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Posted

Hey gang,

 

I used to run, Cccleaner, in XP, and kind of liked how it cleaned out temp

files, etc.

 

I notice the latest release, states that Vista 64 bit is supported, but does

mention there are some " non critical" issues remaining.

 

I run Vista Ultimate 64 bit, just curious if anyone is running the program

in Vista 64, and how you like it?

 

Thanks for any feedback here,

 

 

 

 

--

Don

Guest Jeff Gaines
Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

On 30/08/2008 in message

<945E2124-0E7C-4D61-ACE3-5835A464146C@microsoft.com> Don wrote:

>I notice the latest release, states that Vista 64 bit is supported, but

>does mention there are some " non critical" issues remaining.

>

>I run Vista Ultimate 64 bit, just curious if anyone is running the program

>in Vista 64, and how you like it?

 

I had no problems with cCleaner in Vista 32 or Vista 64. The one to watch

is Eusing reg cleaner from:

http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm

 

which totally trashed my XP Pro x64 installation to the point I had to

re-install.

 

--

Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

By the time you can make ends meet they move the ends

Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

 

 

"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

news:xn0fujquk148h5000@msnews.microsoft.com...

> On 30/08/2008 in message

> <945E2124-0E7C-4D61-ACE3-5835A464146C@microsoft.com> Don wrote:

>

>>I notice the latest release, states that Vista 64 bit is supported, but

>>does mention there are some " non critical" issues remaining.

>>

>>I run Vista Ultimate 64 bit, just curious if anyone is running the program

>>in Vista 64, and how you like it?

>

> I had no problems with cCleaner in Vista 32 or Vista 64. The one to watch

> is Eusing reg cleaner from:

> http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm

>

> which totally trashed my XP Pro x64 installation to the point I had to

> re-install.

>

> --

 

 

Thanks for the info Jeff!

 

 

--

Don

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP
Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

Registry cleaners are anathema to the regulars here. We don't like them, and

think they are a dangerous piece of software claiming to solve a problem

that doesn't exist and doesn't need solving.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

news:xn0fujquk148h5000@msnews.microsoft.com...

> On 30/08/2008 in message

> <945E2124-0E7C-4D61-ACE3-5835A464146C@microsoft.com> Don wrote:

>

>>I notice the latest release, states that Vista 64 bit is supported, but

>>does mention there are some " non critical" issues remaining.

>>

>>I run Vista Ultimate 64 bit, just curious if anyone is running the program

>>in Vista 64, and how you like it?

>

> I had no problems with cCleaner in Vista 32 or Vista 64. The one to watch

> is Eusing reg cleaner from:

> http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm

>

> which totally trashed my XP Pro x64 installation to the point I had to

> re-install.

>

> --

> Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

> By the time you can make ends meet they move the ends

Guest Jeff Gaines
Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

On 31/08/2008 in message <O9yUqL3CJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> Charlie

Russel - MVP wrote:

>Registry cleaners are anathema to the regulars here. We don't like them,

>and think they are a dangerous piece of software claiming to solve a

>problem that doesn't exist and doesn't need solving.

 

That's probably a matter of opinion, I have always used cCleaner with no

issues. If installer/uninstallers did their job properly then perhaps we

wouldn't need registry cleaners, unfortunately MSFT apps are among the

worst offenders.

 

Of course, if MSFT would include a registry cleaner/defragger with the OS

instead of silly utilities like Movie Maker and Media Player and non

standards compliant apps like OE it would be a different matter.

 

--

Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP
Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

Yup, a matter of opinion. Informed opinion, though. And given what we've

seen in the 64-bit world, definitely NOT something I would recommend.

 

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

news:xn0ful4ro1frr0d002@msnews.microsoft.com...

> On 31/08/2008 in message <O9yUqL3CJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> Charlie

> Russel - MVP wrote:

>

>>Registry cleaners are anathema to the regulars here. We don't like them,

>>and think they are a dangerous piece of software claiming to solve a

>>problem that doesn't exist and doesn't need solving.

>

> That's probably a matter of opinion, I have always used cCleaner with no

> issues. If installer/uninstallers did their job properly then perhaps we

> wouldn't need registry cleaners, unfortunately MSFT apps are among the

> worst offenders.

