose XP - the resource requirements are less."

I know your reply is a high level summary but I get it. I understand the

concept and the implementation details will come with some research.

Thanks for your assistance.

"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message

news:6bto64ldl32simfclkbsjvmulsr9o29rhe@4ax.com...

> In message <D3DC5855-4575-4460-90E0-513F8FDF9A64@microsoft.com>

> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote:

>

>>I have never run a program in a virtual machine and do not have a clue as

>>to

>>where to start but I am pretty good at following directions.

>>

>>Do I need to install any additional software on my system to run the

>>client

>>in a virtual machine? My first challenge is to figure out how to install

>>the client. Obviously, there must be a different procedure for running

>>the

>>setup program in order to get it to install. Once installed, how would I

>>run it "in a virtual machine"?

>>

>>Also, once connected to my office network, would I also have to run the

>>application programs I use to perform my job "in a virtual machine"?

>>Typically, I log on to Windows, connect to the internet, connect the VPN

>>Client, connect to my network drives, launch Microsoft Outlook to access

>>our

>>Exchange server and use several programs on my notebook to performs tasks,

>>e.g. Excel, Access, Word, Acrobat, WordPerfect, etc.

>>

>>I would like to be able to use all 4 GB of RAM I paid for and I would be

>>willing to invest the time to set the notebaook back to its original

>>64-bit

>>configuration but I need some assiatnace to get me there - even if it's

>>just

>>a general outline of the steps I need to perform after I restore the

>>computer to a 64-bit Vista Home Premium edition.

>

> The first question is where did you get the 32-bit version of Vista? Did

> you buy it separately?

>

> The reason I ask, you'll need a second OS license for this purpose.

>

> In short, what you'll need to do is grab some virtual machine software.

> Microsoft's VirtualPC will do the job nicely, and it's free.

>

> Once the VM software is installed, you create a virtual machine in the

> software and install an operating system into that virtual machine.

>

> Think if it like an entirely separate computer that physically lives

> inside your machine. It has it's own set of hardware which is unrelated

> to your hardware, including it's own hard drive and operating system.

>

> Once you get that OS up and running (and install the appropriate "tools"

> or "additions" or whatever, you'll want to read the VM software's

> documentation for the details), then you install the Cisco VPN software

> and go nuts.

>

> This is a very high level overview, but it might get you started, or at

> least gives you a place to start reading and decide if it's worth the

> hassle.

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

Thanks Charlie.

I understand the concept and although it sounds like more than an

afternoon's worth of work, I am going to try it. I appreciate your

recommendations and will start with the VirtualPC setup and work my way

through the OS installation and the required networking configurations to

set up my telework office.

Thank again.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:D7C4CDD0-EFBE-4305-9F41-A8C1FFA19BDE@microsoft.com...

> The process requires installing some sort of virtualization software

> (Virtual PC is a good choice here, and free), then installing an operating

> system in a Virtual Machine created with that virtualization software.

> This could be XP or Vista, personally since it's a single use VM, I'd

> choose XP - the resource requirements are less. You'll need a license for

> that OS, by the way. Now, once you have the new OS installed, and

> communicating with the world, install the Cisco software.

>

> Trying to give you a "step by step" here is a bit beyond the scope of this

> newsgroup, frankly. But there is a VirtualPC specific newsgroup, some

> excellent blogs, and full download documentation from microsoft.com on

> VirtualPC and it's setup and configuration.

>

> BTW, I first talked about this alternative quite a while back:

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/archive/2006/03/29/88280.aspx. There I

> used it as an alternative to dual-booting XP x64, and we didn't yet have a

> version of VirtualPC that worked in 64-bit, but the basic concept hasn't

> changed - use a virtualized legacy OS running on your new 64-bit hardware

> to get around compatibility issues.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:D3DC5855-4575-4460-90E0-513F8FDF9A64@microsoft.com...

>>I have never run a program in a virtual machine and do not have a clue as

>>to where to start but I am pretty good at following directions.

>>

>> Do I need to install any additional software on my system to run the

>> client in a virtual machine? My first challenge is to figure out how to

>> install the client. Obviously, there must be a different procedure for

>> running the setup program in order to get it to install. Once installed,

>> how would I run it "in a virtual machine"?

>>

>> Also, once connected to my office network, would I also have to run the

>> application programs I use to perform my job "in a virtual machine"?

