How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

[Guest A usenet user]

In the "Windows firewall" settings, the General tab, I have the

firewall turned Off.

 

In the security center, however, windows firewall is always On.

 

How do I really turn windows firewall off?

[Guest DL]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

Security Centre indicates 'Firewall......on/off' - nothing about 'windows

firewall'

 

Perhaps you have a third party firewall installed?

If not & you really have no firewall that sounds like an exceptionally dumb

move

 

"A usenet user" <reply.to.newsgroup@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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> In the "Windows firewall" settings, the General tab, I have the

> firewall turned Off.

>

> In the security center, however, windows firewall is always On.

>

> How do I really turn windows firewall off?

[Guest A usenet user]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>Security Centre indicates 'Firewall......on/off' - nothing about 'windows

>firewall'

 

It's "Windows Security Center"

>Perhaps you have a third party firewall installed?

 

I have other protection and I tire of windows security asking me

if I really want to run a program when I double click on it in a

"folder".

>If not & you really have no firewall that sounds like an exceptionally dumb

>move

 

I have other protection.

>

>"A usenet user" <reply.to.newsgroup@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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>> In the "Windows firewall" settings, the General tab, I have the

>> firewall turned Off.

>>

>> In the security center, however, windows firewall is always On.

>>

>> How do I really turn windows firewall off?

>

[Guest DL]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

>

> It's "Windows Security Center"

>

Thats immaterial, if you have a third party firewall configured Security

Centre will show Firewall on.

 

 

>>Perhaps you have a third party firewall installed?

>

> I have other protection and I tire of windows security asking me

> if I really want to run a program when I double click on it in a

> "folder".

>

>>If not & you really have no firewall that sounds like an exceptionally

>>dumb

>>move

>

> I have other protection.

>>

>>"A usenet user" <reply.to.newsgroup@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

>>news:efgb945gs12kqg0oms235tdk7n12n2r6jo@4ax.com...

>>> In the "Windows firewall" settings, the General tab, I have the

>>> firewall turned Off.

>>>

>>> In the security center, however, windows firewall is always On.

>>>

>>> How do I really turn windows firewall off?

>>

[Guest A usenet user]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>

>> It's "Windows Security Center"

>>

>Thats immaterial, if you have a third party firewall configured Security

>Centre will show Firewall on.

 

But it's the *windows* firewall that intercepts run requests -

and it is supposedly turned off. I'll bet that MS never tested

turning it off so it's probably a bug.

[Guest DL]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

What is your 'other' protection you previously mentioned.

 

"A usenet user" <reply.to.newsgroup@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>

>>>

>>> It's "Windows Security Center"

>>>

>>Thats immaterial, if you have a third party firewall configured Security

>>Centre will show Firewall on.

>

> But it's the *windows* firewall that intercepts run requests -

> and it is supposedly turned off. I'll bet that MS never tested

> turning it off so it's probably a bug.

[Guest A usenet user]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>What is your 'other' protection you previously mentioned.

 

Router, antivirus, proxomitron (HTTP front end)

 

>"A usenet user" <reply.to.newsgroup@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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>> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>

>>>>

>>>> It's "Windows Security Center"

>>>>

>>>Thats immaterial, if you have a third party firewall configured Security

>>>Centre will show Firewall on.

>>

>> But it's the *windows* firewall that intercepts run requests -

>> and it is supposedly turned off. I'll bet that MS never tested

>> turning it off so it's probably a bug.

>

[Guest DL]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

A router does not supply sufficient protection

niether is antivirus or proxomitron a firewall protection.

Windows in its latest update incarnation is designed to turn on the firewall

by default, unless you have a third party firewall, which you dont.

When you get the the msg about running a program from the Firewall msg

centre, you tick allow & remember.

 

 

"A usenet user" <reply.to.newsgroup@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>

>>What is your 'other' protection you previously mentioned.

>

> Router, antivirus, proxomitron (HTTP front end)

>

>

>>"A usenet user" <reply.to.newsgroup@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

>>news:3agd94laidfuh8kn10fqqep1sl4l65a05o@4ax.com...

>>> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> It's "Windows Security Center"

>>>>>

>>>>Thats immaterial, if you have a third party firewall configured Security

>>>>Centre will show Firewall on.

>>>

>>> But it's the *windows* firewall that intercepts run requests -

>>> and it is supposedly turned off. I'll bet that MS never tested

>>> turning it off so it's probably a bug.

>>

[Guest JM]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

A router hides all your computers behind one IP address, therefore it is

impossible for hackers to get in.

 

DL wrote:

> A router does not supply sufficient protection

> niether is antivirus or proxomitron a firewall protection.

> Windows in its latest update incarnation is designed to turn on the firewall

> by default, unless you have a third party firewall, which you dont.

> When you get the the msg about running a program from the Firewall msg

> centre, you tick allow & remember.

>

>

> "A usenet user" <reply.to.newsgroup@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

> news:f9qm94dbeckc2cpbstta3f77pk7gjum90g@4ax.com...

>> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>

>>> What is your 'other' protection you previously mentioned.

>> Router, antivirus, proxomitron (HTTP front end)

>>

>>

>>> "A usenet user" <reply.to.newsgroup@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

>>> news:3agd94laidfuh8kn10fqqep1sl4l65a05o@4ax.com...

>>>> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>> It's "Windows Security Center"

>>>>>>

>>>>> Thats immaterial, if you have a third party firewall configured Security

>>>>> Centre will show Firewall on.

>>>> But it's the *windows* firewall that intercepts run requests -

>>>> and it is supposedly turned off. I'll bet that MS never tested

>>>> turning it off so it's probably a bug.

>

>

[Guest h.stroph]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

"JM" <1@2.3> wrote in message

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> A router hides all your computers behind one IP address, therefore it is

> impossible for hackers to get in.

 

Dream on ... and not all routers use NAT (Network Address Translation).

[Guest A usenet user]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

"h.stroph" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>"JM" <1@2.3> wrote in message

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>

>> A router hides all your computers behind one IP address, therefore it is

>> impossible for hackers to get in.

>

>Dream on ... and not all routers use NAT (Network Address Translation).

>

 

All of which is irrelevant to the original issue/question, which

was exactly the reason I was hesitant to provide details. I'll

go ask in the winxp group.

..

[Guest DL]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

Quite frankly you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think your

protection is adequate, without a Firewall.

A correctly configured Firewall would not constantly require you to 'allow'

programs to run.

Any winxp security update will turn the winfirewall back on unless you have

a third party firewall installed.

 

"A usenet user" <reply.to.newsgroup@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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> "h.stroph" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>

>>"JM" <1@2.3> wrote in message

>>news:O4AgYmX%23IHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>

>>> A router hides all your computers behind one IP address, therefore it is

>>> impossible for hackers to get in.

>>

>>Dream on ... and not all routers use NAT (Network Address Translation).

>>

>

> All of which is irrelevant to the original issue/question, which

> was exactly the reason I was hesitant to provide details. I'll

> go ask in the winxp group.

> .

[Guest Andrew Morton]

Re: How to *really* turn off windows firewall in XP

 

A usenet user wrote:

> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>

>> Security Centre indicates 'Firewall......on/off' - nothing about

>> 'windows firewall'

>

> It's "Windows Security Center"

 

Then, unless I am mistaken, your computer is infected - see about half-way

down on

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/22/anatomy_of_a_hack/page6.html

 

The real one appears to be called just "Security Center":

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wscintro.mspx

 

Andrew