Failed disk

[Guest Richard]

Hi

 

I just had a Raid 1 failure for one of the disks. Is it difficult to change

the disk? What are the steps involved? Or should I get a professional for

this task?

 

I have the urge to try it out but afraid I might lose all the data.

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice.

Richard

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: Failed disk

 

Hello Richard,

 

Please describe more how your hardware is and is it a software RAID or with

a RAID controller on the server?

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> Hi

>

> I just had a Raid 1 failure for one of the disks. Is it difficult to

> change the disk? What are the steps involved? Or should I get a

> professional for this task?

>

> I have the urge to try it out but afraid I might lose all the data.

>

> Many thanks in advance for any advice.

> Richard

[Guest Richard]

Re: Failed disk

 

Hi Meinolf

 

Its a hardware, dell power edge. I was thinking if I just open the raid

hardware, take out the degraded disk, put in a new one, reboot, all will be

back to normal?

 

Richard

 

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

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> Hello Richard,

>

> Please describe more how your hardware is and is it a software RAID or

> with a RAID controller on the server?

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

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> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>

>> Hi

>>

>> I just had a Raid 1 failure for one of the disks. Is it difficult to

>> change the disk? What are the steps involved? Or should I get a

>> professional for this task?

>>

>> I have the urge to try it out but afraid I might lose all the data.

>>

>> Many thanks in advance for any advice.

>> Richard

>

>

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: Failed disk

 

Hello Richard,

 

Well, we use HP servers also with hardware controller and if one disk is

broken, we just do it the way you describe in the running server, because

they are hot swappable. Pull out the broken one and insert the new, then

replication starts automatically. Because this can slow down the system,

we do steps like this mostly at the end of a day so that users are not involved

so much.

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> Hi Meinolf

>

> Its a hardware, dell power edge. I was thinking if I just open the

> raid hardware, take out the degraded disk, put in a new one, reboot,

> all will be back to normal?

>

> Richard

>

> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

> news:ff16fb66a36708cab1763d80c6c4@msnews.microsoft.com...

>

>> Hello Richard,

>>

>> Please describe more how your hardware is and is it a software RAID

>> or with a RAID controller on the server?

>>

>> Best regards

>>

>> Meinolf Weber

>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>> confers no rights.

>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>> Hi

>>>

>>> I just had a Raid 1 failure for one of the disks. Is it difficult to

>>> change the disk? What are the steps involved? Or should I get a

>>> professional for this task?

>>>

>>> I have the urge to try it out but afraid I might lose all the data.

>>>

>>> Many thanks in advance for any advice.

>>> Richard

[Guest Richard]

Re: Failed disk

 

Hello Meinolf

 

I read somewhere that we should not shut down the server and change the disk

while its running. Should we do it this way?

 

Thanks again

Richard

 

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

news:ff16fb66a36838cab17e73caf6d4@msnews.microsoft.com...

> Hello Richard,

>

> Well, we use HP servers also with hardware controller and if one disk is

> broken, we just do it the way you describe in the running server, because

> they are hot swappable. Pull out the broken one and insert the new, then

> replication starts automatically. Because this can slow down the system,

> we do steps like this mostly at the end of a day so that users are not

> involved so much.

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>

>> Hi Meinolf

>>

>> Its a hardware, dell power edge. I was thinking if I just open the

>> raid hardware, take out the degraded disk, put in a new one, reboot,

>> all will be back to normal?

>>

>> Richard

>>

>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

>> news:ff16fb66a36708cab1763d80c6c4@msnews.microsoft.com...

>>

>>> Hello Richard,

>>>

>>> Please describe more how your hardware is and is it a software RAID

>>> or with a RAID controller on the server?

>>>

>>> Best regards

>>>

>>> Meinolf Weber

>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>>> confers no rights.

>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>>> Hi

>>>>

>>>> I just had a Raid 1 failure for one of the disks. Is it difficult to

>>>> change the disk? What are the steps involved? Or should I get a

>>>> professional for this task?