>

> Of course, if MSFT would include a registry cleaner/defragger with the OS

> instead of silly utilities like Movie Maker and Media Player and non

> standards compliant apps like OE it would be a different matter.

>

> --

> Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

> It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to

> others.

Guest Tony Sperling
Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

I'm with Charlie on this. Not that installers/un-installers aren't leaving

things behind that they shouldn't, but you are much better off learning the

basics of the Registry to clean it out, manually, yourself, (if you're in

trouble) than having, possibly dubious software, rumaging around in there.

 

As for 'Defragging' the Reg. - I simply do not see the need for this,

considering the vastness of the volume of the Reg. - what you might recover

is less than a 'drop-in-the-ocean'?

 

If you think you are really 'in-deep-shit', you're better off using Recovery

or Repair Install or in the worst-case-scenario: a clean re-installation,

than having 3:rd party software inside your Reg..

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

news:xn0ful4ro1frr0d002@msnews.microsoft.com...

> On 31/08/2008 in message <O9yUqL3CJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> Charlie

> Russel - MVP wrote:

>

>>Registry cleaners are anathema to the regulars here. We don't like them,

>>and think they are a dangerous piece of software claiming to solve a

>>problem that doesn't exist and doesn't need solving.

>

> That's probably a matter of opinion, I have always used cCleaner with no

> issues. If installer/uninstallers did their job properly then perhaps we

> wouldn't need registry cleaners, unfortunately MSFT apps are among the

> worst offenders.

>

> Of course, if MSFT would include a registry cleaner/defragger with the OS

> instead of silly utilities like Movie Maker and Media Player and non

> standards compliant apps like OE it would be a different matter.

>

> --

> Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

> It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to

> others.

Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

Charlie,

I'm backing you up (even during my vacations!).

:)

Hush, hush, everyone should stay away from registry cleaners.

Carlos

 

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> Registry cleaners are anathema to the regulars here. We don't like them, and

> think they are a dangerous piece of software claiming to solve a problem

> that doesn't exist and doesn't need solving.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

> news:xn0fujquk148h5000@msnews.microsoft.com...

> > On 30/08/2008 in message

> > <945E2124-0E7C-4D61-ACE3-5835A464146C@microsoft.com> Don wrote:

> >

> >>I notice the latest release, states that Vista 64 bit is supported, but

> >>does mention there are some " non critical" issues remaining.

> >>

> >>I run Vista Ultimate 64 bit, just curious if anyone is running the program

> >>in Vista 64, and how you like it?

> >

> > I had no problems with cCleaner in Vista 32 or Vista 64. The one to watch

> > is Eusing reg cleaner from:

> > http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm

> >

> > which totally trashed my XP Pro x64 installation to the point I had to

> > re-install.

> >

> > --

> > Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

> > By the time you can make ends meet they move the ends

>

>

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP
Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

Away with you, Carlos. You're supposed to be off line and on vacation!

 

(hope you're having a good and relaxing one!)

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AE39DC54-B609-46F1-8319-4F04A441DDFF@microsoft.com...

> Charlie,

> I'm backing you up (even during my vacations!).

> :)

> Hush, hush, everyone should stay away from registry cleaners.

> Carlos

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>

>> Registry cleaners are anathema to the regulars here. We don't like them,

>> and

>> think they are a dangerous piece of software claiming to solve a problem

>> that doesn't exist and doesn't need solving.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>> news:xn0fujquk148h5000@msnews.microsoft.com...

>> > On 30/08/2008 in message

>> > <945E2124-0E7C-4D61-ACE3-5835A464146C@microsoft.com> Don wrote:

>> >

>> >>I notice the latest release, states that Vista 64 bit is supported, but

>> >>does mention there are some " non critical" issues remaining.

>> >>

>> >>I run Vista Ultimate 64 bit, just curious if anyone is running the

>> >>program

>> >>in Vista 64, and how you like it?

>> >

>> > I had no problems with cCleaner in Vista 32 or Vista 64. The one to

>> > watch

>> > is Eusing reg cleaner from:

>> > http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm

>> >

>> > which totally trashed my XP Pro x64 installation to the point I had to

>> > re-install.

