Guest letterman@invalid.com Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to see how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and Win98 installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer using the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different username than the laptop, but used the same Product Code, since I intend to delete Win2k on that laptop (too slow). On the desktop, Win2K refused to accept the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention that the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that product code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing and it was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it accepted the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required specific names? What the heck is with this? Thanks
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: Product Key question <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message news:nigtc450jjrsjnsf6f63s77qis5t96mocc@4ax.com... >I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to see > how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and Win98 > installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer using > the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different username than the > laptop, but used the same Product Code, since I intend to delete Win2k > on that laptop (too slow). On the desktop, Win2K refused to accept > the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention that > the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that product > code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing and it > was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. > > I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it accepted > the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required specific > names? What the heck is with this? > > Thanks > AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft and no on-line validation is required. I don't understand this user business. When you do a clean installation of Windows then you are prompted for a product key a long time before you are prompted for a user name, so how can the user name affect the product key entry?
Guest Danny Sanders Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: Product Key question The username really has nothing to do with the product key. The only thing I can think of is that you are confusing the "user name" with the computer name, but even so the computer name has no bearing on the product key. Not sure what IS happening in your case. hth DDS "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message news:ug8o4N3FJHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message > news:nigtc450jjrsjnsf6f63s77qis5t96mocc@4ax.com... >>I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to see >> how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and Win98 >> installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer using >> the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different username than the >> laptop, but used the same Product Code, since I intend to delete Win2k >> on that laptop (too slow). On the desktop, Win2K refused to accept >> the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention that >> the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that product >> code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing and it >> was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. >> >> I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it accepted >> the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required specific >> names? What the heck is with this? >> >> Thanks >> > > AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft and no > on-line validation is required. > > I don't understand this user business. When you do a clean installation of > Windows then you are prompted for a product key a long time before you are > prompted for a user name, so how can the user name affect the product key > entry? >
Guest letterman@invalid.com Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Re: Product Key question On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:09:28 -0600, "Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote: >The username really has nothing to do with the product key. The only thing I >can think of is that you are confusing the "user name" with the computer >name, but even so the computer name has no bearing on the product key. Yes, Ithink it's computer name, and (if desired), password. This screen is immediately before the product key on a fresh install. >Not sure what IS happening in your case. > Neither am I...... I thought that maybe my 3 letter computer name was too short, but I tried a longer one. Yet, using the same name from the laptop, and it installed.... Weird !!!! >hth >DDS > >"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message >news:ug8o4N3FJHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >> <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:nigtc450jjrsjnsf6f63s77qis5t96mocc@4ax.com... >>>I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to see >>> how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and Win98 >>> installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer using >>> the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different username than the >>> laptop, but used the same Product Code, since I intend to delete Win2k >>> on that laptop (too slow). On the desktop, Win2K refused to accept >>> the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention that >>> the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that product >>> code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing and it >>> was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. >>> >>> I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it accepted >>> the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required specific >>> names? What the heck is with this? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >> >> AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft and no >> on-line validation is required. >> >> I don't understand this user business. When you do a clean installation of >> Windows then you are prompted for a product key a long time before you are >> prompted for a user name, so how can the user name affect the product key >> entry? >> >
Guest food-eater@sumplace.com Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Re: Product Key question On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:41:44 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: >AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft and no >on-line validation is required. Lets get this straight. The Windows2000 (as well as earlier versions), product keys are NOT registered by Microsoft, but Windows XP and Vista product keys ARE registered by Microsoft. Am I correct? I dont use XP or Vista, but I heard they needed to be on-line validated. This brings up a big question. What if someone wants to install XP or Vista on a computer that WILL NEVER BE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET? Lets say that Joe Bloe wants a computer just for keeping his financial records and storing his camera photos, and does not want to risk this information online. Is he forced to connect to the internet (at least once) in order to use the operating system?
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Re: Product Key question <food-eater@sumplace.com> wrote in message news:nehvc4likr68thc2llr6sf12kenugdrufh@4ax.com... > On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:41:44 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" > <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >>AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft and no >>on-line validation is required. > > Lets get this straight. The Windows2000 (as well as earlier > versions), product keys are NOT registered by Microsoft, but Windows > XP and Vista product keys ARE registered by Microsoft. Am I correct? > I dont use XP or Vista, but I heard they needed to be on-line > validated. This brings up a big question. What if someone wants to > install XP or Vista on a computer that WILL NEVER BE CONNECTED TO THE > INTERNET? > > Lets say that Joe Bloe wants a computer just for keeping his financial > records and storing his camera photos, and does not want to risk this > information online. Is he forced to connect to the internet (at least > once) in order to use the operating system? Joe Bloe will be told that his installation will work for 30 days. Within this period he has to register it with Microsoft, either via the Internet or by phone. If he does not then it will become inoperative when the time is up.