>> Typically, I log on to Windows, connect to the internet, connect the VPN

>> Client, connect to my network drives, launch Microsoft Outlook to access

>> our Exchange server and use several programs on my notebook to performs

>> tasks, e.g. Excel, Access, Word, Acrobat, WordPerfect, etc.

>>

>> I would like to be able to use all 4 GB of RAM I paid for and I would be

>> willing to invest the time to set the notebaook back to its original

>> 64-bit configuration but I need some assiatnace to get me there - even if

>> it's just a general outline of the steps I need to perform after I

>> restore the computer to a 64-bit Vista Home Premium edition.

>>

>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

>> news:F07AF527-4424-4821-BD74-B6534EEC955A@microsoft.com...

>>> No, they probably didn't. I have no way of knowing if it would work, but

>>> I can't think of a single reason why not. It doesn't depend on any

>>> hardware that's not available in the VM. It will connect the VM to your

>>> VPN, not the host, but you can communicate between the host and the

>>> guest, so I'm confident you can work with that.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Charlie.

>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>

>>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:91D4EF38-0F27-4E76-8362-9FA4D8B8E351@microsoft.com...

>>>>I spent hours on the phone with HP and my agency's IT department looking

>>>>for a workaround. No one offered running the Cisco VPN client in a

>>>>virtual machine. If they had, and if I had confidence in how to do

>>>>that, I would have tried it before sacrificing a gig of RAM and

>>>>installing the 32-bit Vista.

>>>>

>>>> I suspect that going back to the 64-bit Vista to then attempt to:

>>>> a) install the 32-bit client (It wouldn't install on Vista 64)

>>>> b) run it in VM mode

>>>> would be a significant undertaking with no guarantee that it will work.

>>>>

>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>>> message news:F2926BAD-B696-47AB-A0D5-C686CDB7B266@microsoft.com...

>>>>> yes, we need the Cisco's and Adobe's and others to get with the

>>>>> program.

>>>>>

>>>>> That being said, you might have been able to work around the problem

>>>>> by running the Cisco VPN client in a virtual machine, running Vista

>>>>> (or XP) 32-bit in the VM.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Charlie.

>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>>

>>>>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:09FE102D-0FA0-43DF-B39F-A69799471C0B@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>I bought an HP Notebook to replace an old desktop that was running

>>>>>>Windows XP Pro. The notebook was configured with:

>>>>>> a.. Vista Home Premium (64-bit) SP1

>>>>>> b.. Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 GHz

>>>>>> c.. 4.00 GB RAM

>>>>>> To my dismay, I have discovered that the VPN client that my

>>>>>> government agency requires to connect to my office network will not

>>>>>> install on the notebook. The client is a 32-bit program and my IT

>>>>>> department does not provide a 64-bit client. So my new notebook was

>>>>>> rendered useless as a computer to telework with.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I configured it as a 64-bit Vista OS because HP sales told me it was

>>>>>> needed in order to be able to use the 4 GB of RAM. With memory

>>>>>> becoming more affordable, it seems to me that more purchasers of new

>>>>>> PCs will be taking advantage of the 4+ RAM options and hopefully

>>>>>> companies like Cisco will see fit to release 64-bit versions of their

>>>>>> programs.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have replaced the OS with a 32-bit Vista Home Premium and installed

>>>>>> the VPN client. The tradeoff: loss of about a gigabyte of RAM for

>>>>>> the ability to use my notebook to do my job.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

I run both Cisco and CheckPoint VPN clients in a VM running Win2000, and

they both work very well.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:F07AF527-4424-4821-BD74-B6534EEC955A@microsoft.com...

> No, they probably didn't. I have no way of knowing if it would work, but I

> can't think of a single reason why not. It doesn't depend on any hardware

> that's not available in the VM. It will connect the VM to your VPN, not

> the host, but you can communicate between the host and the guest, so I'm

> confident you can work with that.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:91D4EF38-0F27-4E76-8362-9FA4D8B8E351@microsoft.com...

>>I spent hours on the phone with HP and my agency's IT department looking

>>for a workaround. No one offered running the Cisco VPN client in a

>>virtual machine. If they had, and if I had confidence in how to do that,

>>I would have tried it before sacrificing a gig of RAM and installing the

>>32-bit Vista.

>>

>> I suspect that going back to the 64-bit Vista to then attempt to:

>> a) install the 32-bit client (It wouldn't install on Vista 64)

>> b) run it in VM mode

>> would be a significant undertaking with no guarantee that it will work.

>>

>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

>> news:F2926BAD-B696-47AB-A0D5-C686CDB7B266@microsoft.com...

