Guest Matt Schneyer Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 I have Vista ultimate 64 installed finally and functional and rock solid. To do that I had to scrap a Nvidia 7600 GS for an ATI card. the ATI card is a discard from a friend and not as good as I would like. Are there any ideas for a AGP card that only uses one slot. All I lost going from xp pro 32 to Vista ultimate 64 were 2 scanners Nikon does not support a film scanner in 64 bit, and Microtek said the same thing. For 5700 scanner Solved by moving to another computer that is networked. I did try VMware and was able to get 5700 to network but for the same grief moving to another computer is just as easy. My printers Epson 3800 has all drivers and interface is faster in vista, my laser Konica Minolta also has drivers and is not a problem, smaller printers Epson 880 is solved do work in vista computer and networked. and print from other computer. This group is great find me an AGP one slot video card. Thanks
Guest Matt Schneyer Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 With a video rating of 4, low score, I would like to update the ATI card that I have installed, system is rock solid but it does not allow all that I am paying for in Vista ultimate. And yes I like to be at edge. I have room for a single card, and have not had luck with Nvidia in vista. I know nothing about ATI everything else I have are Nvidia. So What cards are you using with success in Vista. Thanks "Matt Schneyer" <matt@xyz.net> wrote in message news:%23bsMyWu$IHA.4064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I have Vista ultimate 64 installed finally and functional and rock solid. >To do that I had to scrap a Nvidia 7600 GS for an ATI card. the ATI >card is a discard from a friend and not as good as I would like. Are there >any ideas for a AGP card that only uses one slot. All I lost going from xp >pro 32 to Vista ultimate 64 were 2 scanners Nikon does not support a film >scanner in 64 bit, and Microtek said the same thing. For 5700 scanner >Solved by moving to another computer that is networked. I did try VMware >and was able to get 5700 to network but for the same grief moving to >another computer is just as easy. My printers Epson 3800 has all drivers >and interface is faster in vista, my laser Konica Minolta also has drivers >and is not a problem, smaller printers Epson 880 is solved do work in >vista computer and networked. and print from other computer. This group >is great find me an AGP one slot video card. Thanks >
Guest Charlie Russel - MVP Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 A score of 4 isn't all that bad, and there will be limits on what you can reasonably expect with AGP. That being said, my main workstation is still an AGP, and it's got an ATI 1650 card in it. Not super fast, but a bit better than 4 if I remember correctly (can't get to it right now to check.) That machine tops out at a rating of 4, but it's the RAM speed that has it limited, not the video card. If you look at the currently shipping AGP cards that are ATI based, you'll see that the current top of the line are the 3850 cards. My pick of those would probably be the Sapphire. They'll all tend to run warm, you may want to add a cooler, especially if you have a system that runs a bit warm already. -- Charlie. "Matt Schneyer" <matt@xyz.net> wrote in message news:uWPBLj0$IHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > With a video rating of 4, low score, I would like to update the ATI card > that I have installed, system is rock solid but it does not allow all that > I am paying for in Vista ultimate. And yes I like to be at edge. I have > room for a single card, and have not had luck with Nvidia in vista. I > know nothing about ATI everything else I have are Nvidia. So What cards > are you using with success in Vista. Thanks > "Matt Schneyer" <matt@xyz.net> wrote in message > news:%23bsMyWu$IHA.4064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>I have Vista ultimate 64 installed finally and functional and rock solid. >>To do that I had to scrap a Nvidia 7600 GS for an ATI card. the ATI >>card is a discard from a friend and not as good as I would like. Are there >>any ideas for a AGP card that only uses one slot. All I lost going from xp >>pro 32 to Vista ultimate 64 were 2 scanners Nikon does not support a film >>scanner in 64 bit, and Microtek said the same thing. For 5700 scanner >>Solved by moving to another computer that is networked. I did try VMware >>and was able to get 5700 to network but for the same grief moving to >>another computer is just as easy. My printers Epson 3800 has all drivers >>and interface is faster in vista, my laser Konica Minolta also has >>drivers and is not a problem, smaller printers Epson 880 is solved do >>work in vista computer and networked. and print from other computer. >>This group is great find me an AGP one slot video card. Thanks >> > >
Guest Matt Schneyer Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 Thanks just ordered the Sapphire 3850 from New Egg probably a week to Alaska I will keep group posted. My next low score are the opteron processors at 4.7 after the video card so that is where I stop. ram and hard disk are 5.9 so it was worth the try. It really does not matter if I can not stay stable but system was started back when 64 bit was just coming out. Betas of xp 64 and then Vista. I was right with what I started with. Sort of a completion thing. If my only problems are the scanners not internal stuff in the computers I had to go for it. Thanks again. I will post in a week or when card is installed. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:%23%23cvfT6$IHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >A score of 4 isn't all that bad, and there will be limits on what you can >reasonably expect with AGP. > > That being said, my main workstation is still an AGP, and it's got an ATI > 1650 card in it. Not super fast, but a bit better than 4 if I remember > correctly (can't get to it right now to check.) That machine tops out at a > rating of 4, but it's the RAM speed that has it limited, not the video > card. > > If you look at the currently shipping AGP cards that are ATI based, you'll > see that the current top of the line are the 3850 cards. My pick of those > would probably be the Sapphire. They'll all tend to run warm, you may want > to add a cooler, especially if you have a system that runs a bit warm > already. > > -- > Charlie. > "Matt Schneyer" <matt@xyz.net> wrote in message > news:uWPBLj0$IHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> With a video rating of 4, low score, I would like to update the ATI >> card that I have installed, system is rock solid but it does not allow >> all that I am paying for in Vista ultimate. And yes I like to be at edge. >> I have room for a single card, and have not had luck with Nvidia in >> vista. I know nothing about ATI everything else I have are Nvidia. So >> What cards are you using with success in Vista. Thanks >> "Matt Schneyer" <matt@xyz.net> wrote in message >> news:%23bsMyWu$IHA.4064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>I have Vista ultimate 64 installed finally and functional and rock solid. >>>To do that I had to scrap a Nvidia 7600 GS for an ATI card. the ATI >>>card is a discard from a friend and not as good as I would like. Are >>>there any ideas for a AGP card that only uses one slot. All I lost going >>>from xp pro 32 to Vista ultimate 64 were 2 scanners Nikon does not >>>support a film scanner in 64 bit, and Microtek said the same thing. For >>>5700 scanner Solved by moving to another computer that is networked. I >>>did try VMware and was able to get 5700 to network but for the same >>>grief moving to another computer is just as easy. My printers Epson 3800 >>>has all drivers and interface is faster in vista, my laser Konica >>>Minolta also has drivers and is not a problem, smaller printers Epson 880 >>>is solved do work in vista computer and networked. and print from >>>other computer. This group is great find me an AGP one slot video >>>card. Thanks >>> >> >> >
Guest Jim Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 I noticed you mentioned replacing your early Opteron chips. I have dual Opteron 270s in my Tyan machine, and I could now replace them with dual Opteron 290s for approximately what I paid for a *single* Opteron 270 when I bought them. I do not think it would gain me much speed, but I have always wondered? I do not do a lot of complex math, and I already have an nVidia 8800 GTX video card, but faster processors would be nice. I am stuck with buffered PC 2700 memory because it is a server board, which might make replacing the processors a waste of money. Thank you
Guest Matt Schneyer Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 not replacing Opterons my problem has been with the video card. Opterons are solid 244 slow but very steady. Who knows after the video thing. The low part will be the opterons you are correct replacing them now verses when I started. You can get opterons in the 800 series for what I originally paid for the single core opterons. My board will accept quad core with the bios in it now so First things first. I need to see where the new video card goes. "Jim" <jmegas@cal.berkeley.edu> wrote in message news:80279330-b5fa-4755-89f7-660f6558c91c@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... > > I noticed you mentioned replacing your early Opteron chips. I have > dual Opteron 270s in my Tyan machine, and I could now replace them > with dual Opteron 290s for approximately what I paid for a *single* > Opteron 270 when I bought them. I do not think it would gain me much > speed, but I have always wondered? I do not do a lot of complex math, > and I already have an nVidia 8800 GTX video card, but faster > processors would be nice. I am stuck with buffered PC 2700 memory > because it is a server board, which might make replacing the > processors a waste of money. > > Thank you
Guest Charlie Russel - MVP Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 You'll see not nearly enough difference going from 270's to 290's. Sorry. -- Charlie. "Jim" <jmegas@cal.berkeley.edu> wrote in message news:80279330-b5fa-4755-89f7-660f6558c91c@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... > > I noticed you mentioned replacing your early Opteron chips. I have > dual Opteron 270s in my Tyan machine, and I could now replace them > with dual Opteron 290s for approximately what I paid for a *single* > Opteron 270 when I bought them. I do not think it would gain me much > speed, but I have always wondered? I do not do a lot of complex math, > and I already have an nVidia 8800 GTX video card, but faster > processors would be nice. I am stuck with buffered PC 2700 memory > because it is a server board, which might make replacing the > processors a waste of money. > > Thank you
