Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

[Guest Peter de B. Harrington]

Hi:

 

I am building a system for numerical computation. I am using a ECS P45T-A

LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and the OCZ 16

GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit. I would like to know in advance will Vista Ultimate

SP1 be installable on this system?

 

The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that prevents

it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of RAM. The

work around is to remove all but 2 GBs and then install, but clearly in this

case that will not be possible. I also would like to imagine that this bug

would have been eliminated with SP1.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Pete

[Guest Paul Montgomery]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

On Aug 15, 12:19 pm, "Peter de B. Harrington"

<peter.harring...@ohio.edu> wrote:

> Hi:

>

> I am building a system for numerical computation.  I am using a ECS P45T-A

> LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and the OCZ 16

> GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit.  I would like to know in advance will Vista Ultimate

> SP1 be installable on this system?

>

> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that prevents

> it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of RAM.  The

> work around is to remove all but 2 GBs and then install, but clearly in this

> case that will not be possible.  I also would like to imagine that this bug

> would have been eliminated with SP1.

 

I don't think so. I've seen tons of posts here telling folks to cut

to 2gigs until the installation is done.

[Guest Dominic Payer]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777 .

The hotfix is included in SP1.

 

 

"Peter de B. Harrington" <peter.harrington@ohio.edu> wrote in message

news:e01yprv$IHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Hi:

>

> I am building a system for numerical computation. I am using a ECS P45T-A

> LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and the OCZ 16

> GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit. I would like to know in advance will Vista Ultimate

> SP1 be installable on this system?

>

> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

> prevents it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of

> RAM. The work around is to remove all but 2 GBs and then install, but

> clearly in this case that will not be possible. I also would like to

> imagine that this bug would have been eliminated with SP1.

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Pete

>

[Guest Mick Murphy]

RE: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919183

 

It is recommended minimum 20G HD, with 15 free for install.

--

Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

 

 

"Peter de B. Harrington" wrote:

> Hi:

>

> I am building a system for numerical computation. I am using a ECS P45T-A

> LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and the OCZ 16

> GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit. I would like to know in advance will Vista Ultimate

> SP1 be installable on this system?

>

> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that prevents

> it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of RAM. The

> work around is to remove all but 2 GBs and then install, but clearly in this

> case that will not be possible. I also would like to imagine that this bug

> would have been eliminated with SP1.

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Pete

>

>

>

[Guest Richard Urban]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

This has "what" to do with the fact that the O/P has 4-4 gig sticks of OCZ

**RAM** installed

(OCZ 16 GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit) and is questioning whether, or not, he has to

remove some of his RAM to install Vista???

 

--

 

Richard Urban

Microsoft MVP

Windows Desktop Experience

 

 

 

"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919183

>

> It is recommended minimum 20G HD, with 15 free for install.

> --

> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

>

>

> "Peter de B. Harrington" wrote:

>

>> Hi:

>>

>> I am building a system for numerical computation. I am using a ECS

>> P45T-A

>> LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and the OCZ

>> 16

>> GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit. I would like to know in advance will Vista

>> Ultimate

>> SP1 be installable on this system?

>>

>> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

>> prevents

>> it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of RAM. The

>> work around is to remove all but 2 GBs and then install, but clearly in

>> this

>> case that will not be possible. I also would like to imagine that this

>> bug

>> would have been eliminated with SP1.

>>

>> Thanks in advance,

>>

>> Pete

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Paul Montgomery]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

On Aug 15, 1:04 pm, "Dominic Payer" <d...@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote:

> Seehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777.

> The hotfix is included in SP1.

 

Prerequisites

To apply this update, you must have Windows Vista installed on a

computer that uses more than 3 GB of RAM.

 

It's gonna be hard to apply the hotfix before Vista is installed.

[Guest Ian D]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

 

"Peter de B. Harrington" <peter.harrington@ohio.edu> wrote in message

news:e01yprv$IHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Hi:

>

> I am building a system for numerical computation. I am using a ECS P45T-A

> LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and the OCZ 16

> GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit. I would like to know in advance will Vista Ultimate

> SP1 be installable on this system?

>

> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

> prevents it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of

> RAM. The work around is to remove all but 2 GBs and then install, but

> clearly in this case that will not be possible. I also would like to

> imagine that this bug would have been eliminated with SP1.

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Pete

>

It doesn't happen with all systems. I've installed 64 bit Ultimate twice on

my system with an Asus P5B Dlx motherboard, with four 1GB OCZ 800MHz

DDR2 DIMMs onboard, without problems. Remember to enable the BIOS

Memory Remap feature for the 64 bit OS.

 

According to MS, this problem is fixed with Vista SP1, so you should be

okay since your Vista is a new SP1 integrated version.

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

Ian,

I do agree with you that it also depends on the hardware.

I had the opportunity of installing Vista x64 SP1 on two PC's with the same

motherboard and 4 gigs of RAM.

The first system would not install with 4 gigs of RAM.

Installation had to be performed with 2 gigs, adding the remaining 2 gigs

once the instalation was done.