>>>>

>>>> I have the urge to try it out but afraid I might lose all the data.

>>>>

>>>> Many thanks in advance for any advice.

>>>> Richard

>

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: Failed disk

 

Try booting with a fault tolerant boot floppy (a fancy name for a floppy

boot disk ;-) ). You will need an ARC path in the boot,ini file that

will point to the second hard disk. http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ntboot/

Note that on Windows 2000 the default location for the Windows

installation is the WINNT folder, so the sample boot.ini file on Bart's

site will have to be adjusted accordingly, example:

 

[boot loader]

timeout=-1

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="First harddisk, first

partition" /fastdetect

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Second harddisk, first

partition" /fastdetect

 

 

If you can boot with the floppy you can backup your data then break the

mirror and replace the failed disk.

 

John

 

Richard wrote:

> Hi

>

> I just had a Raid 1 failure for one of the disks. Is it difficult to change

> the disk? What are the steps involved? Or should I get a professional for

> this task?

>

> I have the urge to try it out but afraid I might lose all the data.

>

> Many thanks in advance for any advice.

> Richard

>

>

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: Failed disk

 

Hello Richard,

 

I don't know the way Dell handles this, maybe use Dell support for this.

But do NOT remove the disk, if it is not hot swappable.

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> Hello Meinolf

>

> I read somewhere that we should not shut down the server and change

> the disk while its running. Should we do it this way?

>

> Thanks again

> Richard

> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

> news:ff16fb66a36838cab17e73caf6d4@msnews.microsoft.com...

>

>> Hello Richard,

>>

>> Well, we use HP servers also with hardware controller and if one disk

>> is broken, we just do it the way you describe in the running server,

>> because they are hot swappable. Pull out the broken one and insert

>> the new, then replication starts automatically. Because this can slow

>> down the system, we do steps like this mostly at the end of a day so

>> that users are not involved so much.

>>

>> Best regards

>>

>> Meinolf Weber

>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>> confers no rights.

>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>> Hi Meinolf

>>>

>>> Its a hardware, dell power edge. I was thinking if I just open the

>>> raid hardware, take out the degraded disk, put in a new one, reboot,

>>> all will be back to normal?

>>>

>>> Richard

>>>

>>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

>>> news:ff16fb66a36708cab1763d80c6c4@msnews.microsoft.com...

>>>

>>>> Hello Richard,

>>>>

>>>> Please describe more how your hardware is and is it a software RAID

>>>> or with a RAID controller on the server?

>>>>

>>>> Best regards

>>>>

>>>> Meinolf Weber

>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

>>>> and

>>>> confers no rights.

>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>>>> Hi

>>>>>

>>>>> I just had a Raid 1 failure for one of the disks. Is it difficult

>>>>> to change the disk? What are the steps involved? Or should I get a

>>>>> professional for this task?

>>>>>

>>>>> I have the urge to try it out but afraid I might lose all the

>>>>> data.

>>>>>

>>>>> Many thanks in advance for any advice.

>>>>> Richard

[Guest Richard]

Re: Failed disk

 

Hi Meinolf

 

I think I will take your advice, get Dell support for this.

 

Many thanks

Richard

 

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

news:ff16fb66a369a8cab18143afdf34@msnews.microsoft.com...

> Hello Richard,

>

> I don't know the way Dell handles this, maybe use Dell support for this.

> But do NOT remove the disk, if it is not hot swappable.

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>

>> Hello Meinolf

>>

>> I read somewhere that we should not shut down the server and change

>> the disk while its running. Should we do it this way?

>>

>> Thanks again

>> Richard

>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

>> news:ff16fb66a36838cab17e73caf6d4@msnews.microsoft.com...

>>

>>> Hello Richard,

>>>

>>> Well, we use HP servers also with hardware controller and if one disk

>>> is broken, we just do it the way you describe in the running server,

>>> because they are hot swappable. Pull out the broken one and insert

>>> the new, then replication starts automatically. Because this can slow

>>> down the system, we do steps like this mostly at the end of a day so

>>> that users are not involved so much.