>> >

>> > --

>> > Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

>> > By the time you can make ends meet they move the ends

>>

>>

Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

Just to clarify,

 

My main interest, in Cccleaner, is in the clearing out temp files, not

necessarily the reg cleaner part of the program.

I would probably stay away from that.

 

 

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

 

 

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:OAVDFb7CJHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Yup, a matter of opinion. Informed opinion, though. And given what we've

> seen in the 64-bit world, definitely NOT something I would recommend.

>

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

> news:xn0ful4ro1frr0d002@msnews.microsoft.com...

>> On 31/08/2008 in message <O9yUqL3CJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> Charlie

>> Russel - MVP wrote:

>>

>>>Registry cleaners are anathema to the regulars here. We don't like them,

>>>and think they are a dangerous piece of software claiming to solve a

>>>problem that doesn't exist and doesn't need solving.

>>

>> That's probably a matter of opinion, I have always used cCleaner with no

>> issues. If installer/uninstallers did their job properly then perhaps we

>> wouldn't need registry cleaners, unfortunately MSFT apps are among the

>> worst offenders.

>>

>> Of course, if MSFT would include a registry cleaner/defragger with the OS

>> instead of silly utilities like Movie Maker and Media Player and non

>> standards compliant apps like OE it would be a different matter.

>>

>> --

>> Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

>> It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to

>> others.

>

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP
Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

Why not either manually clean them, or use the MS built in disk cleanup app?

(Right click a drive, and select Properties, then disk cleanup.)

 

Combining that with setting IE to automatically dump it's temp files when

you exit should keep things reasonably cleaned up.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

"Don" <burnettedclothes@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:1CA7B77F-DA8C-4010-92F9-25459F5AD43A@microsoft.com...

> Just to clarify,

>

> My main interest, in Cccleaner, is in the clearing out temp files, not

> necessarily the reg cleaner part of the program.

> I would probably stay away from that.

>

>

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

>

>

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:OAVDFb7CJHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Yup, a matter of opinion. Informed opinion, though. And given what we've

>> seen in the 64-bit world, definitely NOT something I would recommend.

>>

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>> news:xn0ful4ro1frr0d002@msnews.microsoft.com...

>>> On 31/08/2008 in message <O9yUqL3CJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> Charlie

>>> Russel - MVP wrote:

>>>

>>>>Registry cleaners are anathema to the regulars here. We don't like them,

>>>>and think they are a dangerous piece of software claiming to solve a

>>>>problem that doesn't exist and doesn't need solving.

>>>

>>> That's probably a matter of opinion, I have always used cCleaner with no

>>> issues. If installer/uninstallers did their job properly then perhaps we

>>> wouldn't need registry cleaners, unfortunately MSFT apps are among the

>>> worst offenders.

>>>

>>> Of course, if MSFT would include a registry cleaner/defragger with the

>>> OS instead of silly utilities like Movie Maker and Media Player and non

>>> standards compliant apps like OE it would be a different matter.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

>>> It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to

>>> others.

>>

>

>

>

>

Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

I normally do run disc cleanup on a regular basis, and perhaps that is

enough, just seems like in XP at least, Ccleaner seemed to get a lot more

stuff. I supposed, that could be good or bad.

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

 

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:#k5ta5DDJHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Why not either manually clean them, or use the MS built in disk cleanup

> app? (Right click a drive, and select Properties, then disk cleanup.)

>

> Combining that with setting IE to automatically dump it's temp files when

> you exit should keep things reasonably cleaned up.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Don" <burnettedclothes@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:1CA7B77F-DA8C-4010-92F9-25459F5AD43A@microsoft.com...

>> Just to clarify,

>>

>> My main interest, in Cccleaner, is in the clearing out temp files, not

>> necessarily the reg cleaner part of the program.

>> I would probably stay away from that.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

>> news:OAVDFb7CJHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Yup, a matter of opinion. Informed opinion, though. And given what we've

>>> seen in the 64-bit world, definitely NOT something I would recommend.

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Charlie.

>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>

>>> "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>> news:xn0ful4ro1frr0d002@msnews.microsoft.com...

>>>> On 31/08/2008 in message <O9yUqL3CJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>

>>>> Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>Registry cleaners are anathema to the regulars here. We don't like

>>>>>them, and think they are a dangerous piece of software claiming to

>>>>>solve a problem that doesn't exist and doesn't need solving.