Guest Roger Fink Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Re: Product Key question Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message > news:nigtc450jjrsjnsf6f63s77qis5t96mocc@4ax.com... >> I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to see >> how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and Win98 >> installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer using >> the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different username than >> the laptop, but used the same Product Code, since I intend to delete >> Win2k on that laptop (too slow). On the desktop, Win2K refused to >> accept >> the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention that >> the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that product >> code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing and it >> was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. >> >> I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it accepted >> the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required specific >> names? What the heck is with this? >> >> Thanks >> > > AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft and > no on-line validation is required. [snip] Although WGA came along after Win 2000. I think at some point Microsoft decided to retroactively apply it: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/892130#appliesto http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905226
Guest Roger Fink Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Re: Product Key question Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message > news:nigtc450jjrsjnsf6f63s77qis5t96mocc@4ax.com... >> I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to see >> how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and Win98 >> installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer using >> the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different username than >> the laptop, but used the same Product Code, since I intend to delete >> Win2k on that laptop (too slow). On the desktop, Win2K refused to >> accept >> the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention that >> the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that product >> code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing and it >> was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. >> >> I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it accepted >> the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required specific >> names? What the heck is with this? >> >> Thanks >> > > AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft and > no on-line validation is required. OTOH there is this from wikipedia: "...Specifically, WGA covers Windows XP and Windows Vista. It does not cover Windows 2000, Windows Server 2003 or the Windows 9x family. However, certain downloads and non-critical updates from the Download Center for Windows 2000 require validation..." Maybe someone can parse this. I can't.
Guest John John (MVP) Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Re: Product Key question Roger Fink wrote: > Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > >><letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message >>news:nigtc450jjrsjnsf6f63s77qis5t96mocc@4ax.com... >> >>>I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to see >>>how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and Win98 >>>installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer using >>>the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different username than >>>the laptop, but used the same Product Code, since I intend to delete >>>Win2k on that laptop (too slow). On the desktop, Win2K refused to >>>accept >>>the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention that >>>the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that product >>>code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing and it >>>was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. >>> >>>I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it accepted >>>the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required specific >>>names? What the heck is with this? >>> >>>Thanks >>> >> >>AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft and >>no on-line validation is required. > > > [snip] > > Although WGA came along after Win 2000. I think at some point Microsoft > decided to retroactively apply it: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/892130#appliesto > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905226 That's not the same thing as Product Activation. John
Guest Roger Fink Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Re: Product Key question John John (MVP) wrote: > Roger Fink wrote: > >> Pegasus (MVP) wrote: >> >>> <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message >>> news:nigtc450jjrsjnsf6f63s77qis5t96mocc@4ax.com... >>> >>>> I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to see >>>> how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and Win98 >>>> installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer >>>> using the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different >>>> username than the laptop, but used the same Product Code, since I >>>> intend to delete Win2k on that laptop (too slow). On the desktop, >>>> Win2K refused to accept >>>> the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention that >>>> the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that product >>>> code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing and it >>>> was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. >>>> >>>> I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it accepted >>>> the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required specific >>>> names? What the heck is with this? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>> >>> AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft and >>> no on-line validation is required. >> >> >> [snip] >> >> Although WGA came along after Win 2000. I think at some point >> Microsoft decided to retroactively apply it: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/892130#appliesto >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905226 > > That's not the same thing as Product Activation. > > John True, the OS won't flatline on you, but as I recall from a conversation with the fellow who installed W2K Pro for me several months ago, he couldn't download SP-4 from WU without a valid CoA.