>>> yes, we need the Cisco's and Adobe's and others to get with the program.

>>>

>>> That being said, you might have been able to work around the problem by

>>> running the Cisco VPN client in a virtual machine, running Vista (or XP)

>>> 32-bit in the VM.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Charlie.

>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>

>>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:09FE102D-0FA0-43DF-B39F-A69799471C0B@microsoft.com...

>>>>I bought an HP Notebook to replace an old desktop that was running

>>>>Windows XP Pro. The notebook was configured with:

>>>> a.. Vista Home Premium (64-bit) SP1

>>>> b.. Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 GHz

>>>> c.. 4.00 GB RAM

>>>> To my dismay, I have discovered that the VPN client that my government

>>>> agency requires to connect to my office network will not install on the

>>>> notebook. The client is a 32-bit program and my IT department does not

>>>> provide a 64-bit client. So my new notebook was rendered useless as a

>>>> computer to telework with.

>>>>

>>>> I configured it as a 64-bit Vista OS because HP sales told me it was

>>>> needed in order to be able to use the 4 GB of RAM. With memory

>>>> becoming more affordable, it seems to me that more purchasers of new

>>>> PCs will be taking advantage of the 4+ RAM options and hopefully

>>>> companies like Cisco will see fit to release 64-bit versions of their

>>>> programs.

>>>>

>>>> I have replaced the OS with a 32-bit Vista Home Premium and installed

>>>> the VPN client. The tradeoff: loss of about a gigabyte of RAM for the

>>>> ability to use my notebook to do my job.

>>>

>>

>

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

You are correct. I checked with my wife's HP laptop recovery cd just for

grins and you cannot use it with a vm. You wouldn't be licensed to anyway.

You cannot assign either of the OEM licenses to any other device, even on

the same computer. A virtual machine is another device for licensing

purposes. I also suggest you get an XP Pro retail license for the vm.

"VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23USgJlS3IHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>I discovered that notebook wouldn't allow the VPN client to install the

> first day I used it. I called HP customer support and after several calls

> they agreed that, because the computer was brand new, they would replace

> it

> with a 32-bit notebook as part of their customer satisfaction policy.

> After

> some discussion about how that would cost more money than to simply

> replace

> the OS, they agreed to ship me the 32-bit recovery DVDs for the system

> which

> allowed me to restore it to the factory settings for a 32-bit Vista

> system.

>

> I still have the original 64-bit recovery DVDs. I can get it back to the

> original 64-bit settings but I do not believe that the 32-bit "recovery"

> DVDs will allow me to install the 32-bit OS in a virtual machine. I may

> have to buy a retail license. I will probably take Charlie Russell's

> recommendation and "choose XP - the resource requirements are less."

>

> I know your reply is a high level summary but I get it. I understand the

> concept and the implementation details will come with some research.

>

> Thanks for your assistance.

>

> "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message

> news:6bto64ldl32simfclkbsjvmulsr9o29rhe@4ax.com...

>> In message <D3DC5855-4575-4460-90E0-513F8FDF9A64@microsoft.com>

>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>>I have never run a program in a virtual machine and do not have a clue as

>>>to

>>>where to start but I am pretty good at following directions.

>>>

>>>Do I need to install any additional software on my system to run the

>>>client

>>>in a virtual machine? My first challenge is to figure out how to install

>>>the client. Obviously, there must be a different procedure for running

>>>the

>>>setup program in order to get it to install. Once installed, how would I

>>>run it "in a virtual machine"?

>>>

>>>Also, once connected to my office network, would I also have to run the

>>>application programs I use to perform my job "in a virtual machine"?

>>>Typically, I log on to Windows, connect to the internet, connect the VPN

>>>Client, connect to my network drives, launch Microsoft Outlook to access

>>>our

>>>Exchange server and use several programs on my notebook to performs

>>>tasks,

>>>e.g. Excel, Access, Word, Acrobat, WordPerfect, etc.

>>>

>>>I would like to be able to use all 4 GB of RAM I paid for and I would be

>>>willing to invest the time to set the notebaook back to its original

>>>64-bit

>>>configuration but I need some assiatnace to get me there - even if it's

>>>just

>>>a general outline of the steps I need to perform after I restore the

>>>computer to a 64-bit Vista Home Premium edition.

>>

>> The first question is where did you get the 32-bit version of Vista? Did

>> you buy it separately?

>>

>> The reason I ask, you'll need a second OS license for this purpose.

>>

>> In short, what you'll need to do is grab some virtual machine software.

