Guest David D. Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 I have W2K Pro SP4. My system frequently crashes with a "Socket 0 error". It does not crash if running in safe mode with no internet connection. IRQ conflicts might be the culprit (although I could be wrong about that). My system reports IRQ 11 conflicts: 11 RADEON 7500 SERIES 11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller 11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller 11 NEC PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller 11 Win2000 Promise Ultra133 TX2 IDE Controller 11 HPT372 UDMA/ATA133 RAID Controller 11 CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller 11 Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC My other IRQs assignments are: 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System 14 Primary IDE Channel 15 Secondary IDE Channel 8 System CMOS/real time clock 13 Numeric data processor 6 Standard floppy disk controller 4 Communications Port (COM1) 3 Communications Port (COM2) 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard 10 MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device Do you concur that IRQs is the likely culprit? Which IRQ 11 devices should I try to reassign? And to where? How do I force them to a new IRQ? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. - David
Guest Bob I Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Re: "Socket 0 Error" / IRQ conflicts Is it actually saying that there is a conflict? The IRQ numbers are a "virtual numbering system" for legacy reasons. There are normally only 4 REAL hardware IRQ lines in a PCI system A,B,C and D. PCI systems are designed around shared interupts. I would hazard a guess that the may be an issue with your NIC driver, try updating it with the most recent version from the manufacturer. David D. wrote: > I have W2K Pro SP4. > > My system frequently crashes with a "Socket 0 error". It does not crash if > running in safe mode with no internet connection. > > IRQ conflicts might be the culprit (although I could be wrong about that). > > My system reports IRQ 11 conflicts: > > 11 RADEON 7500 SERIES > 11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller > 11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller > 11 NEC PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller > 11 Win2000 Promise Ultra133 TX2 IDE Controller > 11 HPT372 UDMA/ATA133 RAID Controller > 11 CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device > 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller > 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller > 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller > 11 Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC > > My other IRQs assignments are: > > 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System > 14 Primary IDE Channel > 15 Secondary IDE Channel > 8 System CMOS/real time clock > 13 Numeric data processor > 6 Standard floppy disk controller > 4 Communications Port (COM1) > 3 Communications Port (COM2) > 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard > 10 MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device > > Do you concur that IRQs is the likely culprit? > > Which IRQ 11 devices should I try to reassign? And to where? > > How do I force them to a new IRQ? > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > - David > > >
Guest Gary Chanson Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Re: "Socket 0 Error" / IRQ conflicts "David D." <daviddiamond.remove-if-not-spam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:iIWdnd0qJ_0evBDbnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com... > I have W2K Pro SP4. > > My system frequently crashes with a "Socket 0 error". It does not crash if > running in safe mode with no internet connection. > > IRQ conflicts might be the culprit (although I could be wrong about that). > > My system reports IRQ 11 conflicts: > > 11 RADEON 7500 SERIES > 11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller > 11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller > 11 NEC PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller > 11 Win2000 Promise Ultra133 TX2 IDE Controller > 11 HPT372 UDMA/ATA133 RAID Controller > 11 CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device > 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller > 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller > 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller > 11 Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC > > My other IRQs assignments are: > > 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System > 14 Primary IDE Channel > 15 Secondary IDE Channel > 8 System CMOS/real time clock > 13 Numeric data processor > 6 Standard floppy disk controller > 4 Communications Port (COM1) > 3 Communications Port (COM2) > 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard > 10 MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device > > Do you concur that IRQs is the likely culprit? No, IRQ conflicts happen at a much lower level then socket errors. > Which IRQ 11 devices should I try to reassign? And to where? > > How do I force them to a new IRQ? > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I don't have much information to go by, but I'd start by looking for viruses and spyware. -- - Gary Chanson (Windows SDK MVP) - Abolish Public Schools