Guest Matt Schneyer Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 I am changing video cards. I should see improvement from a 1900 series to a 3850 series. That will max out where I can go with current available cards for agp. I will use the slower card if system is not stable. The memory on my Tyan board is not the slow point also 2700. all mine is ecc and registered I didn't know better. got 5.9 rating whatever that means. Where would someone expect to see a jump from dual Opteron 244 single core to what. Again if system looses stability it is not a go. I am not a gamer but into photography and starting into video but casually at that. Photography is where my interests are. Network printers are also the thing to do. Epson 3800 is great on network and a Konica Minolta 5440 is also networked. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:%23P5zGbPAJHA.4852@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > You'll see not nearly enough difference going from 270's to 290's. Sorry. > > -- > Charlie. > "Jim" <jmegas@cal.berkeley.edu> wrote in message > news:80279330-b5fa-4755-89f7-660f6558c91c@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... >> >> I noticed you mentioned replacing your early Opteron chips. I have >> dual Opteron 270s in my Tyan machine, and I could now replace them >> with dual Opteron 290s for approximately what I paid for a *single* >> Opteron 270 when I bought them. I do not think it would gain me much >> speed, but I have always wondered? I do not do a lot of complex math, >> and I already have an nVidia 8800 GTX video card, but faster >> processors would be nice. I am stuck with buffered PC 2700 memory >> because it is a server board, which might make replacing the >> processors a waste of money. >> >> Thank you >
Guest Matt Schneyer Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 Just updated card/ new card Sapphire 3850 video rating is 5.9 slow spot is now processors at 4.7 and memory at 4.7 I have maxed the system out. I guess I hold where I am I will test to see how stable system is needed hotpatch 411 but think it is ok. Thanks for the help "Matt Schneyer" <matt@xyz.net> wrote in message news:O$ifqLRAJHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >I am changing video cards. I should see improvement from a 1900 series to a >3850 series. That will max out where I can go with current available cards >for agp. I will use the slower card if system is not stable. > The memory on my Tyan board is not the slow point also 2700. all mine is > ecc and registered I didn't know better. got 5.9 rating whatever that > means. > Where would someone expect to see a jump from dual Opteron 244 single > core to what. Again if system looses stability it is not a go. I am not a > gamer but into photography and starting into video but casually at that. > Photography is where my interests are. Network printers are also the thing > to do. Epson 3800 is great on network and a Konica Minolta 5440 is also > networked. > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message > news:%23P5zGbPAJHA.4852@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> You'll see not nearly enough difference going from 270's to 290's. Sorry. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> "Jim" <jmegas@cal.berkeley.edu> wrote in message >> news:80279330-b5fa-4755-89f7-660f6558c91c@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> I noticed you mentioned replacing your early Opteron chips. I have >>> dual Opteron 270s in my Tyan machine, and I could now replace them >>> with dual Opteron 290s for approximately what I paid for a *single* >>> Opteron 270 when I bought them. I do not think it would gain me much >>> speed, but I have always wondered? I do not do a lot of complex math, >>> and I already have an nVidia 8800 GTX video card, but faster >>> processors would be nice. I am stuck with buffered PC 2700 memory >>> because it is a server board, which might make replacing the >>> processors a waste of money. >>> >>> Thank you >> > >
Guest Charlie Russel - MVP Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 Re: What AGP card are you using with vista ultimate 64 Wow, 5.9 on the Video? Now I'm seriously tempted. ;) -- Charlie. "Matt Schneyer" <matt@xyz.net> wrote in message news:%23Oj6w6vAJHA.756@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Just updated card/ new card Sapphire 3850 video rating is 5.9 slow spot > is now processors at 4.7 and memory at 4.7 I have maxed the system out. I > guess I hold where I am I will test to see how stable system is needed > hotpatch 411 but think it is ok. Thanks for the help > "Matt Schneyer" <matt@xyz.net> wrote in message > news:O$ifqLRAJHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>I am changing video cards. I should see improvement from a 1900 series to >>a 3850 series. That will max out where I can go with current available >>cards for agp. I will use the slower card if system is not stable. >> The memory on my Tyan board is not the slow point also 2700. all mine is >> ecc and registered I didn't know better. got 5.9 rating whatever that >> means. >> Where would someone expect to see a jump from dual Opteron 244 single >> core to what. Again if system looses stability it is not a go. I am not >> a gamer but into photography and starting into video but casually at >> that. Photography is where my interests are. Network printers are also >> the thing to do. Epson 3800 is great on network and a Konica Minolta >> 5440 is also networked. >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message >> news:%23P5zGbPAJHA.4852@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> You'll see not nearly enough difference going from 270's to 290's. >>> Sorry. >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie. >>> "Jim" <jmegas@cal.berkeley.edu> wrote in message >>> news:80279330-b5fa-4755-89f7-660f6558c91c@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> I noticed you mentioned replacing your early Opteron chips. I have >>>> dual Opteron 270s in my Tyan machine, and I could now replace them >>>> with dual Opteron 290s for approximately what I paid for a *single* >>>> Opteron 270 when I bought them. I do not think it would gain me much >>>> speed, but I have always wondered? I do not do a lot of complex math, >>>> and I already have an nVidia 8800 GTX video card, but faster >>>> processors would be nice. I am stuck with buffered PC 2700 memory >>>> because it is a server board, which might make replacing the >>>> processors a waste of money. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>> >> >> > >
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