>>>>

>>>> That's probably a matter of opinion, I have always used cCleaner with

>>>> no issues. If installer/uninstallers did their job properly then

>>>> perhaps we wouldn't need registry cleaners, unfortunately MSFT apps are

>>>> among the worst offenders.

>>>>

>>>> Of course, if MSFT would include a registry cleaner/defragger with the

>>>> OS instead of silly utilities like Movie Maker and Media Player and non

>>>> standards compliant apps like OE it would be a different matter.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

>>>> It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to

>>>> others.

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP
Posted

Re: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

Honestly, I rarely bother with disk cleanup. I create my partitions large

enough to not end up in trouble early, I put my data and user files on

separate partitions, and only very rarely bother with cleaning off the boot

partition. Of course, I'm the sort of user who often has a beta OS or two

installed, so I tend to be rebuilding systems fairly often. And I almost

always do a clean install of any OS, whether beta or released.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

"Don" <burnettedclothes@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:7E535C2C-42FD-4787-9051-B8956AB71A8E@microsoft.com...

>I normally do run disc cleanup on a regular basis, and perhaps that is

>enough, just seems like in XP at least, Ccleaner seemed to get a lot more

>stuff. I supposed, that could be good or bad.

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

>

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:#k5ta5DDJHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Why not either manually clean them, or use the MS built in disk cleanup

>> app? (Right click a drive, and select Properties, then disk cleanup.)

>>

>> Combining that with setting IE to automatically dump it's temp files when

>> you exit should keep things reasonably cleaned up.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "Don" <burnettedclothes@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:1CA7B77F-DA8C-4010-92F9-25459F5AD43A@microsoft.com...

>>> Just to clarify,

>>>

>>> My main interest, in Cccleaner, is in the clearing out temp files, not

>>> necessarily the reg cleaner part of the program.

>>> I would probably stay away from that.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>> message news:OAVDFb7CJHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> Yup, a matter of opinion. Informed opinion, though. And given what

>>>> we've seen in the 64-bit world, definitely NOT something I would

>>>> recommend.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Charlie.

>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>

>>>> "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

>>>> news:xn0ful4ro1frr0d002@msnews.microsoft.com...

>>>>> On 31/08/2008 in message <O9yUqL3CJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>

>>>>> Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>Registry cleaners are anathema to the regulars here. We don't like

>>>>>>them, and think they are a dangerous piece of software claiming to

>>>>>>solve a problem that doesn't exist and doesn't need solving.

>>>>>

>>>>> That's probably a matter of opinion, I have always used cCleaner with

>>>>> no issues. If installer/uninstallers did their job properly then

>>>>> perhaps we wouldn't need registry cleaners, unfortunately MSFT apps

>>>>> are among the worst offenders.

>>>>>

>>>>> Of course, if MSFT would include a registry cleaner/defragger with the

>>>>> OS instead of silly utilities like Movie Maker and Media Player and

>>>>> non standards compliant apps like OE it would be a different matter.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

>>>>> It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to

>>>>> others.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

Posted

RE: Ccleaner in Vista 64?

 

I have XP Pro x64 and made the mistake of using CCleaner and, like someone

else here, it trashed my Windows installation and had to format. I now use

Advanced Windows Care, free version. At first I created registry back-ups

and restore points in case it caused problems but it never did. The program

also has an option to undo changes that the program makes if a problem

arises, which never happened to me. But, as I said, I have XP Pro x64 and

I'm not sure if it will work with Vista so you might want to check into that

before you use it. It's a great program. It also scans for adware and junk

files left over from uninstalling programs, it checks system optimization,

start-up programs and a few other things.

 

--

Denise

 

 

 

 

"Don" wrote:

> Hey gang,

>

> I used to run, Cccleaner, in XP, and kind of liked how it cleaned out temp

> files, etc.

>

> I notice the latest release, states that Vista 64 bit is supported, but does

> mention there are some " non critical" issues remaining.

>

> I run Vista Ultimate 64 bit, just curious if anyone is running the program

> in Vista 64, and how you like it?

>

> Thanks for any feedback here,

>

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

>

>

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