Guest Timothy Daniels Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Re: Help! N/working XP64 & Vista 32bit I clicked on Start/Settings/Control Panel/Network Connections/Local Area Connection/ Properties, and the GUI says "This connection uses the following items:", and it lists Client for Microsoft Networks, File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks, and Internet Protocol [TCP/IP]", and all 3 items are checked. Is that what you mean? Regarding the quote from Microsoft, note that it says "The network map on a computer running Windows Vista shows a graphical view...", and "The LLTD responder must be installed on a computer running Windows XP before it can be detected and appear on the network map." If "network map" means Vista's "Network" list, then Microsoft is saying that XP needs LLTD. But if "network map" means the "graphical view", than XP doesn't need LLTD. Maybe my XP Pro/SP3 already has LLTD. But I sure don't remember downloading and installing it. *TimDaniels* "Bobby Johnson" wrote: > Have you checked in the network adapter's properties to see if LLTD isn't > installed? > If your's is working without LLTD then you are just about the only person in > the world. > When I first encountered this and I did a search via Google there were > literally hundreds > of posts about the problem and it took me a while to find the solution. > Without LLTD > installed on my XP 32-bit and XP x64 computers they would not show up in the > Vista > Network places. > > This is a direct quote from Microsoft: > > Overview > This package contains the Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) responder. The > network map on a computer running Windows Vista shows a graphical view of the > computers and devices on your network and how they are connected by using the > LLTD protocol. The LLTD responder must be installed on a computer running > Windows XP before it can be detected and appear on the network map. After you > install this item, you may have to restart your computer. > > I surely hope knows a little bit about how Windows works! > > > Timothy Daniels wrote: > I came across this thread a couple months later than its > posting, but I'd like to register that XP running LLTD seems > not to be necessary for XP to be seen by Vista. I have a > Vista 32-bit Business Edition with SP1 and an XP Pro Edition > with SP3, and they see each other's Shared (XP) and Public > (Vista) files just fine without LLTD. XP sees Vista in My > Network Places, and Vista sees XP in Network. LLTD seems > just necessary to draw the pretty pictures of the connected > machines. > > *TimDaniels* > > "Bobby Johnson" wrote: >> One of the problems is that for Vista to see XP is the XP needs LLTD. >> There is a download for XP 32-bit, but I have yet to find one for XP x64. >> Without the LLTD Vista will never see the XP machine. >
Guest Jane C Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Re: Help! N/working XP64 & Vista 32bit "Timothy Daniels" <NoSpam@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message news:O$xr%230INJHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I clicked on Start/Settings/Control Panel/Network Connections/Local Area >Connection/ > Properties, and the GUI says "This connection uses the following items:", > and it lists > Client for Microsoft Networks, File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft > Networks, > and Internet Protocol [TCP/IP]", and all 3 items are checked. Is that > what you > mean? > > Regarding the quote from Microsoft, note that it says "The network map on > a > computer running Windows Vista shows a graphical view...", and "The LLTD > responder must be installed on a computer running Windows XP before it can > be > detected and appear on the network map." If "network map" means Vista's > "Network" list, then Microsoft is saying that XP needs LLTD. But if > "network > map" means the "graphical view", than XP doesn't need LLTD. Maybe my > XP Pro/SP3 already has LLTD. But I sure don't remember downloading and > installing it. > > *TimDaniels* > Tim, Yes, the "network map" referred to in Vista that requires the LLTD responder for the XP machines is that graphical map that you get when you click on the "View full map" in Network and Sharing Centre. It does not refer to what you see if you open plain old "Network" (old My Network Places as it used to be in XP). FWIW, I never bother with the responder in XP - all my XP installs show up in Network and can be browsed quite happily :) -- Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-) Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-) MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Guest Timothy Daniels Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Re: Help! N/working XP64 & Vista 32bit "Jane C" wrote: > "Timothy Daniels" wrote: >> I clicked on Start/Settings/Control Panel/Network Connections/ >> Local Area Connection/Properties, and the GUI says "This >> connection uses the following items:", and it lists Client for >> Microsoft Networks, File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks, and >> Internet Protocol [TCP/IP]", and all 3 items >> are checked. Is that what you mean? >> >> Regarding the quote from Microsoft, note that it says "The >> network map on a computer running Windows Vista shows >> a graphical view...", and "The LLTD responder must be installed >> on a computer running Windows XP before it can be detected >> and appear on the network map." If "network map" means Vista's >> "Network" list, then Microsoft is saying that XP needs LLTD. >> But if "network map" means the "graphical view", than XP doesn't >> need LLTD. Maybe my XP Pro/SP3 already has LLTD. But I >> sure don't remember downloading and installing it. >> >> *TimDaniels* >> > > Tim, > > Yes, the "network map" referred to in Vista that requires the > LLTD responder for the XP machines is that graphical map > that you get when you click on the "View full map" in Network > and Sharing Centre. It does not refer to what you see if you > open plain old "Network" (old My Network Places as it used > to be in XP). > > FWIW, I never bother with the responder in XP - all my XP > installs show up in Network and can be browsed quite happily :) > > -- > Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-) > Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-) > MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Thanks for clarifying that, Jane. Although I had spent days struggling to get XP to show up in Vista's Network folder, and I was pretty sure that I hadn't installed LLTD because it wasn't clear that it was needed for anything but the pretty diagram. *TimDaniels*
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