Guest David D. Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Re: "Socket 0 Error" / IRQ conflicts The actual error message is "Windows Socket Error 0", on a dialog box with an "OK" button. I can run perhaps 20 minutes before getting the Socket Error crash. There was no error message about IRQ conflicts, but there the IRQ 11 hardware is listed under the "IRQ Conflicts" tab of the System Information tool. "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:u1eU35yvHHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Is it actually saying that there is a conflict? The IRQ numbers are a > "virtual numbering system" for legacy reasons. There are normally only 4 > REAL hardware IRQ lines in a PCI system A,B,C and D. PCI systems are > designed around shared interupts. I would hazard a guess that the may be > an issue with your NIC driver, try updating it with the most recent > version from the manufacturer. > > David D. wrote: > >> I have W2K Pro SP4. >> >> My system frequently crashes with a "Socket 0 error". It does not crash >> if >> running in safe mode with no internet connection. >> >> IRQ conflicts might be the culprit (although I could be wrong about >> that). >> >> My system reports IRQ 11 conflicts: >> >> 11 RADEON 7500 SERIES >> 11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller >> 11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller >> 11 NEC PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller >> 11 Win2000 Promise Ultra133 TX2 IDE Controller >> 11 HPT372 UDMA/ATA133 RAID Controller >> 11 CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device >> 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller >> 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller >> 11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller >> 11 Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC >> >> My other IRQs assignments are: >> >> 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System >> 14 Primary IDE Channel >> 15 Secondary IDE Channel >> 8 System CMOS/real time clock >> 13 Numeric data processor >> 6 Standard floppy disk controller >> 4 Communications Port (COM1) >> 3 Communications Port (COM2) >> 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard >> 10 MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device >> >> Do you concur that IRQs is the likely culprit? >> >> Which IRQ 11 devices should I try to reassign? And to where? >> >> How do I force them to a new IRQ? >> >> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. >> >> - David >> >> >> >
Guest David D. Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Re: "Socket 0 Error" / IRQ conflicts "Gary Chanson" <gchanson@No.Spam.mvps.org> wrote in message > > I don't have much information to go by, but I'd start by looking for > viruses and spyware. > > -- > > - Gary Chanson (Windows SDK MVP) > - Abolish Public Schools > I have removed some spyware and viruses. There could be some residual corruption, though. It may not be the NIC driver, because I disabled the NIC, but I still get the "Windows Socket Error 0" error. I will try to find an upgraded NIC driver. What is the best way to completely uninstall the old driver, so that, when the system recognizes the NIC as new hardware, it won't re-use components from the old version of the driver? - David
Guest Gary Chanson Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: "Socket 0 Error" / IRQ conflicts "David D." <daviddiamond.remove-if-not-spam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:9eGdnQGDO_x_6BDbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com... > "Gary Chanson" <gchanson@No.Spam.mvps.org> wrote in message > > > I don't have much information to go by, but I'd start by looking for > > viruses and spyware. > > > > -- > > > > - Gary Chanson (Windows SDK MVP) > > - Abolish Public Schools > > > > I have removed some spyware and viruses. There could be some residual > corruption, though. > > It may not be the NIC driver, because I disabled the NIC, but I still get > the "Windows Socket Error 0" error. > > I will try to find an upgraded NIC driver. What is the best way to > completely uninstall the old driver, so that, when the system recognizes the > NIC as new hardware, it won't re-use components from the old version of the > driver? Off hand, I don't know. If it's a driver that was supplied as part of Windows, it may not be easy to replace short of doing a repair install. If it was supplied with an add-on card or with the motherboard, it depends on how the original driver was installed. If it used a setup.exe program, you probably can simply run it again. If not, you probably have to find the oemxxx.inf file that it installed and delete it and then redetect the device. -- - Gary Chanson (Windows SDK MVP) - Abolish Public Schools
Guest John John Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: "Socket 0 Error" / IRQ conflicts David D. wrote: > "Gary Chanson" <gchanson@No.Spam.mvps.org> wrote in message > > >> I don't have much information to go by, but I'd start by looking for >>viruses and spyware. >> >>-- >> >>- Gary Chanson (Windows SDK MVP) >>- Abolish Public Schools >> > > > I have removed some spyware and viruses. There could be some residual > corruption, though. You might want to use winsockfix and LSPfix and see if things improve. Do a search on the net for those and get the Windows 2000 versions. John