>> Microsoft's VirtualPC will do the job nicely, and it's free.

>>

>> Once the VM software is installed, you create a virtual machine in the

>> software and install an operating system into that virtual machine.

>>

>> Think if it like an entirely separate computer that physically lives

>> inside your machine. It has it's own set of hardware which is unrelated

>> to your hardware, including it's own hard drive and operating system.

>>

>> Once you get that OS up and running (and install the appropriate "tools"

>> or "additions" or whatever, you'll want to read the VM software's

>> documentation for the details), then you install the Cisco VPN software

>> and go nuts.

>>

>> This is a very high level overview, but it might get you started, or at

>> least gives you a place to start reading and decide if it's worth the

>> hassle.

>

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

Think of a virtual machine like you do any computer. You install and

configure Windows on it exactly the same way you would on any other

computer. Don't let the virtualization part distract you. You can keep it

simple.

"VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:BA3DA279-98BF-4D48-A2DE-B52A48B2872E@microsoft.com...

> Thanks Charlie.

>

> I understand the concept and although it sounds like more than an

> afternoon's worth of work, I am going to try it. I appreciate your

> recommendations and will start with the VirtualPC setup and work my way

> through the OS installation and the required networking configurations to

> set up my telework office.

>

> Thank again.

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:D7C4CDD0-EFBE-4305-9F41-A8C1FFA19BDE@microsoft.com...

>> The process requires installing some sort of virtualization software

>> (Virtual PC is a good choice here, and free), then installing an

>> operating system in a Virtual Machine created with that virtualization

>> software. This could be XP or Vista, personally since it's a single use

>> VM, I'd choose XP - the resource requirements are less. You'll need a

>> license for that OS, by the way. Now, once you have the new OS installed,

>> and communicating with the world, install the Cisco software.

>>

>> Trying to give you a "step by step" here is a bit beyond the scope of

>> this newsgroup, frankly. But there is a VirtualPC specific newsgroup,

>> some excellent blogs, and full download documentation from microsoft.com

>> on VirtualPC and it's setup and configuration.

>>

>> BTW, I first talked about this alternative quite a while back:

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/archive/2006/03/29/88280.aspx. There I

>> used it as an alternative to dual-booting XP x64, and we didn't yet have

>> a version of VirtualPC that worked in 64-bit, but the basic concept

>> hasn't changed - use a virtualized legacy OS running on your new 64-bit

>> hardware to get around compatibility issues.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:D3DC5855-4575-4460-90E0-513F8FDF9A64@microsoft.com...

>>>I have never run a program in a virtual machine and do not have a clue as

>>>to where to start but I am pretty good at following directions.

>>>

>>> Do I need to install any additional software on my system to run the

>>> client in a virtual machine? My first challenge is to figure out how to

>>> install the client. Obviously, there must be a different procedure for

>>> running the setup program in order to get it to install. Once

>>> installed, how would I run it "in a virtual machine"?

>>>

>>> Also, once connected to my office network, would I also have to run the

>>> application programs I use to perform my job "in a virtual machine"?

>>> Typically, I log on to Windows, connect to the internet, connect the VPN

>>> Client, connect to my network drives, launch Microsoft Outlook to access

>>> our Exchange server and use several programs on my notebook to performs

>>> tasks, e.g. Excel, Access, Word, Acrobat, WordPerfect, etc.

>>>

>>> I would like to be able to use all 4 GB of RAM I paid for and I would be

>>> willing to invest the time to set the notebaook back to its original

>>> 64-bit configuration but I need some assiatnace to get me there - even

>>> if it's just a general outline of the steps I need to perform after I

>>> restore the computer to a 64-bit Vista Home Premium edition.

>>>

>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>> message news:F07AF527-4424-4821-BD74-B6534EEC955A@microsoft.com...

>>>> No, they probably didn't. I have no way of knowing if it would work,

>>>> but I can't think of a single reason why not. It doesn't depend on any

>>>> hardware that's not available in the VM. It will connect the VM to your

>>>> VPN, not the host, but you can communicate between the host and the

>>>> guest, so I'm confident you can work with that.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Charlie.

>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>

>>>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:91D4EF38-0F27-4E76-8362-9FA4D8B8E351@microsoft.com...

>>>>>I spent hours on the phone with HP and my agency's IT department

>>>>>looking for a workaround. No one offered running the Cisco VPN client

>>>>>in a virtual machine. If they had, and if I had confidence in how to

>>>>>do that, I would have tried it before sacrificing a gig of RAM and

>>>>>installing the 32-bit Vista.