Guest John John (MVP) Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Re: Product Key question Roger Fink wrote: > John John (MVP) wrote: > >>Roger Fink wrote: >> >> >>>Pegasus (MVP) wrote: >>> >>> >>>><letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>news:nigtc450jjrsjnsf6f63s77qis5t96mocc@4ax.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to see >>>>>how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and Win98 >>>>>installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer >>>>>using the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different >>>>>username than the laptop, but used the same Product Code, since I >>>>>intend to delete Win2k on that laptop (too slow). On the desktop, >>>>>Win2K refused to accept >>>>>the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention that >>>>>the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that product >>>>>code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing and it >>>>>was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. >>>>> >>>>>I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it accepted >>>>>the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required specific >>>>>names? What the heck is with this? >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>>> >>>> >>>>AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft and >>>>no on-line validation is required. >>> >>> >>> [snip] >>> >>>Although WGA came along after Win 2000. I think at some point >>>Microsoft decided to retroactively apply it: >>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/892130#appliesto >>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905226 >> >>That's not the same thing as Product Activation. >> >>John > > > True, the OS won't flatline on you, but as I recall from a conversation with > the fellow who installed W2K Pro for me several months ago, he couldn't > download SP-4 from WU without a valid CoA. That's not true. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1001aaf1-749f-49f4-8010-297bd6ca33a0&DisplayLang=en John
Guest Roger Fink Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Re: Product Key question John John (MVP) wrote: > Roger Fink wrote: > >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> Roger Fink wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Pegasus (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:nigtc450jjrsjnsf6f63s77qis5t96mocc@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to >>>>>> see >>>>>> how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and Win98 >>>>>> installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer >>>>>> using the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different >>>>>> username than the laptop, but used the same Product Code, since I >>>>>> intend to delete Win2k on that laptop (too slow). On the >>>>>> desktop, >>>>>> Win2K refused to accept >>>>>> the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention >>>>>> that >>>>>> the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that >>>>>> product >>>>>> code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing and >>>>>> it >>>>>> was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. >>>>>> >>>>>> I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it >>>>>> accepted >>>>>> the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required >>>>>> specific >>>>>> names? What the heck is with this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft >>>>> and >>>>> no on-line validation is required. >>>> >>>> >>>> [snip] >>>> >>>> Although WGA came along after Win 2000. I think at some point >>>> Microsoft decided to retroactively apply it: >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/892130#appliesto >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905226 >>> >>> That's not the same thing as Product Activation. >>> >>> John >> >> >> True, the OS won't flatline on you, but as I recall from a >> conversation with >> the fellow who installed W2K Pro for me several months ago, he >> couldn't >> download SP-4 from WU without a valid CoA. > > That's not true. > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1001aaf1-749f-49f4-8010-297bd6ca33a0&DisplayLang=en > > John OK. Not sure what the problem was then.
Guest John John (MVP) Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Re: Product Key question Roger Fink wrote: > John John (MVP) wrote: > >>Roger Fink wrote: >> >> >>>John John (MVP) wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Roger Fink wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Pegasus (MVP) wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>><letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:nigtc450jjrsjnsf6f63s77qis5t96mocc@4ax.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to >>>>>>>see >>>>>>>how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and Win98 >>>>>>>installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer >>>>>>>using the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different >>>>>>>username than the laptop, but used the same Product Code, since I >>>>>>>intend to delete Win2k on that laptop (too slow). On the >>>>>>>desktop, >>>>>>>Win2K refused to accept >>>>>>>the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention >>>>>>>that >>>>>>>the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that >>>>>>>product >>>>>>>code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing and >>>>>>>it >>>>>>>was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it >>>>>>>accepted >>>>>>>the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required >>>>>>>specific >>>>>>>names? What the heck is with this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft >>>>>>and >>>>>>no on-line validation is required. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [snip] >>>>> >>>>>Although WGA came along after Win 2000. I think at some point >>>>>Microsoft decided to retroactively apply it: >>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/892130#appliesto >>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905226 >>>> >>>>That's not the same thing as Product Activation. >>>> >>>>John >>> >>> >>>True, the OS won't flatline on you, but as I recall from a >>>conversation with >>>the fellow who installed W2K Pro for me several months ago, he >>>couldn't >>>download SP-4 from WU without a valid CoA. >> >>That's not true. >> >> > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1001aaf1-749f-49f4-8010-297bd6ca33a0&DisplayLang=en > >>John > > > OK. Not sure what the problem was then. You said he couldn't get it from the Windows Update site, I didn't bother checking there for it, maybe WGA is needed for Windows Updates, I'm not sure. I don't think you need it for security updates but I could be wrong on that. John