Guest David D. Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: "Socket 0 Error" / IRQ conflicts Gary, John, Bob, Thanks for the advice and suggestions. I will follow up on them. I have been running stably in Safe Mode *with* Networking, and *with* Internet access. In normal mode, on the other hand, even with the NIC disabled, I still get the "Windows Socket Error 0" crash. So it is probably a component other than the NIC driver. This may be a hard one to find. I can't even say what changed, because it started as a rare, infrequent problem, and gradually became more persistent over time. But I will start with the winsockfix and LSPfix. If you have any other thoughts, kindly share them. If I can find the XP CD that I bought a long time ago, or even my original W2K CD, I might just rebuild. But I have been searching the house for days for them, so I do not hold out much hope. Thanks again for your help. - David
Guest Gary Chanson Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: "Socket 0 Error" / IRQ conflicts "David D." <daviddiamond.remove-if-not-spam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:SIydnQPOO9ZaJxDbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Gary, John, Bob, > > Thanks for the advice and suggestions. I will follow up on them. > > I have been running stably in Safe Mode *with* Networking, and *with* > Internet access. In normal mode, on the other hand, even with the NIC > disabled, I still get the "Windows Socket Error 0" crash. So it is probably > a component other than the NIC driver. > > This may be a hard one to find. I can't even say what changed, because > it started as a rare, infrequent problem, and gradually became more > persistent over time. > > But I will start with the winsockfix and LSPfix. > > If you have any other thoughts, kindly share them. If I can find the > XP CD that I bought a long time ago, or even my original W2K CD, I might > just rebuild. But I have been searching the house for days for them, so I > do not hold out much hope. A repair install might fix it, but you need the Windows Setup CD for that. -- - Gary Chanson (Windows SDK MVP) - Abolish Public Schools
Guest Bob I Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: "Socket 0 Error" / IRQ conflicts It's listing shared and conflicts, IF there was a conflict you would receive a "resources error" that the recsources were unavailable. David D. wrote: > The actual error message is "Windows Socket Error 0", on a dialog box with > an "OK" button. I can run perhaps 20 minutes before getting the Socket > Error crash. > > There was no error message about IRQ conflicts, but there the IRQ 11 > hardware is listed under the "IRQ Conflicts" tab of the System Information > tool. > > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:u1eU35yvHHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >>Is it actually saying that there is a conflict? The IRQ numbers are a >>"virtual numbering system" for legacy reasons. There are normally only 4 >>REAL hardware IRQ lines in a PCI system A,B,C and D. PCI systems are >>designed around shared interupts. I would hazard a guess that the may be >>an issue with your NIC driver, try updating it with the most recent >>version from the manufacturer. >> >>David D. wrote: >> >> >>>I have W2K Pro SP4. >>> >>>My system frequently crashes with a "Socket 0 error". It does not crash >>>if >>>running in safe mode with no internet connection. >>> >>>IRQ conflicts might be the culprit (although I could be wrong about >>>that). >>> >>>My system reports IRQ 11 conflicts: >>> >>>11 RADEON 7500 SERIES >>>11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller >>>11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller >>>11 NEC PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller >>>11 Win2000 Promise Ultra133 TX2 IDE Controller >>>11 HPT372 UDMA/ATA133 RAID Controller >>>11 CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device >>>11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller >>>11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller >>>11 VIA USB Universal Host Controller >>>11 Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC >>> >>>My other IRQs assignments are: >>> >>>9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System >>>14 Primary IDE Channel >>>15 Secondary IDE Channel >>>8 System CMOS/real time clock >>>13 Numeric data processor >>>6 Standard floppy disk controller >>>4 Communications Port (COM1) >>>3 Communications Port (COM2) >>>1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard >>>10 MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device >>> >>>Do you concur that IRQs is the likely culprit? >>> >>>Which IRQ 11 devices should I try to reassign? And to where? >>> >>>How do I force them to a new IRQ? >>> >>>Any advice would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> - David >>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Jarek Czekalski Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: "Socket 0 Error" / IRQ conflicts David D. wrote: > I have removed some spyware and viruses. There could be some residual > corruption, though. > No one mentioned to uninstall the tcpip protocol. I would do this first. Of course you reinstall it later. I guess it helped me after something malicious had destroyed my network. Regards Jarek
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