On the second system (same brand & model mobo) installation with 4 gigs

presented no problems.

What was the difference? The second mobo had its bios updated to the latest

revision.

Carlos

 

"Ian D" wrote:

>

> "Peter de B. Harrington" <peter.harrington@ohio.edu> wrote in message

> news:e01yprv$IHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > Hi:

> >

> > I am building a system for numerical computation. I am using a ECS P45T-A

> > LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and the OCZ 16

> > GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit. I would like to know in advance will Vista Ultimate

> > SP1 be installable on this system?

> >

> > The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

> > prevents it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of

> > RAM. The work around is to remove all but 2 GBs and then install, but

> > clearly in this case that will not be possible. I also would like to

> > imagine that this bug would have been eliminated with SP1.

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> > Pete

> >

> It doesn't happen with all systems. I've installed 64 bit Ultimate twice on

> my system with an Asus P5B Dlx motherboard, with four 1GB OCZ 800MHz

> DDR2 DIMMs onboard, without problems. Remember to enable the BIOS

> Memory Remap feature for the 64 bit OS.

>

> According to MS, this problem is fixed with Vista SP1, so you should be

> okay since your Vista is a new SP1 integrated version.

>

>

>

[Guest Canuck57]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

 

"Peter de B. Harrington" <peter.harrington@ohio.edu> wrote in message

news:e01yprv$IHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Hi:

>

> I am building a system for numerical computation. I am using a ECS P45T-A

> LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and the OCZ 16

> GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit. I would like to know in advance will Vista Ultimate

> SP1 be installable on this system?

>

> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

> prevents it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of

> RAM. The work around is to remove all but 2 GBs and then install, but

> clearly in this case that will not be possible. I also would like to

> imagine that this bug would have been eliminated with SP1.

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Pete

 

Bet it would run faster in Linux.

 

OCZ RAM in mine, 8GB, works great.

[Guest N Brown]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

I just bought Vista Ultimate 64 Sp1, installed to 4 gigs of ram no problem,

Asus p5k mobo.

 

"Paul Montgomery" <i.m.nonnymous@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Aug 15, 1:04 pm, "Dominic Payer" <d...@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote:

> Seehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777.

> The hotfix is included in SP1.

 

Prerequisites

To apply this update, you must have Windows Vista installed on a

computer that uses more than 3 GB of RAM.

 

It's gonna be hard to apply the hotfix before Vista is installed.

[Guest N Brown]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

Yea nut how long would it take me to get an Audio \Video masterpiece setup,

playing and editing on Linux? Oh

and run Crysis MOHA, Qauke 4, Turok 2008, Etc.

 

"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@nospam.net> wrote in message

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>

> "Peter de B. Harrington" <peter.harrington@ohio.edu> wrote in message

> news:e01yprv$IHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Hi:

>>

>> I am building a system for numerical computation. I am using a ECS

>> P45T-A LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and

>> the OCZ 16 GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit. I would like to know in advance will

>> Vista Ultimate SP1 be installable on this system?

>>

>> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

>> prevents it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of

>> RAM. The work around is to remove all but 2 GBs and then install, but

>> clearly in this case that will not be possible. I also would like to

>> imagine that this bug would have been eliminated with SP1.

>>

>> Thanks in advance,

>>

>> Pete

>

> Bet it would run faster in Linux.

>

> OCZ RAM in mine, 8GB, works great.

>

[Guest Robert McMillan]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

I have installed both both pre sp1 and post sp1 vista business 64 on my

machine with 8gb of ram installed without problems. So it is not always a

problem to install with more ram in the system. Motherboard is a Gigabyte

P35-DS4 is that helps.

 

Robert

 

"Peter de B. Harrington" <peter.harrington@ohio.edu> wrote in message

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> Hi:

>

> I am building a system for numerical computation. I am using a ECS P45T-A

> LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and the OCZ 16

> GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit. I would like to know in advance will Vista Ultimate

> SP1 be installable on this system?

>

> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

> prevents it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of

> RAM. The work around is to remove all but 2 GBs and then install, but

> clearly in this case that will not be possible. I also would like to

> imagine that this bug would have been eliminated with SP1.

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Pete

>

[Guest Hobbes]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:31:28 -0500, N Brown wrote:

> Yea nut how long would it take me to get an Audio \Video masterpiece

> setup, playing and editing on Linux? Oh

> and run Crysis MOHA, Qauke 4, Turok 2008, Etc.

>

 

Ubuntu has a Yahtzee like game called Tali.

 

Good thing I have an SLI set-up

 

 

 

--

Hobbes, Tiger Extraordinaire

[Guest Mick Murphy]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

Hi Bill. I was in a hurry and misread the Header.

Not too many people post here about 16G of RAM!

--

Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

 

 

"Bill Yanaire" wrote:

> I don't think there was an issue with hard drive space at all.

>

> He was talking about RAM.

>

>

> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:A98E49DD-86B3-4D22-B1D1-577BA2E6734D@microsoft.com...

> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919183

> >

> > It is recommended minimum 20G HD, with 15 free for install.

> > --

> > Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

> >

> >

> > "Peter de B. Harrington" wrote:

> >

> >> Hi:

> >>

> >> I am building a system for numerical computation. I am using a ECS

> >> P45T-A

> >> LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and the OCZ

> >> 16

> >> GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit. I would like to know in advance will Vista

> >> Ultimate

> >> SP1 be installable on this system?

> >>

> >> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

> >> prevents

> >> it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of RAM. The

> >> work around is to remove all but 2 GBs and then install, but clearly in

> >> this

> >> case that will not be possible. I also would like to imagine that this

> >> bug

> >> would have been eliminated with SP1.

> >>

> >> Thanks in advance,

> >>

> >> Pete

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest Tom Lake]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

> I am building a system for numerical computation. I am using a ECS P45T-A

> LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard with 4 memory slots and the OCZ 16

> GB DDR2 800 Quad Kit. I would like to know in advance will Vista Ultimate

> SP1 be installable on this system?

>

> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

> prevents it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of

> RAM.

 

They're wrong. I've installed Vista Ultimate 64 on many 8 GB systems with

no problem.

 

Tom Lake

[Guest Paul Montgomery]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:53:45 -0400, "Tom Lake"

<toml_12953@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

>> prevents it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of

>> RAM.

>

>They're wrong. I've installed Vista Ultimate 64 on many 8 GB systems with

>no problem.

 

Still, there are others who have had problems.

[Guest Curious]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

The problems however all appear to be MOBO or memory related and not Vista

related.

1. The BIOS may not be up to date,

2. Some MOBOs will support no more than 8GB.

3. Memory from different manufacturers have different rated speeds and

require different amount of current to run properly.

a. Some dims draw too much current and fail unless the MOBO memory

voltage is increased if 4 dims are installed.

b. Some MOBOS can not support all installed dims running at rated

speed and the speed has to be reduced

For this reason it often recommended when installing Vista 64 bit that only

2GB be installed until the OS is running smoothly before the amount of

memory in the system is increased.

 

"Paul Montgomery" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:53:45 -0400, "Tom Lake"

> <toml_12953@hotmail.com> wrote:

>

>>> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

>>> prevents it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of

>>> RAM.

>>

>>They're wrong. I've installed Vista Ultimate 64 on many 8 GB systems with

>>no problem.

>

> Still, there are others who have had problems.

[Guest Pistol Pete]

Re: Thanks for your replies, they really helpful

 

Re: Thanks for your replies, they really helpful

 

Thanks all for you replies, they were helpful so I will proceed as planned.

 

For what its worth, I did consider running Ubantu Linux, but ultimately we

would need to connect remotely to this box (no display, keyboard, or mouse).

All our clients are XP machines at the moment. The problem with Linux is

the connectivity issues between Windows and Linux. I am unaware of any free

X-term emulators and concerned that they will not be so robust. I have used

PC-Xware in the past and found many bugs and problems.

 

If you have Linux advice, you may email me directly.

 

Best wishes,

 

Pete

 

 

"Curious >" <<spammenot@nomail.com> wrote in message

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> The problems however all appear to be MOBO or memory related and not Vista

> related.

> 1. The BIOS may not be up to date,

> 2. Some MOBOs will support no more than 8GB.

> 3. Memory from different manufacturers have different rated speeds and

> require different amount of current to run properly.

> a. Some dims draw too much current and fail unless the MOBO memory

> voltage is increased if 4 dims are installed.

> b. Some MOBOS can not support all installed dims running at rated

> speed and the speed has to be reduced

> For this reason it often recommended when installing Vista 64 bit that

> only 2GB be installed until the OS is running smoothly before the amount

> of memory in the system is increased.

>

> "Paul Montgomery" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:pp4ea4l7hgj3obpedq1erhnaj25nl8tt3m@4ax.com...

>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:53:45 -0400, "Tom Lake"

>> <toml_12953@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>>> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

>>>> prevents it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs

>>>> of

>>>> RAM.

>>>

>>>They're wrong. I've installed Vista Ultimate 64 on many 8 GB systems

>>>with

>>>no problem.

>>

>> Still, there are others who have had problems.

>

[Guest Tom Lake]

Re: Will Vista Ultimate 64 Install Cleanly on a 16 GB Box?

 

 

 

"Paul Montgomery" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:53:45 -0400, "Tom Lake"

> <toml_12953@hotmail.com> wrote:

>

>>> The reason I asked is that I read reports that Vista has a bug that

>>> prevents it from installing on systems populated with more than 2 GBs of

>>> RAM.

>>

>>They're wrong. I've installed Vista Ultimate 64 on many 8 GB systems with

>>no problem.

>

> Still, there are others who have had problems.

 

Yes there are but the people who say Vista CAN'T be installed on systems

with more than 2 GB are clearly wrong if it can be installed on even one system

with more than 2 GB. When an absolute statement is made, it only takes one

counter-example to prove the statement false.

 

Tom Lake