Guest Roger Fink Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Re: Product Key question John John (MVP) wrote: > Roger Fink wrote: > >> John John (MVP) wrote: >> >>> Roger Fink wrote: >>> >>> >>>> John John (MVP) wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Roger Fink wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Pegasus (MVP) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:nigtc450jjrsjnsf6f63s77qis5t96mocc@4ax.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I installed Windows 2000 on my laptop, which was just a test to >>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>> how it would run on a slow laptop. (I have both Win2K and >>>>>>>> Win98 >>>>>>>> installed). I just installed Win2K on a spare desktop computer >>>>>>>> using the same install CD. I gave the desktop a different >>>>>>>> username than the laptop, but used the same Product Code, >>>>>>>> since I >>>>>>>> intend to delete Win2k on that laptop (too slow). On the >>>>>>>> desktop, >>>>>>>> Win2K refused to accept >>>>>>>> the (SAME) product key I used on the laptop. I should mention >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> the laptop has NEVER been connected to the internet so that >>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>> code is not registered to MS. I carefully checked my typing >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> was correct. I tried to re-enter it, but it would not work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I then used the same username I used on the laptop, and it >>>>>>>> accepted >>>>>>>> the product key. I never knew that Product Keys required >>>>>>>> specific >>>>>>>> names? What the heck is with this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by Microsoft >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> no on-line validation is required. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [snip] >>>>>> >>>>>> Although WGA came along after Win 2000. I think at some point >>>>>> Microsoft decided to retroactively apply it: >>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/892130#appliesto >>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905226 >>>>> >>>>> That's not the same thing as Product Activation. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> True, the OS won't flatline on you, but as I recall from a >>>> conversation with >>>> the fellow who installed W2K Pro for me several months ago, he >>>> couldn't >>>> download SP-4 from WU without a valid CoA. >>> >>> That's not true. >>> >>> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1001aaf1-749f-49f4-8010-297bd6ca33a0&DisplayLang=en >> >>> John >> >> >> OK. Not sure what the problem was then. > > You said he couldn't get it from the Windows Update site, I didn't > bother checking there for it, maybe WGA is needed for Windows Updates, > I'm not sure. I don't think you need it for security updates but I > could be wrong on that. > > John It really would be the height of confusion (even for Microsoft) if SP4 was a WGA-restricted download at WU but an unrestricted download at another part of their site. So I just accept a state of open-ended personal confusion on the issue.
Guest TestTurtle Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 Re: Product Key question "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in news:udfc18AGJHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: > > <food-eater@sumplace.com> wrote in message > news:nehvc4likr68thc2llr6sf12kenugdrufh@4ax.com... >> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:41:44 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" >> <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: >> >>>AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by >>>Microsoft and no on-line validation is required. >> >> Lets get this straight. The Windows2000 (as well as earlier >> versions), product keys are NOT registered by Microsoft, but >> Windows XP and Vista product keys ARE registered by Microsoft. >> Am I correct? I dont use XP or Vista, but I heard they needed >> to be on-line validated. This brings up a big question. What >> if someone wants to install XP or Vista on a computer that WILL >> NEVER BE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET? >> >> Lets say that Joe Bloe wants a computer just for keeping his >> financial records and storing his camera photos, and does not >> want to risk this information online. Is he forced to connect >> to the internet (at least once) in order to use the operating >> system? > > Joe Bloe will be told that his installation will work for 30 > days. Within this period he has to register it with Microsoft, > either via the Internet or by phone. If he does not then it will > become inoperative when the time is up. > > > Activation is why I've stayed away from XP and Vista for my home- builds. However one refurb unit I bought from TigerDirect to use as a basis for a Home Theatre PC came with XP Home[i make sure that all the peripherals I buy, including PVR stuff will run on W2kP first] and it only came with a stupid restore DVD....not the original OEM CD,which I hate....will never do that again...stick to rolling my own. However, luckily the machine is all nVidia...therefore If I ever have to do a rebuild on it because of a crash I can just get the mobo and video drivers straight from them, as I've already checked the driver d/l site. Now After 2010...if I am forced to go XP or Vista, if I activate by phone, will writing everything down in a notebook {i heard that XP creates a sort of construction number that you must tell the CSR in order to get another set of numbers for activation} then saving the information, allow for multiple installs? If not, then I can see me building one bare-bones unit from TD or another kit supplier and just installing Vista for surfing and any HTPC or legacy office app machine will be W2kP but only connected to the ISP for clock setting with the NIST time servers, then disconnected and isolated from the outside world because several anti-virus, anti-spyware vendors have already dropped W98 support. Though I see in their NG that they're still hanging on but I can see the same happening to W2kP in 2010 when M$ stops the security patches but I'll still lurk in these NGs for solutions. thx for any info...