>>>>>

>>>>> I suspect that going back to the 64-bit Vista to then attempt to:

>>>>> a) install the 32-bit client (It wouldn't install on Vista 64)

>>>>> b) run it in VM mode

>>>>> would be a significant undertaking with no guarantee that it will

>>>>> work.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>>>> message news:F2926BAD-B696-47AB-A0D5-C686CDB7B266@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> yes, we need the Cisco's and Adobe's and others to get with the

>>>>>> program.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> That being said, you might have been able to work around the problem

>>>>>> by running the Cisco VPN client in a virtual machine, running Vista

>>>>>> (or XP) 32-bit in the VM.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Charlie.

>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:09FE102D-0FA0-43DF-B39F-A69799471C0B@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>I bought an HP Notebook to replace an old desktop that was running

>>>>>>>Windows XP Pro. The notebook was configured with:

>>>>>>> a.. Vista Home Premium (64-bit) SP1

>>>>>>> b.. Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 GHz

>>>>>>> c.. 4.00 GB RAM

>>>>>>> To my dismay, I have discovered that the VPN client that my

>>>>>>> government agency requires to connect to my office network will not

>>>>>>> install on the notebook. The client is a 32-bit program and my IT

>>>>>>> department does not provide a 64-bit client. So my new notebook was

>>>>>>> rendered useless as a computer to telework with.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I configured it as a 64-bit Vista OS because HP sales told me it was

>>>>>>> needed in order to be able to use the 4 GB of RAM. With memory

>>>>>>> becoming more affordable, it seems to me that more purchasers of new

>>>>>>> PCs will be taking advantage of the 4+ RAM options and hopefully

>>>>>>> companies like Cisco will see fit to release 64-bit versions of

>>>>>>> their programs.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have replaced the OS with a 32-bit Vista Home Premium and

>>>>>>> installed the VPN client. The tradeoff: loss of about a gigabyte of

>>>>>>> RAM for the ability to use my notebook to do my job.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

Colin, you make a really good point. I've seen a lot of users over-think

virtualization and try to make it something different than it is. It's just

exactly like another physical computer, just that sharing space on the same

physical box as its host.

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:F20B63E9-E724-4667-9582-8DDDE0070BCD@microsoft.com...

> Think of a virtual machine like you do any computer. You install and

> configure Windows on it exactly the same way you would on any other

> computer. Don't let the virtualization part distract you. You can keep

> it simple.

>

> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:BA3DA279-98BF-4D48-A2DE-B52A48B2872E@microsoft.com...

>> Thanks Charlie.

>>

>> I understand the concept and although it sounds like more than an

>> afternoon's worth of work, I am going to try it. I appreciate your

>> recommendations and will start with the VirtualPC setup and work my way

>> through the OS installation and the required networking configurations to

>> set up my telework office.

>>

>> Thank again.

>>

>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

>> news:D7C4CDD0-EFBE-4305-9F41-A8C1FFA19BDE@microsoft.com...

>>> The process requires installing some sort of virtualization software

>>> (Virtual PC is a good choice here, and free), then installing an

>>> operating system in a Virtual Machine created with that virtualization

>>> software. This could be XP or Vista, personally since it's a single use

>>> VM, I'd choose XP - the resource requirements are less. You'll need a

>>> license for that OS, by the way. Now, once you have the new OS

>>> installed, and communicating with the world, install the Cisco software.

>>>

>>> Trying to give you a "step by step" here is a bit beyond the scope of

>>> this newsgroup, frankly. But there is a VirtualPC specific newsgroup,

>>> some excellent blogs, and full download documentation from microsoft.com

>>> on VirtualPC and it's setup and configuration.

>>>

>>> BTW, I first talked about this alternative quite a while back:

>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/archive/2006/03/29/88280.aspx. There I

>>> used it as an alternative to dual-booting XP x64, and we didn't yet have

>>> a version of VirtualPC that worked in 64-bit, but the basic concept

>>> hasn't changed - use a virtualized legacy OS running on your new 64-bit

>>> hardware to get around compatibility issues.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Charlie.

>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>

>>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:D3DC5855-4575-4460-90E0-513F8FDF9A64@microsoft.com...

>>>>I have never run a program in a virtual machine and do not have a clue

>>>>as to where to start but I am pretty good at following directions.

>>>>

>>>> Do I need to install any additional software on my system to run the

>>>> client in a virtual machine? My first challenge is to figure out how

>>>> to install the client. Obviously, there must be a different procedure

>>>> for running the setup program in order to get it to install. Once

>>>> installed, how would I run it "in a virtual machine"?