>>>

>>> Best regards

>>>

>>> Meinolf Weber

>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>>> confers no rights.

>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>>> Hi Meinolf

>>>>

>>>> Its a hardware, dell power edge. I was thinking if I just open the

>>>> raid hardware, take out the degraded disk, put in a new one, reboot,

>>>> all will be back to normal?

>>>>

>>>> Richard

>>>>

>>>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

>>>> news:ff16fb66a36708cab1763d80c6c4@msnews.microsoft.com...

>>>>

>>>>> Hello Richard,

>>>>>

>>>>> Please describe more how your hardware is and is it a software RAID

>>>>> or with a RAID controller on the server?

>>>>>

>>>>> Best regards

>>>>>

>>>>> Meinolf Weber

>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

>>>>> and

>>>>> confers no rights.

>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>>>>> Hi

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I just had a Raid 1 failure for one of the disks. Is it difficult

>>>>>> to change the disk? What are the steps involved? Or should I get a

>>>>>> professional for this task?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have the urge to try it out but afraid I might lose all the

>>>>>> data.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Many thanks in advance for any advice.

>>>>>> Richard

>

>

[Guest Richard]

Re: Failed disk

 

Hi John John

 

Many thanks for your reply but I think your way is too hot for me to handle.

I think I will let Dell support handle it this time.

 

Regards

Richard

 

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

news:u7XAOh14IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Try booting with a fault tolerant boot floppy (a fancy name for a floppy

> boot disk ;-) ). You will need an ARC path in the boot,ini file that will

> point to the second hard disk. http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ntboot/ Note

> that on Windows 2000 the default location for the Windows installation is

> the WINNT folder, so the sample boot.ini file on Bart's site will have to

> be adjusted accordingly, example:

>

> [boot loader]

> timeout=-1

> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT

> [operating systems]

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="First harddisk, first

> partition" /fastdetect

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Second harddisk, first

> partition" /fastdetect

>

>

> If you can boot with the floppy you can backup your data then break the

> mirror and replace the failed disk.

>

> John

>

> Richard wrote:

>

>> Hi

>>

>> I just had a Raid 1 failure for one of the disks. Is it difficult to

>> change the disk? What are the steps involved? Or should I get a

>> professional for this task?

>>

>> I have the urge to try it out but afraid I might lose all the data.

>>

>> Many thanks in advance for any advice.

>> Richard

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: Failed disk

 

If you feel uncomfortable doing it yourself that is the wisest thing to do.

 

John

 

Richard wrote:

> Hi John John

>

> Many thanks for your reply but I think your way is too hot for me to handle.

> I think I will let Dell support handle it this time.

>

> Regards

> Richard

>

> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

> news:u7XAOh14IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>>Try booting with a fault tolerant boot floppy (a fancy name for a floppy

>>boot disk ;-) ). You will need an ARC path in the boot,ini file that will

>>point to the second hard disk. http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ntboot/ Note

>>that on Windows 2000 the default location for the Windows installation is

>>the WINNT folder, so the sample boot.ini file on Bart's site will have to

>>be adjusted accordingly, example:

>>

>>[boot loader]

>>timeout=-1

>>default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT

>>[operating systems]

>>multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="First harddisk, first

>>partition" /fastdetect

>>multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Second harddisk, first

>>partition" /fastdetect

>>

>>

>>If you can boot with the floppy you can backup your data then break the

>>mirror and replace the failed disk.

>>

>>John

>>

>>Richard wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Hi

>>>

>>>I just had a Raid 1 failure for one of the disks. Is it difficult to

>>>change the disk? What are the steps involved? Or should I get a

>>>professional for this task?

>>>

>>>I have the urge to try it out but afraid I might lose all the data.

>>>

>>>Many thanks in advance for any advice.

>>>Richard

>>

>

>