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 Re: Product Key question "TestTurtle" <ht699@po.cwru.edu> wrote in message news:Xns9B2B7693623D6diespammersdie@85.214.90.236... > "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in > news:udfc18AGJHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: > >> >> <food-eater@sumplace.com> wrote in message >> news:nehvc4likr68thc2llr6sf12kenugdrufh@4ax.com... >>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:41:44 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" >>> <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: >>> >>>>AFAIR, Windows 2000 product keys are not registered by >>>>Microsoft and no on-line validation is required. >>> >>> Lets get this straight. The Windows2000 (as well as earlier >>> versions), product keys are NOT registered by Microsoft, but >>> Windows XP and Vista product keys ARE registered by Microsoft. >>> Am I correct? I dont use XP or Vista, but I heard they needed >>> to be on-line validated. This brings up a big question. What >>> if someone wants to install XP or Vista on a computer that WILL >>> NEVER BE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET? >>> >>> Lets say that Joe Bloe wants a computer just for keeping his >>> financial records and storing his camera photos, and does not >>> want to risk this information online. Is he forced to connect >>> to the internet (at least once) in order to use the operating >>> system? >> >> Joe Bloe will be told that his installation will work for 30 >> days. Within this period he has to register it with Microsoft, >> either via the Internet or by phone. If he does not then it will >> become inoperative when the time is up. >> >> >> > Activation is why I've stayed away from XP and Vista for my home- > builds. However one refurb unit I bought from TigerDirect to use as > a basis for a Home Theatre PC came with XP Home[i make sure that > all the peripherals I buy, including PVR stuff will run on W2kP > first] and it only came with a stupid restore DVD....not the > original OEM CD,which I hate....will never do that again...stick to > rolling my own. However, luckily the machine is all > nVidia...therefore If I ever have to do a rebuild on it because of > a crash I can just get the mobo and video drivers straight from > them, as I've already checked the driver d/l site. > > Now After 2010...if I am forced to go XP or Vista, if I activate by > phone, will writing everything down in a notebook {i heard that XP > creates a sort of construction number that you must tell the CSR > in order to get another set of numbers for activation} then saving > the information, allow for multiple installs? > > If not, then I can see me building one bare-bones unit from TD or > another kit supplier and just installing Vista for surfing and any > HTPC or legacy office app machine will be W2kP but only connected > to the ISP for clock setting with the NIST time servers, then > disconnected and isolated from the outside world because several > anti-virus, anti-spyware vendors have already dropped W98 support. > Though I see in their NG that they're still hanging on but I can > see the same happening to W2kP in 2010 when M$ stops the security > patches but I'll still lurk in these NGs for solutions. > > thx for any info... Why should you be forced to drop Win2000 after 2010? Did you have any other specific questions?
Guest TestTurtle Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 Re: Product Key question "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in news:eKjKxIHGJHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl: > > > True, the OS won't flatline on you, but as I recall from a > conversation with the fellow who installed W2K Pro for me > several months ago, he couldn't download SP-4 from WU without a > valid CoA. > > That is why whenever I can, I order the CDs, I even have the XP SP2 and SP3 as some of my local friends have asked for help when they themselves haven't had an ISP and they'll be useful to have in the future, just in case. When I ordered the SP4 cd for myself I accidently clicked twice and wound up paying for and receiving two W2kP SP4 CDs but that's OK... Now if M$ would only sell the OS CDs and DVDs as cheaply that in itself would solve their piratcy problem.....even the poor could afford 'em.
Guest TestTurtle Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Re: Product Key question "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in news:ekyRAfKJJHA.2980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: > > Why should you be forced to drop Win2000 after 2010? > Did you have any other specific questions? > > > Well it was tricky enough to find the patches and SR2 for Office '97 Pro but no such leads to an archive for Win98 on M$ site but I found an URL where they may be found in case I need them and the maintainer offers them on CD just for the price of CDs and postage from the Win'98 NG. __ Why buy new when the old stuff has features not even used yet?
Guest TestTurtle Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Re: Product Key question "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in news:ekyRAfKJJHA.2980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: > > Why should you be forced to drop Win2000 after 2010? > Did you have any other specific questions? > > > > > "TestTurtle" <ht699@po.cwru.edu> wrote in message > news:Xns9B2B7693623D6diespammersdie@85.214.90.236... >> "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in >> news:udfc18AGJHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: >> >>> > snip >> .................................................... if I >> activate by phone, will writing everything down in a notebook >> {i heard that XP creates a sort of construction number that >> you must tell the CSR in order to get another set of numbers >> for activation} then saving the information, allow for multiple >> installs? >> snip >> >> ..................but I can see the same happening to W2kP in >> 2010 when M$ stops the security patches but I'll still lurk in >> these NGs for solutions. _______ Why buy new when what you got still works?
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Re: Product Key question "TestTurtle" <ht699@po.cwru.edu> wrote in message news:Xns9B2CB2B87CCCFdiespammersdie@85.214.90.236... > > Why buy new when what you got still works? Exactly!
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