>>>>

>>>> Also, once connected to my office network, would I also have to run the

>>>> application programs I use to perform my job "in a virtual machine"?

>>>> Typically, I log on to Windows, connect to the internet, connect the

>>>> VPN Client, connect to my network drives, launch Microsoft Outlook to

>>>> access our Exchange server and use several programs on my notebook to

>>>> performs tasks, e.g. Excel, Access, Word, Acrobat, WordPerfect, etc.

>>>>

>>>> I would like to be able to use all 4 GB of RAM I paid for and I would

>>>> be willing to invest the time to set the notebaook back to its original

>>>> 64-bit configuration but I need some assiatnace to get me there - even

>>>> if it's just a general outline of the steps I need to perform after I

>>>> restore the computer to a 64-bit Vista Home Premium edition.

>>>>

>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>>> message news:F07AF527-4424-4821-BD74-B6534EEC955A@microsoft.com...

>>>>> No, they probably didn't. I have no way of knowing if it would work,

>>>>> but I can't think of a single reason why not. It doesn't depend on any

>>>>> hardware that's not available in the VM. It will connect the VM to

>>>>> your VPN, not the host, but you can communicate between the host and

>>>>> the guest, so I'm confident you can work with that.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Charlie.

>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>>

>>>>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:91D4EF38-0F27-4E76-8362-9FA4D8B8E351@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>I spent hours on the phone with HP and my agency's IT department

>>>>>>looking for a workaround. No one offered running the Cisco VPN client

>>>>>>in a virtual machine. If they had, and if I had confidence in how to

>>>>>>do that, I would have tried it before sacrificing a gig of RAM and

>>>>>>installing the 32-bit Vista.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I suspect that going back to the 64-bit Vista to then attempt to:

>>>>>> a) install the 32-bit client (It wouldn't install on Vista 64)

>>>>>> b) run it in VM mode

>>>>>> would be a significant undertaking with no guarantee that it will

>>>>>> work.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>>>>> message news:F2926BAD-B696-47AB-A0D5-C686CDB7B266@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> yes, we need the Cisco's and Adobe's and others to get with the

>>>>>>> program.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> That being said, you might have been able to work around the problem

>>>>>>> by running the Cisco VPN client in a virtual machine, running Vista

>>>>>>> (or XP) 32-bit in the VM.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Charlie.

>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "VistaNewbie" <wpla@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:09FE102D-0FA0-43DF-B39F-A69799471C0B@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>I bought an HP Notebook to replace an old desktop that was running

>>>>>>>>Windows XP Pro. The notebook was configured with:

>>>>>>>> a.. Vista Home Premium (64-bit) SP1

>>>>>>>> b.. Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 GHz

>>>>>>>> c.. 4.00 GB RAM

>>>>>>>> To my dismay, I have discovered that the VPN client that my

>>>>>>>> government agency requires to connect to my office network will not

>>>>>>>> install on the notebook. The client is a 32-bit program and my IT

>>>>>>>> department does not provide a 64-bit client. So my new notebook

>>>>>>>> was rendered useless as a computer to telework with.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I configured it as a 64-bit Vista OS because HP sales told me it

>>>>>>>> was needed in order to be able to use the 4 GB of RAM. With memory

>>>>>>>> becoming more affordable, it seems to me that more purchasers of

>>>>>>>> new PCs will be taking advantage of the 4+ RAM options and

>>>>>>>> hopefully companies like Cisco will see fit to release 64-bit

>>>>>>>> versions of their programs.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I have replaced the OS with a 32-bit Vista Home Premium and

>>>>>>>> installed the VPN client. The tradeoff: loss of about a gigabyte

>>>>>>>> of RAM for the ability to use my notebook to do my job.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

July 3, 2008

Re: 64-bit Cisco VPN Client

Yup, what I'd expect. Thanks for the confirmation.

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message

news:ux$nxGT3IHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>I run both Cisco and CheckPoint VPN clients in a VM running Win2000, and

>they both work very well.

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:F07AF527-4424-4821-BD74-B6534EEC955A@microsoft.com...

>> No, they probably didn't. I have no way of knowing if it would work, but

>> I can't think of a single reason why not. It doesn't depend on any

>> hardware that's not available in the VM. It will connect the VM to your

>> VPN, not the host, but you can communicate between the host and the

>> guest, so I'm confident you can work with that.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.